10% of what? 10% of a huge number is still a substantial amount. I guarantee they still could get some nice readings after 1 year of time in Hiroshima.
50 years after a controlled reaction, radiation in Hiroshima is basically undetectable... Hiroshima was a carefully crafted explosion, Port Chicago certainly didn't look like one. Compare a giant mass of random high explosive ornance against one precision crafted bomb. I suspect Port Chicago would be more like Chernobyl in terms of residual radiation (adjusted for assumed amount of nuclear material).
How many people died from radiation in Port Chicago? It's not exactly something that isn't noticeable either... I think this argument alone settles it.
Sure you can! - they'll post your subscription request in Loopback will all the other errors of society they find when they run fsck on their e-mail box:P
OK, let me back this up a bit: I can see packets flying around in the same manner as if I were on a switch. Implicit in that was that I could see broadcasts (DHCP queries, IGMP announcements, routing info, etc.). That is the manner of what would be seen on a switch. Because my cable modem does bridging (think two port switch), I don't see normal unicast packets unless I'm using ARP poisoning (which I haven't done on Adelphia's net).
Today's lesson: why is it possible to see unicast packets not sent to you on a switch using ARP poisoning? The answer is because switchs forward data based only on the MAC address in the frame. ARP poisoning makes the computer (full computer, not microprocessor in the switch) believe that an IP belongs to a different MAC address than it really does. So the computer sends the frames to your MAC address instead of the other ones once the ARP table has been poisoned. The switch is all along performing the proper duties as it should of sending packets to the proper port based on the MAC address.
So, in summary, I can see packets flying around in the same manner as if I were on a switch. That means broadcasts and packets directed to me. I assume based on my knowledge that I might be able to use ARP poisoning on Adelphia's net to confuse computers into sending unicast packets to me so I can sniff them in a man-in-the-middle style attack. It is certainly possible that Adelphia has a setup where the bridging of the cable modem is smarter than to allow this attack, but I can't confirm either way (unwilling to try it - I like having service).
I said what I meant, and I meant what I said. You just tried to read a little more into it than what was there. I really did see packets in the same manner as I would on a switch. Of course, I could have been more specific, but hey...
For reference, most ISP connections don't even allow you to see broadcast traffic (think dialup via PPP or DSL modems - no broadcasts from other machines). Also, you might want to check out Ettercap, or any other tool of that variety. Makes ARP spoofing easy. Grab one of your switches and try it out.
Really far... done it on my own network. I can sit and watch every packet coming out of a machine, and modify them as I want while they pass through my machine if it suits me. Let me try to end this: It works, I know this. I've proven it to myself. Have a nice day.
Could somebody explain why the parent to this comment was made? Broadcast packets are visible on a switch. I can see that. That to me means that with ARP poisoning I can mostly likely see the unicast packets. Still the dumbass?
Yes, this vulnerability does exist. I re-posted it to adelphia.security-issues as soon as I recieved it from Bugtraq (7 PM Eastern, on the 12th). So it's been almost 48 hours. No word from Adelphia has been recieved by me yet.
For details on the vulnerability: Hooked directly to the cable modem, I can see packets flying around in the same manner as if I were on a switch. It's like a really wide-spread LAN. I've even been able to identify certain users of the subnet I'm on (some guy who lives by a popular ice-cream place uses Adelphia. I know this 'cause his name is also on his car's license plates). Whether or not the use of tools such as Ettercap work I can't confirm (Re: I'm not willing to confirm). I've started calling Adelphia's NOC, but they're really not dealing with this very well...
True to all of it... but the website owner certainly can try to be a jerk about the whole process. It's his right to use whatever information he gets from your browser to determine what to do with pages... a can of worms I probably should't have opened (I.E. some bug in the broswer lets them get anything from your hardrive - but then again I'm not making a legal definition here). Regardless, I think it's a joke, but companies will try to do what they will.
Sun buys from a different pool of hardware than the rest of the world. A Fujitsu drive bought from Sun will be better quality than one straight from Fujitsu... it's part of the deal they have. Fujitsu can't afford to have Sun come crashing down on their heads either. Same things goes for pretty much any part from Sun. If you've ever wondered why a 128 MB stick of RAM costs so much, it's because Sun will guarantee it...
I have no connection with Sun other than I want to own some of their equipment...
Controller: "Sir, we've lost the iceberg." Boss: "You WHAT?! The thing isn't exactly the size of a pen... it's a fricken iceberg! And it moves at the speed of a snail! How can you lose something that size moving that slow?" Controller: "Oh, like it's easy to find - an iceberg in an ocean is like a needle in a haystack" Boss: "Yeah? When's the last time a needle sunk a ship?"
Actually, the whole global warming thing is based on the inverse - the CO2 would trap heat near the surface rather than blocking it... unless of course we started trying things like nuclear winters where we just covered the entire sky all at once with a lot more crap...
Just so everybody knows - now that they're using PHP instead of C++ doesn't mean it's not proprietary anymore. I'm pretty sure they're not going to go follow slashcode anytime soon...
Also, what company would be stupid enough to throw tons of money at building up a brand only to be at Apple's mercy? That takes a lot of faith, and you saw what happened last time someone had faith in Apple not to screw them over...
I dunno... but I'd certainly say Dell is Microsoft's bitch...
That's exactly what this would do. The DDOS'd routers tell their upstream routers to cut back the flow of traffic - basically cutting out the source of the traffic. This of course requires that the upstream routers agree to do this...
In comparison to what? Yes, they're faster than the 7,200 you probably have - but they only run at 2/3 the speed of most really high end drives (15,000 RPM). Really it's not too bad a trade-off.
Also, please note that the laws of physics say that it can read more data if the head is able to keep up - and I'm sure it is.
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Sure you can! - they'll post your subscription request in Loopback will all the other errors of society they find when they run fsck on their e-mail box :P
Today's lesson: why is it possible to see unicast packets not sent to you on a switch using ARP poisoning? The answer is because switchs forward data based only on the MAC address in the frame. ARP poisoning makes the computer (full computer, not microprocessor in the switch) believe that an IP belongs to a different MAC address than it really does. So the computer sends the frames to your MAC address instead of the other ones once the ARP table has been poisoned. The switch is all along performing the proper duties as it should of sending packets to the proper port based on the MAC address.
So, in summary, I can see packets flying around in the same manner as if I were on a switch. That means broadcasts and packets directed to me. I assume based on my knowledge that I might be able to use ARP poisoning on Adelphia's net to confuse computers into sending unicast packets to me so I can sniff them in a man-in-the-middle style attack. It is certainly possible that Adelphia has a setup where the bridging of the cable modem is smarter than to allow this attack, but I can't confirm either way (unwilling to try it - I like having service).
I said what I meant, and I meant what I said. You just tried to read a little more into it than what was there. I really did see packets in the same manner as I would on a switch. Of course, I could have been more specific, but hey...
For reference, most ISP connections don't even allow you to see broadcast traffic (think dialup via PPP or DSL modems - no broadcasts from other machines). Also, you might want to check out Ettercap, or any other tool of that variety. Makes ARP spoofing easy. Grab one of your switches and try it out.
Really far... done it on my own network. I can sit and watch every packet coming out of a machine, and modify them as I want while they pass through my machine if it suits me. Let me try to end this: It works, I know this. I've proven it to myself. Have a nice day.
Could somebody explain why the parent to this comment was made? Broadcast packets are visible on a switch. I can see that. That to me means that with ARP poisoning I can mostly likely see the unicast packets. Still the dumbass?
More info as I get it...
And to think I tried to make sure it would be read as "In Example" by putting periods.
True to all of it... but the website owner certainly can try to be a jerk about the whole process. It's his right to use whatever information he gets from your browser to determine what to do with pages... a can of worms I probably should't have opened (I.E. some bug in the broswer lets them get anything from your hardrive - but then again I'm not making a legal definition here). Regardless, I think it's a joke, but companies will try to do what they will.
A bummer...
Mirror lockup... set the camera's self-timer on a fully manual or use the option on an automatic...
This one available from Amazon.com vibrates... too bad they took down the comments from the clueless purchasers...
I was under the impression balance was primarily controlled by the inner ear... how much of an effect do your feet really have with this?
No, acid would have indicated a termite problem...
I have no connection with Sun other than I want to own some of their equipment...
Controller: "Sir, we've lost the iceberg."
Boss: "You WHAT?! The thing isn't exactly the size of a pen... it's a fricken iceberg! And it moves at the speed of a snail! How can you lose something that size moving that slow?"
Controller: "Oh, like it's easy to find - an iceberg in an ocean is like a needle in a haystack"
Boss: "Yeah? When's the last time a needle sunk a ship?"
Actually, the whole global warming thing is based on the inverse - the CO2 would trap heat near the surface rather than blocking it... unless of course we started trying things like nuclear winters where we just covered the entire sky all at once with a lot more crap...
Yep, that'd make it stupid... *sigh* gotta wake up before reading /.
OK, this is almost certainly a really dumb question - but why can't we just put our own hash into the system?
Does that mean M$ is about equal to Satan, or Satan lives there?
Since when is C++ proprietary anyway?
It would shut off the source of the flood, not the destination as the original poster implied...
That's exactly what this would do. The DDOS'd routers tell their upstream routers to cut back the flow of traffic - basically cutting out the source of the traffic. This of course requires that the upstream routers agree to do this...
Yes, but if the site contains ads designed to exploit PageRank, then the value of the site probably isn't that high, now is it?
Also, please note that the laws of physics say that it can read more data if the head is able to keep up - and I'm sure it is.