I always figured Apple went with Intel over AMD strictly because of AMD not having the capacity to meet their demand. You have to remember that Apples chip demands are pretty tiny. I believe that it was only 3% of IBMs production capacity. The scary thing is that Inetl just announced last week they are having capacity issues. They do have 4 fabs that are being converted to 65nm, though. The Merom chip will be the one to watch Apple for. Dual core, low power.
Yeah, it's called the Turion. 35W and much lower. Check out the MSI S270 (not on sale in the US yet, but very soon). I believe HP is already using it in their line.
Other than the obvious reason (new socket, etc.) the biggest reason they waited is that DDR2's latencies were sky high which kills AMDs model. Also, because of the lower clockspeed, AMDs were not starved for memory bandwidth. With the dual cores and the new DDR2s greatly reduced latency it makes sense to start the switch.
Have you not learned from Star Trek? Remember the episodes of various civilizations that automated everything and ended up being wiped out by invaders...yeah, give it fifty years...
FreeBSD based and runs from a CD and a floppy so you don't even have a hard drive to worry about. I think it's the best of the bunch out there other than for pay vendor items (PIX, IronPort, etc.)
NT has had robust per user rights management for a long time. I think most of the arguments in this thread apply to home users only. You have to keep in mind that the Windows (1-3, 95, 98, Me) line and NT line (3-4, 2000, XP, 2003) are completely different code bases. The original Windows died with ME and the IBM/MS derived NT is the only line now.
That paper says the same thing and points out something else; that foreign direct investment jumped tremendously after NAFTA and mentions most of that came from us. All in all not a huge immediate effect on our economy, but you have to ask that if that investment in Mexico from the US had not happened (which it had not previous to NAFTA), would that money been invested in US capacity and workers?
I don't know where you are getting your data but Mexico has benefitted tremendously in trade with the US. According to our own government, there has been ZERO reciprocal trade with Mexico. It is nearly 100% flowing from them to us and they are the number 3 deficit trading partner with us.
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I may be completely off, but I belive Gasse was president of Apple Europe. Jean-Louis and Apple never quite saw eye to eye. When they were looking around for their OS, Be only wanted to license and not sell (they had interest from the clone manufacturers). So instead of licensing BeOS for $10 million/year they bought Next for $400 million and killed off the clone business. I am still not convinced it was the right thing to do, but Steve's the billionaire, not me.
IBM owns the patents to most of the SOI and strained silicon processes. That's why AMD and IBM have an IP sharing contract so they can combine process tech. Intel's strained silicon process is very cheap, but has pretty bad heat issues (gotta have the SOI to buttress the leakage caused by strained matrix).
Kinda leaves Apple in a funny spot. AMD worked with IBM to come up with the process for 90nm SOI/SS at their Fishkill plant which is used in G5 and AMD's chips. I really, really don't see Apple switching to Intel for anything. The reason IBM cannot supply enough G5's is that it is a really hard chip to make. Now, IBM could cross license AltiVec to AMD and AMD could design a dual core AMD64 ISA based chip with it. That would be interesting, an AMD64 chip with AltiVec and no SSE2/3...
That would fix two big issues with the G5...memory latency and production capacity (it's a slightly less complicated chip...although much bigger and more expensive die-wise). Also, both the Fishkill plant and Dresden plants can make such a chip...in addition, AMD has a new fab (FAB36) due to open in a year (for 65nm production). Very fun, but I give this near zero probability.
Ok...I'll bite at an offtopic. That is almost word-for-word boilerplate that is required on any statement from any publicly held company when it could affect the price of stock through speculation. I think that wording has been around since the late '30s. To not have it would violate SEC rules and federal law.
HP has dual core Opterons in blade servers. You really have to dig through their website, but availibility was listed as 4/14...now shipping dates could months from now, so who knows.
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Just thought I would point out that Phil is one of the people who have been in charge of the libstdc++ (GNU Standard C++ Library) for a long time. I realise that no one is used to actual subject authorities on slashdot.
A few years back, a company was testing a pebble style reactor that could go in anything that could handle a diesel. It is targeted at ships but I remember the article stated it would easily scale down to a car. They also mentioned about radiation issues and wrecks that a commercial airliner has more radioactive material (they use depleted uranium for counterbalances).
Don't believe the BS, for the last 20 years China has and still is listed as our number one threat in the world. They are the only other super-power left and they are deeply antagonistic towards several of our interests. If we are not in a nasty war with them over Taiwan in the next 15 years, I'll eat one of my testicles. Back when it was part of my job to review security concerns such as this for the DoD, outsourcing and sale of assets concerning strategic information or infrastructure was a quick "hell, no". We have gone back to the "no matter what we are the best and no one can hurt us" mentality of the Reagan years. Ughh...idiots.
It's not just a bunch of capture the flag runs. It's an evolving persistant universe spread across a lot of servers. It would be really cool if someone figured out a way to spread that across at home servers, but can you imagine how big of a pain it would be to manage to whole mesh with people servers going up and down, different versions of the software, load balancing servers with different capabilities, hacking, etc?
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Ok...that's as much appreciation as I gonna get. Now I have to get back to randomly switching the routers on and off.
I always figured Apple went with Intel over AMD strictly because of AMD not having the capacity to meet their demand. You have to remember that Apples chip demands are pretty tiny. I believe that it was only 3% of IBMs production capacity. The scary thing is that Inetl just announced last week they are having capacity issues. They do have 4 fabs that are being converted to 65nm, though. The Merom chip will be the one to watch Apple for. Dual core, low power.
Yeah, it's called the Turion. 35W and much lower. Check out the MSI S270 (not on sale in the US yet, but very soon). I believe HP is already using it in their line.
Other than the obvious reason (new socket, etc.) the biggest reason they waited is that DDR2's latencies were sky high which kills AMDs model. Also, because of the lower clockspeed, AMDs were not starved for memory bandwidth. With the dual cores and the new DDR2s greatly reduced latency it makes sense to start the switch.
Hey, all I want to know is how many birds it'll kill...we have a real starling problem where I live.
The AMD Turion is already up to 2.2Ghz and down to 25W...oh, and unlike Intels offerings, it is already 64bit capable.
I can't believe no one has mentioned Symphony and it's eadically different interface. SymphonyOS
Have you not learned from Star Trek? Remember the episodes of various civilizations that automated everything and ended up being wiped out by invaders...yeah, give it fifty years...
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FreeBSD based and runs from a CD and a floppy so you don't even have a hard drive to worry about. I think it's the best of the bunch out there other than for pay vendor items (PIX, IronPort, etc.)
NT has had robust per user rights management for a long time. I think most of the arguments in this thread apply to home users only. You have to keep in mind that the Windows (1-3, 95, 98, Me) line and NT line (3-4, 2000, XP, 2003) are completely different code bases. The original Windows died with ME and the IBM/MS derived NT is the only line now.
wow...didn't read the subject line OR the link...this IS slashdot...damn
That paper says the same thing and points out something else; that foreign direct investment jumped tremendously after NAFTA and mentions most of that came from us. All in all not a huge immediate effect on our economy, but you have to ask that if that investment in Mexico from the US had not happened (which it had not previous to NAFTA), would that money been invested in US capacity and workers?
http://management.silicon.com/itdirector/0,3902467 3,39117645,00.htm
This is not unique to India, several countires (including the US) do this in other areas (agriculture is a big one).
I don't know where you are getting your data but Mexico has benefitted tremendously in trade with the US. According to our own government, there has been ZERO reciprocal trade with Mexico. It is nearly 100% flowing from them to us and they are the number 3 deficit trading partner with us.
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I may be completely off, but I belive Gasse was president of Apple Europe. Jean-Louis and Apple never quite saw eye to eye. When they were looking around for their OS, Be only wanted to license and not sell (they had interest from the clone manufacturers). So instead of licensing BeOS for $10 million/year they bought Next for $400 million and killed off the clone business. I am still not convinced it was the right thing to do, but Steve's the billionaire, not me.
IBM owns the patents to most of the SOI and strained silicon processes. That's why AMD and IBM have an IP sharing contract so they can combine process tech. Intel's strained silicon process is very cheap, but has pretty bad heat issues (gotta have the SOI to buttress the leakage caused by strained matrix).
Kinda leaves Apple in a funny spot. AMD worked with IBM to come up with the process for 90nm SOI/SS at their Fishkill plant which is used in G5 and AMD's chips. I really, really don't see Apple switching to Intel for anything. The reason IBM cannot supply enough G5's is that it is a really hard chip to make. Now, IBM could cross license AltiVec to AMD and AMD could design a dual core AMD64 ISA based chip with it. That would be interesting, an AMD64 chip with AltiVec and no SSE2/3...
That would fix two big issues with the G5...memory latency and production capacity (it's a slightly less complicated chip...although much bigger and more expensive die-wise). Also, both the Fishkill plant and Dresden plants can make such a chip...in addition, AMD has a new fab (FAB36) due to open in a year (for 65nm production). Very fun, but I give this near zero probability.
Ok...I'll bite at an offtopic. That is almost word-for-word boilerplate that is required on any statement from any publicly held company when it could affect the price of stock through speculation. I think that wording has been around since the late '30s. To not have it would violate SEC rules and federal law.
HP has dual core Opterons in blade servers. You really have to dig through their website, but availibility was listed as 4/14...now shipping dates could months from now, so who knows.
Just thought I would point out that Phil is one of the people who have been in charge of the libstdc++ (GNU Standard C++ Library) for a long time. I realise that no one is used to actual subject authorities on slashdot.
it appears these are carried in the US under the Tekram brand...
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FYI that's their 102" plasma...nice try, though
A few years back, a company was testing a pebble style reactor that could go in anything that could handle a diesel. It is targeted at ships but I remember the article stated it would easily scale down to a car. They also mentioned about radiation issues and wrecks that a commercial airliner has more radioactive material (they use depleted uranium for counterbalances).
Don't believe the BS, for the last 20 years China has and still is listed as our number one threat in the world. They are the only other super-power left and they are deeply antagonistic towards several of our interests. If we are not in a nasty war with them over Taiwan in the next 15 years, I'll eat one of my testicles. Back when it was part of my job to review security concerns such as this for the DoD, outsourcing and sale of assets concerning strategic information or infrastructure was a quick "hell, no". We have gone back to the "no matter what we are the best and no one can hurt us" mentality of the Reagan years. Ughh...idiots.
If Broadcom drivers were opened up, many more laptops would be able to run Linux. It's the only reason mine doesn't run something other than Windows.
It's not just a bunch of capture the flag runs. It's an evolving persistant universe spread across a lot of servers. It would be really cool if someone figured out a way to spread that across at home servers, but can you imagine how big of a pain it would be to manage to whole mesh with people servers going up and down, different versions of the software, load balancing servers with different capabilities, hacking, etc?