Apple already has AppleWorks, which will knock out most of what MSO is used for (from a strictly utilitarian standpoint). Go check out their software section. Some recently unvieled software includes Keynote, a presentation software competing directly with MSPP, and Safari, a Konquerer based web browser to compete directly against IE.
Although I use Linux (because of cheap hardware and even cheaper software) I'd buy Apple over MS any day of the week and twice on Sundays. The only thing that Apple doesn't have is a low end offering. But I guess that can be taken care of with the used mac market, which is huge.
I've found that it's much easier to say to people 'hey, check out this software that runs on windows' than it is to say 'hey, ditch windows and use linux'. People are generally more responsive if they don't have to leave their comfort zone, then once they have a chance to use Free Software, see that they like it, that it's better, have used OpenOffice in windows, then say oh yea, Linux can do that, and more, and with more freedom. It's especially easy to nab programmers that way, because they get to see the source of what they're using.
I've been doing this for a while, building my own CDs and passing them out. First with Win32 software then a Linux distro. Knoppix was rad because it let me add another step to the conversion process. It's a step to change mindshare and for a lot of people OpenCD will be their first step towards computing freedom.
I leave a trail of little Linux users everywhere I go and this is the tactic I've been using for a long time. Now they've made my job easier.
I've used Linux and Mac OS X on both PPC G3 and G4 systems, and OS X runs considerably slower on both chips. It's not just about clock speeds here, because back in the day I ran YellowDog on an iMac 333 which ran smooth enough for having the wrong Linux video drivers installed. But with OS X on the same hardware I can hardly drag windows around. OS X needs a hefty G4, and plenty of RAM for Aqua to chew on or you really aren't going anywhere. Just try launching the Terminal with only 128M.
Not to say that OS X is a bad system, or that PPC hardware is inferior to x86. They're both really good systems, but Mac OS X just isn't optimized to run smoothly (and this has been admitted by Apple). The real problem is that they need to go back and redesign some things to bring back the speed. Right now all they've been caring about is appearance.
I haven't used Jaguar though, so I don't know how it compares. Besides, OS X is new, and it has it's issues. Speed is a major one. Hopefully they'll bring it in line in time for people to give it a decent chance. I'd love to switch my whole family off of windows and onto a stable, easy to use system like Mac OS X, but they aren't willing to buy a computer at double the clock speed of their PC and running apps slower.
99.99999% of music is traded via MP3. Get over it.
But 100% of what I rip myself is ogg. And that's what I want to take with me. Not some crap riped with poor hardware at low bitrate by Joe Blow in MP3 format.
Actually Windows only runs on RISC processors. All moder Intel and AMD chips are internally RISC, they translate the external instructions for the core. The only reason they aren't fully RISC for real is because Microsoft wouldn't allow it. Kind of sucks when you think how much more power we'd all have if processor architecture weren't lobotomized for Microsoft's benifit by wasting clock cycles on that translation.
I don't know about any of the rest of you, but I use galeon, and I tried a link, a bookmark and typing my own url. Each time returning to the page that suposedly demonstrates this exposure I got url=unknown.
So what good is this article?
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AOL And The GPL
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Ok, so at the very least AOL has included software that they claim to be theirs that is covered fully by the GPL and at the end the article says "it's up to the copyright holders". But they don't even give a list of the software that they found. How are the copyright holders suposed to know if/their/ code was stolen and put inside this box.
Now it's true that closed source programs can be written to run on top of GPL software (such as Netscape 4 running on Linux). But at the very least, according to the terms of the GPL since AOL is releasing this product, they also must include with it a copy of the GPL and make available the source code for the non proprietary code. Also, if they have changed any GPL code, they must GPL their changes.
I don't know how far this thing goes, but as far as I'm concerned, if AOL doesn't start getting in compliance that the FSF sues. Because of the terms of the GPL, and we have very probable cause to believe that AOL has violated those terms, if we in the Free Software movement push hard enough we can probably get the full source code for this entire box (including the so-called proprietary portions) disclosed at least in court so that it can be audited for GPL code.
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Apple already has AppleWorks, which will knock out most of what MSO is used for (from a strictly utilitarian standpoint). Go check out their software section. Some recently unvieled software includes Keynote, a presentation software competing directly with MSPP, and Safari, a Konquerer based web browser to compete directly against IE.
Although I use Linux (because of cheap hardware and even cheaper software) I'd buy Apple over MS any day of the week and twice on Sundays. The only thing that Apple doesn't have is a low end offering. But I guess that can be taken care of with the used mac market, which is huge.
Um, you do if you're running windows.
Just one more reason why choosy moms choose Linux.
But it was!
I've found that it's much easier to say to people 'hey, check out this software that runs on windows' than it is to say 'hey, ditch windows and use linux'. People are generally more responsive if they don't have to leave their comfort zone, then once they have a chance to use Free Software, see that they like it, that it's better, have used OpenOffice in windows, then say oh yea, Linux can do that, and more, and with more freedom. It's especially easy to nab programmers that way, because they get to see the source of what they're using.
I've been doing this for a while, building my own CDs and passing them out. First with Win32 software then a Linux distro. Knoppix was rad because it let me add another step to the conversion process. It's a step to change mindshare and for a lot of people OpenCD will be their first step towards computing freedom.
I leave a trail of little Linux users everywhere I go and this is the tactic I've been using for a long time. Now they've made my job easier.
I find his basic premise flawed.
(1) Operating systems are relics of the past
In order to use Scopeware Vision, you should have the following minimum configuration:
Windows 2000 or Windows XP Professional or Home
Does anyone else find something oddly humorous about this?
I've used Linux and Mac OS X on both PPC G3 and G4 systems, and OS X runs considerably slower on both chips. It's not just about clock speeds here, because back in the day I ran YellowDog on an iMac 333 which ran smooth enough for having the wrong Linux video drivers installed. But with OS X on the same hardware I can hardly drag windows around. OS X needs a hefty G4, and plenty of RAM for Aqua to chew on or you really aren't going anywhere. Just try launching the Terminal with only 128M.
Not to say that OS X is a bad system, or that PPC hardware is inferior to x86. They're both really good systems, but Mac OS X just isn't optimized to run smoothly (and this has been admitted by Apple). The real problem is that they need to go back and redesign some things to bring back the speed. Right now all they've been caring about is appearance.
I haven't used Jaguar though, so I don't know how it compares. Besides, OS X is new, and it has it's issues. Speed is a major one. Hopefully they'll bring it in line in time for people to give it a decent chance. I'd love to switch my whole family off of windows and onto a stable, easy to use system like Mac OS X, but they aren't willing to buy a computer at double the clock speed of their PC and running apps slower.
Dude, could you imagine a beowolf cluster playing Oggs? That'd be so rad!
99.99999% of music is traded via MP3. Get over it.
But 100% of what I rip myself is ogg. And that's what I want to take with me. Not some crap riped with poor hardware at low bitrate by Joe Blow in MP3 format.
Actually Windows only runs on RISC processors. All moder Intel and AMD chips are internally RISC, they translate the external instructions for the core. The only reason they aren't fully RISC for real is because Microsoft wouldn't allow it. Kind of sucks when you think how much more power we'd all have if processor architecture weren't lobotomized for Microsoft's benifit by wasting clock cycles on that translation.
on how long it takes to get Linux on that thing?
I don't know about any of the rest of you, but I use galeon, and I tried a link, a bookmark and typing my own url. Each time returning to the page that suposedly demonstrates this exposure I got url=unknown.
quit yer karma whoring, they never have in the past. Modrators! Pay no attention to the karma whore with a reprint!
I've got a copy of TWOK. I'll let you watch it for $20
Ok, maybe so, but the categorization sucks. You can't lump Kahn in with Sybock (a gay vulcan), and Ru'Afo (a piece of drift wood).
But what does it matter? It took voyager 7 seasons to come up with only 3 plots. In my estimation we're ahead of the game here.
Seeing as how the Linux kernel replaces most of the functionality of the BIOS will setting any of these options really make a difference?
Any kernel developers out there care to chime in?
first post!
to see what the more childish among us do!
Sorry, my business has already standardized on Debian.
Big
Freaking
Deal
Ok, I came into this discussion late, but if you're using something other than IE just turn off JavaScript.
Happy surfing.
Basically I don't want government involved in security in the private sector. The private sector can handle security on it's own.
However, my *legal* concerns are about being labeled a criminal while my basic liberties are taken away to protect a fat corp's stash of gold.
So did someone else [wilwheaton.net] - scroll down...
*sniff*
2001-11-14 04:03:53 Wil Wheaton will be in Star Trek X (articles,movies) (rejected)
Sorry Wil, I beat you to it! The second you said it, I submitted it.
Ok, so I've never gotten first post on an article, but beating Wil Wheaton to his own story is just dang funny.
Do you work for AOL?
Ok, so at the very least AOL has included software that they claim to be theirs that is covered fully by the GPL and at the end the article says "it's up to the copyright holders". But they don't even give a list of the software that they found. How are the copyright holders suposed to know if /their/ code was stolen and put inside this box.
Now it's true that closed source programs can be written to run on top of GPL software (such as Netscape 4 running on Linux). But at the very least, according to the terms of the GPL since AOL is releasing this product, they also must include with it a copy of the GPL and make available the source code for the non proprietary code. Also, if they have changed any GPL code, they must GPL their changes.
I don't know how far this thing goes, but as far as I'm concerned, if AOL doesn't start getting in compliance that the FSF sues. Because of the terms of the GPL, and we have very probable cause to believe that AOL has violated those terms, if we in the Free Software movement push hard enough we can probably get the full source code for this entire box (including the so-called proprietary portions) disclosed at least in court so that it can be audited for GPL code.