Because I want to be able to pay somebody to fix it, I need the source.
Not in CTO-think you don't.
If you sell me a product that doesn't work for us, I expect *you* to fix it. It doesn't matter if the source is open or closed, because *you* have it either way. And if I throw enough $$$ at your company, you WILL put us at the top of your priority list, or we'll go to a different vendor.
There's too many potential points of failure if I buy software from one company, and then hire a different company to hack that software into doing what I need it to.
US tends to wage its war and then pack its bags and go home leaving a war ravaged country and its warlords to fight the rest of the war between themselves and their common enemies.
Post-WWII Japan says hi.
Why do you think they are far and away the most capitalistic of the Eastern countries?
The latest batch of MST3K DVDs to have been released have this feature. Or rather, they're double-sided DVD's with the original cut of the movie on one side and the MiSTed cut on the other.
Right now, in most places we still have a choice of formats: Windows Media, Real, streaming MP3, whatever. If everyone just mindlessly chooses the Real formats without a second thought, site operators are going to look at their logs and say "well, nobody is using the Windows Media/MP3/whatever formats, so let's just start webcasting exclusively in Real format." Do you want that to happen? I sure don't. We cannot afford to let RealNetworks monopolize this market. Think of the ramifications of RealNetworks having a 100 percent lock on digital content. Digital Rights Management? Easy... just put it in RealPlayer. Region lockouts? Put it in RealPlayer. Want to work around those problems? Sorry, you can't, because digital media is RealNetworks Media and you don't have any other choice!
That proves nothing. What if there are simple easter eggs in these binaries where that noted Microsoft developer and rock star, Ted Regent, snuck his name into the code?
Since they were hired by the Recording industry who holds all the copyrights in question, wouldn't they be stealing from themselves (on an organizational level)?
Despite what the RIAA would have you believe, the RIAA-affiliated companies do NOT hold the copyright to every MP3 that found its way onto the internet. I've got MP3's of music I wrote, recorded and encoded myself on my site, for example.
For those that are held by the RIAA -- common sense says that you can't steal something from yourself, but when has copyright law ever used common sense? Viz the lawsuits where a musician is sued by the copyright holder of some of their previous works, because the musician wrote a new song that sounds TOO MUCH LIKE THEMSELVES.
He WANTS to spread the meme that downloading music off the internet is illegal. If a warrant goes out for his arrest because he hired some people to commit the "crime" of downloading MP3's, then his point will have been made. Transferring an MP3 file between computers is not a criminal act -- UNLESS the recipient is not licensed to have a copy of that content.
His implication that the results of hiring 3 people to do nothing but get MP3's all day long for $12/hr plus lodging can be extrapolated to represent the behavior of "millions of students and other computer users" is, of course, ridiculous.
...potential to cause them more and more loss of profits... Something that they have the right to be annoyed about because this happens to be America a country known for its success with the Free Enterprise system.
You do know that "Free Enterprise" implies that the government does not put its hands in which companies can make money and which can't, right?
The MPAA has every right to be annoyed about their profits not growing as fast as they would like to.
They do NOT have the right to push legislation that gives their profits any king of legal protection.
The companies will surely argue in friend of the court briefs that giving them additional copyright time will cause them to keep old works in distribution, which is a public benefit. We'll have to see how this plays out.
Will cause? If that were true, we would have seen the benefits already from all the copyright extensions that have already been granted.
Instead, we get Disney commercials saying "Buy Cinderella on VHS and DVD now, because soon they're going back in the vault forever."
The above sentence contains only a tiny amount of exaggeration. It should be obvious to anyone that copyright is being manipulated not to benefit the public, but rather the profits of corporate copyright holders.
I tried running RedHat with KDE a little while ago. I couldn't figure out how to change my display resolution, so I formatted the disk and went back to Win98.
You and your "people only use MS systems because they need to conform" mentality can go fuck.
So what? I just leave the case off my PC most of the time, and it has the same general effect.:)
I wonder if it's possible to make translucent-clear printed circuit boards? I guess green is okay, and the occasional red-lacquer board you come acros is neat-looking, but I'd like to be able to look through a motherboard like looking through a frosted window...
Please raise your hand if you develop software for a living; that is, you support yourself and/or your family by developing software.
Now, keep your hand raised if you believe that your company could offer the same software that you helped to create as a free, open-source download and still keep you employed.
Finally, keep your hand raised if you think that being a developer actually gives you enough insight into the business practices of the company you work for that your belief in the viability of open-sourcing your product would actually be valid.
I don't disagree that a market for commercial open-source software can exist. But I have serious doubts about the likelihood of that market being built by converting existing closed-source projects.
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Um, writing code is a service. Therefore if you write code you should be allowed to expect compensation for it.
Because I want to be able to pay somebody to fix it, I need the source.
Not in CTO-think you don't.
If you sell me a product that doesn't work for us, I expect *you* to fix it. It doesn't matter if the source is open or closed, because *you* have it either way. And if I throw enough $$$ at your company, you WILL put us at the top of your priority list, or we'll go to a different vendor.
There's too many potential points of failure if I buy software from one company, and then hire a different company to hack that software into doing what I need it to.
US tends to wage its war and then pack its bags and go home leaving a war ravaged country and its warlords to fight the rest of the war between themselves and their common enemies.
Post-WWII Japan says hi.
Why do you think they are far and away the most capitalistic of the Eastern countries?
The latest batch of MST3K DVDs to have been released have this feature. Or rather, they're double-sided DVD's with the original cut of the movie on one side and the MiSTed cut on the other.
Right now, in most places we still have a choice of formats: Windows Media, Real, streaming MP3, whatever. If everyone just mindlessly chooses the Real formats without a second thought, site operators are going to look at their logs and say "well, nobody is using the Windows Media/MP3/whatever formats, so let's just start webcasting exclusively in Real format." Do you want that to happen? I sure don't. We cannot afford to let RealNetworks monopolize this market. Think of the ramifications of RealNetworks having a 100 percent lock on digital content. Digital Rights Management? Easy... just put it in RealPlayer. Region lockouts? Put it in RealPlayer. Want to work around those problems? Sorry, you can't, because digital media is RealNetworks Media and you don't have any other choice!
Um, since when are judges able to prescribe lithium?
Those. clowns. in. Congress. did. it. again.
What. a. bunch. of. clowns.
I know this is something that's not really going to sound right, but "rape" is the best word I can think of to describe this.
I'd use the term "assault and battery" myself.
If you're taken into a room for a strip search, and you come out bleeding, then someone broke the law.
[path...] /WINNT/system32 $ grep -i regent *.EXE
Binary file FINGER.EXE matches
Binary file FTP.EXE matches
Binary file RCP.EXE matches
Binary file RSH.EXE matches
That proves nothing. What if there are simple easter eggs in these binaries where that noted Microsoft developer and rock star, Ted Regent, snuck his name into the code?
But how are you going to watch it on a Linux box???
My question is, how'd he get all the musicians onto the hook?
...oh, that was the RUBBER band. My mistake.
Yes, "WarGames" and its ilk were technically accurate to a much greater degree than more recent movies like "Mission: Impossible"...
Uh-oh, the Sarcasm Alert has hit DEFCON 5!
What's the big deal here?
Couldn't you do the same thing by ripping apart a "rumble pack" and applying the input voltage to your hand instead of to the electric motor?
(With sufficient tweaking to deliver a painful, non-lethal shock of course)
Since they were hired by the Recording industry who holds all the copyrights in question, wouldn't they be stealing from themselves (on an organizational level)?
Despite what the RIAA would have you believe, the RIAA-affiliated companies do NOT hold the copyright to every MP3 that found its way onto the internet. I've got MP3's of music I wrote, recorded and encoded myself on my site, for example.
For those that are held by the RIAA -- common sense says that you can't steal something from yourself, but when has copyright law ever used common sense? Viz the lawsuits where a musician is sued by the copyright holder of some of their previous works, because the musician wrote a new song that sounds TOO MUCH LIKE THEMSELVES.
He WANTS to spread the meme that downloading music off the internet is illegal. If a warrant goes out for his arrest because he hired some people to commit the "crime" of downloading MP3's, then his point will have been made. Transferring an MP3 file between computers is not a criminal act -- UNLESS the recipient is not licensed to have a copy of that content.
His implication that the results of hiring 3 people to do nothing but get MP3's all day long for $12/hr plus lodging can be extrapolated to represent the behavior of "millions of students and other computer users" is, of course, ridiculous.
We should outlaw *specific purpose tools* -- programs which have only one or two functions which allow the user to break laws.
You mean like DeCSS?
You mean like Elcomsoft's eBook cracker?
...potential to cause them more and more loss of profits ... Something that they have the right to be annoyed about because this happens to be America a country known for its success with the Free Enterprise system.
You do know that "Free Enterprise" implies that the government does not put its hands in which companies can make money and which can't, right?
The MPAA has every right to be annoyed about their profits not growing as fast as they would like to.
They do NOT have the right to push legislation that gives their profits any king of legal protection.
If you base your understanding of United States intellectual property policy on things people have posted to Slashdot, you're a damned fool.
The companies will surely argue in friend of the court briefs that giving them additional copyright time will cause them to keep old works in distribution, which is a public benefit. We'll have to see how this plays out.
Will cause? If that were true, we would have seen the benefits already from all the copyright extensions that have already been granted.
Instead, we get Disney commercials saying "Buy Cinderella on VHS and DVD now, because soon they're going back in the vault forever."
The above sentence contains only a tiny amount of exaggeration. It should be obvious to anyone that copyright is being manipulated not to benefit the public, but rather the profits of corporate copyright holders.
I tried running RedHat with KDE a little while ago. I couldn't figure out how to change my display resolution, so I formatted the disk and went back to Win98.
You and your "people only use MS systems because they need to conform" mentality can go fuck.
I don't see a problem with that -- it'll help the police determine who the rioters are and who the innocent, peaceful, gooey protestors are.
Photographs can be taken of the escaping hooligans and constables sent 'round their places to pick them up later.
Maybe the solution is to disperse after they fire about the fifth can of tear gas at you...
How the hell do you break bones by falling down ON A LAWN?
In my younger days I took many a spill upon the grass and dirt, and I never even broke a pinky.
So what? I just leave the case off my PC most of the time, and it has the same general effect.
I wonder if it's possible to make translucent-clear printed circuit boards? I guess green is okay, and the occasional red-lacquer board you come acros is neat-looking, but I'd like to be able to look through a motherboard like looking through a frosted window...
Please raise your hand if you develop software for a living; that is, you support yourself and/or your family by developing software.
Now, keep your hand raised if you believe that your company could offer the same software that you helped to create as a free, open-source download and still keep you employed.
Finally, keep your hand raised if you think that being a developer actually gives you enough insight into the business practices of the company you work for that your belief in the viability of open-sourcing your product would actually be valid.
I don't disagree that a market for commercial open-source software can exist. But I have serious doubts about the likelihood of that market being built by converting existing closed-source projects.