This is not exactly none obvious. I'm pretty sure I've got prior art on this (I'd have to check dates 'cos the company I did it for is now defunct). There must be loads of other people who've done this though.
Its a shame you can't patent business processes - because you could patent getting an obvious patent. Sitting on it for a while until the practice had become widespread and then sueing everyone.
sadly the article uses it too. How can people go on thinking they are correct - despite the fact that the company whose product it is does not use the [made up] term at all.
Mind you GUI development in.Net craps on almost anything else from a great height in terms of speed to market and being able to make large and rapid changes quickly. Not cross platform though.
I had a bit of a play with your jpg (thanks BTW). It seems that its looking for certain features - if you open it in paint and then cut and paste there is a limit on the size of the "chunks" you can paste in. Especially from the face or the shield. However by taking small enough bits (9 or 10) you can cut and paste the whole image in. inverting and rotating (as far as paints minimal abilites go) have no effect.
You clearly haven't been at one of those meetings!
You write as if this is being designed by intelligent people who know exactly what they are doing. Have you ever worked somewhere like that? (although I have. the Williams F1 team got pretty close). Certainly not in government or public sector.
This idea will have been devised by police/politicians in conjunction with (if we are really lucky) some consultants who did know what they are talking about but will have been overruled on everything apart from the following exchange:
"We can do this though?" Consultant: "Yes, but..." "Well there are always technical problems - thats what we pay guys like you to sort out." Consultant: "..."
indeed - I've been using this for a while now. No false positives, I see bits and pieces in my unsure folder - including the "Hi, heres that link you asked for http://spam.spam.spamcorp, cheers.." that Paul Graham reckons is the future of spam.
Given I get over 100 spams a day and I see non of them I am very happy with this indeed.
yeah - 'cos LOR is a bit on the short side and lacking in narrative delvelopment. They should only have done one film really instead of padding it out for three.
I can see it now - they will go after redhat for their Red Hat Network updateer thing and GenToo and of course M$ can foot the bill SCO stylee in return for a cheap license....
The stupid thing is that the authors and Amazon want the same thing - to sell more books. But since this is America they are diving with legal challenges in public instead of figuring out how to make this work to the adantage of all concerned.
There is nothing to stop you waiting years before you defend a patent - it will still be valid. and indeed this would appear to tbe the modus operandi of some post-bubble companies.
If it was easier to buy mp3's than rip them off (searching p2p's or whatever) and if you could get all the benefits of pirate mp3's - listen anywhere, have a copy at home and on my portable player etc. then people would give them money.
Instead - the music industry makes expensive stuff thats increasingly inconvienient and wonders why people are going elsewhere for their music. Oh and they don't pay the artists properly either - just in case we weren't pissed at them enough.
Indeed - now I have a harddisk mp3 player and big hard disks on my various machines its much more convient to have downloaded files. I still want my music collection to be legal though. I don't want to be paying for a worse service than I can get for free (albiet illegally) so no stupid copy protection, no ties to a single machine. Want I want is a subscription based service that gives me the content I want in the way I want it.
I already subscribe to emusic - I would happily pay more for a much bigger choice of music (and I'm not talking about "chart hits" but real music). Illegal p2p systems or whatever are not the best way of getting music - if the music industry delivered it at a good price then people would use it. As it is they are so paranoid about people "stealing" their precious content that they are hurting and pissing off their customers.
Some good points - I get a spam occasionally with my own address forged as the from address.
AT the end of the day whitelists need work to administer - and that is almost as unacceptable as getting spam. I just want my email to work. Like my cell phone - I don't want to have to think about it I just want it there and functional for when I need it.
SpamBayes is doing the job for me these days and it does it well. I only have to reclassify the very odd email and have been getting NO false positives. All with little or no effort on my part.
I don't think that there will ever be a panacea to spam though. The sad fact is that there are sufficent morons out their (and if you look at your spam you cannot think otherwise) that buy the crap that spammers are selling to make it worth their while to send this nonsense to everyone in the whole world just to target this group. Perhaps we are attacking the wrong people - anyone that buys anything from a spammer should have their computer taken away from them.
You will note that I fully accept that its wrong. Its just hard to care when the corporation being hurt are not the most ethical towards the people who make the product. That is NOT the same as it being ok. Read up on the stories of people involved in the music industry - to pick one at random - Bill Nelson. Recently Bill Nelson discovered that his first successful band Bebop Deluxe where not only earning royalities but he had not seen a penny of them. This kind of story is rife - when royalties are paid the contracts are often unfair and explotative.
So - is it wrong to steal from the music industry - yes of course it is. Do I care that people are stealing from them: no not much.
Do you think I care if they dont buy our intellectual property when I dont own any of it and dont profit from any of its sales? Do you think I care if they pirate music when artists dont even own the copyrights on the music?
Extremely good point and well made. Sure piracy is wrong and under current laws illegal. It is really hard to care when the alleged "victims" are multi-billion dollar corps who seem intent on stamping out real music in favour of plastic manufactured nonsense and who are unwilling to actually pay the artists who make the music anyway.
I for one am glad China are making this move - even if they throw up their own Microsoft its more competition and that can only be a good thing
Godwins law doeesn't say anything about winning or losing - it merely states that at some point in any heated internet discussion someone will mention the Nazis. At this point the conversations/argument no longer has anything useful to be said and has most likely become a slanging match.
There is nothing about winners or losers.
Read all about it: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GodwinsLaw
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This is not exactly none obvious. I'm pretty sure I've got prior art on this (I'd have to check dates 'cos the company I did it for is now defunct). There must be loads of other people who've done this though.
"Unless they have replaced all the patent reviewers with monkeys!"
Nah - sharp as razors I've heard.
Oh, wait a minute....
Its a shame you can't patent business processes - because you could patent getting an obvious patent. Sitting on it for a while until the practice had become widespread and then sueing everyone.
sadly the article uses it too. How can people go on thinking they are correct - despite the fact that the company whose product it is does not use the [made up] term at all.
You have to wonder when you get modded up to +5 for a comment that says "I know someone who does this".
Why is that interesting? I know lots of people who do lots of things. Does that mean that this post is worth +5?
Perhaps people should read the article and *then* post. Radical I know.
.NET doens't do n.tier properly either.
.Net craps on almost anything else from a great height in terms of speed to market and being able to make large and rapid changes quickly. Not cross platform though.
Mind you GUI development in
Ok,
I had a bit of a play with your jpg (thanks BTW). It seems that its looking for certain features - if you open it in paint and then cut and paste there is a limit on the size of the "chunks" you can paste in. Especially from the face or the shield. However by taking small enough bits (9 or 10) you can cut and paste the whole image in.
inverting and rotating (as far as paints minimal abilites go) have no effect.
You clearly haven't been at one of those meetings!
You write as if this is being designed by intelligent people who know exactly what they are doing. Have you ever worked somewhere like that? (although I have. the Williams F1 team got pretty close). Certainly not in government or public sector.
This idea will have been devised by police/politicians in conjunction with (if we are really lucky) some consultants who did know what they are talking about but will have been overruled on everything apart from the following exchange:
"We can do this though?"
Consultant: "Yes, but..."
"Well there are always technical problems - thats what we pay guys like you to sort out."
Consultant: "..."
Er, I think you will find that I was taking the piss
indeed - I've been using this for a while now. No false positives, I see bits and pieces in my unsure folder - including the "Hi, heres that link you asked for http://spam.spam.spamcorp, cheers .." that Paul Graham reckons is the future of spam.
Given I get over 100 spams a day and I see non of them I am very happy with this indeed.
yeah - 'cos LOR is a bit on the short side and lacking in narrative delvelopment. They should only have done one film really instead of padding it out for three.
Dijkstra's archive is on line and is indeed fascinating from both an historical point of view and full of ideas as well. Check it out...
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/
Ha Ha,
I can see it now - they will go after redhat for their Red Hat Network updateer thing and GenToo and of course M$ can foot the bill SCO stylee in return for a cheap license....
Ha Ha - I think we can all see what is comming.
Patents are often not awarded for years after they where applied for and are back dated to when they where applied for.
Bye Bye XUL.....(although obviously they will wait until everyone is sold on the idea)
or not enough....
The stupid thing is that the authors and Amazon want the same thing - to sell more books. But since this is America they are diving with legal challenges in public instead of figuring out how to make this work to the adantage of all concerned.
Sadly it probably *is* because people can read it that its become a bad thing.
there should be a FAQ about this:
TRADEMARKS must be defended or lost.
There is nothing to stop you waiting years before you defend a patent - it will still be valid. and indeed this would appear to tbe the modus operandi of some post-bubble companies.
They get dropped by their label when their singles stop entering the UK singles chart at number 1.
(this is normal UK record policy for "pop" acts)
If it was easier to buy mp3's than rip them off (searching p2p's or whatever) and if you could get all the benefits of pirate mp3's - listen anywhere, have a copy at home and on my portable player etc. then people would give them money.
Instead - the music industry makes expensive stuff thats increasingly inconvienient and wonders why people are going elsewhere for their music. Oh and they don't pay the artists properly either - just in case we weren't pissed at them enough.
the mind boggles....
Indeed - now I have a harddisk mp3 player and big hard disks on my various machines its much more convient to have downloaded files.
I still want my music collection to be legal though. I don't want to be paying for a worse service than I can get for free (albiet illegally) so no stupid copy protection, no ties to a single machine. Want I want is a subscription based service that gives me the content I want in the way I want it.
I already subscribe to emusic - I would happily pay more for a much bigger choice of music (and I'm not talking about "chart hits" but real music). Illegal p2p systems or whatever are not the best way of getting music - if the music industry delivered it at a good price then people would use it. As it is they are so paranoid about people "stealing" their precious content that they are hurting and pissing off their customers.
Some good points - I get a spam occasionally with my own address forged as the from address.
AT the end of the day whitelists need work to administer - and that is almost as unacceptable as getting spam. I just want my email to work. Like my cell phone - I don't want to have to think about it I just want it there and functional for when I need it.
SpamBayes is doing the job for me these days and it does it well. I only have to reclassify the very odd email and have been getting NO false positives. All with little or no effort on my part.
I don't think that there will ever be a panacea to spam though. The sad fact is that there are sufficent morons out their (and if you look at your spam you cannot think otherwise) that buy the crap that spammers are selling to make it worth their while to send this nonsense to everyone in the whole world just to target this group. Perhaps we are attacking the wrong people - anyone that buys anything from a spammer should have their computer taken away from them.
You will note that I fully accept that its wrong. Its just hard to care when the corporation being hurt are not the most ethical towards the people who make the product. That is NOT the same as it being ok.
Read up on the stories of people involved in the music industry - to pick one at random - Bill Nelson. Recently Bill Nelson discovered that his first successful band Bebop Deluxe where not only earning royalities but he had not seen a penny of them. This kind of story is rife - when royalties are paid the contracts are often unfair and explotative.
So - is it wrong to steal from the music industry - yes of course it is. Do I care that people are stealing from them: no not much.
Extremely good point and well made. Sure piracy is wrong and under current laws illegal. It is really hard to care when the alleged "victims" are multi-billion dollar corps who seem intent on stamping out real music in favour of plastic manufactured nonsense and who are unwilling to actually pay the artists who make the music anyway.
I for one am glad China are making this move - even if they throw up their own Microsoft its more competition and that can only be a good thing
Godwins law doeesn't say anything about winning or losing - it merely states that at some point in any heated internet discussion someone will mention the Nazis. At this point the conversations/argument no longer has anything useful to be said and has most likely become a slanging match.
There is nothing about winners or losers.
Read all about it: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?GodwinsLaw