So the solution is for spammers to set up compute farms of cheap old hardware with an open soure version of the mailer. Since memory latency matters, and not processor speed, the solution is to have access to more than one computer. A farm of 10 machines then sends out 80,000 messages a day. A real super computer farm funded by a spammer alliance could get back to shipping millions of spam messages a day. What was the cheapest supercomputer cluster mentioned on Slashdot, something like $30,000? Is that really all that much money when you consider that a group of spammers could split that and amortize over many years? Remember, age of the hardware is not a consideration, just CPUs with access to memory segments. How about a very large system with hundreds of virtual 386 processes running 128k memory segments?
I think in the long run only something more expensive will deter most spam, but will not succeed completely. Case in point is all the junk mail we still get in our real mailbox. Someone out there is paying for postage to send that crap, yet they still ship it to me so that I can place it in my trash can.
That doesn't make it any better. This pretty much makes it even more Machiavellian. They planned on pulling this Fedora/Enterprise crap on us a while back. Paying attention or not, they've been rolling OS versions over too frequently. Are they honestly saying they couldn't make the changes that were RedHat8 to RedHat9 by just releasing RPMs? They do this to boost support sales since the beginning of a new OS's use is when support needs are the highest.
Isn't it also pathetic this basically says that RedHat is putting their best effort into the Enterprise version, but playing fast and loose with the freely available version?
Watch out! Don't use Fedora for business. Goodness knows where they got their libraries from, but it's not Enterprise worthy. Want stability? Fork over some cash and we'll give you the real deal.
You got it. Because everyone knows that all those little support payments for being able to use up2date aren't keeping RedHat afloat. All those free downloads are boosting RedHat's profits as we speak!! Oh, no, Red Hat is not about profit. But evil Microsoft, however, whoa! Their tactics are worse than the Khmer Rouge.
Gimme a break. You know damn well that RedHat wishes they were in Microsoft's place, pressing the boot down on Sun's head just as MSFT is now. This "yay RedHat" crap is all just ignorant fanboy cheering. Any good admin knows that you use the right OS in the right place. I'm a big fan of RedHat on the backend, but give me my Win2k/XP at the client side any day. I'm very frustrated with RedHat's quick obsolecense of any OS. They know that the most support is needed when a new OS is released, so they force people to upgrade to something new and different to boost support sales every year. No different from these companies that put out meager feature enhancements (buggyfeatures , I might add) every quarter to boost the bottom line.
I don't know about you, but my time and effort are worth quite a bit to me. If you put that little value on yours, well, that's your problem. Some people don't even know they have upgraditis. Even in the corporation I can't stand how often RedHat obsoletes their OS. Last time I had to reboot Linux? LAST WEEK WHEN THE FRIGGIN KERNEL FLAW WAS REVEALED, JACKASS!!
Rebooted Windows in the past week? What are you talking about? I haven't rebooted my Win2k box for a month now, and never gotten a virus (though I admit I bought the antivirus out of FUD). Sounds like you're spinning some FUD of your own, though. So much for being open minded.
So the role of network/system/etc admins is to do whatever the coders want and screw all other considerations and users?
Hey coders, I got news for ya. The reason the admins are out there is for the throngs of other users out there that are *using*apps* to do work that progresses the human race instead of cranking out rafts of buggy and useless shit every quarter to boost the bottom line. "Security and all other considerations be damned" is not the way to run a company. You coders would be screaming for a network admin's the first time you were hacked because he opened the firewall for every reason you gave them. You're already playing fast and loose with the company code, lets not fuck up the rest of the company. Stick to trying to work out the keyboard and file editor, code monkey.
Have you noticed that there are more people in the US and that the US is bigger than South Korea? Do you suppose that the cost for this might be more than $80b? Maybe this would cover California or part of the Northeast, but we aren't getting any national 100Mb network in the US for $80b.
Don't put the computers in their individual rooms. Put them all in one area so they can keep an eye on each other. Heck, the older one may do some of your work for you with the younger ones. The "everything I know I learned before Kindergarten" adage is very true. If you haven't instilled the basic idea that trust goes both ways at a young age (kindergarten may be a young line to draw), then you won't be able trust them with this responsibility and they won't trust others. At the same time they have to understand that there are those that, for god or ill, are incapable of trusting others because they did not learn this. And likewise they understand that there are those that do things outside accepted norms in the real world and the internet that reflects that world.
I, for one, have given my 13 and 8 year olds open access to the internet without restricting access or content, but have talked to them often about what is available, good and bad. The internet, like any other tool, can be used to cure or cudgel. If they are mature enough, they will use that hammer to build constructively rather than on kittens. They have to understand that there are rewards and punishments for behavior inside and outside the accepted norms and trusting them with something like this can be a safer alternative than letting them possibly walk through seedy neighborhoods to learn the same lessons.
So the slightly longer and harder route of actually educating your kids will benefit them for far many more things than just this little tool.
Check again. Barney is a symbol for psychological torture. The short history behind that is that music from the "Barney and Friends" television show was being used, along with Metallica, as a form of torture of "War on Terror" prisoners at Guantanamo. The article makes the case that people studying prison rape as experiencing psychological torture. Who gives a fuck what the prison-rapee thinks about it. In my opinion, he is in among his peers for acting like them.
What about that bastard Lincoln who said I couldn't own slaves? There was some massive asset forfeiture going on there. And then there was something in 1776 that said I can't take action against people because of their speech and religion. And what about my self-perceived right to kill whoever I want?
No, I don't agree with those, but my point is that everyone has something they think is being taken away from them. You will only have maximum rights when all laws are gone, but you can bet your ass that the basest human desires will rule the day and things will be far from rosy. The one thing people know how to do best is be cruel to their fellow man. With each step further away from barbarism, the collar around your neck fits tighter and tighter.
This is where frequent password rotation comes into play. Security is more than that single great password. You need to have a continually changing flow of great passwords to keep one step ahead of hackers. What's in your password wallet?
We do that in corporations where we are forced to change the password every 3-6 months, but we gripe about it and avoid doing it elsewhere. How many of us really take that extra measure of security. Remember, security is a process, not a destination.
Know your tools. Anyone who receives a dull rusty knife and thinks it is OK to use like that out of the box really deserves his Darwin award. It is not OK to handle a circular saw without taking the proper precautions and none of the above is OK to use without knowledge and preparation either. People are too lazy yet want to do everything.
And in the case of corporate use, it is the company that owns the equipment and decides how the systems may be used by the employees. Norton makes centralized "Corporate Editions" of these products, which are often centralized by policies periodically downloaded from a corporate server. This helps shorten the amount of time employees need to train these tools so that images from places like google.com are not blocked, but ads from doubleclick.com are blocked. And since time is money, that is a good thing.
As for thehome user, if they are not familiar with the software they are loading, I don't feel sorry for them. At what point do people take responsibilty for the tools they are using?
And at what point do people get sick of the legal route and take matters into their own hands? I think the messages gets across after a few spammers disappear in a mist of quickly oxidizing nitrogen-based substances, or a hail of metal. For those International spammers, at some point the links to the civilized world have to be considered a liability and just need to be shut off or filtered.
"Your honor, the knife company is to blame, not my heinous disregard for human life. You see, their product allowed me to kill people. Following the precedent set by software companies, I have no responsibility as to how I use the tool, but the vendor has to make sure it is idiot proof in the hands of anyone who ever thinks about touching a mouse."
Idiot, Outlook is a tool, as are the rest of the programs on your system, and pretty much everything around you. If a person is not smart enough to handle a tool they need to keep the hell away from it. I like my knives sharp, my cars fast, and my software unrestricted. Only once they start hanging virus writers will this crap stop.
Nothing prevents people from doing something "wrong" other than their conscience, or in the case of ignorance, or knowing that it is "wrong". Since no one was regulating this, HIPPA is therefore only enforcement once people have been screwed. And regulation over every move made by a company that ever handles public information then just ends up becoming a publicly funded monstrosity.
I have a non-Mac bias. Anything not made by Apple is good. I have perfect uptime with everything I have from Intel, AMD, and Sun (though we won't be buying much more of those...overpriced for the performance). There is no compelling reason to go through the *crap* of not having all the applications that I want because none of my Vendors are making Mac compatible applications or have long since removed support for Macs. I will not go through the added hassle of tracking down what is compatible with Macs when 95% of what is out there is already compatible with what I have. I call that *crap* and if you want to wallow in that, be my guest. If Apple builds it into something a little more, then maybe I'll come to see them play ball. Otherwise, don't waste my time with the amateur hour stuff, I have work to do. It doesn't matter if the OS is as rock-solid as the others if there is nothing for me to run on it.
True, but how accessible will the alternatives be?
Tsk tsk tsk. Always the consumer and never the producer. The alternatives will be what you make them out to be. Make nothing, and you have no alternatives, deservedly so.
It all comes down to what OS that fast box is running. For me, I wouldn't touch that Apple crap with a 10 foot stick and they're certainly not going on my network. Linux at the desktop just doesn't cut it. So it's WinXP on the frontend and Linux on the backend. Thank good ness both can run on Athlons!!
That would be ugly should they learn to override the programming that controls the C4's detonation and crowd together in a public place. Reminds me of how the new thermobaric bombs work. A little explosive spread around a large area, detontating all at once, can do some major damage.
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...do you really want some companies contributing? As bad as their commercial code is, they could bring the state of open source down a few pegs.
So the solution is for spammers to set up compute farms of cheap old hardware with an open soure version of the mailer. Since memory latency matters, and not processor speed, the solution is to have access to more than one computer. A farm of 10 machines then sends out 80,000 messages a day. A real super computer farm funded by a spammer alliance could get back to shipping millions of spam messages a day. What was the cheapest supercomputer cluster mentioned on Slashdot, something like $30,000? Is that really all that much money when you consider that a group of spammers could split that and amortize over many years? Remember, age of the hardware is not a consideration, just CPUs with access to memory segments. How about a very large system with hundreds of virtual 386 processes running 128k memory segments?
I think in the long run only something more expensive will deter most spam, but will not succeed completely. Case in point is all the junk mail we still get in our real mailbox. Someone out there is paying for postage to send that crap, yet they still ship it to me so that I can place it in my trash can.
Dunno, but probably accurate. No reason to think people who work at Firaxis are incapable of coming up with witty sayings.
Where are the comments? Something seems broken today...
That doesn't make it any better. This pretty much makes it even more Machiavellian. They planned on pulling this Fedora/Enterprise crap on us a while back. Paying attention or not, they've been rolling OS versions over too frequently. Are they honestly saying they couldn't make the changes that were RedHat8 to RedHat9 by just releasing RPMs? They do this to boost support sales since the beginning of a new OS's use is when support needs are the highest.
Isn't it also pathetic this basically says that RedHat is putting their best effort into the Enterprise version, but playing fast and loose with the freely available version?
Watch out! Don't use Fedora for business. Goodness knows where they got their libraries from, but it's not Enterprise worthy. Want stability? Fork over some cash and we'll give you the real deal.
You got it. Because everyone knows that all those little support payments for being able to use up2date aren't keeping RedHat afloat. All those free downloads are boosting RedHat's profits as we speak!! Oh, no, Red Hat is not about profit. But evil Microsoft, however, whoa! Their tactics are worse than the Khmer Rouge.
Gimme a break. You know damn well that RedHat wishes they were in Microsoft's place, pressing the boot down on Sun's head just as MSFT is now. This "yay RedHat" crap is all just ignorant fanboy cheering. Any good admin knows that you use the right OS in the right place. I'm a big fan of RedHat on the backend, but give me my Win2k/XP at the client side any day. I'm very frustrated with RedHat's quick obsolecense of any OS. They know that the most support is needed when a new OS is released, so they force people to upgrade to something new and different to boost support sales every year. No different from these companies that put out meager feature enhancements (buggyfeatures , I might add) every quarter to boost the bottom line.
I don't know about you, but my time and effort are worth quite a bit to me. If you put that little value on yours, well, that's your problem. Some people don't even know they have upgraditis. Even in the corporation I can't stand how often RedHat obsoletes their OS. Last time I had to reboot Linux? LAST WEEK WHEN THE FRIGGIN KERNEL FLAW WAS REVEALED, JACKASS!!
Rebooted Windows in the past week? What are you talking about? I haven't rebooted my Win2k box for a month now, and never gotten a virus (though I admit I bought the antivirus out of FUD). Sounds like you're spinning some FUD of your own, though. So much for being open minded.
So the role of network/system/etc admins is to do whatever the coders want and screw all other considerations and users?
Hey coders, I got news for ya. The reason the admins are out there is for the throngs of other users out there that are *using*apps* to do work that progresses the human race instead of cranking out rafts of buggy and useless shit every quarter to boost the bottom line. "Security and all other considerations be damned" is not the way to run a company. You coders would be screaming for a network admin's the first time you were hacked because he opened the firewall for every reason you gave them. You're already playing fast and loose with the company code, lets not fuck up the rest of the company. Stick to trying to work out the keyboard and file editor, code monkey.
Have you noticed that there are more people in the US and that the US is bigger than South Korea? Do you suppose that the cost for this might be more than $80b? Maybe this would cover California or part of the Northeast, but we aren't getting any national 100Mb network in the US for $80b.
Don't put the computers in their individual rooms. Put them all in one area so they can keep an eye on each other. Heck, the older one may do some of your work for you with the younger ones. The "everything I know I learned before Kindergarten" adage is very true. If you haven't instilled the basic idea that trust goes both ways at a young age (kindergarten may be a young line to draw), then you won't be able trust them with this responsibility and they won't trust others. At the same time they have to understand that there are those that, for god or ill, are incapable of trusting others because they did not learn this. And likewise they understand that there are those that do things outside accepted norms in the real world and the internet that reflects that world.
I, for one, have given my 13 and 8 year olds open access to the internet without restricting access or content, but have talked to them often about what is available, good and bad. The internet, like any other tool, can be used to cure or cudgel. If they are mature enough, they will use that hammer to build constructively rather than on kittens. They have to understand that there are rewards and punishments for behavior inside and outside the accepted norms and trusting them with something like this can be a safer alternative than letting them possibly walk through seedy neighborhoods to learn the same lessons.
So the slightly longer and harder route of actually educating your kids will benefit them for far many more things than just this little tool.
Check again. Barney is a symbol for psychological torture. The short history behind that is that music from the "Barney and Friends" television show was being used, along with Metallica, as a form of torture of "War on Terror" prisoners at Guantanamo. The article makes the case that people studying prison rape as experiencing psychological torture. Who gives a fuck what the prison-rapee thinks about it. In my opinion, he is in among his peers for acting like them.
What about that bastard Lincoln who said I couldn't own slaves? There was some massive asset forfeiture going on there. And then there was something in 1776 that said I can't take action against people because of their speech and religion. And what about my self-perceived right to kill whoever I want?
No, I don't agree with those, but my point is that everyone has something they think is being taken away from them. You will only have maximum rights when all laws are gone, but you can bet your ass that the basest human desires will rule the day and things will be far from rosy. The one thing people know how to do best is be cruel to their fellow man. With each step further away from barbarism, the collar around your neck fits tighter and tighter.
This is where frequent password rotation comes into play. Security is more than that single great password. You need to have a continually changing flow of great passwords to keep one step ahead of hackers. What's in your password wallet?
We do that in corporations where we are forced to change the password every 3-6 months, but we gripe about it and avoid doing it elsewhere. How many of us really take that extra measure of security. Remember, security is a process, not a destination.
Know your tools. Anyone who receives a dull rusty knife and thinks it is OK to use like that out of the box really deserves his Darwin award. It is not OK to handle a circular saw without taking the proper precautions and none of the above is OK to use without knowledge and preparation either. People are too lazy yet want to do everything.
And in the case of corporate use, it is the company that owns the equipment and decides how the systems may be used by the employees. Norton makes centralized "Corporate Editions" of these products, which are often centralized by policies periodically downloaded from a corporate server. This helps shorten the amount of time employees need to train these tools so that images from places like google.com are not blocked, but ads from doubleclick.com are blocked. And since time is money, that is a good thing.
As for thehome user, if they are not familiar with the software they are loading, I don't feel sorry for them. At what point do people take responsibilty for the tools they are using?
And at what point do people get sick of the legal route and take matters into their own hands? I think the messages gets across after a few spammers disappear in a mist of quickly oxidizing nitrogen-based substances, or a hail of metal. For those International spammers, at some point the links to the civilized world have to be considered a liability and just need to be shut off or filtered.
"Your honor, the knife company is to blame, not my heinous disregard for human life. You see, their product allowed me to kill people. Following the precedent set by software companies, I have no responsibility as to how I use the tool, but the vendor has to make sure it is idiot proof in the hands of anyone who ever thinks about touching a mouse."
Idiot, Outlook is a tool, as are the rest of the programs on your system, and pretty much everything around you. If a person is not smart enough to handle a tool they need to keep the hell away from it. I like my knives sharp, my cars fast, and my software unrestricted. Only once they start hanging virus writers will this crap stop.
This is better
Nothing prevents people from doing something "wrong" other than their conscience, or in the case of ignorance, or knowing that it is "wrong". Since no one was regulating this, HIPPA is therefore only enforcement once people have been screwed. And regulation over every move made by a company that ever handles public information then just ends up becoming a publicly funded monstrosity.
I have a non-Mac bias. Anything not made by Apple is good. I have perfect uptime with everything I have from Intel, AMD, and Sun (though we won't be buying much more of those...overpriced for the performance). There is no compelling reason to go through the *crap* of not having all the applications that I want because none of my Vendors are making Mac compatible applications or have long since removed support for Macs. I will not go through the added hassle of tracking down what is compatible with Macs when 95% of what is out there is already compatible with what I have. I call that *crap* and if you want to wallow in that, be my guest. If Apple builds it into something a little more, then maybe I'll come to see them play ball. Otherwise, don't waste my time with the amateur hour stuff, I have work to do. It doesn't matter if the OS is as rock-solid as the others if there is nothing for me to run on it.
True, but how accessible will the alternatives be?
Tsk tsk tsk. Always the consumer and never the producer. The alternatives will be what you make them out to be. Make nothing, and you have no alternatives, deservedly so.
It all comes down to what OS that fast box is running. For me, I wouldn't touch that Apple crap with a 10 foot stick and they're certainly not going on my network. Linux at the desktop just doesn't cut it. So it's WinXP on the frontend and Linux on the backend. Thank good ness both can run on Athlons!!
I've discounted AOL every time I ever thought about what ISP to use.
That would be ugly should they learn to override the programming that controls the C4's detonation and crowd together in a public place. Reminds me of how the new thermobaric bombs work. A little explosive spread around a large area, detontating all at once, can do some major damage.