", Dan Burk, a professor at the University of Minnesota School of Law, says it is perfectly legal to patent any kind of automated technique, such as Amazon's One-Click patent and Priceline's reverse auction patent. Additionally, he says, "Improvements on known technologies are patentable." "
Nor Can you Patent improvements on Known Technology... as a general statement this is untrue in the class of technology consisting a core basis of Physical Phenonmenon, Natural Law and abstract concepts, to name a few....
Another example is the ECMA-335 document. The Common Language Infrastructure, which is in essence the sum total of programming concepts and datatypes integrated in a non-conflicting manner. Much of which has such a level of prior art that it is not patentable, and that does extend to "improvements".
There is plenty of reason to to get rid of dialup. The only reason to go faster is if you are downloading huge amounts of stuff, like music and movies and linux updates....
By law the telephone company cannot deny competition acess to it's lines. But cable is different.... There is only one cable carrier available to deal with my area.
Ultimately the problem is in the industry not making a clear identification of different product lines. Do so intentionally is an act of consumer fraud and last I understood, such things are supposed to be illegal.... Like Antitrust..
The correct divide between product lines is constrained products on one side and open products on the other. There are different product lines.
To promote otherwise is not only consumer fraud but also anti-trust as it wrongfully attempts to suppress competition and consumer choice.
That's the way it really is. Know it and become informants to the public.
I have no problems in deciding to buy or not buy constrained products and I have no problem with not being able to use those constrained product on an open product line. I'd perhaps even be willing to pay a little more if I felt I needed to use some constrained product on on an open product.
But the problem here is the clear intent to blur and blunder that choice, by the industries, politicians and other involved in teh intent to force me to products against my choice.
Even now I have found since october 9th that I personally cannot access slashdot from my Amiga system without going thru an anonymizer. I resent the hell outof that as it forces me to use a fucking god damn product of a legally found guilty of breaking federal anti-trust law company called Microsoft.
And this is what I am paying taxes for?
There is this document called the "Declaration of Independance" that more people really should read at this this time of government abuses. Seriously!!! Do a google search and read it!
There are those like myself who have not had the best of service from earthlink, even though I live in Atlanta. Even now there is a serious problem dropping carrier. And that's on the lighter side of problems.. Seriously considering finding another ISP.... but on a more related note, somehow all this/. against AOL right now seems soooooo MS.....hey didn't MS "leak" MSN 8 last nite????? Coincedence only go so far and MS ran out early on in the Anti0trust trial.....
Considering dot.com was something of a scam...
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What do you expect of the expectations of those who thought they could work at high paying dot.com that don't really produce anything but speculation about what hype words will be salable next?
I never could figure out what dot coms were trying to sale but the "how to make a million, do what we do... make dot coms"
Imagine a generationm blaming such illusions as being there down fall. Perhaps they need to file a class... uh, errr generation x lawsuite against the dot coms.....huh?
it seems to me that the original article falls into the class of "troll".....
Do you suppose Edison or John Nash (the person the movie "A beautiful mind" is based on) were called Geeks? Or was there some other derogatory term fabricated to suite the time.
All I can say is that you'd damn well better hope there is always some class of people that others fabrticate some derogatory term for because these others feel inferior to on an intellectual level.
Otherwise we can all go back to living in caves, as apparently some really want to happen in promoting the end of advancement mentality of such focus to have less time in focusing on social grunts and groans.
The more you tell a kid they cannot do this or that, the less they will do in their life.
The more constraints you apply in the way of "Cannot" based laws, the more constraints will constrain.
It's really all rather inherently inherent.... knowledge begets knowledge unless knowledge to constrain begets more knowledge to constrain.
What we really need to do is grab a copy of the Declairation of Independance and use it as a inspiration to write a "Freedom to Innovate and Be Creative" document that will act as a foundation for creating laws that protect innovation and creativity, rather than suppress such.
Hmmm now where is Lawrence Lessig and the EFF in supporting the proactive offence rather than being bound up in subjective defence?
DRM and such in effect really create a different product line. One that is more constrained then what we all have come to understand is the highly versatile power of "computers".
Incorporating DRM and such constraining technology is to create a lessor in versatility product line.
There is a real and notable difference in such product lines. The DRM being closer to a consumer appliance then a computer.
It is outright FRAUD being directed at the consumers to deceive the consumers into thinking these two different product lines are one and the same, which they are in fact not.
Further more it is slanderious, libelious and inherently defamation of consumer character to base the proved false need for the incorporation of such constraning technology on the false claim that consumers are theives.
I have no problem with hose who want to create and sell such a product line inclusive of DRM and such. Nor do I have a problem with those who produce works only accessable by such DRM oriented devices.
What I have a problem with is the very clear intent to subvert consumer choice and free enterprise thru acts of deception and collusion on the part of industry and Government.
There are now two clearly different product lines. One constrained by DRM based and like technology and the other not.
Knowing this is the first step towards properly addressing the deceivers and colluders.
law.emory.edu/FEDERAL specifically the need to create a Declaration of independance for the new borderless world of virtual reality and the internet.
(quoting T.D. of I. July 4. 1776)
"WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security....."
We all know this can be re-written in accord with the spirit of the above, perhaps even better, but for the scope of the borderless world of Virtual Reality and the Internet.
Meaning it is our right, our duty to make them go screw themselves.
If Laws are for sale, then when are we going to get a blue light special, that we little guys can buy?
With all thios effort to constrain creativity and innovation, there needs to be effort and work being done to create laws (plenty of licenses are already available) that protect our right to be creative and innovative with what is the most versatile tool we have yet created, the computer.
The constraints being proposed in DRM and such are a contridiction of such creativity and innovation freedom, not to mention the taking away of far use. But if these constraints are chosen to be applied by such a collective, then as product producers they have every right.
HOWEVER, They DO NOT Have the Right to Suppress Competition for Comsumer Choice. It is wrong to try and shut out open systems which contribute to creativity and innovation, not to mention far use.
I should have a choice, not be forced to buy one or the other but have a choice as to whether I am buying a genuine computer or some constrained to the level of dedicated applicance, device.
These are two different items!!! And it should be made clear, made very clear.
On one hand you have appliances and that which will only run on such appliances. On the other hand, the choice of versatility open for being creative and innovative with, limited only by not being able to access products designed specifically for the constrained appliances.
TWO different general Lines of Products. One Constrained, the other NOT.
Those pursuing constraints need the hell to stop infringing upon genuine computers system which were here before they came up with a lessor systems. They need to make it clear to the buying public that they are not taking away consumer choice, but making a different product.
The Consumer has a right to have choice!!
Why has this difference not been identified and made clear to the general public?
It seems very clear to me that there is a great deal of consumer deception going on here.
The sooner software patents lock out innovation the sooner there will then be new laws supporting the right to creativity and innovation, for the benefit to society, created.
Just because you have a patent or copyright on some piece of software does not mean you have somehow magically aquired the all knowing knowledge as to how all to impliment it for the benefit of society, nor are you somehow magically granted the resources to do it.
GNU/Linux and how far and wide it has been implimented is a good example of what such laws supporting creativity and innovation can help to increase the rate of return to society.
It is this playing around in the the middle area of this divide that is delaying the ultimate in advancements.
Either shut down creativity and innovation completely so to know the stagnation and death that will follow it, or get the fuck outoif the way and let people who will do moving forward, have at it, for eveyone benefit including yours.
Now that they have solved the tall guy sitting in front of you in the movie theater.... Now they just need to solve the jerk sitting behind you kicking your seat.
But the real criminals are those responsible for initially putting it on the web.
And the fact of the matter is.....Most people won't download it and t ones that do will only cause a spreading oif the word as to whether or not it's a good movie.
Hmmmm, how much money could be saved in mass marketing if replaced with the word of mouth die hard big file swapers?
If youy can't access the anime......
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Then the Matrix has you...
I mean damn man, do you really expect to see yourself?
Slashdot Mirror
", Dan Burk, a professor at the University of Minnesota School of Law, says it is perfectly legal to patent any kind of automated technique, such as Amazon's One-Click patent and Priceline's reverse auction patent. Additionally, he says, "Improvements on known technologies are patentable." "
....
These are not quite true.
You cannot Patent any kind of automated technique!!! Why? Because I said so, and so does Father physics and Mother nature!!!!)
Nor Can you Patent improvements on Known Technology... as a general statement this is untrue in the class of technology consisting a core basis of Physical Phenonmenon, Natural Law and abstract concepts, to name a few
Another example is the ECMA-335 document. The Common Language Infrastructure, which is in essence the sum total of programming concepts and datatypes integrated in a non-conflicting manner.
Much of which has such a level of prior art that it is not patentable, and that does extend to "improvements".
There is plenty of reason to to get rid of dialup. The only reason to go faster is if you are downloading huge amounts of stuff, like music and movies and linux updates....
.... MS..... other...
By law the telephone company cannot deny competition acess to it's lines. But cable is different.... There is only one cable carrier available to deal with my area.
I prefer to support open and fair competition.
Don't you?
AOL
Ultimately the problem is in the industry not making a clear identification of different product lines. Do so intentionally is an act of consumer fraud and last I understood, such things are supposed to be illegal.... Like Antitrust..
The correct divide between product lines is constrained products on one side and open products on the other. There are different product lines.
To promote otherwise is not only consumer fraud but also anti-trust as it wrongfully attempts to suppress competition and consumer choice.
That's the way it really is. Know it and become informants to the public.
I have no problems in deciding to buy or not buy constrained products and I have no problem with not being able to use those constrained product on an open product line. I'd perhaps even be willing to pay a little more if I felt I needed to use some constrained product on on an open product.
But the problem here is the clear intent to blur and blunder that choice, by the industries, politicians and other involved in teh intent to force me to products against my choice.
Even now I have found since october 9th that I personally cannot access slashdot from my Amiga system without going thru an anonymizer. I resent the hell outof that as it forces me to use a fucking god damn product of a legally found guilty of breaking federal anti-trust law company called Microsoft.
And this is what I am paying taxes for?
There is this document called the "Declaration of Independance" that more people really should read at this this time of government abuses. Seriously!!! Do a google search and read it!
What questions go unanswered?
There are those like myself who have not had the best of service from earthlink, even though I live in Atlanta. Even now there is a serious problem dropping carrier. And that's on the lighter side of problems.. Seriously considering finding another ISP .... but on a more related note, somehow all this /. against AOL right now seems soooooo MS.....hey didn't MS "leak" MSN 8 last nite????? Coincedence only go so far and MS ran out early on in the Anti0trust trial.....
A s t r o t u r f.... or is it MS.turf?
for protecting the right to be creative and innovative?
Got and Eraser?
What do you expect of the expectations of those who thought they could work at high paying dot.com that don't really produce anything but speculation about what hype words will be salable next?
I never could figure out what dot coms were trying to sale but the "how to make a million, do what we do... make dot coms"
Imagine a generationm blaming such illusions as being there down fall. Perhaps they need to file a class... uh, errr generation x lawsuite against the dot coms.....huh?
it seems to me that the original article falls into the class of "troll".....
Do you suppose Edison or John Nash (the person the movie "A beautiful mind" is based on) were called Geeks? Or was there some other derogatory term fabricated to suite the time.
All I can say is that you'd damn well better hope there is always some class of people that others fabrticate some derogatory term for because these others feel inferior to on an intellectual level.
Otherwise we can all go back to living in caves, as apparently some really want to happen in promoting the end of advancement mentality of such focus to have less time in focusing on social grunts and groans.
The more you tell a kid they cannot do this or that, the less they will do in their life.
The more constraints you apply in the way of "Cannot" based laws, the more constraints will constrain.
It's really all rather inherently inherent.... knowledge begets knowledge unless knowledge to constrain begets more knowledge to constrain.
What we really need to do is grab a copy of the Declairation of Independance and use it as a inspiration to write a "Freedom to Innovate and Be Creative" document that will act as a foundation for creating laws that protect innovation and creativity, rather than suppress such.
Hmmm now where is Lawrence Lessig and the EFF in supporting the proactive offence rather than being bound up in subjective defence?
DRM and such in effect really create a different product line. One that is more constrained then what we all have come to understand is the highly versatile power of "computers".
Incorporating DRM and such constraining technology
is to create a lessor in versatility product line.
There is a real and notable difference in such product lines. The DRM being closer to a consumer appliance then a computer.
It is outright FRAUD being directed at the consumers to deceive the consumers into thinking these two different product lines are one and the same, which they are in fact not.
Further more it is slanderious, libelious and inherently defamation of consumer character to base the proved false need for the incorporation of such constraning technology on the false claim that consumers are theives.
I have no problem with hose who want to create and sell such a product line inclusive of DRM and such. Nor do I have a problem with those who produce works only accessable by such DRM oriented devices.
What I have a problem with is the very clear intent to subvert consumer choice and free enterprise thru acts of deception and collusion on the part of industry and Government.
There are now two clearly different product lines.
One constrained by DRM based and like technology and the other not.
Knowing this is the first step towards properly addressing the deceivers and colluders.
Now who gets to change the rules? The owner of course.
It's a well known fact Bill Gates is a Game player.
Ever wonder what game he was playing that he got off of
the anti-trust suit, with only a slap on the hand and told
not to do it again?
Do you really want to buy games from a cheater?
What up with all the MS articles lately.
/.?
Did MS buy
Add up all the anti-rights going on including DRM and Palladuim (sp?) and what you have is a revert back to the dark ages via computers....
I've been saying that it's been more majic spells and such than computer science.....
We have been there before and have gotten out of it before...
If history is a lesson to prevent duplication of history, then why are we not using that history to not duplicate it?
What is relavant:
law.emory.edu/FEDERAL specifically the need to create a
Declaration of independance for the new borderless world of virtual
reality and the internet.
(quoting T.D. of I. July 4. 1776)
"WHEN in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People
to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another,
and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal
Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a
decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should
declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.
WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness -- That
to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving
their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any
Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of
the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in
such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and
Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long
established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and
accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to
suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing
the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses
and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to
reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty,
to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future
Security.
We all know this can be re-written in accord with the spirit of the above,
perhaps even better, but for the scope of the borderless world of Virtual
Reality and the Internet.
Meaning it is our right, our duty to make them go screw themselves.
If Laws are for sale, then when are we going to get a blue light special,
that we little guys can buy?
With all thios effort to constrain creativity and innovation, there needs to be effort and work being done to create laws (plenty of licenses are already available) that protect our right to be creative and innovative with what is the most versatile tool we have yet created, the computer.
The constraints being proposed in DRM and such are a contridiction of such creativity and innovation freedom, not to mention the taking away of far use. But if these constraints are chosen to be applied by such a collective, then as product producers they have every right.
HOWEVER, They DO NOT Have the Right to Suppress Competition for Comsumer Choice. It is wrong to try and shut out open systems which contribute to creativity and innovation, not to mention far use.
I should have a choice, not be forced to buy one or the other but have a choice as to whether I am buying a genuine computer or some constrained to the level of dedicated applicance, device.
These are two different items!!! And it should be made clear, made very clear.
On one hand you have appliances and that which will only run on such appliances. On the other hand, the choice of versatility open for being creative and innovative with, limited only by not being able to access products designed specifically for the constrained appliances.
TWO different general Lines of Products.
One Constrained, the other NOT.
Those pursuing constraints need the hell to stop infringing upon genuine computers system which were here before they came up with a lessor systems. They need to make it clear to the buying public that they are not taking away consumer choice, but making a different product.
The Consumer has a right to have choice!!
Why has this difference not been identified and made clear to the general public?
It seems very clear to me that there is a great deal of consumer deception going on here.
You mean its not a feature?
The sooner software patents lock out innovation the sooner there will then be new laws supporting the right to creativity and innovation, for the benefit to society, created.
Just because you have a patent or copyright on some piece of software does not mean you have somehow magically aquired the all knowing knowledge as to how all to impliment it for the benefit of society, nor are you somehow magically granted the resources to do it.
GNU/Linux and how far and wide it has been implimented is a good example of what such laws supporting creativity and innovation can help to increase the rate of return to society.
It is this playing around in the the middle area of this divide that is delaying the ultimate in advancements.
Either shut down creativity and innovation completely so to know the stagnation and death that will follow it, or get the fuck outoif the way and let people who will do moving forward, have at it, for eveyone benefit including yours.
what are they going to do with the unsold units?
Now that they have solved the tall guy sitting in front of you in the movie theater .... Now they just need to solve the jerk sitting behind you kicking your seat.
But the real criminals are those responsible for initially putting it on the web.
And the fact of the matter is.....Most people won't download it and t ones that do
will only cause a spreading oif the word as to whether or not it's a good movie.
Hmmmm, how much money could be saved in mass marketing if replaced with the word of
mouth die hard big file swapers?
Then the Matrix has you...
I mean damn man, do you really expect to see yourself?
signed, the real life Neo..
So how much do they charge per use?
beginning to happen..... The Dark Ages again....
Was watching a Voyager rerun last nite - it was broadcast in digital and had more digital corruption in it and the analog air wave static..
First time I saw that epsoide, it wasn't being broadcast in digital format and look fine...
Like music I guess TV is going down hill too.
All in the name of anti-piracy.....
It works too......if nobody wants it.....who's gonna pirate it?
The ultimate in piracy protection!!!! yeah buddy.....happy now?