You are not the only one who doesn't like the Over-Clocking stuff, but I was quite interested in the Water Cooling kit.
I have a dual-Athlon MP system which has 4 fans in it:
1 fan to inject air into the chassis (front) 1 fan to eject air from the chassis (back) and 1 fan for each CPU.
The system makes a lot of noise, and if you were to look at the Thermaltake kit you'll find that it is not designed to be an overclocking kit at all, in fact it's benchmarks did not beat fan comparisons at all.
Unfortunately I'm still waiting for a 2 Cpu kit, so that I don't have to mess about finding a 2nd Waterblock and extra tubing for my CPUs and then worrying about whether the water pump / radiator is inadequate for cooling two CPUs...
Even more unfortunate is that none of the Kit Manufacturers I have seen so far cater for dual CPU systems, which to me seems to be a niche in the market where Water Cooling would provide a great advantage in reducing noise levels and/or for the overclocking enthusiast.
It's all very much like what everyone else is saying.
You didn't mention whether you were paid for your services?
I once did some voluntary work for 6 months for a charity, once the term ended they lost some of their accounts data and gave me a call to see whether I could fix it for them, I said sure, I'll pop into their office and take a look. It was a pretty trivial problem, they had lost a disk and needed to restore from backup. I installed their accounts software on another system and grabbed the data from Backup - about 30 minutes work.
I didn't expect payment, but they gave me a small sum which certainly covered my expenses and time.
These days I would never consider doing free-work for a company which previously paid me.
You also didn't state how you left your ex-employer, whether you handed in your notice, got fired or were made redundant. From the fact that you are currently unemployed I assume that you involuntarily left your job. While going back there to fix their mess may give you a short term "last laugh" in the matter, you should certainly proceed to try to get payment for your work.
And if they didn't ask you nicely you should really tell have told them where to go and have referred them to an active LAN/WAN consultant who should charge in the region of $900 a day and probably take 3 days to fix the problem as they won't have any experience with that particular company's setup.
Have to say, Linux kernel releases have never really lived up to their word... I seem to remember Linus talking about "release often, release early", but that actually turned into a pile of crap.... we waiting eons for 2.4...
While what you say is very true, and commendations to your efforts for all these years, you will find that most computer veterans have not used a BBS for ten years or so. Until recently I hadn't logged into a talker for well on ten years, but I did again just to experience the old nostalgia.
The good times were when BBSs were new and cutting edge, which, I'm afraid, they no longer are.
I do like your comment about the sense of a cohesive online community - that is so true and really cannot be disputed.
To draw an analogy: BBSs and Talkers are however, caves, generally small sites hosting 30-100 concurrent connections, compare that to the cities of IRC or web-based chat forums hosted by yahoo.com and the like.
Some of the best places to go are the hardest to get to.
In the dark distant past, prior to IRC, WWW (We had Gopher though!!) - I frequented talkers such as Cheeseplants house, usually accessed by telnet on a high port, like a MUD.
I was intrigued whether there was any record of the talkers on the net and here is some of what I came up with:
I noticed that crazylands acutally ran a talker so I connected to see who would be online. Pity though, only 2 people were there. The strangest thing was that Grim, who I remember from Cheeseplant's house in 1991 was actually still online!!! what a spod! (we chatted for a while, then I got idle). I found another, although the name goes away, which had a few more people online, but none of the ones from before.
I look back as this being the golden age of the Internet, back in the days before AOL, while so much has changed, it's actually interesting to see that the smaller communities still exist down there in the talker underground.
Your company actually has people looking after physical security? (non-guard).
How many people work for said company?
My understanding is that in most companies less than 4000 employees worldwide there isn't really any physical security, except perhaps a "Facilities Manager" and a load of useless "Security Guards".
"The PIX OS requires no activation key. You do need to purchase a key to enable 3DES for VPN. The DES functionality is free."
You are partially correct. PIX, however, do require activation keys for all their functionality.
The activation key (non-DES/3DES) comes preset in the 16Mb Flash card that you need to build this clone.
Incidentally, you may be able to get some support as a purchase of a replacement flash card gives you a new Cisco S/N for your PIX (when purchased as an upgrade to an old 520 for instance).
And last time I checked Cisco were issuing DES activation keys for free as long as you gave them a Cisco S/N, which you have on your 16Mb Flash Card.
Has anyone noticed that Windows XP doesn't allow you to set the year past 2099?
I know that it's a lot further off, and unlikely to "make" people upgrade, but would you think twice about buying software that "May not function correctly after year x"?
Programmers & Companies have always designed limitations in software in the hope that they'll need to be replaced with updated versions.
#!/bin/bash # # CGI-McPanic: script to crash MacOS X with # concurrent calls to a CGI-Script # # before use, do: # # chmod a+x/Local/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/test-cgi # # then call # # bash./CGI-McPanic #
NUMPROC=32 i=0
while [ $i -le $NUMPROC ] do
i=$[$i + 1]
ab -t 3600 http://localhost/cgi-bin/test-cgi & done
If it is for fun, do it. If it is to save money, don't.
I generally do it for fun. However, in my last rebuild, I was pretty much forced to do it. I wanted a dual-processor system and while I wasn't going to allow anyone build my first SMP box on my behalf I also would have been stressed to find an experienced supplier prepared to build such a system.
The price mark-up (of pre-built systems) in this niche market is still relatively higher than that on the budget market. Possibly due to Intel's hold on the SMP market and the cost of SMP chipsets. For that reason, building your own can save you money
Anyway, I'm very happy with the system which I'm typing on now, whilst ripping a DVD:-).
[Obligatory] Here are the quick specs:
Asus A7M266-D MPX Motherboard 2 x Athlon MP 1600+ 512Mb Crucial ECC Ram Intel 82559 10/100 Ethernet noname GeFroce 4 MX440 Video Enermax PSU
All the other parts for this system were salvaged from previous builds, which I'm sure anyone who has gone through a few rebuilds and upgrades has a large abundance of spare cables, screws, CD-ROM drives, floppy drives etc...
I went with the two MP 1600+ knowing that the higher spec MP cpus are sure to come down in price eventually so it leaves room for a suitable upgrade in the future. 64-bit PCI slots also leave room for an eventual upgrade to high-performance SCSI.
Some may say that getting a Dual-Proc system for a desktop or workstation is overkill, but once you've experienced the difference I don't think you'll look back. Not only does DVD ripping work a treat, but single-threaded applications can no longer hang the system (an age-old Windows problem).
Someone also stated that this box was overkill - well - of course it is, this is the computer equivalent to the concept car - they never make production, but they push the limits of our imagination and prepare us for the future. Who was it that said: w640 kilobytes is more than enough memory?
Tough... I'm doing it right now, simply because it's the only place that let me log in and do the download as well as probably being the only place that actually has the ISO image in full (from what I've heard).
If we had a good P2P protocol we might be able to more efficiently handle the Slackware new release distribution problems that seem to occur all the time.
The fact that I am only getting 5kBytes a second tells me that am not alone...
Let me explain why the parent post is both humorous and insightfull. This post is a reply to the statement Cheers to the slackware developers. (note the s ) Most Slackware users know that the Slackware distro is very much a one man show: "Patrick Volkerding". see this [slackware.com] and you'll note that the rest of the team works on ports, the website, etc. but not the distro.
The above poster saw an opportuinity to correct the first poster, AND do it in a humorous way. It's funny because it catches us off guard (we know there is only one developer but out of habit we just say "developers" because most distro's aren't a one man show). Furthermore, the author of this post was in no way rude or disrespectful to any poster, Patrick Volkerding or Slashdot.
Anyway, I'm expecting my "offtopic" moderation any moment now. Standing up for poster's rights and active opponent of bad moderation since 2002.
but having said that Slackware places an email in every root's inbox asking them to register for the Linux Counter Project, how many other distributions do that?
Looking at the numbers of the project I would say that their numbers are a huge underestimate.
Don't say that this is a smart marketing ploy by Slackware, they've been doing this for over 7 years. It's just a shame that other distributions don't do the same...
There are AFAIK two analyses of Slashdottings to the Linux couter project so I won't provide a Link:-D
Slashdot Mirror
If you are going to run any software on your Linux PC that is capable of playing DVDs then you're doing somthing a little bit illegal...
Now isn't that stupid?
bit late for this isn't it?
Submit your proposal as an RFC?
You are not the only one who doesn't like the Over-Clocking stuff, but I was quite interested in the Water Cooling kit.
I have a dual-Athlon MP system which has 4 fans in it:
1 fan to inject air into the chassis (front)
1 fan to eject air from the chassis (back)
and 1 fan for each CPU.
The system makes a lot of noise, and if you were to look at the Thermaltake kit you'll find that it is not designed to be an overclocking kit at all, in fact it's benchmarks did not beat fan comparisons at all.
Unfortunately I'm still waiting for a 2 Cpu kit, so that I don't have to mess about finding a 2nd Waterblock and extra tubing for my CPUs and then worrying about whether the water pump / radiator is inadequate for cooling two CPUs...
Even more unfortunate is that none of the Kit Manufacturers I have seen so far cater for dual CPU systems, which to me seems to be a niche in the market where Water Cooling would provide a great advantage in reducing noise levels and/or for the overclocking enthusiast.
It's all very much like what everyone else is saying.
You didn't mention whether you were paid for your services?
I once did some voluntary work for 6 months for a charity, once the term ended they lost some of their accounts data and gave me a call to see whether I could fix it for them, I said sure, I'll pop into their office and take a look. It was a pretty trivial problem, they had lost a disk and needed to restore from backup. I installed their accounts software on another system and grabbed the data from Backup - about 30 minutes work.
I didn't expect payment, but they gave me a small sum which certainly covered my expenses and time.
These days I would never consider doing free-work for a company which previously paid me.
You also didn't state how you left your ex-employer, whether you handed in your notice, got fired or were made redundant. From the fact that you are currently unemployed I assume that you involuntarily left your job. While going back there to fix their mess may give you a short term "last laugh" in the matter, you should certainly proceed to try to get payment for your work.
And if they didn't ask you nicely you should really tell have told them where to go and have referred them to an active LAN/WAN consultant who should charge in the region of $900 a day and probably take 3 days to fix the problem as they won't have any experience with that particular company's setup.
Slackware!!!!!!!!!!
god, I'm glad I type slow at this time of the evening. (Joke lost to eternity with newbie moderators)
Yes... the last slackware zealot has spoken..
Go Patrick! Go Patrick! Go Patrick! Go Patrick! Go Patrick! Go Patrick! Go Patrick! Go Patrick!
yah right, mod this troll, see if I care... ever tried Slackware have you?
but what is Alan Cox up to these days?
Have to say, Linux kernel releases have never really lived up to their word... I seem to remember Linus talking about "release often, release early", but that actually turned into a pile of crap.... we waiting eons for 2.4...
My advice: "Don't hold you breath for 2.6!!!!"
How about running the web server from a RAM Disk? That's an age old trick to make speed improvements!
It might also make them think, ug... a dot-zero release... I'll wait until 3.1 when they've fixed all the bugs.
Where as 2.6 sounds like the most stable of the version 2 kernels yet.
Why not do a Sun job, and call the next version 6.
here
When there's mindless stuff like this been going on for over 10 years... well....
who knows?
...ore I bacame a Unix admin, I worked...
... what a paradox ... if you were at the root shell you'd probably look twice before Submitting the message...
Before I bacame a UNIX admin
at least I'd hope so!!!
darn... I can't moderate you down because I've already posted on this topic.
So just shut your ignorant mouth!
While what you say is very true, and commendations to your efforts for all these years, you will find that most computer veterans have not used a BBS for ten years or so. Until recently I hadn't logged into a talker for well on ten years, but I did again just to experience the old nostalgia.
The good times were when BBSs were new and cutting edge, which, I'm afraid, they no longer are.
I do like your comment about the sense of a cohesive online community - that is so true and really cannot be disputed.
To draw an analogy: BBSs and Talkers are however, caves, generally small sites hosting 30-100 concurrent connections, compare that to the cities of IRC or web-based chat forums hosted by yahoo.com and the like.
Some of the best places to go are the hardest to get to.
Google.
In the dark distant past, prior to IRC, WWW (We had Gopher though!!) - I frequented talkers such as Cheeseplants house, usually accessed by telnet on a high port, like a MUD.
I was intrigued whether there was any record of the talkers on the net and here is some of what I came up with:
Talker History
Cheeseplant's House
Crazylands.org
I noticed that crazylands acutally ran a talker so I connected to see who would be online. Pity though, only 2 people were there. The strangest thing was that Grim, who I remember from Cheeseplant's house in 1991 was actually still online!!! what a spod! (we chatted for a while, then I got idle). I found another, although the name goes away, which had a few more people online, but none of the ones from before.
I look back as this being the golden age of the Internet, back in the days before AOL, while so much has changed, it's actually interesting to see that the smaller communities still exist down there in the talker underground.
I hate people who ask rhetorical questions in discussion forums.
Your company actually has people looking after physical security? (non-guard).
How many people work for said company?
My understanding is that in most companies less than 4000 employees worldwide there isn't really any physical security, except perhaps a "Facilities Manager" and a load of useless "Security Guards".
"The PIX OS requires no activation key. You do need to purchase a key to enable 3DES for VPN. The DES functionality is free."
You are partially correct. PIX, however, do require activation keys for all their functionality.
The activation key (non-DES/3DES) comes preset in the 16Mb Flash card that you need to build this clone.
Incidentally, you may be able to get some support as a purchase of a replacement flash card gives you a new Cisco S/N for your PIX (when purchased as an upgrade to an old 520 for instance).
And last time I checked Cisco were issuing DES activation keys for free as long as you gave them a Cisco S/N, which you have on your 16Mb Flash Card.
Has anyone noticed that Windows XP doesn't allow you to set the year past 2099?
I know that it's a lot further off, and unlikely to "make" people upgrade, but would you think twice about buying software that "May not function correctly after year x"?
Programmers & Companies have always designed limitations in software in the hope that they'll need to be replaced with updated versions.
I wonder if you can get more Karma by plagiarizing the highest scored posts from the previous story...
shut up!!! That is a myth and you know it!
/Local/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/test-cgi ./CGI-McPanic
#!/bin/bash
#
# CGI-McPanic: script to crash MacOS X with
# concurrent calls to a CGI-Script
#
# before use, do:
#
# chmod a+x
#
# then call
#
# bash
#
NUMPROC=32
i=0
while [ $i -le $NUMPROC ]
do
i=$[$i + 1]
ab -t 3600 http://localhost/cgi-bin/test-cgi &
done
If it is for fun, do it. If it is to save money, don't.
:-).
I generally do it for fun. However, in my last rebuild, I was pretty much forced to do it. I wanted a dual-processor system and while I wasn't going to allow anyone build my first SMP box on my behalf I also would have been stressed to find an experienced supplier prepared to build such a system.
The price mark-up (of pre-built systems) in this niche market is still relatively higher than that on the budget market. Possibly due to Intel's hold on the SMP market and the cost of SMP chipsets. For that reason, building your own can save you money
Anyway, I'm very happy with the system which I'm typing on now, whilst ripping a DVD
[Obligatory] Here are the quick specs:
Asus A7M266-D MPX Motherboard
2 x Athlon MP 1600+
512Mb Crucial ECC Ram
Intel 82559 10/100 Ethernet
noname GeFroce 4 MX440 Video
Enermax PSU
All the other parts for this system were salvaged from previous builds, which I'm sure anyone who has gone through a few rebuilds and upgrades has a large abundance of spare cables, screws, CD-ROM drives, floppy drives etc...
I went with the two MP 1600+ knowing that the higher spec MP cpus are sure to come down in price eventually so it leaves room for a suitable upgrade in the future. 64-bit PCI slots also leave room for an eventual upgrade to high-performance SCSI.
Some may say that getting a Dual-Proc system for a desktop or workstation is overkill, but once you've experienced the difference I don't think you'll look back. Not only does DVD ripping work a treat, but single-threaded applications can no longer hang the system (an age-old Windows problem).
Someone also stated that this box was overkill - well - of course it is, this is the computer equivalent to the concept car - they never make production, but they push the limits of our imagination and prepare us for the future. Who was it that said: w640 kilobytes is more than enough memory?
Tough... I'm doing it right now, simply because it's the only place that let me log in and do the download as well as probably being the only place that actually has the ISO image in full (from what I've heard).
If we had a good P2P protocol we might be able to more efficiently handle the Slackware new release distribution problems that seem to occur all the time.
The fact that I am only getting 5kBytes a second tells me that am not alone...
wget -b -o ~/logfile -t 0 -c --passive-ftp -r ftp://your.local.mirror/slackware-8.1-iso
Once store.slackware.com recovers I'll buy the CDs as well.
The parent post is currently rated "-1 Overated".
Let me explain why the parent post is both humorous and insightfull.
This post is a reply to the statement Cheers to the slackware developers. (note the s )
Most Slackware users know that the Slackware distro is very much a one man show: "Patrick Volkerding".
see this [slackware.com] and you'll note that the rest of the team works on ports, the website, etc. but not the distro.
The above poster saw an opportuinity to correct the first poster, AND do it in a humorous way. It's funny because it catches us off guard (we know there is only one developer but out of habit we just say "developers" because most distro's aren't a one man show). Furthermore, the author of this post was in no way rude or disrespectful to any poster, Patrick Volkerding or Slashdot.
Anyway, I'm expecting my "offtopic" moderation any moment now.
Standing up for poster's rights and active opponent of bad moderation since 2002.
yeah!
:-(
How did that manage to get modded up?
Why is it informative?
Having said that all this should come out in Meta-Moderation. Except that M*M rarely looks at the context of a message.
LOL That is funny...
:-)
I have to say I considered the exercise of LFS myself... but then I thought no... I'll just be running round in circles
You may be right,
:-D
but having said that Slackware places an email in every root's inbox asking them to register for the Linux Counter Project, how many other distributions do that?
Looking at the numbers of the project I would say that their numbers are a huge underestimate.
Don't say that this is a smart marketing ploy by Slackware, they've been doing this for over 7 years. It's just a shame that other distributions don't do the same...
There are AFAIK two analyses of Slashdottings to the Linux couter project so I won't provide a Link