Restaurant and the End of The Universe reference here:
The cows need to be samrt enough to have desires, but conditioned to desire to be eaten (and milked... I guess). Voila, problem solved. Take that you frikkin militant bunny hugging leaf eating vegetarian evolutionary contra-active degenerates!
Yeah OK In light of your reasonable and calm response, I apologise for not turning down the vitriol somewhat.
Friends?
Just try to understand that when the minority of reason (of which I -somewhat concietedly- like to include myself) try to make a point, we need to make sure that no weaknesses in the armour are visible.
As to your last question: ALL knowledge helps me. Knowing more is ALWAYS better than knowing less. The oligarcy which I believe has become of the mighty Land of the Free would have everyone except the select few become mindless, TV addicted, junk food consuming xenophobic drones.
AND you have to admit, since Jean Claude van Damme is known as "The muscles from Brussels", and since he's about as far from a pommie as a Uzbeki goatherd, you don't need wikipedia to see your comment was inaccurate:)
You had to take a perfectly valid point of view, and fuck up the argument by displaying an astonishing lack of basic geography. The reason most of your family dont live there anymore is because they exported most fucktards to the colonies.
You know, being ugly only harms yourself, but ignorance bothers everyone. Maybe you should side with goverment, you could be very valuable to the rest of us thinking individuals, playing for the other team.
I really hope you were being ironic, and then apologise for not getting the joke.
I always hoped the stereotype that Americans could name no more than 5 other countries in the world was false. Maybe it is, and maybe you're not even American (though the odds are probably for).
Rubbish Physical violence is often the best solution to a problem, within a very specific framework of ends being met. The best course of action with a bully depends entirely on a classification: 1) Loner, possibly demented sociopathic bully:
a) Find bully's weak spot and firstly attempt to leverage this (alcoholic parents, history of abuse etc) in an attempt at a display of an understanding friendship
b) Wait until bully is alone, hit bully in the back of the head with a brick. This for of bully ultimately splits everyone into 2 camps; predators and prey. Become the predator, but dont add the pressure of humiliation as this might cause a violent retaliation in order to save face. 2) Bully leader, usually with a group of sycophants in tow:
a) Weak spot finding would be less useful unless you can use this to publicly humiliate the bully. A small amount of released information to the group of hangers-on might easily cow the bully into leaving you alone, as the fear of losing face in front of them might be a deciding factor.
b) A small, swift and painful physical attack may be called for, but this must be done publicly, in front of more than the bully's group of friends (In case of accusations later). It should be humiliating (If the bully is a boy, and the bullied is a girl, even better). The best course of action would be to insult the bully into threatening one first, and then a swift cafeteria tray in the teeth, or a head-butt on the nose should suffice. Remember, quickly done, quickly over, but make the bully less in the eyes of his peers. The cost / benefit ratio of attacking you then just becomes too high...
Hell, I got picked on through primary (grades 1 - 7) and the first two years of high school. (Being poor, Afrikaans and bright in an English school in South Africa doesn't help much either) I was always the fat quiet kid that got great grades and had no friends. Then I realised that I needed to start getting laid, worked out like a madman for 6 months, joined the local boxing club, and beat the crap out of the high school bully. Started getting laid, made some friends, and ended up OK (ish)
Then I started hanging around with the stoners... but thats another story:)
Bottom line, he didn't go nuts because he was picked on...... he went nuts cause he was FUCKING NUTS!!!
No media, no parents, no peers, no - one else is to blame when a wackjob goes wacko.
It's time adults (as in old enough to reason, not 'over 18') started taking some personal fucking responsibility in this world, Ghod.
Clearly SOMEONE needs to read their own frekkin post first: "If I write a program that can multiply numbers in addition to the previous program that could only add numbers, it would necessarily take more space. Would you call that a step backward?"
Your argument is space taken, the discussion is minimum RAM for Windows, why bring clock cycles into the argument?
Inadvertent case in point. Clearly SOMEONE didn't do Compsci 101. A computer does multiplication by virtue of addition. A computer does division by virtue of addition. A computer does subtraction by virtue of... you guessed it... addition.
All in binary, all quite simple to understand.
So, NO, adding the functionality of multiplication should require NO extra resources.
Adding a multiplication button however..... THIS is the difference, because, 'as far as most users are concerned, the interface IS the system' (Jef Raskin - Creator of Macintosh). Much as it sucks, in a perfect (i.e no DRM and other hidden agenda) world, resource requirements would STILL escalate, but only in pursuit of the ubiquitous invisible interface. (UII, you heard it here first, prior-art esablished)
Unfortunately, due to the hidden (maybe not so much hidden) agenda of certain software manufacturers in collision with media distribution companies, the interface is becoming MORE intrusive, not less. This is the (only) mistake Microsoft has made with Vista. It may turn out to be an expensive error.
Any bets on how long before we get 'VistaLITE' (http://www.litepc.com/) type solutions? The advantages of the new driver model (if any) + DX10, with only the resource hungriness of XP.
Here's an idea: How about putting up a website with all the bands that are signed up to RIAA affiliated labels (and non signed bands, obviously)? We then need to find out how to send money to those artists without the labels receiving any.
Then, if you like a band, and have (or want to) download some of their art, you can contribute as much as you feel is fair, for them to continue providing you with entertainment. The website doesn't need to host any copyrighted work, if you dont know how to get that anyway, you have no business on slashdot.
The priorities are NOT wrong! Knowledge for knowledge's sake ALWAYS ends up paying off.
Just because we dont know how to make our lives better by virtue of gaining this knowledge now, there's no reason to suppose we'll never know (in fact, history indicates that eventually ALL research pays off to some extent).
If you RTFA and do a slight bit of reasoning (I know, I know, but try), you will see that this research directly helps us understand more of the hydrogen -> helium mechanincs.
Repeat after me: ALL KNOWLEDGE IS VALUABLE. KNOWING IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN NOT KNOWING.
Ignorance being bliss was a concept invented to placate the ignorant.
OK we won't. We will all do our very and utmost extreme darndest to firmly and resolutely in addition to steadfastly implant the living memory of....... Wait, what are we talking about again?... .
someone mod -1 for on-topic but entirely tangental
Neh Your both right CISSP is the gold standard, and most CISSP's are buzzword spouting chimps.
I'm an IT security consultant and consultancy manager , I do the management speak (due to having a CISSP), I can do the actual testing (having an OPST) as well as the analysis (got an OPSA). I am certified to train both. I can also audit and help a client obtain ISO certification for their ISMS (Also have my ISO 27001 Lead and Principle Auditor certs). Hell, I can even integrate the security aspects of a project into the overall testing strategy (Also have my ISEB Practitioner cert).
When interviewing a candidate for a position who has less than 4 years security auditing experience, no amount of degress (or certs) are going to elevate them from a junior introductory position in my department.
Where they go from there is entirely dependant on proven ability (and yes, more certs gained, we get to charge on a scale for consulting, and consultant experience as well as certs makes the hourly rate escalate).
I recomment the Original Poster go out and get a Security+ cert, nice and cheap, not difficult and will give them an idea if this is the the type of work they want to spend the rest of their lives doing.
Do some actual work, and then consider an OPST (or CEH if they can get their internal politics sorted) Do that for a bit and become a team lead and get your OPSA (anyone know the SANS equivalent?) Now you can decide (and hopefilly have saved enough money / impressed your employer enough to pay for) whether you want to go into pure consulting / management, or whether the actual nuts & bolts work is where you want to stay.
It's easier making more money as a senior consultant or management type, but by no means a certainty, some of the best grunts make a very good living by virtue of specialist skills (real cryptography experts are worth their weight in platinum).
Just make sure this is what you really want to do, IT sec is not a field that can be approached half-assed.
As for Microsoft Office Power User....... are you fucking kidding?
It is NOT inevitable that software will have bugs in it. By your reasoning, it is inevitable that bridges have design defects in them, and that at some point (in their usable specified lifetime), will collapse.
This whole fucking "tinkerer" mentality that self important developer assholes have foistered on the rest of mankind, is no different from the self important tinkerer mentality that steam engineers foistered in the 1800's.
Take solace in the fact that the software development world will ultimately fall into the same engineering disciplines as steam and mechanical enginering before it, and whatever mankind pulls out of our asses after it.
Software and any other IT components will ultimately be consumer grade, and the inner mechanics (and bugs) will be a problem for the engineering QA department.
I've brought down an impala at 300 yards with a 60 year old Lee-Metford. (Standard sights.. no scope), and even though I have a military sharpshooting cert, I'm no great shakes.
My old man has the a standing silver and a prone bronze for full bore rifle shooting in the commonwealth games (1962... I think), and even he feels that he was not much competition for somone that either hit first time with a rifle, or didn't eat. (Like most settlers in the 19th century).
Yes, 1000 yards may be slightly exagerated, but I tell you what, I'll go get a nicely restored Savage 303, you go get a Colt 6 single action, we can start walking and shooting at each other from 1000 yards, and we'll see who drops first?:)
The point is that the only people gunslingers could realistically terrorise (as gunslingers) are other gunslingers... anything else is typical hollywood miseducation.
The link above also concisely explains it, gunslingers then, just like car-hijackers today were infamouse not due to accuracy, but due to a disregard for human life.
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Although Greenland is a self governing Danish (Denmark, not 'with a latte please') territory, so country status can be nitpicked.
Nope,i d=44065
The steel drums arent thick enough.
Attach some heavy-ass chains to a drum however:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?
Restaurant and the End of The Universe reference here:
... I guess).
The cows need to be samrt enough to have desires, but conditioned to desire to be eaten (and milked
Voila, problem solved.
Take that you frikkin militant bunny hugging leaf eating vegetarian evolutionary contra-active degenerates!
Yeah OK
:)
In light of your reasonable and calm response, I apologise for not turning down the vitriol somewhat.
Friends?
Just try to understand that when the minority of reason (of which I -somewhat concietedly- like to include myself) try to make a point, we need to make sure that no weaknesses in the armour are visible.
As to your last question:
ALL knowledge helps me.
Knowing more is ALWAYS better than knowing less.
The oligarcy which I believe has become of the mighty Land of the Free would have everyone except the select few become mindless, TV addicted, junk food consuming xenophobic drones.
AND you have to admit, since Jean Claude van Damme is known as "The muscles from Brussels", and since he's about as far from a pommie as a Uzbeki goatherd, you don't need wikipedia to see your comment was inaccurate
The Sproggg
Oh Christ
"Brussels is in England, right?"
You had to take a perfectly valid point of view, and fuck up the argument by displaying an astonishing lack of basic geography.
The reason most of your family dont live there anymore is because they exported most fucktards to the colonies.
You know, being ugly only harms yourself, but ignorance bothers everyone.
Maybe you should side with goverment, you could be very valuable to the rest of us thinking individuals, playing for the other team.
I really hope you were being ironic, and then apologise for not getting the joke.
BTW:
Brussels is the capital of Belgium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels
I always hoped the stereotype that Americans could name no more than 5 other countries in the world was false.
Maybe it is, and maybe you're not even American (though the odds are probably for).
Rubbish
Physical violence is often the best solution to a problem, within a very specific framework of ends being met.
The best course of action with a bully depends entirely on a classification:
1) Loner, possibly demented sociopathic bully:
a) Find bully's weak spot and firstly attempt to leverage this (alcoholic parents, history of abuse etc) in an attempt at a display of an understanding friendship
b) Wait until bully is alone, hit bully in the back of the head with a brick. This for of bully ultimately splits everyone into 2 camps; predators and prey. Become the predator, but dont add the pressure of humiliation as this might cause a violent retaliation in order to save face.
2) Bully leader, usually with a group of sycophants in tow:
a) Weak spot finding would be less useful unless you can use this to publicly humiliate the bully. A small amount of released information to the group of hangers-on might easily cow the bully into leaving you alone, as the fear of losing face in front of them might be a deciding factor.
b) A small, swift and painful physical attack may be called for, but this must be done publicly, in front of more than the bully's group of friends (In case of accusations later). It should be humiliating (If the bully is a boy, and the bullied is a girl, even better). The best course of action would be to insult the bully into threatening one first, and then a swift cafeteria tray in the teeth, or a head-butt on the nose should suffice. Remember, quickly done, quickly over, but make the bully less in the eyes of his peers. The cost / benefit ratio of attacking you then just becomes too high...
Handling bullies 101...
The Sproggg
Hell, I got picked on through primary (grades 1 - 7) and the first two years of high school. (Being poor, Afrikaans and bright in an English school in South Africa doesn't help much either)
:)
I was always the fat quiet kid that got great grades and had no friends.
Then I realised that I needed to start getting laid, worked out like a madman for 6 months, joined the local boxing club, and beat the crap out of the high school bully.
Started getting laid, made some friends, and ended up OK (ish)
Then I started hanging around with the stoners... but thats another story
Bottom line, he didn't go nuts because he was picked on...... he went nuts cause he was FUCKING NUTS!!!
No media, no parents, no peers, no - one else is to blame when a wackjob goes wacko.
It's time adults (as in old enough to reason, not 'over 18') started taking some personal fucking responsibility in this world, Ghod.
Clearly SOMEONE needs to read their own frekkin post first:
"If I write a program that can multiply numbers in addition to the previous program that could only add numbers, it would necessarily take more space. Would you call that a step backward?"
Your argument is space taken, the discussion is minimum RAM for Windows, why bring clock cycles into the argument?
Actually I've had 64bit alpha with OpenVMS and linux for damn near a decade.
The Sproggg
Inadvertent case in point. ... you guessed it... addition.
Clearly SOMEONE didn't do Compsci 101.
A computer does multiplication by virtue of addition.
A computer does division by virtue of addition.
A computer does subtraction by virtue of
All in binary, all quite simple to understand.
So, NO, adding the functionality of multiplication should require NO extra resources.
Adding a multiplication button however.....
THIS is the difference, because, 'as far as most users are concerned, the interface IS the system' (Jef Raskin - Creator of Macintosh).
Much as it sucks, in a perfect (i.e no DRM and other hidden agenda) world, resource requirements would STILL escalate, but only in pursuit of the ubiquitous invisible interface. (UII, you heard it here first, prior-art esablished)
Unfortunately, due to the hidden (maybe not so much hidden) agenda of certain software manufacturers in collision with media distribution companies, the interface is becoming MORE intrusive, not less.
This is the (only) mistake Microsoft has made with Vista.
It may turn out to be an expensive error.
The Sproggg
Would that be the same 48% that voted for Bush?
Well, if his movements included the remains of undigested previous roomate's bodyparts.... I'd want to know...
Any bets on how long before we get 'VistaLITE' (http://www.litepc.com/) type solutions?
The advantages of the new driver model (if any) + DX10, with only the resource hungriness of XP.
That would be sweet.
Here's an idea:
How about putting up a website with all the bands that are signed up to RIAA affiliated labels (and non signed bands, obviously)?
We then need to find out how to send money to those artists without the labels receiving any.
Then, if you like a band, and have (or want to) download some of their art, you can contribute as much as you feel is fair, for them to continue providing you with entertainment.
The website doesn't need to host any copyrighted work, if you dont know how to get that anyway, you have no business on slashdot.
According to Courtney Love, http://www.jdray.com/Daviews/courtney.html
the bands will end up making more money this way anyway.
The priorities are NOT wrong!
Knowledge for knowledge's sake ALWAYS ends up paying off.
Just because we dont know how to make our lives better by virtue of gaining this knowledge now, there's no reason to suppose we'll never know (in fact, history indicates that eventually ALL research pays off to some extent).
If you RTFA and do a slight bit of reasoning (I know, I know, but try), you will see that this research directly helps us understand more of the hydrogen -> helium mechanincs.
Repeat after me:
ALL KNOWLEDGE IS VALUABLE.
KNOWING IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN NOT KNOWING.
Ignorance being bliss was a concept invented to placate the ignorant.
Because of the parents usage of the (simplistic) 3 methods of authentication.
Clearly someone got their Security+ cert recently.
Something you know
Would be the PIN
Something you have
Would be the RFID card
Something you are
Is generally a biometric device confirmation
Any one of the above is normally relatively trivial to crack, as you add the others the difficuly goes up exponentially.
The best systems use all 3.
The Sproggg
Dude, seriously, become a teacher.
Thats the best lay description of the problems with macroscopic detetection of higher dimensions I've ever read.
I would mod you up if I had points.
Damn.
Sure
How the fuck is a 100 + year old gonna get it up?
ssh 192.168.1.1
/usr/local/bin/backup_proggie
DISPLAY=192.168.1.2
export DISPLAY
OK we won't. ...
We will all do our very and utmost extreme darndest to firmly and resolutely in addition to steadfastly implant the living memory of.......
Wait, what are we talking about again?
.
someone mod -1 for on-topic but entirely tangental
The Sproggg
Neh
Your both right
CISSP is the gold standard, and most CISSP's are buzzword spouting chimps.
I'm an IT security consultant and consultancy manager , I do the management speak (due to having a CISSP), I can do the actual testing (having an OPST) as well as the analysis (got an OPSA). I am certified to train both. I can also audit and help a client obtain ISO certification for their ISMS (Also have my ISO 27001 Lead and Principle Auditor certs). Hell, I can even integrate the security aspects of a project into the overall testing strategy (Also have my ISEB Practitioner cert).
When interviewing a candidate for a position who has less than 4 years security auditing experience, no amount of degress (or certs) are going to elevate them from a junior introductory position in my department.
Where they go from there is entirely dependant on proven ability (and yes, more certs gained, we get to charge on a scale for consulting, and consultant experience as well as certs makes the hourly rate escalate).
I recomment the Original Poster go out and get a Security+ cert, nice and cheap, not difficult and will give them an idea if this is the the type of work they want to spend the rest of their lives doing.
Do some actual work, and then consider an OPST (or CEH if they can get their internal politics sorted)
Do that for a bit and become a team lead and get your OPSA (anyone know the SANS equivalent?)
Now you can decide (and hopefilly have saved enough money / impressed your employer enough to pay for) whether you want to go into pure consulting / management, or whether the actual nuts & bolts work is where you want to stay.
It's easier making more money as a senior consultant or management type, but by no means a certainty, some of the best grunts make a very good living by virtue of specialist skills (real cryptography experts are worth their weight in platinum).
Just make sure this is what you really want to do, IT sec is not a field that can be approached half-assed.
As for Microsoft Office Power User....... are you fucking kidding?
Best of Luck
The Sproggg
I, for one, welcome our new nano-enhanced overlords.
Well, SOMEONE had to say it.
Use 3M Scotch Brite High Performance cloth.
Lint free, long lasting polymer weave.
No no no no no no!!!
It is NOT inevitable that software will have bugs in it.
By your reasoning, it is inevitable that bridges have design defects in them, and that at some point (in their usable specified lifetime), will collapse.
This whole fucking "tinkerer" mentality that self important developer assholes have foistered on the rest of mankind, is no different from the self important tinkerer mentality that steam engineers foistered in the 1800's.
Take solace in the fact that the software development world will ultimately fall into the same engineering disciplines as steam and mechanical enginering before it, and whatever mankind pulls out of our asses after it.
Software and any other IT components will ultimately be consumer grade, and the inner mechanics (and bugs) will be a problem for the engineering QA department.
Ummm, not sharpshooters, just normal hunters.
.. no scope), and even though I have a military sharpshooting cert, I'm no great shakes.
... I think), and even he feels that he was not much competition for somone that either hit first time with a rifle, or didn't eat. (Like most settlers in the 19th century).
:)
... anything else is typical hollywood miseducation.
I've brought down an impala at 300 yards with a 60 year old Lee-Metford. (Standard sights
My old man has the a standing silver and a prone bronze for full bore rifle shooting in the commonwealth games (1962
Yes, 1000 yards may be slightly exagerated, but I tell you what, I'll go get a nicely restored Savage 303, you go get a Colt 6 single action, we can start walking and shooting at each other from 1000 yards, and we'll see who drops first?
Take a look at:
http://www.desertusa.com/mag05/jul/myths.html
The point is that the only people gunslingers could realistically terrorise (as gunslingers) are other gunslingers
The link above also concisely explains it, gunslingers then, just like car-hijackers today were infamouse not due to accuracy, but due to a disregard for human life.