Reading stories from the '50s we should be living in a "dark future" now because we invented robots. Whose obvious first reaction upon being created would be to enslave/destroy man kind. Riiiight...
Yeah sure... buy that. Why not... if you bought all other silly exercising equipment.
True story.
My friend and his wife, decided to get themselves a stepper.
- Why? - Ah.. you know... for exercising. We started putting on some weight, with all late suppers and all (they are both MDs and often work long hours). - Well... OK.. but why throw away money on that thing? You guys live on 7th floor. Why not walk THOSE steps once in a while? - Oh... but we are tired when we come from work. - Soo... when exactly will you be using the stepper? In the morning before you go to work? - Well... no... but I can use it on weekends...
So, as this was going nowhere, I gave up. No point in turning this into an argument.
They bought a used stepper. It also came with those rubber bands that you should pull on so you could exercise arms as well. To my knowledge, that part of it was never used. For about a week or so, they kinda exercised using the stepper.
Couple of weeks ago, I was at their place and I noticed the stepper. Under the bed in the bedroom (it used to stay in front of the TV in the living room), collecting dust.
They still live on the 7th floor. They still use elevator when they go out for milk.
Leopard Claims Half the Japanese OS Market In October DUDE! Half of the computer users in Japan use Macs! Macs RULE!
Leopard Claims Half the October's OS Market In Japan - Umm.. It says here that 50% of OSs sold last month in Japan were Apple OSs. - That does not sound like much considering Leopard FINALLY came out last month? Shouldn't it be more like 3000%? - Nope. Says right here. Half of what was sold "last month". - Well.. It probably rained. Who's gonna go out to buy an OS in the rain? - You are right. Says also that 200 people stood outside the Apple's store in Ginza district in Tokyo. - Yeah man! See!? Macs RULE! People stand out in the rain waiting for it. IN THE FUCKIN' RAIN STORM, IN THE FUCKIN JAPAN! They have tsunamis there, you know? - Says here it was "light rain". - Whatever man! Macs are BIG in Japan!
Oh.. did I say that the title is misleading propaganda drivel? TFA is quite impartial, but the title... Goebbels would have been proud.
Besides, while the admins *could* replace the stolen virtual furniture, they probably won't because they don't know how to deal with proving that someone's stuff got stolen, and avoiding opening another avenue for fraud of reporting fake theft. In that case... there is no case?
Can't prove something got stolen, soooo... like... it didn't? Excellent! Everybody is happy!
No... wait... no they are not.
The fucking degeneric that bought 5600$ of virtual IKEA isn't. Now... I don't care how fucking rare that couch was, how many virtual golden baby-leprechauns had to be killed to make that couch - anyone, and I mean ANYONE that pays 5600$ on virtual furniture should be banned from the gene pool. Or better yet - from the real world.
5600$?
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU SPEND 5600$ ON VIRTUAL FURNITURE!
Its not like it is a +50 sword or +200 armor that exists like... one of each in the entire virtual universe. I mean... I can imagine a event that took months to unfold, and the winner of which got that one unique super-item that no one will ever be able to get again. And like... with that item you are like a super-god or something... Maybe. Maybe I could accept that as semi-non retarder behavior.
But virtual furniture? What does it do?
Give you +5% chance of virtual orgasm when you are having virtual sex with your virtual girlfriend? Or 10% chance that you will find that special virtual channel with virtual shows that you really like, while virtual channel surfing on your virtual TV? It generates virtual change that you can use in the virtual world to buy virtual soda?
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU VALIDATE SPENDING 5600$ ON VIRTUAL ITEMS LIKE THAT!!!
And where does that user get the balls to report something like that? Hello!!!
Its on par with a guy walking into a mall with a giant dildo in his hand, walking up to the counter and wanting a replacement because the part of it fell off and got stuck in his anus. Or walking in with a keyboard complaining that it lacks "ANY" key.
And I see them as peanuts compared to what could have been done.
ISS? Why in orbit? 40-something years ago people walked on the Moon. Space Shuttle? Why not a regular line to the Moon? LFF? Umm... Romans built those. This one is only bigger. Vegas? Umm... A whole city built just for gambling? What is so special? Number of light bulbs? F-22? Building them for 20 years, spend billions of dollars, and they still don't transform?
On the other hand... Still no man on Mars, still no cure for cancer, educating kids like its 1950s, health-care...
Aiming for a large, stationary target you don't need nothing more than a calculator and launch and land coordinates. Again... how are SLBMs imprecise?
And even if they were colossal fuckups (SLBMs) - you just launch redundant missiles with overlapping strike areas.
Now... the other thing. A calculated "bomb, and then negotiate" nuclear war is not an option. Its either A strikes B first and kills it fast before A retaliates (a decapitating + disarming first strike), A and B empty the silos at each other (first strike==last strike), or A or B goes for winner takes all (erase other side and any bystanders, Earth is ours).
And A and B would not be countries. One would be the country that shot first, the other would be everyone else with a nuclear arsenal.
Calculating for 10,30, 60 or any other percent of collateral damage is illusionary. If nukes are used as a weapon of war (and not some kind of a lone-gunmen terrorist attack) the best that can be hoped for (in human population) is as much as can fit into nuclear shelters.
So, any nation that would consider nuclear weapons as anything else other than a MAD deterrent, would first have to dig deep and hard, burry as much as it can as deep as it can in people and supplies, and then go for gold. Nuke them all, and inherit the earth. Also, reduce your own population to a "manageable level".
Nuclear wars don't end in negotiations. Its one side wins, and/or everyone loses.
Space Station: Its called INTERNATIONAL Space Station. Notice the International part. As in more then one nation...
Space Shuttle: Not exactly something to brag about... considering that it was made in the '70s. And that out of 6 of them, one never went to space, and 2 blew up.
Las Vegas: Mafia built Sin City? Sure... a true acomplishment. Why not list crack as well?
LFF: You know the saying "Bread and Circusses"? Half way there.
F-22: Wasn't GP saying something about "not paying for wars"? And FYI Iraq is costing US around $460 billion at the moment.
That is 7.5 F-22 projects designed and built from scratch. Or 898 LFFs. Or 4.6 ISSs.
And that is Iraq alone. Imagine not fighting all those pointles since WWII...
And people keep asking for their flying cars. Ask Rambo where they went.
but not terminate precise targets. On what are you basing this "imprecision"? And what exactly do you consider precise when tossing around nuclear weapons?
How is a submarine docked in front of New York, capable of frying the entire east coast before anyone knows its there, AND retreating into depths of the ocean before the first SLBMs drop... how is that not a first strike weapon?
What IS a first strike weapon in your opinion? A silo filled with ICBMs somewhere in Siberia? That is only "You shoot, we shoot too", MAD leverage. You don't need the IC part of the ICBM when you are so close to the said continent that you can toss a rock at it.
Sure... subs are "Kill them after I am dead"-weapon, but that is not the part everyone fears. Who cares about that 500th nuke. Its those first two that count. And you are not going to get them there in time if they have to go over the North Pole, or with a bomber. Unless Russians had plans to dig a tunnel under USA http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061387/ - there is no faster delivery then by a sub.
As for MHD... well... the book DID use the MHD... only problem is that it does not exist (at least not in the way it does in the book or the movie - particularly not on a submarine) - while pump-jet submarines do. Which is exactly what I have said.
Is a rifle a first strike weapon? Mind you, it will be used to shoot you, not club you on the head.
A silent, quick, undetectable launch platform that can be deployed inside enemies coastal area without him detecting it? SLBMs sure as hell are not for "home protection". Its a "get them before they get you and still have a reserve"-weapon.
And FYI I did read the book. Found it boring as hell, but made through it somehow. And while HfRO is fiction, USA, UK and France all have pump-jet driven submarines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrojet And all of them can carry and fire nukes.
Russians may not have pump-jet subs, but they sure do have subs equipped with SLBMs.
And judging from the way you associate in your post - you are a pooh-pooh head necrophiliac.
There... now that we got the pleasantries out of the way, let me just point out that by dumping communist and nazis into a same basket you are implying that it is only by chance that USA fought AGAINST Hitler in WWII and not ALONG SIDE him against those red bastards.
Say Pearl Harbor never happened. Why not invade Britain and then help Hitler subdue those commie Russians. Japs will take care of Chinese, and the rest can be divided later. Americas and Britain to the USA, Europe and Russia to Germany, and Japs can have the Asia. Keep Africa under mutual control - one has to get their cheap labor from somewhere, right? All those non-white and non-arian people will not last forever.
You'd better get to Pearl Harbor and spill some sake on the Arizona for those brave Japanese pilots that enabled you to be the self-righteous prick that you are today. Imagine commies being wiped out, and nazis being your best pals. Who would you hate then?
Communist apologists are morally equivalent to Nazi apologists as the two ideologies in practice are genocidal, despotic and enslaving. Hmm... American Indians, Vietnam... oh yeah... those civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Well... we could probably dig up more, but I guess Doubya should be enough for count two. And count three... well... them darkies sure know how to pick that cotton, and build them railroads don't they?
And all that by the THE democratic government? Wow! Mind boggling.
Heh.. maybe we should start stealing some of that archaic Chinese diesel-electric technology. I am guessing Chinese or some of the European allies would be glad to sell it. Only problem is... small, cheap subs are not big enough to land with an jet on and declare "Mission Accomplished".
They are kind of... smallish... and... cheapish. Who is going to make money making those for the military?
Remember the Connery's character? Captain Marko Ramius?
Would you call him a hero and his act (though imaginary) a great achievement? Stealing an undetectable (super-silent nuclear sub) first strike weapon and running away with it to the enemy?
Or does the analogy only work if you steal from Russians?
That guy may be singlehandedly responsible for the cold war being exactly that - cold.
Cause... come on... why not drop a couple of them on those communist bastards. It isn't like they are people. I heard they don't even believe in god. And that Stalin fellow... a brutal dictator if I ever saw one. Just look at that mustache. Do you know that in the beginning of the WWII he was palls with Hitler? I say lets nuke 'em. We can't just sit around while Russian people suffer under the iron heel of communism. Let's bring them the gift of freedom.
Only we gotta be quick... before they build some of their own... They might even give some of them to Chinese. And we KNOW that they are just NOT like us. Can you even tell them apart from those Japanese? I sure can't.
If they have Kirk and Chekov or even Sulu in the Academy at the same time I am waking out of the theater. You have the Dream Machine 2000 installed in your theatre already? I thought those things aren't supposed to come out for another 20-30 years.
I'll wait for a decent DVD Screener-rip, without grayscreens etc. to come out on torrents, and for some other poor schmuck to download it and pass the DVD/CDs around.
Let someone else waste their bandwidth and optical media.
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1. Lifelike Gynoids
2. Lifelike Androids
Should budget constrains force us to develop only one of those I for one vote for the first advancement.
Reading stories from the '50s we should be living in a "dark future" now because we invented robots.
Whose obvious first reaction upon being created would be to enslave/destroy man kind. Riiiight...
Is it like turning on the light that is already on?
Wow! That must be cool!
Yeah sure... buy that. Why not... if you bought all other silly exercising equipment.
True story.
My friend and his wife, decided to get themselves a stepper.
- Why?
- Ah.. you know... for exercising. We started putting on some weight, with all late suppers and all (they are both MDs and often work long hours).
- Well... OK.. but why throw away money on that thing? You guys live on 7th floor. Why not walk THOSE steps once in a while?
- Oh... but we are tired when we come from work.
- Soo... when exactly will you be using the stepper? In the morning before you go to work?
- Well... no... but I can use it on weekends...
So, as this was going nowhere, I gave up. No point in turning this into an argument.
They bought a used stepper. It also came with those rubber bands that you should pull on so you could exercise arms as well.
To my knowledge, that part of it was never used.
For about a week or so, they kinda exercised using the stepper.
Couple of weeks ago, I was at their place and I noticed the stepper. Under the bed in the bedroom (it used to stay in front of the TV in the living room), collecting dust.
They still live on the 7th floor. They still use elevator when they go out for milk.
I admit...
I only saw first and third Harry Potter movie, and didn't read the books, but this is the first time I hear of a "Stallman" mentioned.
- That does not sound like much considering Leopard FINALLY came out last month? Shouldn't it be more like 3000%?
- Nope. Says right here. Half of what was sold "last month".
- Well.. It probably rained. Who's gonna go out to buy an OS in the rain?
- You are right. Says also that 200 people stood outside the Apple's store in Ginza district in Tokyo.
- Yeah man! See!? Macs RULE! People stand out in the rain waiting for it. IN THE FUCKIN' RAIN STORM, IN THE FUCKIN JAPAN! They have tsunamis there, you know?
- Says here it was "light rain".
- Whatever man! Macs are BIG in Japan!
Oh.. did I say that the title is misleading propaganda drivel?
TFA is quite impartial, but the title... Goebbels would have been proud.
Can't prove something got stolen, soooo... like... it didn't?
Excellent! Everybody is happy!
No... wait... no they are not.
The fucking degeneric that bought 5600$ of virtual IKEA isn't.
Now... I don't care how fucking rare that couch was, how many virtual golden baby-leprechauns had to be killed to make that couch - anyone, and I mean ANYONE that pays 5600$ on virtual furniture should be banned from the gene pool. Or better yet - from the real world.
5600$?
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU SPEND 5600$ ON VIRTUAL FURNITURE!
Its not like it is a +50 sword or +200 armor that exists like... one of each in the entire virtual universe.
I mean... I can imagine a event that took months to unfold, and the winner of which got that one unique super-item that no one will ever be able to get again.
And like... with that item you are like a super-god or something...
Maybe. Maybe I could accept that as semi-non retarder behavior.
But virtual furniture?
What does it do?
Give you +5% chance of virtual orgasm when you are having virtual sex with your virtual girlfriend?
Or 10% chance that you will find that special virtual channel with virtual shows that you really like, while virtual channel surfing on your virtual TV?
It generates virtual change that you can use in the virtual world to buy virtual soda?
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU VALIDATE SPENDING 5600$ ON VIRTUAL ITEMS LIKE THAT!!!
And where does that user get the balls to report something like that?
Hello!!!
Its on par with a guy walking into a mall with a giant dildo in his hand, walking up to the counter and wanting a replacement because the part of it fell off and got stuck in his anus.
Or walking in with a keyboard complaining that it lacks "ANY" key.
5600$ of virtual furniture... Good god...
Not dismissing.
Just call em like I see them.
And I see them as peanuts compared to what could have been done.
ISS? Why in orbit? 40-something years ago people walked on the Moon.
Space Shuttle? Why not a regular line to the Moon?
LFF? Umm... Romans built those. This one is only bigger.
Vegas? Umm... A whole city built just for gambling? What is so special? Number of light bulbs?
F-22? Building them for 20 years, spend billions of dollars, and they still don't transform?
On the other hand... Still no man on Mars, still no cure for cancer, educating kids like its 1950s, health-care...
Don't tell someone got paid for this study?
No extra toilet paper for these guys...gals...people. I mean... future "detainees".
Ignorant?
I googled all those numbers in like 2 minutes, based on what GP said and what I already know.
You can google them too.
You know how to google, don't you, kid? You just pull up your browser and... type.
You still keep tagging SLBMs as "imprecise".
Aiming for a large, stationary target you don't need nothing more than a calculator and launch and land coordinates.
Again... how are SLBMs imprecise?
And even if they were colossal fuckups (SLBMs) - you just launch redundant missiles with overlapping strike areas.
Now... the other thing. A calculated "bomb, and then negotiate" nuclear war is not an option.
Its either A strikes B first and kills it fast before A retaliates (a decapitating + disarming first strike), A and B empty the silos at each other (first strike==last strike), or A or B goes for winner takes all (erase other side and any bystanders, Earth is ours).
And A and B would not be countries. One would be the country that shot first, the other would be everyone else with a nuclear arsenal.
Calculating for 10,30, 60 or any other percent of collateral damage is illusionary.
If nukes are used as a weapon of war (and not some kind of a lone-gunmen terrorist attack) the best that can be hoped for (in human population) is as much as can fit into nuclear shelters.
So, any nation that would consider nuclear weapons as anything else other than a MAD deterrent, would first have to dig deep and hard, burry as much as it can as deep as it can in people and supplies, and then go for gold.
Nuke them all, and inherit the earth. Also, reduce your own population to a "manageable level".
Nuclear wars don't end in negotiations. Its one side wins, and/or everyone loses.
Space Station: Its called INTERNATIONAL Space Station. Notice the International part. As in more then one nation...
Space Shuttle: Not exactly something to brag about... considering that it was made in the '70s. And that out of 6 of them, one never went to space, and 2 blew up.
Las Vegas: Mafia built Sin City? Sure... a true acomplishment. Why not list crack as well?
LFF: You know the saying "Bread and Circusses"? Half way there.
F-22: Wasn't GP saying something about "not paying for wars"? And FYI Iraq is costing US around $460 billion at the moment.
That is 7.5 F-22 projects designed and built from scratch. Or 898 LFFs. Or 4.6 ISSs.
And that is Iraq alone. Imagine not fighting all those pointles since WWII...
And people keep asking for their flying cars. Ask Rambo where they went.
How is a submarine docked in front of New York, capable of frying the entire east coast before anyone knows its there, AND retreating into depths of the ocean before the first SLBMs drop... how is that not a first strike weapon?
What IS a first strike weapon in your opinion? A silo filled with ICBMs somewhere in Siberia? That is only "You shoot, we shoot too", MAD leverage.
You don't need the IC part of the ICBM when you are so close to the said continent that you can toss a rock at it.
Sure... subs are "Kill them after I am dead"-weapon, but that is not the part everyone fears. Who cares about that 500th nuke. Its those first two that count.
And you are not going to get them there in time if they have to go over the North Pole, or with a bomber.
Unless Russians had plans to dig a tunnel under USA http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061387/ - there is no faster delivery then by a sub.
As for MHD... well... the book DID use the MHD... only problem is that it does not exist (at least not in the way it does in the book or the movie - particularly not on a submarine) - while pump-jet submarines do.
Which is exactly what I have said.
Would you call a hammer a first strike weapon?
Is a rifle a first strike weapon? Mind you, it will be used to shoot you, not club you on the head.
A silent, quick, undetectable launch platform that can be deployed inside enemies coastal area without him detecting it?
SLBMs sure as hell are not for "home protection". Its a "get them before they get you and still have a reserve"-weapon.
And FYI I did read the book. Found it boring as hell, but made through it somehow.
And while HfRO is fiction, USA, UK and France all have pump-jet driven submarines. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrojet
And all of them can carry and fire nukes.
Russians may not have pump-jet subs, but they sure do have subs equipped with SLBMs.
And judging from the way you associate in your post - you are a pooh-pooh head necrophiliac.
There... now that we got the pleasantries out of the way, let me just point out that by dumping communist and nazis into a same basket you are implying that it is only by chance that USA fought AGAINST Hitler in WWII and not ALONG SIDE him against those red bastards.
Say Pearl Harbor never happened.
Why not invade Britain and then help Hitler subdue those commie Russians. Japs will take care of Chinese, and the rest can be divided later.
Americas and Britain to the USA, Europe and Russia to Germany, and Japs can have the Asia.
Keep Africa under mutual control - one has to get their cheap labor from somewhere, right?
All those non-white and non-arian people will not last forever.
You'd better get to Pearl Harbor and spill some sake on the Arizona for those brave Japanese pilots that enabled you to be the self-righteous prick that you are today.
Imagine commies being wiped out, and nazis being your best pals. Who would you hate then?
Well... we could probably dig up more, but I guess Doubya should be enough for count two.
And count three... well... them darkies sure know how to pick that cotton, and build them railroads don't they?
And all that by the THE democratic government? Wow! Mind boggling.
Only problem is... small, cheap subs are not big enough to land with an jet on and declare "Mission Accomplished".
They are kind of... smallish... and... cheapish. Who is going to make money making those for the military?
Remember the Connery's character? Captain Marko Ramius?
Would you call him a hero and his act (though imaginary) a great achievement?
Stealing an undetectable (super-silent nuclear sub) first strike weapon and running away with it to the enemy?
Or does the analogy only work if you steal from Russians?
That guy may be singlehandedly responsible for the cold war being exactly that - cold.
Cause... come on... why not drop a couple of them on those communist bastards. It isn't like they are people. I heard they don't even believe in god.
And that Stalin fellow... a brutal dictator if I ever saw one. Just look at that mustache. Do you know that in the beginning of the WWII he was palls with Hitler?
I say lets nuke 'em. We can't just sit around while Russian people suffer under the iron heel of communism. Let's bring them the gift of freedom.
Only we gotta be quick... before they build some of their own... They might even give some of them to Chinese.
And we KNOW that they are just NOT like us. Can you even tell them apart from those Japanese? I sure can't.
You lucky unconscious bastards!
I'll wait for a decent DVD Screener-rip, without grayscreens etc. to come out on torrents, and for some other poor schmuck to download it and pass the DVD/CDs around.
Let someone else waste their bandwidth and optical media.
...my sig wrong?
Oh boy...
Humanity outsmarting divinity and stupidity with one blow?
Yeah... right... what will all the religious freaks and politicians do then?