I had never heard of Geronimo before, so I did the lemming thing and clicked on the link in the article and got the message in the subject. Now I'm not sure about you, but is it telling me that I should revisit their website after I feel relieved by urinating?
Can you imagine how you would feel if your country was taken over by a people that shoot your friends and relations for the fun of it?
I'd feel pretty ticked off, and if I was the President of said country, I'd be sending in the army to take care of it. Given the terrain and the rapid response required, they'd probably use gunships.
Strange, this sounds vaguely familiar.
I am not contending that this is right or justifiable but until the idiots in charge stop killing, the killing will continue. Arseholes like you say that it is OK for the Israelis to kill the Arabs because the Arabs kill innocent Israelis and the Arabs say that it is OK to kill the Israelis because the Israelis kill innocent Arabs.
Remember that there are idiots in charge on both sides; and not everyone who doesn't agree 100% with what you believe is an arsehole.
It is OK for Israel to protect their sovereignty. Every country has the right (and, I would say, the responsibility) to protect its citizens from harm - be it from formal declared war with another nation or terrorist attacks from disgruntled special interest groups. There does exist international laws that prevent genocide, and we've seen what happens in recent times when certain countries choose to flaunt those laws (former jugoslavia, iraq, iraq again, somalia, solomon islands, PNG,...). Why do Palestinians not recieve the same assistance? I'd argue it is because the majority of the countries able to help if they were truly oppressed are presented with a picture of a nation of terrorists who kill indiscriminately and then jump up and down and have a good sook whenever Israel decide to use military force to protect their sovereignty. Nobody has respect for terrorists, and nobody has respect for cry-babies who like to deal out death and destruction but can't take it back.
FYI I don't think there's a single "western" country that honestly believes Israel is innocent and this situation is all the fault of Arabs. However part of the responsibility of expecting sovereignty over your own territory is accepting that other nations have that same right over theirs. I think the best solution for this problem is to split, much like how we have India and Pakistan today. But you will never come to that kind of agreement by constantly engaging in eye-for-eye physical violence. Both sides need to keep a check on their extremists, because that's who is continuing (and profiting from) the bloodshed.
The slashdot posting should be modded -1, flamebait. The actual quote from Szulik is, "I would say that for the consumer market place, Windows probably continues to be the right product line," he said.
Likewise Szulik's own comment should be modded -1, flamebait/Troll.
I don't see Windows 2003 Server (or Workstation, or XP, etc) running on consumer devices like Playstation 2, XBox, mobile phones, or PDAs. So how he gets off saying this trash is beyond me. All it proves to me is just how pro-Microsoft Redhat really are.
This whole "Is Linux ready for the desktop?" debate grows older, tireder, and more irrelevant every day (and has for many years) and the last we need is people in positions of authority coming out with garbage like this. Particularly when their company has just caused consumer confusion by rebranding their well-known product line (prompting media articles about it being dead).
From what I read on the Nvu site, it's not just a HTML editor, but something that will perform content management across an entire site. Now maybe I'm reading too much into that marketing blurb, but it sounds like its trying to compete (albeit in a small way) with Zope.
...which brings up the point: Why shouldn't Redhat just use the already existant Debian community and distro as the "Fedora Core"?
Because Debian is better, much much much better, and Redhat have a solid history of never wanting to integrate anything that's better into their distribution. In fact, their goals are apparently to make their system more like Microsoft Windows. So rather than going forwards, they're going backwards... and they make things worse by forcing everyone else to adopt their standards like the LSB and the FHS as the official Linux standards.
That being said, Fedora sounds like a step in the right direction, and as the proverb goes, the journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.
Fedora seems like a duplication of effort: something already accomplished by Debian.
Well, you could say the same for any Linux distribution - you could argue Debian is just a duplication of the efforts of SLS or Yggdrasil;-) The one thing I will say about Fedora is at least they appear to be wanting to go down the right path - finally taking community input - and I don't particularly care if they roll that into RHEE and make gazillions of dollars from it, Redhat do sponsor a lot of nice (and some may argue "important", but I'll be as humble as they are) Linux developers and the GPL offers some peace of mind to the community developing Fedora.
The problem with having a sole distribution is that you trample all over progress in the name of stability and compatibility. At some stage no-one will be game to try something new (for example, replace the default desktop environment with NewSnazzyThing) because of what will amount to corporate pressure. Corporations are, for the most part, afraid of change. Creating a whole new distribution breathes life into the whole community by giving talented and creative folks freedom to try out new things, do things a bit differently, and find out what does and doesn't work, without affecting something important. You could argue a "unstable" or "development" branch could also permit that but I'll nip that in the bud by putting forward that those branches need time to stabilise therefore you're still boxed in, limited in what you can try out, particularly if it involves core functionality.
This is kinda like Zope except you can't do anything useful with it, like actually serve the generated site. Though I guess at some high level it could serve as an alternative user interface.
Why does everybody always point the finger at Office?
Because Microsoft Office is the 6 foot, 400 pound, hairy, toothless grin, bald gorilla in the patched leather armour that keeps the prisoners in Microsoft's lock-in.
It's a sad fact of our current society that most businesses require 100% compatibility with Microsoft Office, and Microsoft have been smart enough to implement it with enough flaws that 100% compatibility is not desirable, let alone achieveable.
The target for the desktop market is not the underlying OS, its the applications on top of it. Educate everyone you know that OpenOffice (or whatever) is a viable alternative using every piece of advocacy you can think of (platform compatibility, license costs, license freedoms, success stories, etc). Once you've jumped these barrels and knocked the gorilla off, you can climb to the higher levels of the underlying OS and so forth. Donkey Kong is not invincible, neither is Microsoft (or any other vendor enjoying a lock-in monopoly)
It's -trivially- easy to block port 25 and force all your customers to use the isp's SMTP servers. This makes it much easier to identify spammers, and stops many email viruses from spreading.
This also makes it trivially easy for spammers to dial up to such an ISP, dump all their spam on them, bugger off and let the ISP's mail server handle all the load of both sending the spam, and dealing with any retributions from the internet (tarpitting, etc).
There's a much better solution people always overlook - law. In most countries things like fraud and harassment are illegal. We just need more cases where people are willing to track down spammers and deal with them according to our existing laws.
Ever since VeriSlime wildcarded the.com and.net domains, the amount of spam I received increased fifty-fold. I thought it was a shame this article didn't link the two events together.
Since we have to pay through the teeth for bandwidth here in.au it'd be great if VeriSlime would recompense us for this extra traffic they have caused us to pay for.
It's not like America here - there aren't a great number of aides (political staff) and they don't generally write bills - most of that kind of work is done by public servants.
Pube, Aide, whatever. The real frightening thing is that the portfolio he has control over is such a broad one that what you end up with is the arts students writing the IT policy. No offense to arts students, but come on... if anyone remembers their university days you know that these are the opposite ends of the spectrum with generally an intense loathing of one another. I met one of those directly responsible for the censorship laws - they admitted they didn't even bother researching the subject, all that mattered was getting the papers off their desk. It took all the self-control I had to avoid punching them in face a few times.
BTW Alston did something else pretty cool during the past fortnight, but buggered if I can remember what it was right now. But yeah, regardless he's still a Luddite.
Microsoft has been doing this for decades. I am not interested in returning to University to get a degree when that degree is nothing more than an MCSE. I've seen the kind of so-called computer engineers the current courses put out, and it makes me sick. Take away MS Paint^H^H^H^H^H^HVisual Basic and these people cannot create "hello world", let alone anything worthy of engineering. A tertiary qualification should be something that is challenging, giving a good grounding in current knowledge (with complete history) on the topic of the degree while also encouraging new thoughts, generating a person capable of tackling any task in any environment. It should not be, as it currently is, the training of mindless zombies with whatever the latest version is of a single vendors product(s). It sickens me to think the government encourages its citizens to partake in the criminal activity of a criminal organisation, using academic institutions so they can be the scapegoat should there be any fallout later.
Folks... it's called "bugtraq" and it's been around for decades.
Anyone else amused by the irony that someone is advocating open source software should start practising the things closed source development is now getting buzzword compliant with, which is made popular in that arena because its already such a success with open source software?;)
I spoke with Raster at the inaugural CALU in 1999. There's lots I cannot say (especially considering my poor memory;), but suffice to say they went their seperate ways.
Enlightenment is now undergoing yet another rewrite for version 0.17 which has been in progress for a few years. I'm hoping they're getting somewhere as they certinaly have some great ideas (some are mine hehe;) and I'd like to see them come to fruition.
GNOME changes official window managers each release - I'm wondering what they'll use for 2.4... waimea? icewm? something new again? Must be frustrating for the end users. I'm a WM junkie so I don't care;)
As others have said, E is trying to be its own desktop environment now. No doubt there's a niche in the market for yet another one. Good luck to everyone.
I got hooked on Strongbad typing emails on his Compy 386 by first getting hooked on Strongbad typing emails on his TRS-80. Complete with cracks in the monitor.
I actually started at the beginning to try to uncover just WTF fhqwgads was all about! Yep, its there in the email.
Don't forget the easter eggs. Not important to the quest for fhqwgads, but funny nonetheless.
Maybe they only have one computer because they spent too much money on good enough gear to be a stable web, mail, database, etc server AND play games;-)
If you connect via a dialin, you have two options. You can either use your ISP's mail server as your relay (many MTA's refer to this as a "smarthost") or you can setup POP-before-SMTP to temporarily enable mail relaying for the exact IP you have successfully authenticated from. The former is so much more easier than the latter, but even the latter is not difficult to do, and its extremely rare to have a MUA that cannot do it (even LookOut! can, which is fascinating considering it's not a Microsoft protocol).
Anybody configuring their mail server to allow any mail from a domain to be relayed is configuring an open relay. This is the most common misconfiguration of an MTA unfortunately:(
It's easy to be LSB compliant when the LSB is a Redhat standard - a watered-down, mediocre piece of rubbish designed solely to cause Redhat not to do any work to make their distribution compliant with this so-called "standard" while all the other distributions have to waste time making their distribution as bad as Redhat, destroying years of technically superior design and implementation.
Sound familiar? Yes, Redhat's favourite mentors Microsoft have been known to do the same thing. Want more evidence? How about the recent attempt in their beta to water down both GNOME and KDE so they don't appear any different? They're looking at making one desktop (like their favourite, Microsoft Windows). Sure, there'll still be people in the community who run other things just like some people with Microsoft Windows run Litestep and other alternatives, but for business all that matters is what the majority do.
Oh, and they create and sell non-open-source software also, so I find their claim of being all for the open source community rather laughable. Being part of the community means more than just releasing software under a community-accepted license like the GPL, it means accepting changes back that increase the quality of the base distribution, and Redhat are notorious for ignoring such things, just like their mentors Microsoft do.
So point out which shops are selling the Boxed Linux version. Hell, even point out the download link on the NWN site to the Linux client.
Oops, you can't? Didn't think so - because NEITHER exist.
Wow, you have to but the game to play it. That's horrible! How could they even THINK of charging you!
*sigh* No, instead of purchasing a boxed set for my OS as originally marketed, I have to buy the boxed set for some other operating system thereby making surveys show that nobody is running Neverwinter Nights on any platform other than Win32. This in turn makes vendors not want to support platforms other than the one from everyone's favourite criminal organisation.
The lies and deception are enough to make me not want to give these scum one cent of my money. I'll buy similar titles from more reputable, less immoral dealers.
I've decided that I'm not going to buy this game. They promised simultaneous release on 3 platforms, yet it is only available for 1. Not only that, apparently in order to play the promised version (hah- like mirabilis promised icq) I have to purchase this original release anyway, and bolster the statistics of people playing games on a platform I neither run nor care about.
I'm not going to waste my money on lying scum in order to make that other platform look more popular than it really is.
fun with sponsored links - pimping w/ ebay
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So I took the rude words link from the article, then clicked on the word "snatch" which was one of the many returned similar words.
Up came the following sponsored link:
Snatch on eBay. Low Prices. - Thousands of Items! Buy or Sell on eBay. www.ebay.com.au Interest: =====---
When John first announced to the sawfish community that he was leaving and would possibly be abandoning sawfish, I tried to put together a development team to continue it.
This team consisted of the top prolific sawfish contributors and some others including an engineer at Sun Microsystems who was involved (or possibly in charge) of bringing GNOME to Solaris.
This effort was dissolved by the GNOME people themselves, who refused to give CVS access to the sawfish repository to more than one developer - though they were quite happy to let the other 600 GNOME developers not part of sawfish to be able to corrupt^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hwrite to it - and were otherwise most uncooperative. They outright lied to John Harper and performed what could be construed as slander against me, and both John and I got sick of the situation and quit.
I'm not surprised to see this metacity development being lead by a notable GNOME contributor, one who is also guilty of lies and deceit that forced me to quit WindowMaker development many moons ago.
But good luck to him, if he thinks he can do better than sawfish, I for one welcome the attempt. The features of sawfish are where the future of X11 interfaces lie IMO.
People interested in WM's (from the use, not gloss perspective) should also check out treewm (http://treewm.sourceforge.net/) which is showing a lot of promise.
And if you want to see everything BUT themes on the front page of freshmeat, can you go to everything-but-the-themes.freshmeat.net ? This problem has a nasty scalability issue;)
As for screenshots, your post there is larger than the screenshots are (for me) by 1/4-1/3rd. It's just too small, and many of the screenshots I've seen have been extremely fuzzy - hence my comment that they're not much better than the thumbnail. The Mozilla issue I'm not sure what the cause is, I just suspect that the javascript on the close button is assuming a one-web-page-per-mozilla-window-instance thing which isn't true for me using tabbed browsing - I had 6 tabs open and pressing the close button blasted away Mozilla. Not a segfault, it was a clean close of the application (rather than simply removing that tab and leaving me with the rest of my work up;)
My third complaint is that its not easy to tell at a glance what theme belongs to what application from the front page, there's some tiny text under it with an extremely long path pointing out which section, but IMHO it should be up there with the title of the theme. Just a UI thing, and IMHO.
Anyway I wish the site good fortune, it looks like there's already been more themes posted in these few days than the old t.o had in the months after it came back from the crack! Nice work.
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I had never heard of Geronimo before, so I did the lemming thing and clicked on the link in the article and got the message in the subject. Now I'm not sure about you, but is it telling me that I should revisit their website after I feel relieved by urinating?
Can you imagine how you would feel if your country was taken over by a people that shoot your friends and relations for the fun of it?
...). Why do Palestinians not recieve the same assistance? I'd argue it is because the majority of the countries able to help if they were truly oppressed are presented with a picture of a nation of terrorists who kill indiscriminately and then jump up and down and have a good sook whenever Israel decide to use military force to protect their sovereignty. Nobody has respect for terrorists, and nobody has respect for cry-babies who like to deal out death and destruction but can't take it back.
I'd feel pretty ticked off, and if I was the President of said country, I'd be sending in the army to take care of it. Given the terrain and the rapid response required, they'd probably use gunships.
Strange, this sounds vaguely familiar.
I am not contending that this is right or justifiable but until the idiots in charge stop killing, the killing will continue. Arseholes like you say that it is OK for the Israelis to kill the Arabs because the Arabs kill innocent Israelis and the Arabs say that it is OK to kill the Israelis because the Israelis kill innocent Arabs.
Remember that there are idiots in charge on both sides; and not everyone who doesn't agree 100% with what you believe is an arsehole.
It is OK for Israel to protect their sovereignty. Every country has the right (and, I would say, the responsibility) to protect its citizens from harm - be it from formal declared war with another nation or terrorist attacks from disgruntled special interest groups. There does exist international laws that prevent genocide, and we've seen what happens in recent times when certain countries choose to flaunt those laws (former jugoslavia, iraq, iraq again, somalia, solomon islands, PNG,
FYI I don't think there's a single "western" country that honestly believes Israel is innocent and this situation is all the fault of Arabs. However part of the responsibility of expecting sovereignty over your own territory is accepting that other nations have that same right over theirs. I think the best solution for this problem is to split, much like how we have India and Pakistan today. But you will never come to that kind of agreement by constantly engaging in eye-for-eye physical violence. Both sides need to keep a check on their extremists, because that's who is continuing (and profiting from) the bloodshed.
The slashdot posting should be modded -1, flamebait. The actual quote from Szulik is, "I would say that for the consumer market place, Windows probably continues to be the right product line," he said.
Likewise Szulik's own comment should be modded -1, flamebait/Troll.
I don't see Windows 2003 Server (or Workstation, or XP, etc) running on consumer devices like Playstation 2, XBox, mobile phones, or PDAs. So how he gets off saying this trash is beyond me. All it proves to me is just how pro-Microsoft Redhat really are.
This whole "Is Linux ready for the desktop?" debate grows older, tireder, and more irrelevant every day (and has for many years) and the last we need is people in positions of authority coming out with garbage like this. Particularly when their company has just caused consumer confusion by rebranding their well-known product line (prompting media articles about it being dead).
Shame, Szulik, shame.
I'll bet on the last two ;)
From what I read on the Nvu site, it's not just a HTML editor, but something that will perform content management across an entire site. Now maybe I'm reading too much into that marketing blurb, but it sounds like its trying to compete (albeit in a small way) with Zope.
...which brings up the point: Why shouldn't Redhat just use the already existant Debian community and distro as the "Fedora Core"?
;-) The one thing I will say about Fedora is at least they appear to be wanting to go down the right path - finally taking community input - and I don't particularly care if they roll that into RHEE and make gazillions of dollars from it, Redhat do sponsor a lot of nice (and some may argue "important", but I'll be as humble as they are) Linux developers and the GPL offers some peace of mind to the community developing Fedora.
Because Debian is better, much much much better, and Redhat have a solid history of never wanting to integrate anything that's better into their distribution. In fact, their goals are apparently to make their system more like Microsoft Windows. So rather than going forwards, they're going backwards... and they make things worse by forcing everyone else to adopt their standards like the LSB and the FHS as the official Linux standards.
That being said, Fedora sounds like a step in the right direction, and as the proverb goes, the journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.
Fedora seems like a duplication of effort: something already accomplished by Debian.
Well, you could say the same for any Linux distribution - you could argue Debian is just a duplication of the efforts of SLS or Yggdrasil
The problem with having a sole distribution is that you trample all over progress in the name of stability and compatibility. At some stage no-one will be game to try something new (for example, replace the default desktop environment with NewSnazzyThing) because of what will amount to corporate pressure. Corporations are, for the most part, afraid of change. Creating a whole new distribution breathes life into the whole community by giving talented and creative folks freedom to try out new things, do things a bit differently, and find out what does and doesn't work, without affecting something important. You could argue a "unstable" or "development" branch could also permit that but I'll nip that in the bud by putting forward that those branches need time to stabilise therefore you're still boxed in, limited in what you can try out, particularly if it involves core functionality.
This is kinda like Zope except you can't do anything useful with it, like actually serve the generated site. Though I guess at some high level it could serve as an alternative user interface.
Ah well, the more software the merrier.
Why does everybody always point the finger at Office?
Because Microsoft Office is the 6 foot, 400 pound, hairy, toothless grin, bald gorilla in the patched leather armour that keeps the prisoners in Microsoft's lock-in.
It's a sad fact of our current society that most businesses require 100% compatibility with Microsoft Office, and Microsoft have been smart enough to implement it with enough flaws that 100% compatibility is not desirable, let alone achieveable.
The target for the desktop market is not the underlying OS, its the applications on top of it. Educate everyone you know that OpenOffice (or whatever) is a viable alternative using every piece of advocacy you can think of (platform compatibility, license costs, license freedoms, success stories, etc). Once you've jumped these barrels and knocked the gorilla off, you can climb to the higher levels of the underlying OS and so forth. Donkey Kong is not invincible, neither is Microsoft (or any other vendor enjoying a lock-in monopoly)
It's -trivially- easy to block port 25 and force all your customers to use the isp's SMTP servers. This makes it much easier to identify spammers, and stops many email viruses from spreading.
This also makes it trivially easy for spammers to dial up to such an ISP, dump all their spam on them, bugger off and let the ISP's mail server handle all the load of both sending the spam, and dealing with any retributions from the internet (tarpitting, etc).
There's a much better solution people always overlook - law. In most countries things like fraud and harassment are illegal. We just need more cases where people are willing to track down spammers and deal with them according to our existing laws.
Ever since VeriSlime wildcarded the .com and .net domains, the amount of spam I received increased fifty-fold. I thought it was a shame this article didn't link the two events together.
.au it'd be great if VeriSlime would recompense us for this extra traffic they have caused us to pay for.
Since we have to pay through the teeth for bandwidth here in
It's not like America here - there aren't a great number of aides (political staff) and they don't generally write bills - most of that kind of work is done by public servants.
Pube, Aide, whatever. The real frightening thing is that the portfolio he has control over is such a broad one that what you end up with is the arts students writing the IT policy. No offense to arts students, but come on... if anyone remembers their university days you know that these are the opposite ends of the spectrum with generally an intense loathing of one another. I met one of those directly responsible for the censorship laws - they admitted they didn't even bother researching the subject, all that mattered was getting the papers off their desk. It took all the self-control I had to avoid punching them in face a few times.
BTW Alston did something else pretty cool during the past fortnight, but buggered if I can remember what it was right now. But yeah, regardless he's still a Luddite.
Microsoft has been doing this for decades.
I am not interested in returning to University to get a degree when that degree is nothing more than an MCSE. I've seen the kind of so-called computer engineers the current courses put out, and it makes me sick. Take away MS Paint^H^H^H^H^H^HVisual Basic and these people cannot create "hello world", let alone anything worthy of engineering.
A tertiary qualification should be something that is challenging, giving a good grounding in current knowledge (with complete history) on the topic of the degree while also encouraging new thoughts, generating a person capable of tackling any task in any environment.
It should not be, as it currently is, the training of mindless zombies with whatever the latest version is of a single vendors product(s). It sickens me to think the government encourages its citizens to partake in the criminal activity of a criminal organisation, using academic institutions so they can be the scapegoat should there be any fallout later.
Folks... it's called "bugtraq" and it's been around for decades.
;)
Anyone else amused by the irony that someone is advocating open source software should start practising the things closed source development is now getting buzzword compliant with, which is made popular in that arena because its already such a success with open source software?
Next thing you know, it's going to be illegal to fill your car up with petrol because you're modifying the original contents of the car you purchased.
Oh wait, you sat in the vehicle? You opened its case, that's voiding its warranty.
What ever happened to equality?
go into your ~/.gnome-desktop directory and remove them.
I spoke with Raster at the inaugural CALU in 1999. ;), but suffice to say they went their seperate ways.
;) and I'd like to see them come to fruition.
;)
There's lots I cannot say (especially considering my poor memory
Enlightenment is now undergoing yet another rewrite for version 0.17 which has been in progress for a few years. I'm hoping they're getting somewhere as they certinaly have some great ideas (some are mine hehe
GNOME changes official window managers each release - I'm wondering what they'll use for 2.4... waimea? icewm? something new again?
Must be frustrating for the end users. I'm a WM junkie so I don't care
As others have said, E is trying to be its own desktop environment now. No doubt there's a niche in the market for yet another one. Good luck to everyone.
Please, drop it, go and do something constructive with your time.
:)
Having once been in a similar position, I can vouch for this. Fuck the politics, all you get is serious stress and health problems.
Most people left x vs. y and the eliteness of the "cool crowd" back in high school, and matured into adults. Don't slip backwards.
Nobody needs politics. Everybody needs code
I got hooked on Strongbad typing emails on his Compy 386 by first getting hooked on Strongbad typing emails on his TRS-80. Complete with cracks in the monitor.
I actually started at the beginning to try to uncover just WTF fhqwgads was all about! Yep, its there in the email.
Don't forget the easter eggs. Not important to the quest for fhqwgads, but funny nonetheless.
Maybe they only have one computer because they spent too much money on good enough gear to be a stable web, mail, database, etc server AND play games ;-)
If you connect via a dialin, you have two options.
:(
You can either use your ISP's mail server as your relay (many MTA's refer to this as a "smarthost") or you can setup POP-before-SMTP to temporarily enable mail relaying for the exact IP you have successfully authenticated from. The former is so much more easier than the latter, but even the latter is not difficult to do, and its extremely rare to have a MUA that cannot do it (even LookOut! can, which is fascinating considering it's not a Microsoft protocol).
Anybody configuring their mail server to allow any mail from a domain to be relayed is configuring an open relay. This is the most common misconfiguration of an MTA unfortunately
It's easy to be LSB compliant when the LSB is a Redhat standard - a watered-down, mediocre piece of rubbish designed solely to cause Redhat not to do any work to make their distribution compliant with this so-called "standard" while all the other distributions have to waste time making their distribution as bad as Redhat, destroying years of technically superior design and implementation.
Sound familiar? Yes, Redhat's favourite mentors Microsoft have been known to do the same thing.
Want more evidence? How about the recent attempt in their beta to water down both GNOME and KDE so they don't appear any different? They're looking at making one desktop (like their favourite, Microsoft Windows). Sure, there'll still be people in the community who run other things just like some people with Microsoft Windows run Litestep and other alternatives, but for business all that matters is what the majority do.
Oh, and they create and sell non-open-source software also, so I find their claim of being all for the open source community rather laughable.
Being part of the community means more than just releasing software under a community-accepted license like the GPL, it means accepting changes back that increase the quality of the base distribution, and Redhat are notorious for ignoring such things, just like their mentors Microsoft do.
So point out which shops are selling the Boxed Linux version. Hell, even point out the download link on the NWN site to the Linux client.
Oops, you can't? Didn't think so - because NEITHER exist.
Wow, you have to but the game to play it. That's horrible! How could they even THINK of charging you!
*sigh*
No, instead of purchasing a boxed set for my OS as originally marketed, I have to buy the boxed set for some other operating system thereby making surveys show that nobody is running Neverwinter Nights on any platform other than Win32. This in turn makes vendors not want to support platforms other than the one from everyone's favourite criminal organisation.
The lies and deception are enough to make me not want to give these scum one cent of my money. I'll buy similar titles from more reputable, less immoral dealers.
I've decided that I'm not going to buy this game.
They promised simultaneous release on 3 platforms, yet it is only available for 1. Not only that, apparently in order to play the promised version (hah- like mirabilis promised icq) I have to purchase this original release anyway, and bolster the statistics of people playing games on a platform I neither run nor care about.
I'm not going to waste my money on lying scum in order to make that other platform look more popular than it really is.
So I took the rude words link from the article, then clicked on the word "snatch" which was one of the many returned similar words.
:)
Up came the following sponsored link:
Snatch on eBay.
Low Prices. - Thousands of Items!
Buy or Sell on eBay.
www.ebay.com.au
Interest: =====---
Interpret that however you like
When John first announced to the sawfish community that he was leaving and would possibly be abandoning sawfish, I tried to put together a development team to continue it.
This team consisted of the top prolific sawfish contributors and some others including an engineer at Sun Microsystems who was involved (or possibly in charge) of bringing GNOME to Solaris.
This effort was dissolved by the GNOME people themselves, who refused to give CVS access to the sawfish repository to more than one developer - though they were quite happy to let the other 600 GNOME developers not part of sawfish to be able to corrupt^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hwrite to it - and were otherwise most uncooperative. They outright lied to John Harper and performed what could be construed as slander against me, and both John and I got sick of the situation and quit.
I'm not surprised to see this metacity development being lead by a notable GNOME contributor, one who is also guilty of lies and deceit that forced me to quit WindowMaker development many moons ago.
But good luck to him, if he thinks he can do better than sawfish, I for one welcome the attempt. The features of sawfish are where the future of X11 interfaces lie IMO.
People interested in WM's (from the use, not gloss perspective) should also check out treewm (http://treewm.sourceforge.net/)
which is showing a lot of promise.
And if you want to see everything BUT themes on the front page of freshmeat, can you go to everything-but-the-themes.freshmeat.net ? ;)
;)
This problem has a nasty scalability issue
As for screenshots, your post there is larger than the screenshots are (for me) by 1/4-1/3rd. It's just too small, and many of the screenshots I've seen have been extremely fuzzy - hence my comment that they're not much better than the thumbnail.
The Mozilla issue I'm not sure what the cause is, I just suspect that the javascript on the close button is assuming a one-web-page-per-mozilla-window-instance thing which isn't true for me using tabbed browsing - I had 6 tabs open and pressing the close button blasted away Mozilla. Not a segfault, it was a clean close of the application (rather than simply removing that tab and leaving me with the rest of my work up
My third complaint is that its not easy to tell at a glance what theme belongs to what application from the front page, there's some tiny text under it with an extremely long path pointing out which section, but IMHO it should be up there with the title of the theme. Just a UI thing, and IMHO.
Anyway I wish the site good fortune, it looks like there's already been more themes posted in these few days than the old t.o had in the months after it came back from the crack! Nice work.