Chinese grad student sitting next to me: "That happened 5 years ago, this is not news, this is the job my friend has, writing this software, that is what the supercomputer is for"
But anyways, it is not unreasonable to question the cleanliness/efficiency of new production techniques - there is often a reason for them not having been used in the past - maybe they are more energy-demanding, require more raw materials, or generate more waste which also has costs associated with it.
For arguments sake, if producing a conventional shoe generates a pound of waste, plus a shoe that is not easy to dispose of (today), and this new shoe generates two pounds of waste plus a fully biodegradable product, then what is really more clean? 2 pounds of waste, or 1 pound + shoe? Factoring out a pound of production waste from both, what is worse, a pound of production waste, or a shoe in a landfill?
Depending on the nature of the waste, and the persistence of the shoe, this is an important question to ask before all the hippies jump on the bandwagon.
Also has anyone who actually read TFA considered the fact that the students mentioned MIGHT have actually been lazy and/or rude ? Maybe this was the only way the *bad* teach could voice her frustration?
I totally agree, my most influential teacher pre-college followed a 'no holds barred' mentality, he routinely pointed out our flaws in the class, ridiculed us for not knowing our shit when we should have but at the same time praised success in a similar manner.... It been almost a decade since I left his classroom but i still keep in touch with the guy, as do many of his other students. It is no accident that he had the top slot state-wise in how well his students did on the AP test for that subject. The year I took it, of the 60ish kids that were in the two classes he taught, 56 got 5s, the other four all got fours.
The classroom was personal, it was almost like a grudge-match, "You vs. the Teach" he would throw a challenge your way, and if you handled it you laughed in his face, if you slacked, he would call you out on it in front of the room, you got pissed and studied extra hard the next time around.
Now that I am in a teaching position myself, at university instead of high school, I sometimes experience these feelings myself - many of the kids are too coddled, too pampered, too entitled, thinking that they can slide by with a barely passing grade if they just do minimum work. If I were to speak up early and tell them exactly where they are, then they may get their act together and do well. This isn't the case, political correctness wires my jaws shut, I have to interact with students using "formal-speak" only, lest I offend anyone. I am not allowed to appeal to a student sense of "hey, im an idiot for partying 4 days straight before an exam" because it might hurt someone's feelings.
OF COURSE publishing this type of thing for the world to see is wrong also, there are things that happen in the classroom that should stay in the classroom. If you feel that one of your students is a moron, there is no reason to tell the world and make them unemplyable forever,.... tell them in person and convince them to work and change your opinion.
Yea this is a big "fuck you" to blizzard-activision, not only is it likely to cut into their "customer base" but its also going to force them to spend money and resources on new (much needed) support infrastructure. I think we all know how much blizzard likes to shell out money on customer service - last time I had an issue with my wow account it took them 4 days to respond to my email and that whole time I was unable to talk to anyone on the phone because of either busy signals or 3+hour wait times, resulting in me giving up.
I find myself forced to use both - I would prefer Chrome, but it doesn't support the web-based components of my schools classes very well, for example even though it can display embedded PDFs, I have yet to figure out how the hell to print them in the way I want (think multiple handouts or powerpoint slides per page and so on), whereas firefox shows me a nice in-set toolbar that is specifically for the document and everything works swimmingly.
Also, how about the nerve that connects the mammal voicebox to the brain! In humans it travels down through the neck and exits at a specific vertebra into the voicebox, roughly 6 inches in length. In the giraffe, due to the gradual elongation of the neck over evolutionary time, this nerve ends up traveling over a meter down through the vertebrae of the giraffe, then exits the spinal column at the base of the neck, then travels over a meter BACK UP to the head and throat of the giraffe. Its a 3 meter long nerve, that only needs to be several centimeters in length... If this is by design, then its a pretty fucking stupid design:)
As an instructor of two 700+ student classes for undergraduates, it's incredible how many poorly spelled, unintelligible, punctuation-less emails I get throughout the semester. Written assignments are sometimes just as bad. Sometimes I wonder how these kids can cross a street without getting hit by a bus. Over the past ten years it has become easier and easier to get into school (and not just because of shadow writers) and it has become easier and easier to squeak by and graduate without learning anything, as evidenced by progressively dumber and dumber undergraduates.
Yes, this isn't the case universally, some schools are still very exclusive, and some classes/majors are still impossible to pass/complete without putting in the time.
And also... 23?!?! that's way outside his generation gap, did his parents home-school him in the basement with some old arcade machines? If any normal 23 year old were to die from videogame influence today, then it should be from something like WoW or Farmville!
I am a researcher myself, and must applaud you on having had a great experience while working in the private sector, as have I. However, while this is generally the case, you must not lose sight of the fact that the general population does not "trust" privately funded research results as much as government-funded. The general layperson view (at least among the people I know) is to always be suspicious of company-funded work because the pressure to produce results favorable to the company is always there - getting a followup grant based on good results is nice for anyone. This is not so much the case with NIH-funded projects, the NIH doesn't care whether you get result X or result Y, they just want an impartial answer. As far as thriftiness is concerned, I have not seen any gold-plated toilets around yet.
What I HAVE seen is an exchange of time vs. money: yea we can process these data/samples/unicorns/etc manually and it will take two years and cost $1000 in labor, OR we can buy a $15,000 machine (which will be available for future use too) and have final results in 3 months and have the data on PubMed in 6. That year and a half of expedience is well worth the money to everyone - the taxpayer benefits from the research release sooner, the lab can move on to new tests (which can now be done in only 3 months, as opposed to two MORE years after the first project) and best of all the NIH can decide to branch out on the subject and sponsor additional labs, or alternatively make an educated decision to drop the whole thing and push the funds somewhere else.
There is a reason companies and countries compete for who has the fastest supercomputer at the cost of billions of dollars beyond just the e-peen: if the top US machine runs at 1 petaflop, and the top Chinese machine runs at 2, and a lucrative challenge comes along, well the Chinese will get to whatever is the "solution" twice as fast, and will move on to the next task before the US even gets to it. <= crude example but there it is.
To quote a song on my iPod "Majority rule don't work in mental institutions" also, notice that there is not a "vote for" option, so really any small number of votes (maybe a couple thousand trolls) against anything can be used to discredit any potentially ground-breaking work. Looks to me like a very well disguised plan to provide ammunition against whatever research the politicians desire. Witch hunt of the 21st century anyone?
Also the two examples they use, couldn't the research in soccer player dynamics be applied to swarm robot technology, potentially resulting in advanced search and rescue applications? Couldn't the sound of breaking glass modeling be applied to similar goals, or maybe security systems ("window just shattered in room X, according to the analysis it was a high-speed impact, likely bullet impact" vs "window just shattered in room Y analysis indicates slow projectile, i.e. thrown rock")
Umm according to your link, the artists are actually making MORE now:
The decline in Recorded Revenue (To artists) from 2004-2008 is 152,500-111,750=40,750 thousand pound decrease. The increase in Live Revenue (To artists) from 2004-2008 is 650,880-382,320= 268,560 thousand pounds.
This yields a net increase of 227,810,000 pounds to artist revenue from 2004 to 2008.
Yea Labels are making less money (still as much as the artists though), but fuck them, the internet has turned them into a vestigial leech. In a world where "David After Dentist" can land millions of hits for free, a talented individual can/should stand alone.
That's like saying "if light could set you on fire then you'd have burst into flame ten times over from all that light you absorbed over your lifetime"
Fortunately radiation and light doesn't exactly work like that over long periods of exposure - the magnitude is important too, not just total lifetime exposure.
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Chinese grad student sitting next to me: "That happened 5 years ago, this is not news, this is the job my friend has, writing this software, that is what the supercomputer is for"
You totally didn't see what i did there...
But anyways, it is not unreasonable to question the cleanliness/efficiency of new production techniques - there is often a reason for them not having been used in the past - maybe they are more energy-demanding, require more raw materials, or generate more waste which also has costs associated with it.
For arguments sake, if producing a conventional shoe generates a pound of waste, plus a shoe that is not easy to dispose of (today), and this new shoe generates two pounds of waste plus a fully biodegradable product, then what is really more clean? 2 pounds of waste, or 1 pound + shoe?
Factoring out a pound of production waste from both, what is worse, a pound of production waste, or a shoe in a landfill?
Depending on the nature of the waste, and the persistence of the shoe, this is an important question to ask before all the hippies jump on the bandwagon.
How much of a pollution footprint do these generate *during production*?
Also has anyone who actually read TFA considered the fact that the students mentioned MIGHT have actually been lazy and/or rude ?
Maybe this was the only way the *bad* teach could voice her frustration?
I totally agree, my most influential teacher pre-college followed a 'no holds barred' mentality, he routinely pointed out our flaws in the class, ridiculed us for not knowing our shit when we should have but at the same time praised success in a similar manner.... It been almost a decade since I left his classroom but i still keep in touch with the guy, as do many of his other students. It is no accident that he had the top slot state-wise in how well his students did on the AP test for that subject. The year I took it, of the 60ish kids that were in the two classes he taught, 56 got 5s, the other four all got fours.
.... tell them in person and convince them to work and change your opinion.
The classroom was personal, it was almost like a grudge-match, "You vs. the Teach" he would throw a challenge your way, and if you handled it you laughed in his face, if you slacked, he would call you out on it in front of the room, you got pissed and studied extra hard the next time around.
Now that I am in a teaching position myself, at university instead of high school, I sometimes experience these feelings myself - many of the kids are too coddled, too pampered, too entitled, thinking that they can slide by with a barely passing grade if they just do minimum work. If I were to speak up early and tell them exactly where they are, then they may get their act together and do well. This isn't the case, political correctness wires my jaws shut, I have to interact with students using "formal-speak" only, lest I offend anyone. I am not allowed to appeal to a student sense of "hey, im an idiot for partying 4 days straight before an exam" because it might hurt someone's feelings.
OF COURSE publishing this type of thing for the world to see is wrong also, there are things that happen in the classroom that should stay in the classroom. If you feel that one of your students is a moron, there is no reason to tell the world and make them unemplyable forever,
How long until confessions with keywords like "kill" and "rob" or the ever-popular "molested" are sent directly to the FBI via apple?
Yea this is a big "fuck you" to blizzard-activision, not only is it likely to cut into their "customer base" but its also going to force them to spend money and resources on new (much needed) support infrastructure. I think we all know how much blizzard likes to shell out money on customer service - last time I had an issue with my wow account it took them 4 days to respond to my email and that whole time I was unable to talk to anyone on the phone because of either busy signals or 3+hour wait times, resulting in me giving up.
I find myself forced to use both - I would prefer Chrome, but it doesn't support the web-based components of my schools classes very well, for example even though it can display embedded PDFs, I have yet to figure out how the hell to print them in the way I want (think multiple handouts or powerpoint slides per page and so on), whereas firefox shows me a nice in-set toolbar that is specifically for the document and everything works swimmingly.
Also, how about the nerve that connects the mammal voicebox to the brain! In humans it travels down through the neck and exits at a specific vertebra into the voicebox, roughly 6 inches in length. In the giraffe, due to the gradual elongation of the neck over evolutionary time, this nerve ends up traveling over a meter down through the vertebrae of the giraffe, then exits the spinal column at the base of the neck, then travels over a meter BACK UP to the head and throat of the giraffe. Its a 3 meter long nerve, that only needs to be several centimeters in length ... If this is by design, then its a pretty fucking stupid design :)
End of story
Pardon me, but your lack or social intelligence is showing.
This !!
As an instructor of two 700+ student classes for undergraduates, it's incredible how many poorly spelled, unintelligible, punctuation-less emails I get throughout the semester. Written assignments are sometimes just as bad. Sometimes I wonder how these kids can cross a street without getting hit by a bus.
Over the past ten years it has become easier and easier to get into school (and not just because of shadow writers) and it has become easier and easier to squeak by and graduate without learning anything, as evidenced by progressively dumber and dumber undergraduates.
Yes, this isn't the case universally, some schools are still very exclusive, and some classes/majors are still impossible to pass/complete without putting in the time.
i prefer dumping on /b/ ... thousands of instant backups, all off-site !
I think you're over-thinking it... its a simple case of successful troll being successful!
OR, better yet, take the warning labels off everything, and let the problem solve itself?
And also ... 23?!?! that's way outside his generation gap, did his parents home-school him in the basement with some old arcade machines? If any normal 23 year old were to die from videogame influence today, then it should be from something like WoW or Farmville!
Now everyone will know where at least $0.000001 of their taxes will go for the next 60ish years.
Need to shoot some Arabs? There's an App for that!
If only I hadn't just used my last mod point on the dont ask dont tell thread ...
I am a researcher myself, and must applaud you on having had a great experience while working in the private sector, as have I. However, while this is generally the case, you must not lose sight of the fact that the general population does not "trust" privately funded research results as much as government-funded. The general layperson view (at least among the people I know) is to always be suspicious of company-funded work because the pressure to produce results favorable to the company is always there - getting a followup grant based on good results is nice for anyone. This is not so much the case with NIH-funded projects, the NIH doesn't care whether you get result X or result Y, they just want an impartial answer. As far as thriftiness is concerned, I have not seen any gold-plated toilets around yet.
What I HAVE seen is an exchange of time vs. money: yea we can process these data/samples/unicorns/etc manually and it will take two years and cost $1000 in labor, OR we can buy a $15,000 machine (which will be available for future use too) and have final results in 3 months and have the data on PubMed in 6. That year and a half of expedience is well worth the money to everyone - the taxpayer benefits from the research release sooner, the lab can move on to new tests (which can now be done in only 3 months, as opposed to two MORE years after the first project) and best of all the NIH can decide to branch out on the subject and sponsor additional labs, or alternatively make an educated decision to drop the whole thing and push the funds somewhere else.
There is a reason companies and countries compete for who has the fastest supercomputer at the cost of billions of dollars beyond just the e-peen: if the top US machine runs at 1 petaflop, and the top Chinese machine runs at 2, and a lucrative challenge comes along, well the Chinese will get to whatever is the "solution" twice as fast, and will move on to the next task before the US even gets to it. <= crude example but there it is.
To quote a song on my iPod "Majority rule don't work in mental institutions"
also, notice that there is not a "vote for" option, so really any small number of votes (maybe a couple thousand trolls) against anything can be used to discredit any potentially ground-breaking work. Looks to me like a very well disguised plan to provide ammunition against whatever research the politicians desire.
Witch hunt of the 21st century anyone?
Also the two examples they use, couldn't the research in soccer player dynamics be applied to swarm robot technology, potentially resulting in advanced search and rescue applications? Couldn't the sound of breaking glass modeling be applied to similar goals, or maybe security systems ("window just shattered in room X, according to the analysis it was a high-speed impact, likely bullet impact" vs "window just shattered in room Y analysis indicates slow projectile, i.e. thrown rock")
Umm according to your link, the artists are actually making MORE now:
The decline in Recorded Revenue (To artists) from 2004-2008 is 152,500-111,750=40,750 thousand pound decrease.
The increase in Live Revenue (To artists) from 2004-2008 is 650,880-382,320= 268,560 thousand pounds.
This yields a net increase of 227,810,000 pounds to artist revenue from 2004 to 2008.
Yea Labels are making less money (still as much as the artists though), but fuck them, the internet has turned them into a vestigial leech. In a world where "David After Dentist" can land millions of hits for free, a talented individual can/should stand alone.
I spend too much time reading Simple Wiki
... for Real Men.
If only I had mod points!!
That's like saying "if light could set you on fire then you'd have burst into flame ten times over from all that light you absorbed over your lifetime"
Fortunately radiation and light doesn't exactly work like that over long periods of exposure - the magnitude is important too, not just total lifetime exposure.