Yet you missed the point, it doesn't have to do with crime rates. It has to do with banning of said items in the public for whatever reason, be it guns, knives or *insert generic blunt object*.
Well yes and no. See you used to have guns too, but those are gone. Now that people are committing crimes with knives, they're banning knives, but crime rates are still going up. I suppose years of terrorism from Ireland can do things like that to people, but still no excuse. Perhaps some things to watch from this. But perchance, lets say the knife issue continues and such and the criminals who pay heed to no law go onto screwdrivers, or baseball bats? Will there be a ban on those? Maybe Cricket bats? I'm sure you can see where this will run.
You've got enough camera's to make a people cry but it doesn't seem to be working to reduce crime, you have parents who are taking background checks and the same for volunteers for every conceivable activity. And there's nothing like having the odd issue of a parent drop by saying they've had one of these checks but...still not even knowing their name.
I personally feel that far too many people suffer from the government is always right, the media is reporting the truth and it's lost focus with the local stories, blowing larger national stories out of touch; Allowing fear to go rampant inside the UK and power hungry politicians are using this to secure their own little place in history rather then doing the right thing.
It's sad to see the UK fall from what it once was, and I live in a country that was founded under the commonwealth. I can see the same trends here, and people are generally either too apathetic or believe that government knows best. Especially those of us that live under common law.
Yes, I'm sure. If they don't discriminate in making people criminals (so if everyone is an criminal now), these laws are very fair. Is it more funny for you now?
Absolutely, then again you just pointed out the problem with unfair and unjust laws.
If they make criminals of EVERYONE, then they ARE fair.
Are you sure? I'm sure there's plenty of people on/. that can name several laws that are unfair and make criminals of people but doing something is considered a social norm. To boil it down simply, any law that makes large segments of the population a criminal should be looked at objectively by both society, the judicial and the legislative branch.
Cicero said that excessive law is no law.(To paraphrase) The point on this when a society makes laws that criminalize the 'norm' of behavior, has legislation become excessive?
If by then, you accept all laws to be fair regardless of how excessive they are. This is an example in the story. How much further are you willing to go?
Is everyone buying into mumbo-jumbo and super-hype still? Yes I'm that cynical.
I suppose if you need to have feel good projects, tell them to go plant a forest and sell it later for profit, then plant a new one. On top of that they can sell carbon credits for money. It becomes a company project that way! Or invest in a wind/solar farm. As well as the usual common sense stuff, if you're in a semi-large building see what you can do to push geo-thermal retrofits at the next upgrade for heating/cooling.
Cars/trucks/etc, not much a do. Skirting for fleet trucks however will reduce drag, and increase fuel efficiency. Cars, if it's a short trip 2km walk/ride a bike unless it's important/heavy to carry. Or unless the car has 2 or more passengers.
I have to agree, any contract that's so convoluted that requires someone with a law degree or degree in contract law to understand isn't meant for the general public.
While I can understand a fair bit in contracts, most these days are so out of it that I'm wondering how long before they're no longer binding because the consumer can not understand them. Not even counting that the fine print is so small that the average person can't read them without a magnifying glass.
You don't think that a TV episode (22 to 44 minutes) is at least twice as expensive to produce as a song (about four minutes)?
People pay what they feel is the value of something. If they can get it OTA, it costs them nothing. If they get it by cable it probably costs them $0.25-$1.25(reasonably speaking). Larger market, more viewership, more income, so on and so forth.
Since advertising is where they make their money, they can slap in whatever ads they want and make more money and everyone is happy.
Very possible that it got enough public traction and that's exactly what happened. Now they're hoping it'll quietly slip under the radar, which it'll probably do.
I distrust lawyers, and I don't trust TV shows or their hosts. So is it fair to be at odds with the entire thing still? Yep. Is it more fair to believe that security through obscurity is fair? Probably.
Chances are they have, and avoid it for a good reason. The problem is even small traces of it can cause Berylliosis which is really a bad thing to get and can end up with a slow painful death in the end.
So if researchers can detect these things with apparent reliability in their process, why can't ISPs detect them the same way and cut the bastards off?
ISP's can and do.
The only real question is what's the ISP's policy on zombie'd machines and their reaction to them on their network? Some ignore them, others throttle, some kill them off the network.
An example from my ISP:
We have reason to believe that a computer connected through your Rogers Cable Modem has been infected by virus. The amount of traffic and traffic patterns being generated are consistent with a Trojan Virus.
Typically, these types of viruses do not affect the performance of your computer and instead carry out attacks and malicious activities behind the scenes, without your knowledge. This type of network activity has the potential to negatively impact the overall service. For your reference, we have included a technical summary of the activity for your reference at the bottom of this e-mail message.
To protect your computer and to safeguard other customers on the Rogers Yahoo! Hi-Speed Internet network, we urge you to remove the virus as quickly as possible. This can be done by using an updated Anti-Virus program to scan all the computers connected to your cable modem and choosing to remove the viruses.
Here is how to remove a virus from your computer:
If you have Anti-Virus software installed on your computer: 1. Ensure that your software has been updated to include information on the most recent virus threats (this can typically be done by using your software's update feature). 2. Using your updated Anti-Virus software, run a full virus scan to determine if your computer has been infected. 3. You software should detect the virus (if it is present) and offer to clean or remove it from your computer. Follow the on-screen instructions to do so.
If you DO NOT have Anti-Virus software installed on your computer: Rogers Yahoo! Provides an Anti-Virus application as part of our "Rogers Yahoo! Online Protection Software" Free to our subscribers. For more information or to download this software please follow the URL below: Âonlineprotection.yahoo.com/rogers/
If you are unable to remove the virus within 48 hours, we will have to take additional steps to protect other customers and the Rogers Yahoo! Hi-Speed Internet network including temporary service deactivation. Should this occur, we can reactivate your connection once the virus has been removed by calling into our call center.
If the network activity below is not the result of a Virus, we ask that you reconfigure any programs or hardware which is generating the network activity detailed below to reduce the amount of traffic or redirect it to another destination.
High volumes of MX request with a high volume of Error responses usually indicate a Worm, Virus, or Spam Bot infection. These viruses will usually look for anything that looks like an email address and attempt to find a Mail server for anything that comes after the '@' sign. This results in a high number of MX lookups and error responses.
Additional Resources: - Learn more about the e-mail Anti-Virus tools provided with your service - Learn more about Rogers Yahoo! SpamGuard:
Copies of our EUA and AUP are available at:
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Rogers EUA Management Team
Sincerely,
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IP Add, MX/Unknown Queries, Errors 99.XXX.XXX.XXX, 415, 36
Date Time,Src,Query,Query type 2008-04-15 06:00:04.35154,THIS WAS AN IP,aaanebraska.com.,Internet MX ? 2008-04-15 06:00:05.55534,THIS WAS AN IP,aim.com.,Internet MX ? 2008-04-15 06:00:06.23935,THIS WAS AN IP,altanainc.com.,Internet MX ? 2008-04-15 06:00:06.60587,THIS WAS AN IP,aol.com.,Internet MX ? 2008-04-15 06:00:07.66938,T
Considering how badly some people deal with women up here? It's not a bad plan. Especially the number of times that I've had the nice old lady, grandmother, cousin, GF, get the run around by a various company until you act as the S/O, brother, etc, because they have a pair of ovaries instead of a pair of balls. This isn't a all companies are bad, rah-rah burn them down. It sure makes me wonder if they want their business still, but then I remember...that in most cases they're the only business in town.
And it happens in nearly every business day in day out. From car shops, computer stores, ISP's to your utilities and right down to basic services. And it shouldn't.
I've considered it, the only thing that's holding me at the moment is the absolute poor quality of the copper I have in my area. Looking at early/mid ~2009 before there is any solid upgrades and we even get FTTN here.
I do agree with their Net.nut stance, it's pretty good and their caps are good depending on what you want. I've been reading up mostly on their forum on DSLR.com as well, mostly good stuff. But all information is good imo, and if I had mod points I'd have tossed one to you and posted AC.
You get 130GB, and I get 60GB and I'm in Canada on Rogers. I'm by and far crankier about it, I can hit it without even trying with three other people in the house.
True, after the war the Soviets formed the Stasi to do the same in East Germany. 1:7 is a pretty good ratio if you're trying to keep tabs on your citizens. That's not even counting the number of citizens who reported on their friends, neighbors, or significant others.
>In this modern age, having less than a hundred thousand indicates that nobody really cares.
Canada has a smaller population then the state of California.
Try putting two and two together and see how 90,000 comes together. 200 people can enact policy change in Canada.
Sadly, most people don't seem to get that there are very 'large' countries that have very small populations. I realize this is a large concept to grasp but policies work different in other parts of the world.
Sadly it's not anti-China, it's the current reality of the Chinese government to it's own citizens. Any place where they haven't removed a neighborhood for complete development yet(read re-commercialization gets a wall). That is, one vision of their world imposed. The old world view is obsolete along with the citizens who are below the poverty line; Thus an eyesore and must be purged to further the idea that they've done a great job of cleaning everything up.
These types of people are an embarrassment to the eyes of the government and should just go away.
This is happening in many area's of Beijing, they're not relocating they're leaving the people to fend for themselves. And these are people who've lived in the same area for 3-5 or more generations, and are in many cases CCP hardliners.
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200416/000020041604A0544787.php but I'm still trying to figure out how it purifies the air, rather then cleaning the road surface. In the Japanese case, the material was applied into building panels which made them self-cleaning, with minimal discoloration after several years.
Maybe someone will be willing to explain it, otherwise the title/article are just misleading.
I'd have to agree, I've set up some friends wireless and wired. Junk, crap, more crap, intermittent crap, even 30ft away. Most people see 'cheap router' and buy it. Or they get one from their ISP for free with a new install, and that thing isn't even worth the plastic it's made out of.
The router I have is one of the older Netgear RP614's(v2), I've rebooted it once in the last two years after a lightening strike knocked my cable modem off and messed up the resync. I think I paid $45 for it back then, it's been extremely reliable for me. I suppose I should be happy with that.
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Yet you missed the point, it doesn't have to do with crime rates. It has to do with banning of said items in the public for whatever reason, be it guns, knives or *insert generic blunt object*.
Much like the poster below you.
We have knives.
Well yes and no. See you used to have guns too, but those are gone. Now that people are committing crimes with knives, they're banning knives, but crime rates are still going up. I suppose years of terrorism from Ireland can do things like that to people, but still no excuse. Perhaps some things to watch from this. But perchance, lets say the knife issue continues and such and the criminals who pay heed to no law go onto screwdrivers, or baseball bats? Will there be a ban on those? Maybe Cricket bats? I'm sure you can see where this will run.
You've got enough camera's to make a people cry but it doesn't seem to be working to reduce crime, you have parents who are taking background checks and the same for volunteers for every conceivable activity. And there's nothing like having the odd issue of a parent drop by saying they've had one of these checks but...still not even knowing their name.
I personally feel that far too many people suffer from the government is always right, the media is reporting the truth and it's lost focus with the local stories, blowing larger national stories out of touch; Allowing fear to go rampant inside the UK and power hungry politicians are using this to secure their own little place in history rather then doing the right thing.
It's sad to see the UK fall from what it once was, and I live in a country that was founded under the commonwealth. I can see the same trends here, and people are generally either too apathetic or believe that government knows best. Especially those of us that live under common law.
That's the actual article, it's protecting society through ignorance.
Yes, I'm sure. If they don't discriminate in making people criminals (so if everyone is an criminal now), these laws are very fair. Is it more funny for you now?
Absolutely, then again you just pointed out the problem with unfair and unjust laws.
If they make criminals of EVERYONE, then they ARE fair.
Are you sure? I'm sure there's plenty of people on /. that can name several laws that are unfair and make criminals of people but doing something is considered a social norm. To boil it down simply, any law that makes large segments of the population a criminal should be looked at objectively by both society, the judicial and the legislative branch.
Cicero said that excessive law is no law.(To paraphrase) The point on this when a society makes laws that criminalize the 'norm' of behavior, has legislation become excessive?
If by then, you accept all laws to be fair regardless of how excessive they are. This is an example in the story. How much further are you willing to go?
No?
Unfair laws make criminals of everyone.
One of these days we'll actually be able to head to a single website to see the same things that are broadcast in both countries at the same time.
One day...
Is everyone buying into mumbo-jumbo and super-hype still? Yes I'm that cynical.
I suppose if you need to have feel good projects, tell them to go plant a forest and sell it later for profit, then plant a new one. On top of that they can sell carbon credits for money. It becomes a company project that way! Or invest in a wind/solar farm. As well as the usual common sense stuff, if you're in a semi-large building see what you can do to push geo-thermal retrofits at the next upgrade for heating/cooling.
Cars/trucks/etc, not much a do. Skirting for fleet trucks however will reduce drag, and increase fuel efficiency. Cars, if it's a short trip 2km walk/ride a bike unless it's important/heavy to carry. Or unless the car has 2 or more passengers.
I have to agree, any contract that's so convoluted that requires someone with a law degree or degree in contract law to understand isn't meant for the general public.
While I can understand a fair bit in contracts, most these days are so out of it that I'm wondering how long before they're no longer binding because the consumer can not understand them. Not even counting that the fine print is so small that the average person can't read them without a magnifying glass.
The irony in that is so thick I can taste it.
You don't think that a TV episode (22 to 44 minutes) is at least twice as expensive to produce as a song (about four minutes)?
People pay what they feel is the value of something. If they can get it OTA, it costs them nothing. If they get it by cable it probably costs them $0.25-$1.25(reasonably speaking). Larger market, more viewership, more income, so on and so forth.
Since advertising is where they make their money, they can slap in whatever ads they want and make more money and everyone is happy.
Bypassing 15 pages of annoying registration to read a newspaper online is 'hacking'? Who knew.
Very possible that it got enough public traction and that's exactly what happened. Now they're hoping it'll quietly slip under the radar, which it'll probably do.
I distrust lawyers, and I don't trust TV shows or their hosts. So is it fair to be at odds with the entire thing still? Yep. Is it more fair to believe that security through obscurity is fair? Probably.
Chances are they have, and avoid it for a good reason. The problem is even small traces of it can cause Berylliosis which is really a bad thing to get and can end up with a slow painful death in the end.
So if researchers can detect these things with apparent reliability in their process, why can't ISPs detect them the same way and cut the bastards off?
ISP's can and do.
The only real question is what's the ISP's policy on zombie'd machines and their reaction to them on their network? Some ignore them, others throttle, some kill them off the network.
An example from my ISP:
We have reason to believe that a computer connected through your Rogers Cable Modem has been infected by virus. The amount of traffic and traffic patterns being generated are consistent with a Trojan Virus.
Typically, these types of viruses do not affect the performance of your computer and instead carry out attacks and malicious activities behind the scenes, without your knowledge. This type of network activity has the potential to negatively impact the overall service. For your reference, we have included a technical summary of the activity for your reference at the bottom of this e-mail message.
To protect your computer and to safeguard other customers on the Rogers Yahoo! Hi-Speed Internet network, we urge you to remove the virus as quickly as possible. This can be done by using an updated Anti-Virus program to scan all the computers connected to your cable modem and choosing to remove the viruses.
Here is how to remove a virus from your computer:
If you have Anti-Virus software installed on your computer:
1. Ensure that your software has been updated to include information on the most recent virus threats (this can typically be done by using your software's update feature).
2. Using your updated Anti-Virus software, run a full virus scan to determine if your computer has been infected.
3. You software should detect the virus (if it is present) and offer to clean or remove it from your computer. Follow the on-screen instructions to do so.
If you DO NOT have Anti-Virus software installed on your computer:
Rogers Yahoo! Provides an Anti-Virus application as part of our "Rogers Yahoo! Online Protection Software" Free to our subscribers. For more information or to download this software please follow the URL below:
Âonlineprotection.yahoo.com/rogers/
If you are unable to remove the virus within 48 hours, we will have to take additional steps to protect other customers and the Rogers Yahoo! Hi-Speed Internet network including temporary service deactivation. Should this occur, we can reactivate your connection once the virus has been removed by calling into our call center.
If the network activity below is not the result of a Virus, we ask that you reconfigure any programs or hardware which is generating the network activity detailed below to reduce the amount of traffic or redirect it to another destination.
High volumes of MX request with a high volume of Error responses usually indicate a Worm, Virus, or Spam Bot infection. These viruses will usually look for anything that looks like an email address and attempt to find a Mail server for anything that comes after the '@' sign. This results in a high number of MX lookups and error responses.
Additional Resources:
- Learn more about the e-mail Anti-Virus tools provided with your service
- Learn more about Rogers Yahoo! SpamGuard:
Copies of our EUA and AUP are available at:
Âna.edit.client.yahoo.com/rogers/ÂÂÂ.intl=ca
Rogers EUA Management Team
Sincerely,
EUA Management Team
Rogers Yahoo Hi-Speed Internet
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IP Add, MX/Unknown Queries, Errors
99.XXX.XXX.XXX, 415, 36
Date Time,Src,Query,Query type
2008-04-15 06:00:04.35154,THIS WAS AN IP,aaanebraska.com.,Internet MX ?
2008-04-15 06:00:05.55534,THIS WAS AN IP,aim.com.,Internet MX ?
2008-04-15 06:00:06.23935,THIS WAS AN IP,altanainc.com.,Internet MX ?
2008-04-15 06:00:06.60587,THIS WAS AN IP,aol.com.,Internet MX ?
2008-04-15 06:00:07.66938,T
Considering how badly some people deal with women up here? It's not a bad plan. Especially the number of times that I've had the nice old lady, grandmother, cousin, GF, get the run around by a various company until you act as the S/O, brother, etc, because they have a pair of ovaries instead of a pair of balls. This isn't a all companies are bad, rah-rah burn them down. It sure makes me wonder if they want their business still, but then I remember...that in most cases they're the only business in town.
And it happens in nearly every business day in day out. From car shops, computer stores, ISP's to your utilities and right down to basic services. And it shouldn't.
I've considered it, the only thing that's holding me at the moment is the absolute poor quality of the copper I have in my area. Looking at early/mid ~2009 before there is any solid upgrades and we even get FTTN here.
I do agree with their Net.nut stance, it's pretty good and their caps are good depending on what you want. I've been reading up mostly on their forum on DSLR.com as well, mostly good stuff. But all information is good imo, and if I had mod points I'd have tossed one to you and posted AC.
You get 130GB, and I get 60GB and I'm in Canada on Rogers. I'm by and far crankier about it, I can hit it without even trying with three other people in the house.
Looking at Teksavvy myself.
True, after the war the Soviets formed the Stasi to do the same in East Germany. 1:7 is a pretty good ratio if you're trying to keep tabs on your citizens. That's not even counting the number of citizens who reported on their friends, neighbors, or significant others.
Game publishers haven't figured this out yet. Nothing like a 3 forever use no revoke, DRM key.
>In this modern age, having less than a hundred thousand indicates that nobody really cares.
Canada has a smaller population then the state of California.
Try putting two and two together and see how 90,000 comes together. 200 people can enact policy change in Canada.
Sadly, most people don't seem to get that there are very 'large' countries that have very small populations. I realize this is a large concept to grasp but policies work different in other parts of the world.
Sadly it's not anti-China, it's the current reality of the Chinese government to it's own citizens. Any place where they haven't removed a neighborhood for complete development yet(read re-commercialization gets a wall). That is, one vision of their world imposed. The old world view is obsolete along with the citizens who are below the poverty line; Thus an eyesore and must be purged to further the idea that they've done a great job of cleaning everything up.
These types of people are an embarrassment to the eyes of the government and should just go away.
This is happening in many area's of Beijing, they're not relocating they're leaving the people to fend for themselves. And these are people who've lived in the same area for 3-5 or more generations, and are in many cases CCP hardliners.
I'm wondering if it's based off this:
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200416/000020041604A0544787.php but I'm still trying to figure out how it purifies the air, rather then cleaning the road surface. In the Japanese case, the material was applied into building panels which made them self-cleaning, with minimal discoloration after several years.
Maybe someone will be willing to explain it, otherwise the title/article are just misleading.
The TTC(Toronto) was recently looking at this same system as well.
I'd have to agree, I've set up some friends wireless and wired. Junk, crap, more crap, intermittent crap, even 30ft away. Most people see 'cheap router' and buy it. Or they get one from their ISP for free with a new install, and that thing isn't even worth the plastic it's made out of.
The router I have is one of the older Netgear RP614's(v2), I've rebooted it once in the last two years after a lightening strike knocked my cable modem off and messed up the resync. I think I paid $45 for it back then, it's been extremely reliable for me. I suppose I should be happy with that.