Agreed. Encouraging useful conversation is better than wasting mod points on trolls and spammers who have the ability to make 3 posts for every one that gets modded down.
Better yet, don't even bother visiting. Third-world places are best shunned.
That's an extremely ignorant comment. RMS has been to Argentina (and around Latin America) plenty of times without any problems. Shit happens. And it can happen in your beloved first-world New York too.
Fuck condescending comments about the third world.
See why I always tell you that to avoid whiplash, don't look at the parties in litigation and decide who you like, but anaylze the issues involved and plant your flag accordingly? Hence, here we are, on the same side of this issue, Groklaw and Oracle. Who'd-a thunk it last week?
No matter what your answer is, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to lay the blame on you for not holding authorities accountable.
The only way to avoid this argument is for you to claim you agree with everything the authorities do. In that case, I'd realize the conversation is pointless.
You're saying there was no such requirement for proofs back a year ago? No verification process?
I can't say either way right now but I suspect there was. Since there was a change of rules (from mod verification) to place proof in post in august 2011 (after you posted). But it still seems like there was a form of verification.
That said, you're right about the specific rules I quoted you. They DO NOT apply to your post.
I'm sorry but I just have to call bullshit on that argument.
I just quoted you the rules of that subreddit. If you choose not to follow them. You accept the consequences.
So if I am the one that has a burden of proof, I assume you mean that the people calling me a liar do not need any proof ?
Not exactly but close. One side doesn't need to demonstrate anything and can healthily assume you're fake until you prove it. That's how it works.
Again - if this is the case, it is indeed a problem.
No, It's not a problem. It's a measure against hoaxes and trolls and it works. It also adds legitimacy to the posts that are true.
You're attacking reddit for a completely false expectation of how it's supposed to work and a disregard of its rules. And it certainly doesn't help when you exaggerate the reaction as if it had been a persecution.
did involve a lack of proper proof? Because that subreddit, after being burned plenty of times, explicitly encourages demands of proof or else, downvoting the thread to prevent hoaxes.
You must provide proof of your identity in the body of your post when you submit your IAmA
If your identity is absolutely confidential, you may message proof to the mods
If your post is suspected fake and you do not verify proof, it may be subject to removal
It seems to be more complex than just being called a liar for one post.
And I see an alarming rate of exxageration in many things you post:
I posted (by request) some truths - was quickly lynched by several thousand users, branded a liar and a troll and forced out of the community.
(444|108) = 336 votes Top Comment.
The liar and troll part doesn't seem to come exclusively from that post but from a series of posts in australian subreddits in addition to that last iama.
And anyone with a healthy dose of skepticism would react adversely to everything you say in the end:
Where I am now
Pretty much friendless and for ever alone, and no prospect of that changing
Pretty much penniless, as my previous attempts at creativity failed costing me money.
I spend 99% of my week in a room where I work, sleep, eat and play WoW sometimes (mostly solo because of the condition).
Looking at a future which has no hope of getting better, and trying to stave off suicidal thoughts long enough to maybe win the lotto and enable my creativity to flourish again.
Feel free to ask questions, but remember - because I imprint - I respond in kind, I can't help that. In advance I appreciate your comments, even if it seems that I might not.
What I'm trying to say is. Regardless of the veracity of your statements. You have the burden of proof.
I assume that, given the widespread public knowledge of TPB's website, it disrupts people who are used to it being their only torrent search mechanism.
Slashdot Mirror
I don't think the comparison should be first world vs third world. It should just be Your time vs the scammer's time.
No matter where you are, unless you classify it is as leisure (like Slashdot :P), this is a waste.
Agreed. Encouraging useful conversation is better than wasting mod points on trolls and spammers who have the ability to make 3 posts for every one that gets modded down.
But if you surf exactly like you always do you're not going to use tor efficiently.
Tor full list of warnings
Wait a couple of months and they start having postural problems, injuries due to muscle atrophication, lack of circulation, etc, etc.. :P
The Europa Universalis series might be for you (And they tell me that Hearts of Iron series are quite similar in a WW2 Setting)
The thing with reddit is that it can be tailored to your interests. Specially when you focus on small sized subreddits.
The majority vote system has its pros and cons but it's all around a very good site.
He was going well until he said:
That's an extremely ignorant comment. RMS has been to Argentina (and around Latin America) plenty of times without any problems. Shit happens. And it can happen in your beloved first-world New York too.
Fuck condescending comments about the third world.
virtual +1 Well said.
Patents are supposed to be inventive. What the fuck is up with the Patents Office over there?
From the groklaw article.
Pirate Bay tied to terrorism.
Terrorist have been using cyber-weapons on the internet, the same medium used by the Pirate Bay to distribute files.
But not all the obligations.
If I'm not mistaken, there was a ruling, not long ago, that prevented corporations for being held liable for crimes against humanity.
Because the whole world is either European or American. Funny considering the subject deals with New Zealand.
Where do you live?
No matter what your answer is, I'm pretty sure I'll be able to lay the blame on you for not holding authorities accountable.
The only way to avoid this argument is for you to claim you agree with everything the authorities do. In that case, I'd realize the conversation is pointless.
You're saying there was no such requirement for proofs back a year ago? No verification process?
I can't say either way right now but I suspect there was. Since there was a change of rules (from mod verification) to place proof in post in august 2011 (after you posted). But it still seems like there was a form of verification.
That said, you're right about the specific rules I quoted you. They DO NOT apply to your post.
I'll look it up later.
I'm sorry but I just have to call bullshit on that argument.
I just quoted you the rules of that subreddit. If you choose not to follow them. You accept the consequences.
Not exactly but close. One side doesn't need to demonstrate anything and can healthily assume you're fake until you prove it. That's how it works.
No, It's not a problem. It's a measure against hoaxes and trolls and it works. It also adds legitimacy to the posts that are true.
You're attacking reddit for a completely false expectation of how it's supposed to work and a disregard of its rules. And it certainly doesn't help when you exaggerate the reaction as if it had been a persecution.
did involve a lack of proper proof? Because that subreddit, after being burned plenty of times, explicitly encourages demands of proof or else, downvoting the thread to prevent hoaxes.
This is apparently the post you're referring to.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/fqck0/iama_person_with_alexithymia/
It seems to be more complex than just being called a liar for one post.
And I see an alarming rate of exxageration in many things you post:
(444|108) = 336 votes Top Comment.
The liar and troll part doesn't seem to come exclusively from that post but from a series of posts in australian subreddits in addition to that last iama.
And anyone with a healthy dose of skepticism would react adversely to everything you say in the end:
What I'm trying to say is. Regardless of the veracity of your statements. You have the burden of proof.
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X just added Y. Don't you know Y? Add Y!
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second AC I read that says this. I'd be cool if you provided examples so as to validate your anonymous claims a bit better.
link? subreddit? username? anything to support your claim? moderators who banned you? Actions you took after it?
mmm. I thought AC was being sarcastic. It scares me a little that he might be serious.
I assume that, given the widespread public knowledge of TPB's website, it disrupts people who are used to it being their only torrent search mechanism.
Every computer is a linux computer. You just have to set it up.
For the same reason the memory lie gets touted by people who dislike firefox: Rationalizations to excuse subjective choices.
The real question is... how and why are we comparing an open source (AFAIK) operative system and a hardware/OS Company?