[flikx2:~] flikx% uname -a Darwin flikx2.tacc.utah.edu 6.2 Darwin Kernel Version 6.2: Tue Nov 5 22:00:03 PST 2002; root:xnu/xnu-344.12.2.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc [flikx2:~] flikx% ls -l/usr/bin/perl -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20344 Nov 12 09:48/usr/bin/perl
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{flikx(0)@sub2 flikx}$ uname -a FreeBSD sub2.eng.utah.edu 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 28 14:31:56 GMT 2002 murray@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/src/sys/compil e/GENERIC i386 {flikx(0)@sub2 flikx}$ ls -l/usr/bin/perl -r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 10224 Jan 28 2002/usr/bin/perl
When you need to fit a full featured unix system on an install disk / rescue disk / embedded system / light hardware / etc., you need something like busybox. Sure,/usr/bin/perl is about 10K, but what about the rest of it?? And who the hell would write a full set of system tools in perl??
And furthermore, the submitter is asking about a light desktop system. My answer: IceWM, "just another window manager".
I don't see why they tote the iBooks as perfect for your backpack, etc. At the start of this school year, I did some heavy research into these systems. Not only are they much more expensive than their PC counterparts (even with the slight offset of the educational discount), but the performance of OS X lagged considerably on these machines. I bought an iBook back in August, and was so disgusted with it, that I returned it within the week. I replaced it with a Sony Vaio, running BSD, with a copy of VMWare for Windows applications. With my current system, I'm not wrapped up in the endless quagmire of apple hype. Sure, I've used OS X at work for the better part of this year, but I still get a lot more bang for the buck out of a standard, high performance PC notebook running BSD. Why should I pay a premium to use something with BSD 3.2 hacked in, running on non-native, proprietary hardware?
Besides that, it sickens me to see the average slashdotter drool over 'pretty' [fruity] OS X, and banter about the fact that their "M$ free". All while using MS Office, IE, and Outlook on their Macs. Apple is owned by Microsoft anyways. DON'T BUY INTO THE HYPE.
This is for Pakistani schools?? What a crock. Meanwhile, American schools are using old 15" televisions from the 1970's in stuffy classrooms filled with 45 children. If the school even has a television or two to share with all classrooms in the entire school.
Wear a sweater. Server rooms don't need to be the same temperature and central Africa. Get a grip.
I pay close to $120 a month to keep my apartment 62F year round, and I save a huge amount of money because I don't have to constantly repair and replace equipment.
Why should I pay $150k for a car to get the privilege to burn out??
I've got two cars for under $5000 that can do the exact same thing any time I want. [Private/personal] cars have really went downhill in the past 30 years.
The light rail system in Salt Lake City, Utah incorporates a similar system. Displays at the end of each station announce arrival times and other messages. It doesn't seem to be too advanced of a system, most likely gettting data from track signals.
This sort of setup seems to be standard on most systems. It looks like Olso goes just a little farther by incorporating data from all modes of public transport into one system. Seems like the next step for most transit systems IMO.
If your wife is really so much of an environmentalist, she'd be out there every week breaking her back with a nice clean old-fashioned manual rotary mower. It's good exercise too.
Why not rub it in by purchasing a big old 15 HP gas-driven monster. Make sure to get it second-hand, and make sure that it belches plenty of toxins and leaves soot everywhere. Also be sure never to change the spark plug(s) or perform more than the minimum maintenance required to keep it running poorly.
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That information is a bit off. Flickinger, Dan E-MAIL: flikee@xmission.com ALIASES: flikx
<(flikx[0]@screamapillar ~)> /usr/bin/perl5.8.0 /usr/bin/perl5.8.0*
/usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/perl
l e/GENERIC i386 /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/perl
{2:1009 ->}$ uname -a
Linux screamapillar.localdomain 2.4.19 #1 Sun Sep 29 18:01:23 MDT 2002 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux
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{2:1010 ->}$ ll -h
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10K Sep 6 15:41
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[flikx2:~] flikx% uname -a
Darwin flikx2.tacc.utah.edu 6.2 Darwin Kernel Version 6.2: Tue Nov 5 22:00:03 PST 2002; root:xnu/xnu-344.12.2.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
[flikx2:~] flikx% ls -l
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 20344 Nov 12 09:48
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{flikx(0)@sub2 flikx}$ uname -a
FreeBSD sub2.eng.utah.edu 4.5-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #0: Mon Jan 28 14:31:56 GMT 2002 murray@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/src/sys/compi
{flikx(0)@sub2 flikx}$ ls -l
-r-xr-xr-x 3 root wheel 10224 Jan 28 2002
Windows -> VMWare -> Linux -> Wine -> Cygwin -> Wine.
And finally, a stable, enterprise-ready solution for running my Windows applications.
You don't even understand the question.
When you need to fit a full featured unix system on an install disk / rescue disk / embedded system / light hardware / etc., you need something like busybox. Sure, /usr/bin/perl is about 10K, but what about the rest of it?? And who the hell would write a full set of system tools in perl??
And furthermore, the submitter is asking about a light desktop system. My answer: IceWM, "just another window manager".
The six items I carry are more than enough.
Seriously, who needs brakes when you're riding down a snowbank on the detatched hood of a police cruiser?
I don't see why they tote the iBooks as perfect for your backpack, etc. At the start of this school year, I did some heavy research into these systems. Not only are they much more expensive than their PC counterparts (even with the slight offset of the educational discount), but the performance of OS X lagged considerably on these machines. I bought an iBook back in August, and was so disgusted with it, that I returned it within the week. I replaced it with a Sony Vaio, running BSD, with a copy of VMWare for Windows applications. With my current system, I'm not wrapped up in the endless quagmire of apple hype. Sure, I've used OS X at work for the better part of this year, but I still get a lot more bang for the buck out of a standard, high performance PC notebook running BSD. Why should I pay a premium to use something with BSD 3.2 hacked in, running on non-native, proprietary hardware?
Besides that, it sickens me to see the average slashdotter drool over 'pretty' [fruity] OS X, and banter about the fact that their "M$ free". All while using MS Office, IE, and Outlook on their Macs. Apple is owned by Microsoft anyways. DON'T BUY INTO THE HYPE.
Slashdot should not be an advertising forum!
If a star was about as far away as the moon, I think I'd worry about more than pocket change and floppy disks.
This is for Pakistani schools?? What a crock. Meanwhile, American schools are using old 15" televisions from the 1970's in stuffy classrooms filled with 45 children. If the school even has a television or two to share with all classrooms in the entire school.
That one's slashdotted too. Does anyone have the google cache link??
Load test indeed!
Someone please post mirrors!
Wear a sweater. Server rooms don't need to be the same temperature and central Africa. Get a grip.
I pay close to $120 a month to keep my apartment 62F year round, and I save a huge amount of money because I don't have to constantly repair and replace equipment.
Why not take over a Canadian state, then make it part of the US? Seriously, with an army of ~20,000 a group could easily annex part of Canada.
I LIVE IN THE US: Salt Lake City, Utah. Come get me. Muwahahaha!
You don't have to be a Kreskin to know that BeOS is dying...
:)
Aw screw it. It's hardly even worth it anymore.
Utah, swipe snazzy card, put $60 of fuel in my gas tank.
It's great to have a big ol' Suburban. I feel like such a hick. I could carpool with 11 people, but I drive alone. Muwahahaha!
And a P4 2400 at that!
Madness!
What I really need is a Micro 386.
When will the authors cache story content on slashdot?
(* world ends *)Why should I pay $150k for a car to get the privilege to burn out??
I've got two cars for under $5000 that can do the exact same thing any time I want. [Private/personal] cars have really went downhill in the past 30 years.
Nitpick: The technology to actually build a space elevator does not exist at this time; and will not exist for hundreds of years.
The light rail system in Salt Lake City, Utah incorporates a similar system. Displays at the end of each station announce arrival times and other messages. It doesn't seem to be too advanced of a system, most likely gettting data from track signals.
This sort of setup seems to be standard on most systems. It looks like Olso goes just a little farther by incorporating data from all modes of public transport into one system. Seems like the next step for most transit systems IMO.
If your wife is really so much of an environmentalist, she'd be out there every week breaking her back with a nice clean old-fashioned manual rotary mower. It's good exercise too.
Why not rub it in by purchasing a big old 15 HP gas-driven monster. Make sure to get it second-hand, and make sure that it belches plenty of toxins and leaves soot everywhere. Also be sure never to change the spark plug(s) or perform more than the minimum maintenance required to keep it running poorly.
Environmentalist indeed.