Who needs a $50,000 luxury car? Who needs a hummer? Who needs a sports car that can do 150 mph? Who needs to spend $25,000 on aftermarket parts?
Cars make the best parallels here but you can do this for a lot of other industries. Some people want the biggest, best, fastest, and most powerful. For some people its about material possessions, others its about showing off, others its insecurity.
The bottom line is that people with money are willing to part with it by buying hugely expensive things that they don't need, and therefore there will be people that recognize the market.
Why the poster even made mention of it was probably rhetorical but from the early posts a lot of people are taking it way too seriously.
No one needs those things, but I, for one, am glad we have them. Seeing someone with a Hummer or a Civic with more spent aftermarket than on the car is a no-fail way to spot an idiot. It saves us having to go around stamping idiot on their foreheads to warn others.
Not to nitpick, but I think you probably have an unusual idea of what's "very good" if you could make it happen for under $600. I don't think it takes $5000, or even $2000, but I don't think I'd be able to play anything I'd want to play at resolutions and color depths I'm interested in seeing for so little green. Heck, just a "very good" (not the best) video card will run you most of $300. (Merely adequate ones can of course be had for less.)
Please, you can get a Radeon 9800 Pro for under $200 and it's great for the games out now (and those coming out). The 9800 XT for $200 more is only a small step up speedwise... not worth twice the price. The new x800 offers a good speed boost for $360, but it's overkill for most every game (unless you absolutely NEED to play UT2k4 at 1600x1200 with 4xAA and 8xAF)
If you're even thinking abou getting one, please just go get it out of your system. Walk into the store. Enter in OMGWTFBBQ. Spin it around. Watch the reactions. Get bored. Leave.
In theory you are correct. In practice all ISP's will not simultaneously commence paid spamhaus subscription and increase their fees. I would imagine that some ISP's may use this, either globally or as a premium value added service. Unless you are in a monopolistic market you will be free to choose a spamhaus-free (either lacking or only free zone transfers) ISP and it's assosciated lower costs.
Even then a lot of businesses may actually save money through reducing bandwidth costs due to spam. I hope they don't force those savings onto you...:)
Good points. Using the Spamhaus XBL and SBL actually saves a decent-sized ISP more than its cost in a given year in bandwidth, storage and CPU cycles.
Additionally Spamhaus is letting operators of free DNSBL mirrors continue the Zone Transfer for free. Perhaps additional ISPs will be given the option of getting the Zone Transfer for free in exchange for setting up another public mirror.
hope this doesn't divert quality OSS developers from truly useful products.
ps: does this source code come with the all-important built-in hooks to gator?
Shareaza is a decent multi-protocol P2P program for Windows. It's BitTorrent and Gnutella handling is a bit borked, but hopefully open-sourcing it will help. And it's one of the P2P apps that never included spyware.
Looks like Marc has a great handle on things, as usual. And it's just another reason why I love JBoss' stuff so much. I've even mentioned them in my will and offered up my first-born. Oh, and I'm just a user of JBoss' stuff. Not an employee. THIS IS REAL!
It's a tour of an abandoned missile silo. Pretty kool. Don't try this at home (well unless your home IS a missile silo).
If you'd like to see a silo without the health (and legal) risks... and learn a bit, check out the Titan Missile Museum in Tucson, Arizona (Museum Photo Tour.) Quite impressive. I went last year. Even got to press the button, which was a bit unsettling.
Actually, the reason it took THIS friggin long to come to this decision was the resistance on the part of Intel in the US to fully accept the design of this chip by Intel in Israel. Apparently, there was quite a bit of "not invented here" mindset on the part of the US Intel folks, even though it was still Intel that created the Pentium M... just in Israel.
I can't find any info regarding this online at the moment, but I did get this information from a reliable source. Anyone else read this?
I am like the ice cream man...
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... but with no music ... and with wireless internet service instead of ice cream ... and with a bike instead of a truck ... and it's free instead of costing money ... and I'm really more of a boy, not a man
... come to think of it, I'm nothing like the ice cream man at all... I was just talking outta my ass.
Hotmail's filtering is notorious for dropping real email. They even drop transactional email (ie... you buy something from ABC, ABC sends you a confirmation of the order, Hotmail considers it spam).
Years ago I setup a Freeserve account which allows me to receive email to anything@myaccountname.freeserve.co.uk
Whenever I need to put my email address somewhere public (i.e. mailing lists and websites) I make up a new email address of the form mailinglistname@myaccountname.freeserve.co.uk or websitename@myaccountname.freeserve.co.uk e.g. the email address I gave slashdot is slashdot.org@myaccountname.freeserve.co.uk
This will work great... right up until the point that your domain is subject to a dictionary attack by a spammer. You'll suddenly see your spam load go through the roof. And you won't be able to setup filters for each new iteration fast enough. And if it's your own server or you pay for bandwidth, your costs just keep rising.
You're better off creating real aliases for each new account and letting the server respond with a 550 invalid user for all others.
If you haven't been dictionary attacked yet... just wait... it'll happen... sooner or later.
It doesn't display any results, but clearly it does find them. Look at the bottom and you can still jump to all the blank pages that would contain results (warez "returns" 11 pages).
Actually, those links are for the 11 pages of Book Results. The web results for warez are completely hidden, and Google has far more than 11 pages worth.
We've had maybe 10 spam complaints in 5 years, and in all 10 cases we had the date, time, and IP address from which the user signed up for the list. Despite the fact that we can prove when and where they signed up for the list, those complaints + our mail volume is enough to get us blacklisted.
Are you using confirmed opt-in? I had another prospective client claim they were and that they had the records, even though all they were doing was keeping the date, time and IP of the initial signup without sending a confirmation email requiring a click of a URL with a unique ID in it. It coulda been some random hax0r in a China that signed the email address up in their case.
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I'm a commercial bulk emailer. We've wanted to do something like this for a while but always got scared off by liability issues.
This is a brilliant solution because the one thing we're always short of (even as legal bulk emailers) is IP blocks that aren't blacklisted **SNIP**
Except for the fact that *legitimate* "commercial bulk email" uses confirmed opt-in (note that I didn't say "double opt-in", a term used by spammers to imply that it's somehow extra work), has a simple and effective unsubscribe process, never purchases or rents lists, never assumes permission to do anything (email, phone, physical mail, etc), provides something of real value (weekly commentary newsletter, real sales specials, etc), and doesn't send it out too often. I have colleagues that support companies with thousands subscribed to weekly newsletters and the like (industry commentary, etc) which they send directly from their own mail server and they've never been on an RBL or had a spam complaint.
As with all products, no matter who makes them, you should probably buy a warranty if none is provided. Fortuantly, all Apple hardware products come with a one-year limited warranty against defects. So before you flame, remember that your product is probably in warranty, and that Apple would be more than happy to replace it because they desire your business.
...and happy to sell you a new one to replace the flawed one when the warranty runs out. Disposable electronics. And it certainly isn't exclusive to Apple.
These types of solder joints seem *designed* to fail after a given period of time (post warranty) so the purchaser is forced to go buy another one.
I'm amazed that his consistant lies and illegal activities haven't caught up with him yet:
His messages are opt-in (they are not)
People WANT to receive it (they don't)
He abides by CAN-SPAM (he doesn't... and his OptInRealBig bots are consistantly harvesting the subscribe address to a listserv I'm on, which is a federal crime, and subscribing themselves to the list)
Heck, I have one client that gets 20 spams a day (to a single account, harvested from the website, of course) just from OptInRealBig.
The Google Zeitgeist shows their current visitor breakdown as a graph. It isn't labeled, but by breaking it down and determining which pixel the lines fall on at the end, the percentages look like this:
Internet Explorer (5/5.5/6): 89% Mozilla/Netscape (5/6/7): 5% Unknown/Other: 6%
Problem: if you have a gun and the thief is unarmed you are the one they send to pound me in the ass prison. Even if they are armed you have to be SURE they are going to physically hurt you or your family or you are required to just watch them walk off with your shit. Touch them and you get charged with assault. Set traps and that is a another whole world of shit altogether. And lets not forget YOU are held liable if the thieves steal your gun and then use it in a crime. IANAL, and laws do vary from state to state and country to country, but, in general, you can be sure you are in the clear by yelling the following immediately prior to shooting: IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!
Yes, but AFAIK, none of those stores actually *HAVE* any.
Actually, the Circuit City stores in NYC I checked have the AMD64 Compaq desktop in stock. And Best Buy in NJ has the AMD64 eMachines desktop in stock.
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Who needs a $50,000 luxury car?
Who needs a hummer?
Who needs a sports car that can do 150 mph?
Who needs to spend $25,000 on aftermarket parts?
Cars make the best parallels here but you can do this for a lot of other industries. Some people want the biggest, best, fastest, and most powerful. For some people its about material possessions, others its about showing off, others its insecurity.
The bottom line is that people with money are willing to part with it by buying hugely expensive things that they don't need, and therefore there will be people that recognize the market.
Why the poster even made mention of it was probably rhetorical but from the early posts a lot of people are taking it way too seriously.
No one needs those things, but I, for one, am glad we have them. Seeing someone with a Hummer or a Civic with more spent aftermarket than on the car is a no-fail way to spot an idiot. It saves us having to go around stamping idiot on their foreheads to warn others.
Not to nitpick, but I think you probably have an unusual idea of what's "very good" if you could make it happen for under $600. I don't think it takes $5000, or even $2000, but I don't think I'd be able to play anything I'd want to play at resolutions and color depths I'm interested in seeing for so little green. Heck, just a "very good" (not the best) video card will run you most of $300. (Merely adequate ones can of course be had for less.)
Please, you can get a Radeon 9800 Pro for under $200 and it's great for the games out now (and those coming out). The 9800 XT for $200 more is only a small step up speedwise... not worth twice the price. The new x800 offers a good speed boost for $360, but it's overkill for most every game (unless you absolutely NEED to play UT2k4 at 1600x1200 with 4xAA and 8xAF)
If you're even thinking abou getting one, please just go get it out of your system. Walk into the store. Enter in OMGWTFBBQ. Spin it around. Watch the reactions. Get bored. Leave.
In theory you are correct. In practice all ISP's will not simultaneously commence paid spamhaus subscription and increase their fees. I would imagine that some ISP's may use this, either globally or as a premium value added service. Unless you are in a monopolistic market you will be free to choose a spamhaus-free (either lacking or only free zone transfers) ISP and it's assosciated lower costs.
:)
Even then a lot of businesses may actually save money through reducing bandwidth costs due to spam. I hope they don't force those savings onto you...
Good points. Using the Spamhaus XBL and SBL actually saves a decent-sized ISP more than its cost in a given year in bandwidth, storage and CPU cycles.
Additionally Spamhaus is letting operators of free DNSBL mirrors continue the Zone Transfer for free. Perhaps additional ISPs will be given the option of getting the Zone Transfer for free in exchange for setting up another public mirror.
YAP2P?
hope this doesn't divert quality OSS developers from truly useful products.
ps: does this source code come with the all-important built-in hooks to gator?
Shareaza is a decent multi-protocol P2P program for Windows. It's BitTorrent and Gnutella handling is a bit borked, but hopefully open-sourcing it will help. And it's one of the P2P apps that never included spyware.
Looks like Marc has a great handle on things, as usual. And it's just another reason why I love JBoss' stuff so much. I've even mentioned them in my will and offered up my first-born. Oh, and I'm just a user of JBoss' stuff. Not an employee. THIS IS REAL!
I agree, whole-heartedly!
- Marc Fl^H^H Smith
Sometimes (almost never, but sometimes) Flash is worth seeing.
Yes, sometimes it is. But for the rest of it, AdBlock rocks.
It's a tour of an abandoned missile silo. Pretty kool. Don't try this at home (well unless your home IS a missile silo).
If you'd like to see a silo without the health (and legal) risks... and learn a bit, check out the Titan Missile Museum in Tucson, Arizona (Museum Photo Tour.) Quite impressive. I went last year. Even got to press the button, which was a bit unsettling.
Actually, the reason it took THIS friggin long to come to this decision was the resistance on the part of Intel in the US to fully accept the design of this chip by Intel in Israel. Apparently, there was quite a bit of "not invented here" mindset on the part of the US Intel folks, even though it was still Intel that created the Pentium M... just in Israel.
I can't find any info regarding this online at the moment, but I did get this information from a reliable source. Anyone else read this?
... but with no music
... and with wireless internet service instead of ice cream
... and with a bike instead of a truck
... and it's free instead of costing money
... and I'm really more of a boy, not a man
... come to think of it, I'm nothing like the ice cream man at all... I was just talking outta my ass.
The guy copied the same damn links that are in the parent.
Moderators note: This comment applied to a now -1 comment, not the parent it looks like it is in response to now.
Hotmail's filtering is notorious for dropping real email. They even drop transactional email (ie... you buy something from ABC, ABC sends you a confirmation of the order, Hotmail considers it spam).
Years ago I setup a Freeserve account which allows me to receive email to anything@myaccountname.freeserve.co.uk
Whenever I need to put my email address somewhere public (i.e. mailing lists and websites) I make up a new email address of the form mailinglistname@myaccountname.freeserve.co.uk or websitename@myaccountname.freeserve.co.uk e.g. the email address I gave slashdot is slashdot.org@myaccountname.freeserve.co.uk
This will work great... right up until the point that your domain is subject to a dictionary attack by a spammer. You'll suddenly see your spam load go through the roof. And you won't be able to setup filters for each new iteration fast enough. And if it's your own server or you pay for bandwidth, your costs just keep rising.
You're better off creating real aliases for each new account and letting the server respond with a 550 invalid user for all others.
If you haven't been dictionary attacked yet... just wait... it'll happen... sooner or later.
It doesn't display any results, but clearly it does find them. Look at the bottom and you can still jump to all the blank pages that would contain results (warez "returns" 11 pages).
Actually, those links are for the 11 pages of Book Results. The web results for warez are completely hidden, and Google has far more than 11 pages worth.
We've had maybe 10 spam complaints in 5 years, and in all 10 cases we had the date, time, and IP address from which the user signed up for the list. Despite the fact that we can prove when and where they signed up for the list, those complaints + our mail volume is enough to get us blacklisted.
Are you using confirmed opt-in? I had another prospective client claim they were and that they had the records, even though all they were doing was keeping the date, time and IP of the initial signup without sending a confirmation email requiring a click of a URL with a unique ID in it. It coulda been some random hax0r in a China that signed the email address up in their case.
I'm a commercial bulk emailer. We've wanted to do something like this for a while but always got scared off by liability issues.
This is a brilliant solution because the one thing we're always short of (even as legal bulk emailers) is IP blocks that aren't blacklisted **SNIP**
Except for the fact that *legitimate* "commercial bulk email" uses confirmed opt-in (note that I didn't say "double opt-in", a term used by spammers to imply that it's somehow extra work), has a simple and effective unsubscribe process, never purchases or rents lists, never assumes permission to do anything (email, phone, physical mail, etc), provides something of real value (weekly commentary newsletter, real sales specials, etc), and doesn't send it out too often. I have colleagues that support companies with thousands subscribed to weekly newsletters and the like (industry commentary, etc) which they send directly from their own mail server and they've never been on an RBL or had a spam complaint.
As with all products, no matter who makes them, you should probably buy a warranty if none is provided. Fortuantly, all Apple hardware products come with a one-year limited warranty against defects. So before you flame, remember that your product is probably in warranty, and that Apple would be more than happy to replace it because they desire your business.
...and happy to sell you a new one to replace the flawed one when the warranty runs out. Disposable electronics. And it certainly isn't exclusive to Apple.
These types of solder joints seem *designed* to fail after a given period of time (post warranty) so the purchaser is forced to go buy another one.
I'm amazed that his consistant lies and illegal activities haven't caught up with him yet:
Heck, I have one client that gets 20 spams a day (to a single account, harvested from the website, of course) just from OptInRealBig.
You're new here, aren't you?
They've already done it. .biz was already in use when ICANN adopted it.
Yup, and biztld bitched about it when they did it. Despite the fact that only "over 1000" suckers bought into it between 1996 and 2000.
I say we just memorize IP addresses from now on. From "Hey, run a Google on him." to "Hey, run a 24.175.19.234 on him."
And with IPv6 it will be even easier:
Is someone using this product name? Let's 3ffe:abcd:1234:9876::d8ef:3364 it.
The Google Zeitgeist shows their current visitor breakdown as a graph. It isn't labeled, but by breaking it down and determining which pixel the lines fall on at the end, the percentages look like this:
Internet Explorer (5/5.5/6): 89%
Mozilla/Netscape (5/6/7): 5%
Unknown/Other: 6%
Well having to pay is one thing, but incoming SMS isn't usually (ever?) charged to the recipient.
With Verizon Wireless in the US, the sender pays $.10 and the recipient pays $.02.
Problem: if you have a gun and the thief is unarmed you are the one they send to pound me in the ass prison. Even if they are armed you have to be SURE they are going to physically hurt you or your family or you are required to just watch them walk off with your shit. Touch them and you get charged with assault. Set traps and that is a another whole world of shit altogether. And lets not forget YOU are held liable if the thieves steal your gun and then use it in a crime.
IANAL, and laws do vary from state to state and country to country, but, in general, you can be sure you are in the clear by yelling the following immediately prior to shooting: IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!!
Yes, but AFAIK, none of those stores actually *HAVE* any.
Actually, the Circuit City stores in NYC I checked have the AMD64 Compaq desktop in stock. And Best Buy in NJ has the AMD64 eMachines desktop in stock.