zdnet, Didio, and the like, would be ranting that such a move was proof that scox has a strong case.
IBM has offered to "protect their customers" (whatever that means). Didio has already pointed to that as evidence that scox has put IBM customers are in a positon where they need IBM's protection.
Scox 10-Q just out a few hours ago. Sunw is giving scox another 2.5 million. And, in return, scox is giving sunw more warrants at $1.83/share, or about 10% of scox's present share price.
From scox's 10-Q:
During the quarter ended July 31, 2003, the Company issued a second warrant to the above mentioned SCOsource licensee in connection with payment of amounts owed to the Company under the initial license agreement. The warrant allows the licensee to acquire 12,500 shares of the Company's common stock at an exercise price of $1.83 per share
But I do have a problem with sunw/scox trying to hijack linux. If these companies have their way, linux as we now know it will be gone.
Unlike msft, sunw is very sneaky about it. Penguin-suit McSquealy pretends to advocate linux, while - in secret - sunw is supporting scox, and trying desperately to kill OSS.
Suck up to McSquealy is you like, but don't let this scummy company fool you. Sunw is much dirtier than msft.
Scox shares continue to sky-rocket in deference to news like this. Scox up about 11% just yesterday. Now scox is over $18 a share.
Not bad considering that scox's core business is now *much* worse than a few months ago - when scox was under $2 a share.
All of scox's recent profits come from msft fud money. Untill msft started throwing gobs of money at scox (supposedly for a partial unix linux) scox had never had a profitable quarter. In fact this company with a book value around $10 million was losing as much as $125 million in a year.
Respected Wall-Street Analyst Jonathem Cohen has just prediced that scox will earn an astonishing $3 a share in 2004. I guess Cohen thinks that Bill Gates is feeling awfully generous.
US justice system asleep at the switch. Scox insiders laughing all the way to the bank.
Usually the plantifs in a class-action settlement get exactly nothing.
Class-action lawsuits are of the lawyers, by the lawyers, for the lawyers. Best law firm scam out there today.
Some firms like Milberg-Weiss, sue practically everybody all the time. No kidding hundreds or even thousands of class-actions in a year. If they lose, it costs them practically nothing, if the win Kaa-ching.
If the computer is reasonably new, just remove the heat sink, and let the computer run for a short time - could be a very short time. If you don't want to be caught, just re-install the heat-sink when done. Couldn't be easier.
>>You seem to be assuming that SCO has the backing of the Church, or has a tight association with its leaders;
Scox controlling company Canopy is very closely associated with a group called "Angel Investors." Angel Investors is, in turn, very closedly associated with LDS.
They already filed a lawsuit against msft - and won a big fat settlement - around $250 million.
After caldera-scox won the settlement, they threw dr-dos on the scrap heap. dr-dos, which only cost a couple of million, turned out to be a sweet investment.
UNIX didn't cost scox much either, not compared to unix's value in suing everybody, and thereby pumping scox share price from $1 to $16.
Scox's parent company, canopy, also got a big fat settelment from CA.
Scox's CEO, Darl, got a big fat settlement from his previous employer.
You have to learn to read these scox press releases very carefully. For example: scox said they don't plan to sue linux users, then the same day scox said: just because we don't plan to, doesn't mean we won't.
>>the first batch of bills being sent to around 1,000 US users.
Note the wording? "around 1000" that could mean less than 5.
>>is likely to result in legal action, the company warned>"A large number of commercial Linux users could begin receiving [invoices] in the next month or two.
"could begin"
>>"I would say that a batch in the neighbourhood of 1,000 or so would go out." >"Sooner or later the invoicing will reach European companies I'm sure
"sooner or later" = never.
>>Companies that refuse to pay the invoice may need to have this resolved through the courts,
"may need"
Add it all up. Scox is saying exactly nothing. It's all hype. But isn't that the way fud works?
>>I apply for Unix Systems Administrator positions sometimes, and virtually ALWAYS I get asked for my resume in... MS Word format.
*sigh* I remember once trying to explain to some recruiter that a text document would work with anything, including ms-word. Even over the phone, I could almost smell the smoke pouring out of his ears. I gave up, and sent him an ms-word formated resume.
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Ripped from Yahoo's RHAT message board: === Possible explanation of SCOX price by: heimdal31 08/29/03 04:34 pm Msg: 98717 of 98729
I've tried to put some of the information I've gleaned from the SCO board into more easily digestible form.
I think the most interesting one is
http://www.threenorth.com/sco/cohen.html
but all 4 are linked from
http://www.threenorth.com/sco
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Also: SCO's CEO, Darl McBride, brags about having sued his previous employer for a 7 figure settlement.
>>The SCO Group said today it had never planned to sue any Linux companies, had no concrete plans to sue anyone and also no current plans to take a commercial Linux customer to court.
If you follow scox at all, you know that scox can choose their wording *very* carefully. So, maybe that statement isn't as clear as thought.
For example: "no current plans to take a commercial Linux customer to court." That is not saying that scox is not going to sue linux end users. Scox could still be holding to their "give us protection money or risk a lawsuit" policy.
Say what you want about scox insiders being insane or stupid. Scox share price went up another 20% yesterday. This immediately after strongly negitive news about scox's "code showing."
US justice system asleep at the wheel. Canopy/scox insiders laughing all the way to the bank.
>>Look, no one is making anyone buy SCO stock. If you buy SCO stock, it's because you believe it will go up from the current price.
But if you believe that because scox lied to you. That most certainly is illegal. And scox is most certainly lying about it's potential sorces of revenue. scox is saying that scox can force every linux to pay scox a license - that is just a lie. It is stock manipulation - and it is illegal, just ask sam wacksel.
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I think the HP logo has been removed from scox's web-page announcement.
However, lonetar and microlite are both funding scox. Another two products I plan to boycott.
Many recruiters just don't understand the idea of anything that is not in .Doc format.
My attempts to explain how MS-Word can be used with text; seems only to confuse and frighten the recruiters.
zdnet, Didio, and the like, would be ranting that such a move was proof that scox has a strong case.
IBM has offered to "protect their customers" (whatever that means). Didio has already pointed to that as evidence that scox has put IBM customers are in a positon where they need IBM's protection.
Remember Woody Allan's movie "sleeper" ? It the future it is discovered that smoking and brownies are good for you, and health food is bad for you.
So I say: screw sun. I used to like sun, but not anymore, I'll stick with openoffice
Scox 10-Q just out a few hours ago. Sunw is giving scox another 2.5 million. And, in return, scox is giving sunw more warrants at $1.83/share, or about 10% of scox's present share price.
From scox's 10-Q:
During the quarter ended July 31, 2003, the Company issued a second warrant to the above mentioned SCOsource licensee in connection with payment of amounts owed to the Company under the initial license agreement. The warrant allows the licensee to acquire 12,500 shares of the Company's common stock at an exercise price of $1.83 per share
I've don't have a problem with sunw products.
But I do have a problem with sunw/scox trying to hijack linux. If these companies have their way, linux as we now know it will be gone.
Unlike msft, sunw is very sneaky about it. Penguin-suit McSquealy pretends to advocate linux, while - in secret - sunw is supporting scox, and trying desperately to kill OSS.
Suck up to McSquealy is you like, but don't let this scummy company fool you. Sunw is much dirtier than msft.
Scox shares continue to sky-rocket in deference to news like this. Scox up about 11% just yesterday. Now scox is over $18 a share.
Not bad considering that scox's core business is now *much* worse than a few months ago - when scox was under $2 a share.
All of scox's recent profits come from msft fud money. Untill msft started throwing gobs of money at scox (supposedly for a partial unix linux) scox had never had a profitable quarter. In fact this company with a book value around $10 million was losing as much as $125 million in a year.
Respected Wall-Street Analyst Jonathem Cohen has just prediced that scox will earn an astonishing $3 a share in 2004. I guess Cohen thinks that Bill Gates is feeling awfully generous.
US justice system asleep at the switch. Scox insiders laughing all the way to the bank.
Usually the plantifs in a class-action settlement get exactly nothing.
Class-action lawsuits are of the lawyers, by the lawyers, for the lawyers. Best law firm scam out there today.
Some firms like Milberg-Weiss, sue practically everybody all the time. No kidding hundreds or even thousands of class-actions in a year. If they lose, it costs them practically nothing, if the win Kaa-ching.
If the computer is reasonably new, just remove the heat sink, and let the computer run for a short time - could be a very short time. If you don't want to be caught, just re-install the heat-sink when done. Couldn't be easier.
Flamethrowers? Hammers? Nonesense.
>>You seem to be assuming that SCO has the backing of the Church, or has a tight association with its leaders;
Scox controlling company Canopy is very closely associated with a group called "Angel Investors." Angel Investors is, in turn, very closedly associated with LDS.
They already filed a lawsuit against msft - and won a big fat settlement - around $250 million.
After caldera-scox won the settlement, they threw dr-dos on the scrap heap. dr-dos, which only cost a couple of million, turned out to be a sweet investment.
UNIX didn't cost scox much either, not compared to unix's value in suing everybody, and thereby pumping scox share price from $1 to $16.
Scox's parent company, canopy, also got a big fat settelment from CA.
Scox's CEO, Darl, got a big fat settlement from his previous employer.
This is the way canopy-scox opperates.
You have to learn to read these scox press releases very carefully. For example: scox said they don't plan to sue linux users, then the same day scox said: just because we don't plan to, doesn't mean we won't.
>>the first batch of bills being sent to around 1,000 US users.
Note the wording? "around 1000" that could mean less than 5.
>>is likely to result in legal action, the company warned>"A large number of commercial Linux users could begin receiving [invoices] in the next month or two.
"could begin"
>>"I would say that a batch in the neighbourhood of 1,000 or so would go out." >"Sooner or later the invoicing will reach European companies I'm sure
"sooner or later" = never.
>>Companies that refuse to pay the invoice may need to have this resolved through the courts,
"may need"
Add it all up. Scox is saying exactly nothing. It's all hype. But isn't that the way fud works?
>>I apply for Unix Systems Administrator positions sometimes, and virtually ALWAYS I get asked for my resume in... MS Word format.
*sigh* I remember once trying to explain to some recruiter that a text document would work with anything, including ms-word. Even over the phone, I could almost smell the smoke pouring out of his ears. I gave up, and sent him an ms-word formated resume.
Ripped from Yahoo's RHAT message board:
===
Possible explanation of SCOX price
by: heimdal31 08/29/03 04:34 pm
Msg: 98717 of 98729
I've tried to put some of the information I've gleaned from the SCO board into more easily digestible form.
I think the most interesting one is
http://www.threenorth.com/sco/cohen.html
but all 4 are linked from
http://www.threenorth.com/sco
Also: SCO's CEO, Darl McBride, brags about having sued his previous employer for a 7 figure settlement.
1) Scox gets extension against redhat injunction.
2) Scos web-server goes down (scox blames ibm backed linux community).
3) Scox web-server is back up - but changed, lots of scox claims now missing.
4) Archieved claims are missing - can't be found with serch engines.
5) Scox is now saying: "we were never going to sue anybody."
Desperate little scam. Will it work?
>>The SCO Group said today it had never planned to sue any Linux companies, had no concrete plans to sue anyone and also no current plans to take a commercial Linux customer to court.
If you follow scox at all, you know that scox can choose their wording *very* carefully. So, maybe that statement isn't as clear as thought.
For example: "no current plans to take a commercial Linux customer to court." That is not saying that scox is not going to sue linux end users. Scox could still be holding to their "give us protection money or risk a lawsuit" policy.
Get a brokerage account. Put some money it in. them you want to sell short.
By the way, freetade doesn't have any shares to short. A lot of brokerages don't. Scox is shorted to the hilt right now.
Say what you want about scox insiders being insane or stupid. Scox share price went up another 20% yesterday. This immediately after strongly negitive news about scox's "code showing."
US justice system asleep at the wheel. Canopy/scox insiders laughing all the way to the bank.
There seems to be "slam-dunk" against scox practically every day. But:
1) The USA justtice system seems to be just fine with scox's actions. Serveral agencies have been notified, probably hundreds of times, but no action.
2) The market seems to be just fine with scox's actions. Scox share price stays in the same range, no matter what sort of news comes out.
This is one of many bomb-shells to hit scox lately. Stock price is holding very steady, even as insiders bail.
Maybe it has something to do with Canopy owning about 50% of SCOX. And Canopy controlled companies owning another 35% of SCOX.
Caldera (now scox) got all of their original money, from their IPO as a Linux company.
>>Look, no one is making anyone buy SCO stock. If you buy SCO stock, it's because you believe it will go up from the current price.
But if you believe that because scox lied to you. That most certainly is illegal. And scox is most certainly lying about it's potential sorces of revenue. scox is saying that scox can force every linux to pay scox a license - that is just a lie. It is stock manipulation - and it is illegal, just ask sam wacksel.
>>In the end, what SCO is doing isn't illegal
I am not so sure about that. For scox to say they have grounds to sue all Linux end users, when in fact scox has no such grounds.
Then to demand payments (that scox is not entitled to) under threat of lawsuit: I think that constitutes fraud and extortion.