You mean those numbers from the BBC? Well you enjoy that.
So tell me what parts of "death for apostates" "you can rape women" "women are valued less then men" "death for homosexuals" "ban on gay marriage" etc, etc, etc. Is compatible with western culture? Because large segments, even 2nd and 3rd generation kids strongly believe in those ideas, some even more so then their parents do.
No, you know what would be reassuring? That if someone comes to the west they actually want to integrate. You know, like my parents did. One half which was from west germany, and the other half from japan. Who dumped their old world beliefs when they came here, banned speaking anything but english at home and embraced the new culture.
He was reported on multiple occasions. Those people don't seem to have been afraid.
But you can't read. Keep going.
By the way, what is that Rotterdam bullshit you just made up? Got any shitty blogs to cite for it?
Did you try that link? You know the one that goes to the royal inquiry, that openly states that. Or are you going to claim that the royal inquiry is a shitty blog because it doesn't fit your agenda.
I'm blind to you saying the problem that racists are the real victims here? No - I can see exactly what shit you are up to by pushing this line.
Apparently you are, not only that you're an idiot to boot. The "line that I'm pushing" is people are afraid of doing something and being labeled racist for doing it.
To make it very simple for you: They're willing to look the other way because of fear, and they're willing to look so hard in the other direction that people are dying because of it.
How in your parallel universe would you expect a bunch of guys with knives and a van supposed to be stopped sooner? Are we to report all brown-looking people in vehicles? There are about 1 million 'muslim looking' people living in London.
Bet in a few days we'll see that they were known to police, had multiple times they were picked up on the radar and they did nothing. Just like with the manchester suicide bomber.
There are 2.7 million muslims living in the UK, and your advocating treating them all with suspicion. They are in the same boat as the rest of us, trying to get on with their lives while a few crazies make everything worse.
You mean 50% of which are against gay marriage. ~25% believe that Sharia law is the only law, and roughly the same number believes that the UK should be forcibly converted to it? ~40% believe that a women should obey her husband? Haven't even touched on the believes homosexuals should be killed outright, that religious police are okay, that suicide attacks are fine and they wouldn't report someone who knew that they were about to launch one. All of which hover between 30-45% too. Or any of the other things which are fundamentally against core parts of western. Like the 20% that believe a women is worth less then a man, or the 35% believe a women's place is in the home.
Fuck you very much and you stereotyped, ill-informed crap.
Keep burying your head in the sand. Funny how it's always those similar results though isn't it? You see the same numbers in Canada, and in the US, and in France, and Sweden... Maybe it's time for you to grow up and realize that the dream of multiculturalism only works when a society is actually compatible.
So trying the "I am not doing X you are doing X" playground argument on for size now?
Considering you haven't said anything to dispute my points so far, it seems more likely you actually are projecting because this struck far too close to home.
Which is exactly what the inquiries have said over and over and over again as well. Or did you miss the part where I said people were afraid of being labeled racist? You think that something like the Trojan horse scandal or Rotherham didn't happen because no-one called the tip lines? No it's because people were afraid of being labeled racist. And those people were in the police and security services.
I made a general statement as people, not the agencies themselves. The agencies might have the info, it's again the people being afraid of using it because of rampant political correctness.
Really? Masses of quivering weakings like yourself? I don't think so.
You seem to be projecting. Either that or you can't read, not sure.
Most people are nowhere near as pathetic as you think they are. Perhaps you should consider being less a pathetic seeker of blame yourself.
So glad you're blind as to the exact reasons of what's going on here. Perhaps you should go back and read those links. Let me know when you get to the part where police and security agencies directly ignored the tips. Where people directly ignored the warning signs because they were afraid. It doesn't get much more black and white then that, that's the face of political correctness gone amok.
Most people are not that sort of quivering weakling fearing being called names.
And yet that's the exact reason why those things happened. But you'd best realize that most people actually are afraid. That's one of the primary findings of the rotherham case. That's also one of the findings of the san babernandio attack, and pulse. And they're afraid of losing their job if they speak up. Of being attacked by a lynch mob on twitter for saying something. Of friends and family doing the same. I'll bet $20 that it was the exact same thing this time too. Or it could simply be the outright refusal of muslims inside the community deciding to ignore it, that one happens quite often too. Sometimes the local mosque is complicit to boot, which was the case of the parliament hill shooter here in Canada.
Didn't read the report or look at the background info huh? That was a private medical provider. It's exactly the same thing that happened in the US, Japan, and several other countries.
You know what the difference between today and the 1980's were? That the attack in San Bernardino and Pulse Nightclub both could have been stopped. What happened? Oh that's right, people were afraid to call police/terrorist tiplines/etc for fear of being labeled "racist" because muslim. Huh let's look in the UK, and all those previous terrorist attacks with the same reason that nobody called tiplines. And how about more in the UK, with those girls raped and being sold as sex slaves(just a fyi it's happening in the US too). And the muslims trying to take over schools to turn them into extremist breeding grounds(see trojan horse scandal). Well what do you know? In those dozens of cases it was all the same thing too.
I think we've got a problem. You know what it is? People are too politically correct and afraid of being labeled racist/islamophobe/etc. So afraid that they'll turn a blind eye to people preparing to carry out a terrorist attack. Until that changes this isn't going to change either. We could, avoid the whole "implement internet agenda thing." The answer is in this paragraph. And you know as well as I do that the left has a very long history the last decade of going after people for daring to say "that muslim looks like they're going to blow people up." After all, that's what happened in Rotterdam and why 1000+ girls were raped and used as sex toys after all....for over a decade.
That implies that those companies are actually paying taxes, the problem is many multinationals aren't paying their share of taxes and go very long and hard to use loopholes in tax laws to avoid paying them. Long-term offsets against losses I can get, deferments of taxes in bad years is also fine. But when you're making money hand over fist like NBCUniversal, GE, Google, Apple or Amazon is and you're not paying anything or next to nothing.
If a person can abuse the system, then an organization will too. And you can bet your ass that these companies would find a way to not pay taxes.
So far your entire premise is that money is going to come from nothing when the premise of the agreement is to use public funds, while trying to say that it's not really going to increase taxes. Well ask yourself this. Where is that money that's going from? Easy it's hospitals, LT care, policing, welfare, social assistance, and so on. Where's the shortfall going to be made up from? More taxes. And it's not going to likely be corporate taxes, it's going to be from income/sales/etc taxes.
Well they sure go out of their way to manufacture news. And do so quite often, which makes me wonder how come people in the US don't label them at the same or worse level then Fox. You can only print so many stories about muh-russians hacking electrical grids/xyz consipracy/running with basic things that are easily debunked/and things that didn't happen.
This whole "tax the fuck out of your people" invention is pure FUD, as anyone who takes the time to look for themselves can see. It's been literally made up to frighten people away from even considering the consequences of inaction.
Really? You ever bother to read a budget or wonder where that $500M, $1B, $5B drops into those buckets come from? I'll give you a hint, it's not from printing money. In other words you're trying to split hairs because you don't understand political speak. But it comes right down to one thing: "Tax the fuck out of your people." And if you don't think it is? You need to go look up the amount of money that's being thrown at things like this when there are pressing problems in said countries own backyards.
You mean besides sections 9(1), 9(3), 9(8), (9)? You know the parts where it basically says "use public money" aka tax the fuck out of your people and shovel it into undeveloped countries? Kinda like what happens here in Canada when we give $400m away for "climate development" with those same regulatory oversights that exist now. When there's 150k-250k homeless here in Canada, serious problems with healthcare, decaying infrastructure, and people who can't afford the medications to keep them alive.
Most countries anyone under the age of 18 is considered a minor. At the ages between 12-15/16 there may be emancipation options for that minor if they can prove it to the court. On top of that there's a variety of other things that apply as well including privacy, search warrant coverages, etc. Some countries if you file a warrant on a minor, it only directly applies to their room not the house in full. You need a separate warrant for that. Privacy laws get a bit weird, they have privacy rights those laws are a blanket in most cases. But in nearly all countries a parent's rights supersede those of a child.
On top of that most laws have a revert of "next of kin" clause. Meaning that the person who they were in care of becomes the person of authority to take care of their possessions/other issues. What the court just ruled though, is that if you're in the care of another person even as a legal guardian, they don't have to do anything now.
You could do what we do here in Canada. We just take the entire mountain apart, works well and you get the RE's and other minerals and metals to boot. Usually iron and titanium, sometimes bauxite and uranium. Then when we're all done we turn the lowland area into a town.
Considering that seems to be the basis of all these agreements. Tax the piss out of the western world, and ignore what's going on in everyone else's, while watching them pay lip service and continue with business as normal. Yeah, I can see why the US would want to pull out. It's the same reason why the Liberals in Ontario are under a voter revolt for the same policies.
Yeah that's not true at all. Extracting coal is cheap, very cheap. It's the regulations that have caused coal mining to become expensive and push people out of that work. Let me give you an example. Under the Obama administration, they tightened regulations so much that coal mines in Canada were being shut down because markets dried up. Now under Trump without those regulations, those mines are now re-opening and that's on top of the fact that they have provincial and federal government anti-coal stances in Canada.
Coal is still a profitable industry, as long as regulations don't drive the cost through the roof. Another example from Canada, in Alberta they used mainly coal for generating electricity. Lots of coal, lots of areas of the province with sparse populations far away from everyone else. This means they didn't have to place high voltage transmission lines. So they voted in the NDP and what happened? They went anti-coal, those power plants are now shutting down. They have to build new transmission lines to remote communities to keep them powered as well. The price of electricity went from $80/mo 4 years ago to $230/mo this year because of it. $160 of that $230 was transmission costs.
Canada did. That giant sucking sound wasn't north and south, it was all south. The town(now city) I grew up in is just getting back on it's feet from NAFTA sucking all the jobs to Mexico. Just like those jobs were sucked from the US to Mexico. Canada is attractive to companies in the US because input materials cost less in bulk here then the US. Our dollar is 30% generally under the greenback. But when you can pay someone in Mexico $1.10/hr vs $15-18/hr in Canada and $8-15 in the US? Those companies are picking up and going to Mexico.
Now we've got governments that don't believe blue collar work is worth anything(Liberals of Ontario). Believe that paying for "green energy" is great even though it accounts for 40-50% of your electric bill but generates less then 17% of the input. Even non-blue collar companies are looking at MI & NY in the US or QC and MB in Canada. Where they're not paying 4x the rate they would be now.
You know what always surprises me? That Clinton was an active member of the Obama administration while this was all going on and they bury their head in the sand over it while pointing their finger and going TRUMP.
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You mean those numbers from the BBC? Well you enjoy that.
So tell me what parts of "death for apostates" "you can rape women" "women are valued less then men" "death for homosexuals" "ban on gay marriage" etc, etc, etc. Is compatible with western culture? Because large segments, even 2nd and 3rd generation kids strongly believe in those ideas, some even more so then their parents do.
No, you know what would be reassuring? That if someone comes to the west they actually want to integrate. You know, like my parents did. One half which was from west germany, and the other half from japan. Who dumped their old world beliefs when they came here, banned speaking anything but english at home and embraced the new culture.
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I hope you enjoy the BBC, because that's where it comes from.
He was reported on multiple occasions. Those people don't seem to have been afraid.
But you can't read. Keep going.
By the way, what is that Rotterdam bullshit you just made up? Got any shitty blogs to cite for it?
Did you try that link? You know the one that goes to the royal inquiry, that openly states that. Or are you going to claim that the royal inquiry is a shitty blog because it doesn't fit your agenda.
I'm blind to you saying the problem that racists are the real victims here?
No - I can see exactly what shit you are up to by pushing this line.
Apparently you are, not only that you're an idiot to boot. The "line that I'm pushing" is people are afraid of doing something and being labeled racist for doing it.
To make it very simple for you: They're willing to look the other way because of fear, and they're willing to look so hard in the other direction that people are dying because of it.
How in your parallel universe would you expect a bunch of guys with knives and a van supposed to be stopped sooner? Are we to report all brown-looking people in vehicles? There are about 1 million 'muslim looking' people living in London.
Bet in a few days we'll see that they were known to police, had multiple times they were picked up on the radar and they did nothing. Just like with the manchester suicide bomber.
There are 2.7 million muslims living in the UK, and your advocating treating them all with suspicion. They are in the same boat as the rest of us, trying to get on with their lives while a few crazies make everything worse.
You mean 50% of which are against gay marriage. ~25% believe that Sharia law is the only law, and roughly the same number believes that the UK should be forcibly converted to it? ~40% believe that a women should obey her husband? Haven't even touched on the believes homosexuals should be killed outright, that religious police are okay, that suicide attacks are fine and they wouldn't report someone who knew that they were about to launch one. All of which hover between 30-45% too. Or any of the other things which are fundamentally against core parts of western. Like the 20% that believe a women is worth less then a man, or the 35% believe a women's place is in the home.
Fuck you very much and you stereotyped, ill-informed crap.
Keep burying your head in the sand. Funny how it's always those similar results though isn't it? You see the same numbers in Canada, and in the US, and in France, and Sweden... Maybe it's time for you to grow up and realize that the dream of multiculturalism only works when a society is actually compatible.
So trying the "I am not doing X you are doing X" playground argument on for size now?
Considering you haven't said anything to dispute my points so far, it seems more likely you actually are projecting because this struck far too close to home.
Which is exactly what the inquiries have said over and over and over again as well. Or did you miss the part where I said people were afraid of being labeled racist? You think that something like the Trojan horse scandal or Rotherham didn't happen because no-one called the tip lines? No it's because people were afraid of being labeled racist. And those people were in the police and security services.
I made a general statement as people, not the agencies themselves. The agencies might have the info, it's again the people being afraid of using it because of rampant political correctness.
Really? Masses of quivering weakings like yourself?
I don't think so.
You seem to be projecting. Either that or you can't read, not sure.
Most people are nowhere near as pathetic as you think they are. Perhaps you should consider being less a pathetic seeker of blame yourself.
So glad you're blind as to the exact reasons of what's going on here. Perhaps you should go back and read those links. Let me know when you get to the part where police and security agencies directly ignored the tips. Where people directly ignored the warning signs because they were afraid. It doesn't get much more black and white then that, that's the face of political correctness gone amok.
Most people are not that sort of quivering weakling fearing being called names.
And yet that's the exact reason why those things happened. But you'd best realize that most people actually are afraid. That's one of the primary findings of the rotherham case. That's also one of the findings of the san babernandio attack, and pulse. And they're afraid of losing their job if they speak up. Of being attacked by a lynch mob on twitter for saying something. Of friends and family doing the same. I'll bet $20 that it was the exact same thing this time too. Or it could simply be the outright refusal of muslims inside the community deciding to ignore it, that one happens quite often too. Sometimes the local mosque is complicit to boot, which was the case of the parliament hill shooter here in Canada.
Didn't read the report or look at the background info huh? That was a private medical provider. It's exactly the same thing that happened in the US, Japan, and several other countries.
You know what the difference between today and the 1980's were? That the attack in San Bernardino and Pulse Nightclub both could have been stopped. What happened? Oh that's right, people were afraid to call police/terrorist tiplines/etc for fear of being labeled "racist" because muslim. Huh let's look in the UK, and all those previous terrorist attacks with the same reason that nobody called tiplines. And how about more in the UK, with those girls raped and being sold as sex slaves(just a fyi it's happening in the US too). And the muslims trying to take over schools to turn them into extremist breeding grounds(see trojan horse scandal). Well what do you know? In those dozens of cases it was all the same thing too.
I think we've got a problem. You know what it is? People are too politically correct and afraid of being labeled racist/islamophobe/etc. So afraid that they'll turn a blind eye to people preparing to carry out a terrorist attack. Until that changes this isn't going to change either. We could, avoid the whole "implement internet agenda thing." The answer is in this paragraph. And you know as well as I do that the left has a very long history the last decade of going after people for daring to say "that muslim looks like they're going to blow people up." After all, that's what happened in Rotterdam and why 1000+ girls were raped and used as sex toys after all....for over a decade.
That implies that those companies are actually paying taxes, the problem is many multinationals aren't paying their share of taxes and go very long and hard to use loopholes in tax laws to avoid paying them. Long-term offsets against losses I can get, deferments of taxes in bad years is also fine. But when you're making money hand over fist like NBCUniversal, GE, Google, Apple or Amazon is and you're not paying anything or next to nothing.
If a person can abuse the system, then an organization will too. And you can bet your ass that these companies would find a way to not pay taxes.
So far your entire premise is that money is going to come from nothing when the premise of the agreement is to use public funds, while trying to say that it's not really going to increase taxes. Well ask yourself this. Where is that money that's going from? Easy it's hospitals, LT care, policing, welfare, social assistance, and so on. Where's the shortfall going to be made up from? More taxes. And it's not going to likely be corporate taxes, it's going to be from income/sales/etc taxes.
Donated blood is tested for hepatitis, along with many other diseases.
Well it sure worked well up here in Canada with the thousands of people who got tainted blood with those testing regimens existing. Except of course the blood services got lazy and didn't do their job, that possibly can't happen again.
Well they sure go out of their way to manufacture news. And do so quite often, which makes me wonder how come people in the US don't label them at the same or worse level then Fox. You can only print so many stories about muh-russians hacking electrical grids/xyz consipracy/running with basic things that are easily debunked/and things that didn't happen.
This whole "tax the fuck out of your people" invention is pure FUD, as anyone who takes the time to look for themselves can see. It's been literally made up to frighten people away from even considering the consequences of inaction.
Really? You ever bother to read a budget or wonder where that $500M, $1B, $5B drops into those buckets come from? I'll give you a hint, it's not from printing money. In other words you're trying to split hairs because you don't understand political speak. But it comes right down to one thing: "Tax the fuck out of your people." And if you don't think it is? You need to go look up the amount of money that's being thrown at things like this when there are pressing problems in said countries own backyards.
You mean besides sections 9(1), 9(3), 9(8), (9)? You know the parts where it basically says "use public money" aka tax the fuck out of your people and shovel it into undeveloped countries? Kinda like what happens here in Canada when we give $400m away for "climate development" with those same regulatory oversights that exist now. When there's 150k-250k homeless here in Canada, serious problems with healthcare, decaying infrastructure, and people who can't afford the medications to keep them alive.
Most countries anyone under the age of 18 is considered a minor. At the ages between 12-15/16 there may be emancipation options for that minor if they can prove it to the court. On top of that there's a variety of other things that apply as well including privacy, search warrant coverages, etc. Some countries if you file a warrant on a minor, it only directly applies to their room not the house in full. You need a separate warrant for that. Privacy laws get a bit weird, they have privacy rights those laws are a blanket in most cases. But in nearly all countries a parent's rights supersede those of a child.
On top of that most laws have a revert of "next of kin" clause. Meaning that the person who they were in care of becomes the person of authority to take care of their possessions/other issues. What the court just ruled though, is that if you're in the care of another person even as a legal guardian, they don't have to do anything now.
You could do what we do here in Canada. We just take the entire mountain apart, works well and you get the RE's and other minerals and metals to boot. Usually iron and titanium, sometimes bauxite and uranium. Then when we're all done we turn the lowland area into a town.
Considering that seems to be the basis of all these agreements. Tax the piss out of the western world, and ignore what's going on in everyone else's, while watching them pay lip service and continue with business as normal. Yeah, I can see why the US would want to pull out. It's the same reason why the Liberals in Ontario are under a voter revolt for the same policies.
Yeah that's not true at all. Extracting coal is cheap, very cheap. It's the regulations that have caused coal mining to become expensive and push people out of that work. Let me give you an example. Under the Obama administration, they tightened regulations so much that coal mines in Canada were being shut down because markets dried up. Now under Trump without those regulations, those mines are now re-opening and that's on top of the fact that they have provincial and federal government anti-coal stances in Canada.
Coal is still a profitable industry, as long as regulations don't drive the cost through the roof. Another example from Canada, in Alberta they used mainly coal for generating electricity. Lots of coal, lots of areas of the province with sparse populations far away from everyone else. This means they didn't have to place high voltage transmission lines. So they voted in the NDP and what happened? They went anti-coal, those power plants are now shutting down. They have to build new transmission lines to remote communities to keep them powered as well. The price of electricity went from $80/mo 4 years ago to $230/mo this year because of it. $160 of that $230 was transmission costs.
Canada did. That giant sucking sound wasn't north and south, it was all south. The town(now city) I grew up in is just getting back on it's feet from NAFTA sucking all the jobs to Mexico. Just like those jobs were sucked from the US to Mexico. Canada is attractive to companies in the US because input materials cost less in bulk here then the US. Our dollar is 30% generally under the greenback. But when you can pay someone in Mexico $1.10/hr vs $15-18/hr in Canada and $8-15 in the US? Those companies are picking up and going to Mexico.
Now we've got governments that don't believe blue collar work is worth anything(Liberals of Ontario). Believe that paying for "green energy" is great even though it accounts for 40-50% of your electric bill but generates less then 17% of the input. Even non-blue collar companies are looking at MI & NY in the US or QC and MB in Canada. Where they're not paying 4x the rate they would be now.
Man you kids had it easy. When I was in school, you couldn't use a calculator at all. I graduated from HS in 1995.
You know what always surprises me? That Clinton was an active member of the Obama administration while this was all going on and they bury their head in the sand over it while pointing their finger and going TRUMP.
And you missed a whole bunch...
Just a FYI that "standard debt" was paid off in 2015, electricity prices are still going up.