What this amounts to is the ability of MS to tell people they have to pay a royality if they identify who they are talking to upon receiving a phone call.
Ring Ring
joe: hello
Hello joe.
joe: Who is this?
You know who this is, so hows it going joe?
Joe: Who is this?
Stop fooling around Joe, Are you going to visit soon?
Joe: Who is this?
Well if you don't want to talk then good bye.
click
From the other end. My own son doesn't recognize his own mothers voice...
From Joes end: Must have been some crazy lady with MS stock....
not to forget... how many times do you get sales calls from the same person at a telemarketing company? Or a bill collector?
But just imagine what can be accomplished should all the identifications people make on their system be then collected up by the government spy agencies..... without your knowledge.
Of course if you are running a business where those answering the phone can vary but you want to give personalized reception of the call....
Come to think of it.... this technology was already in use around 1993 at some computer distributor in Califorina who used it to identify customer, regardless of what phone they were calling from (nixing caller ID).... As I became aware of just such an incidence and asked them about it. I was told they developed it in-house. I'm sure I could probably find the store name, as it was where I bought and Amiga Toaster 4000 from.
When I look up a word in a dictionary I don't start at the beginning of the dictionary, I do a location based search, starting in the section that starts with "F" and then jumping to the pages that the "f" is followed by an "r" and then "a"... "u"... "d" and then in this recursive human act I location search the definition for the relevant meaning...
Now maybe the patent office applies some other technique to deal with their search needs rather than using location searching, but I use location searching along with many many more people.
Just because its done through computers doesn't mean anything new.....For what are computer softwares modeled after, if not human thought...
... crunched up computer electronics contains a lot more precious metals than the ore that originated the metals... they should be paying the individuals disposing the stuff....
... consider what your reaction to this is going to be.
Suggested Search terms: "Well damn, if I look at crack sites, am I going to be busted for attempted piracy" when I was really looking for a download 30 trial of autodesk Inventor 2008. Its also interesting that directly after the last law related passed, all crack sites are asking for some small amount of payment --- so as to verify identity....
I'm absolutely certain that search terms can be made to communicate to the spys well enough to cause a "MAD - Spy vs. Spy" episode in real life internet.....
I also discovered that AT&T (bellsouth) can see even my passwords to email accounts not on their network if I use their network to access it. And note even I don't get to see the password I type in......
There is a whole bunch of shit going down so it should be real easy to cause such a spy vs spy event... perhaps one dealing with the fraud of software patents.
Yes it is much faster to send an existing index of files info over the net than to send on the fly generated directory listings. Likewise it is less obvious too, if sending to a party that is not authorized.
Indexing and search are?
A) The same
B) Different
c) both A & B
It's not a bug, its a feature.... it's not a search, its an indexing. Trust us, we are the MSNSA.
Consumers/buyers are the ones with the loudest voice, they are the ones the politicians are really supposed to listen to, but if the information that allows the consumer to check it out for themselves and express their choice and concerns, is kept confidential and away from the consumer then there is one question to ask: Why?
What is it that Microsofts search engine is looking for that it is always running and why is the initial political response backing this?
Sidebar: IS there some connection to spying on the public, which in this case would be the public even outside of the US? If it is then I suspect, due to the easy to hypothisize of the 6 billion or so people in the world, it is some fraction of 1 percent that are in positions of warmongering and in general causing problems that otherwise do not exist. If it is for spying then that a lot of funding that could be better spent fixing real problems and removing the excuses of these major wrong doers. End of sidebar:
Back to the MS search engine. Why is it always on?
So instead we end users are forced to watch this insanity as we are prevented from doing things for ourselves that we would otherwise be able to do, as the proof would most certainly expose such a great deal of false constraints imposed upon the users that it would then be considered illegal consumer deception/fraud.
In short, proof of the non-patentability of software would in part come from non-novel and obvious solution direction of anyone within the given field, not just programmers/coders. I.E. one click online shopping.
So it must be very very clear that stories like this one are based on consumer deception continuing, rather than genuine exposure of the real problem.
Back in the 70's when there was a trend of using CB it was commone to take a florescent tube light and putting it near the antenna, keying the mic and watching the bulb light up with no wires attached, actually hand held.
Also you could take a regular house light bulb and throw it up in front of a military radio transmitter/disk and it would go off like a camera flash.
What this means is that for there to be wireless power transmission there is probably something that can cook a human too.
... Gates educated the government on marketing hype practices as part of the sentence bargaining of the DOJ VS. MS case. Really. And the Gov bush got practice during the war drum banging on pre war iraq... yeah know prove you don't have WMDs.... (against scientific perspective of not being able to prove a negative, like prove there is no god.)
Just wifi it all up really good (multi-channels) and use that wifi blocking paint on the outside to keep others out. That way when it floods again you can grab it up and take it with you. And once you establish the workability of it you can use your home as a working example of your new internal wifi home technology business.
As technology advances things get smaller, faster and able to store more information in that small and faster.
That's what you can count on for the future, and not the need for more wiring as some have suggested you to conduit for upgrade possibility.
...your computer didn't have the reset switch (hardwired power supply on/off switch) due to the over engineering of it to be a software controlled power switch. That is where this button could have been really handy. Giving back the fundamental power switch so grandma doesn't have to climb under the desk to unplug the power plug.
Even better how about a clapit switch. Then everyone can applaud blue screens of death while MS use the applause are a positive sign of acceptance.
... there is a time limit from fist publication of an invention to when it can be applied for a patent. If that time is exceeded then no patent will be granted. The case itself (not to mention when the USPTO first granted the patent) is far older than that time limit.
Obviously if MS can prove they invented it first, then both patents are invalid. Eolas because they were not the first to invent and MS because the technology was in use far longer than allowed, prior to their patent application.
This can also be the test case to prove or disprove the arguement of changing to first to file from first to invent, as supposedly the arguement is that prior art evidence rules in either case. In other words, you shouldn't have to file for a patent on something you do not want or believe is patentable, that you developed and without fear that someone else will take your work and be the first to file.
If the USPTO ignores their own first publication rules (and this does include public use) then they only add to the invalidation of the patent system (which extends beyond just software).
And this doesn't even touch on the fact that software patents are acts of fraud, as software is made up of the universal agreed upon things that cannot be patented. Natural Law, Physical Phenomenon, Abstract ideas and the rest (i.e. mathematical algorithms) are subsets of these three primary NON-PATENTABLE things. see: http://threeseas.net/abstraction_physics.html
...works really well if you first watch the video you want to download, putting it in your cache. Then going to video downloader, and regardless of the file size, takes just a few seconds and you are done. Apparently it can grab it from your cache and make it a file on you system (very little for it to really do - very low bandwidth to convert).
In fact, it seems to me that when it doesn't work, "service not available" only happens when I don't watch it first, not in my cache.
There are several development tools that have such a license. That if you are developing GPL software then the GPL license applies, but if you are developing comercial closed source then you pay.
Though this is a Virtual Machine, not the software that runs on it, you typically have to have some sort of clearance or approval to install and run such software in a large company. And having a paper trail of purchase or licensing fits the traditional business model. So yeah, if they actually produce, it makes since, however...
How long will it be before someone gets the idea to simply put it all on a memory stick and/or live CD/DVD such that they can take it with them, yet run it on top of other running OS's, that would then allow the best of both worlds (let the best app win regardless of OS)....
BTW, a windows version of D-BUS is being developed and in a case like this, it can be what integrates the two system applications. And that is what will make it really useful.
Imagine taking your personal tool box to work that you keep and which adds to your value to the company.
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What this amounts to is the ability of MS to tell people they have to pay a royality if they identify who they are talking to upon receiving a phone call.
Ring Ring
joe: hello
Hello joe.
joe: Who is this?
You know who this is, so hows it going joe?
Joe: Who is this?
Stop fooling around Joe, Are you going to visit soon?
Joe: Who is this?
Well if you don't want to talk then good bye.
click
From the other end. My own son doesn't recognize his own mothers voice...
From Joes end: Must have been some crazy lady with MS stock....
not to forget...
how many times do you get sales calls from the same person at a telemarketing company?
Or a bill collector?
But just imagine what can be accomplished should all the identifications people make on their system be then collected up by the government spy agencies..... without your knowledge.
Of course if you are running a business where those answering the phone can vary but you want to give personalized reception of the call....
Come to think of it.... this technology was already in use around 1993 at some computer distributor in Califorina who used it to identify customer, regardless of what phone they were calling from (nixing caller ID).... As I became aware of just such an incidence and asked them about it. I was told they developed it in-house. I'm sure I could probably find the store name, as it was where I bought and Amiga Toaster 4000 from.
Fraud against the consumer...
... "d" and then in this recursive human act I location search the definition for the relevant meaning...
When I look up a word in a dictionary I don't start at the beginning of the dictionary, I do a location based search, starting in the section that starts with "F" and then jumping to the pages that the "f" is followed by an "r" and then "a"... "u"
Now maybe the patent office applies some other technique to deal with their search needs rather than using location searching, but I use location searching along with many many more people.
Just because its done through computers doesn't mean anything new.....For what are computer softwares modeled after, if not human thought...
...go and bust people that treated me badly?
I believe its called impersonation and its against the law.
So why are they not busted for it?
... crunched up computer electronics contains a lot more precious metals than the ore that originated the metals... they should be paying the individuals disposing the stuff....
... consider what your reaction to this is going to be.
Suggested Search terms:
"Well damn, if I look at crack sites, am I going to be busted for attempted piracy" when I was really looking for a download 30 trial of autodesk Inventor 2008. Its also interesting that directly after the last law related passed, all crack sites are asking for some small amount of payment --- so as to verify identity....
I'm absolutely certain that search terms can be made to communicate to the spys well enough to cause a "MAD - Spy vs. Spy" episode in real life internet.....
I also discovered that AT&T (bellsouth) can see even my passwords to email accounts not on their network if I use their network to access it. And note even I don't get to see the password I type in......
There is a whole bunch of shit going down so it should be real easy to cause such a spy vs spy event... perhaps one dealing with the fraud of software patents.
Yes it is much faster to send an existing index of files info over the net than to send on the fly generated directory listings. Likewise it is less obvious too, if sending to a party that is not authorized.
Indexing and search are?
A) The same
B) Different
c) both A & B
It's not a bug, its a feature.... it's not a search, its an indexing. Trust us, we are the MSNSA.
So what does google have to do with MS's search engine always running?
Even if google was evil, I'd still want to be able to turn off a search engine created by a proven anti-trust violator.
Wouldn't you?
Just because people claim google is evil is no reason to dismiss an act of a part that has been proven evil.
There must be a lot of MS supporters responding to the article, for who could miss the obviousnesss of this.
The party bringing out the fact that MS's search engine is always on is itself not an evil act. Unless you work for MS.
... like CONSUMER CHOICE!
Consumers/buyers are the ones with the loudest voice, they are the ones the politicians are really supposed to listen to, but if the information that allows the consumer to check it out for themselves and express their choice and concerns, is kept confidential and away from the consumer then there is one question to ask: Why?
What is it that Microsofts search engine is looking for that it is always running and why is the initial political response backing this?
Sidebar:
IS there some connection to spying on the public, which in this case would be the public even outside of the US?
If it is then I suspect, due to the easy to hypothisize of the 6 billion or so people in the world, it is some fraction of 1 percent that are in positions of warmongering and in general causing problems that otherwise do not exist. If it is for spying then that a lot of funding that could be better spent fixing real problems and removing the excuses of these major wrong doers.
End of sidebar:
Back to the MS search engine. Why is it always on?
.. I'd like to see the math and results of income to such organizations and businesses ... but prior to internet.
In other words, who gets what without the internet?
...who wants to produce the proof?
So instead we end users are forced to watch this insanity as we are prevented from doing things for ourselves that we would otherwise be able to do, as the proof would most certainly expose such a great deal of false constraints imposed upon the users that it would then be considered illegal consumer deception/fraud.
In short, proof of the non-patentability of software would in part come from non-novel and obvious solution direction of anyone within the given field, not just programmers/coders. I.E. one click online shopping.
So it must be very very clear that stories like this one are based on consumer deception continuing, rather than genuine exposure of the real problem.
enough companies sign up with MS and then decide as a whole to apply patent rights against everyone else not a customer of one of the companies?
Back in the 70's when there was a trend of using CB it was commone to take a florescent tube light and putting it near the antenna, keying the mic and watching the bulb light up with no wires attached, actually hand held.
Also you could take a regular house light bulb and throw it up in front of a military radio transmitter/disk and it would go off like a camera flash.
What this means is that for there to be wireless power transmission there is probably something that can cook a human too.
... if thats the code it runs, I want nothing to do with it...
cookie STEALING, page HIJACKING, memory CORRUPTION, code EXECUTION, and URL bar spoofing ATTACKS.
So where the fuck is home land security when you need them.
... Gates educated the government on marketing hype practices as part of the sentence bargaining of the DOJ VS. MS case. Really. And the Gov bush got practice during the war drum banging on pre war iraq... yeah know prove you don't have WMDs.... (against scientific perspective of not being able to prove a negative, like prove there is no god.)
And look how good it works...
... http://www.totousa.com/washlets_landing2.asp With a remote that will please the geek in every guy.7 210556,00.html (don't piss on the seat)
but be warned http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2001320029-200
... do people suspect wrong doings of such corporate things? And why do such Corporations continue to commit wrong doings of such things?
Your supposed to use the paint on the outside of your house only, not on the inside walls...
Just wifi it all up really good (multi-channels) and use that wifi blocking paint on the outside to keep others out.
That way when it floods again you can grab it up and take it with you. And once you establish the workability of it you can use your home as a working example of your new internal wifi home technology business.
As technology advances things get smaller, faster and able to store more information in that small and faster.
That's what you can count on for the future, and not the need for more wiring as some have suggested you to conduit for upgrade possibility.
...your computer didn't have the reset switch (hardwired power supply on/off switch) due to the over engineering of it to be a software controlled power switch. That is where this button could have been really handy. Giving back the fundamental power switch so grandma doesn't have to climb under the desk to unplug the power plug.
Even better how about a clapit switch. Then everyone can applaud blue screens of death while MS use the applause are a positive sign of acceptance.
... there is a time limit from fist publication of an invention to when it can be applied for a patent. If that time is exceeded then no patent will be granted.
The case itself (not to mention when the USPTO first granted the patent) is far older than that time limit.
Obviously if MS can prove they invented it first, then both patents are invalid.
Eolas because they were not the first to invent and MS because the technology was in use far longer than allowed, prior to their patent application.
This can also be the test case to prove or disprove the arguement of changing to first to file from first to invent, as supposedly the arguement is that prior art evidence rules in either case. In other words, you shouldn't have to file for a patent on something you do not want or believe is patentable, that you developed and without fear that someone else will take your work and be the first to file.
If the USPTO ignores their own first publication rules (and this does include public use) then they only add to the invalidation of the patent system (which extends beyond just software).
And this doesn't even touch on the fact that software patents are acts of fraud, as software is made up of the universal agreed upon things that cannot be patented.
Natural Law, Physical Phenomenon, Abstract ideas and the rest (i.e. mathematical algorithms) are subsets of these three primary NON-PATENTABLE things.
see: http://threeseas.net/abstraction_physics.html
...works really well if you first watch the video you want to download, putting it in your cache. Then going to video downloader, and regardless of the file size, takes just a few seconds and you are done. Apparently it can grab it from your cache and make it a file on you system (very little for it to really do - very low bandwidth to convert).
In fact, it seems to me that when it doesn't work, "service not available" only happens when I don't watch it first, not in my cache.
...and what does this say for the mindset of warmongers?
Seems clear that due to this uncovered evidence, the majority of us will follow this natural tendancy when we are secure enough in our own needs.
There are several development tools that have such a license. That if you are developing GPL software then the GPL license applies, but if you are developing comercial closed source then you pay.
Though this is a Virtual Machine, not the software that runs on it, you typically have to have some sort of clearance or approval to install and run such software in a large company. And having a paper trail of purchase or licensing fits the traditional business model. So yeah, if they actually produce, it makes since, however...
How long will it be before someone gets the idea to simply put it all on a memory stick and/or live CD/DVD such that they can take it with them, yet run it on top of other running OS's, that would then allow the best of both worlds (let the best app win regardless of OS)....
BTW, a windows version of D-BUS is being developed and in a case like this, it can be what integrates the two system applications. And that is what will make it really useful.
Imagine taking your personal tool box to work that you keep and which adds to your value to the company.
... ads for free....meaning the ones who are to buy the product are the ones to create the ads for it, without pay.
Did I miss something or are they just trying to emulate the software development process.
1) get others to come up with ideas for free.
2) sell it to them.
3) profit