But the idea that student achievement and learning can be measured via test scores I think is flawed to start with. I've been in classes (back when I was in school) where the focus of the material for weeks at a time was standardized test materials rather than continuing the curriculum. I hear from friends that teach that this has only gotten worse as they've gotten more important. I think that is lamentable.
The Wikipedia article's criticisms sum up most of the problems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act#Criticisms and I agree with most of them. The biggest problem in school systems today is lack of adequate funding/support. NCLB does not address that and actually makes it worse. I don't know any teacher who thinks it's a good idea (though I have only spoken with a handful).
Sounds like you have no background in education and have no idea what you're talking about. Incidentally, they work "9 months out of the year" but do also have to work during some of that period, and when they ARE working during the year, their day starts at 8 and tends not to end until at least 8 (grading papers, writing lesson plans, etc.). Of course, you're not interested in going into teaching yourself, apparently, but you're perfectly happy to tear down someone who has. That's really noble of you.
BTW, I'm not a teacher, but nice try.
I was going to say eMusic. The author of the question says he's partial to it, but apparently it doesn't fit the bill? Don't know why. I've gotten everything I've looked for in terms of classical lately from mp3va.com, but I don't recall how pop/non-pop any of it was.
Let's go farther than that: a parent who is so poor that they need to work 3 jobs in order to make ends meet (possibly having this happen after they had kids, maybe not... whichever). A parent may not actually have time, due to circumstances under or not under their control, to pay the amount of attention this sort of thing deserves. Or if a parent is really dedicated but has difficulty making enough money for the kid to eat, which distracts him at school. There are a lot of factors. I'm a member of a teacher's union (though not a teacher) and this stuff comes up all the time (and I know a bunch of teachers as well, including my father and mother and some friends I graduated with). This obsession with grades is unfortunate... they are necessary, but they are not the only thing that matters. If you see a school that is failing a large number of students but the student population is plagued with these issues, it's a problem that really can't be fixed by "improving the schools." That's why it's so offensive to me to see teachers getting skewered in the press; I'm sorry, 90% of the time it's just not that simple.
No, that's not necessarily what it means. Not all versions of MacOS X will install on all hardware. I'm trying to remember what I tried to install on a white G3 (PowerMac 7500 form factor) but it wouldn't install. 10.2 maybe?
Sounds like Palm is the real open platform then. No rooting really required. You have to turn developer mode on initially, but there's no possible bricking of the phone or any of that... and with the developer package and that mode on, you're root. Anyone can do it. And as far as I know, Palm is not trying to change that.
Most libertarians I see are morally bankrupt and are only libertarians because the government is infringing upon their right to do X or not to pay for Y at this very moment in time. There are very few who remain libertarian, say, when their house is burning or when they break an axle on a pothole.
This is the crappy NY Post version of what's happening. The truth is much farther from that end. If you read about what those rooms are for, in many cases there are teachers there who are not teaching because they're brought up on charges but will ultimately be cleared, and if the system moved more quickly, they'd be back in the classroom faster. Unions are occasionally part of the problem... but how about administrators that give tenure to bad teachers?
It's even more weird how some people claim you must be an "expert" in something in the days when anyone can educate themselves in anything if they chose to apply themselves seriously enough.
Ummm, wouldn't that make you an expert? And besides, just because anyone CAN educate themselves doesn't mean they do. They clearly do not, which is what GP is saying in the first place.
It's an interesting problem - whilst it's trying to address the original discrimination that exists, which I think is good for them to do, it's now reasonable for someone to argue that how they pay their employees is discrimination (I don't know if sexuality is a protected class for employment discrimination in the US?)
Not yet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Non-Discrimination_Act
That's an awful example. I have a Palm Pre and it annoys me that those things were not built into the OS. There are reasons to want root access, but in order to perform BASIC phone functions? No.
It is pretty embarrassing, isn't it? I'd welcome us becoming more socialist. Shame more of these people don't get an education, but if we made it affordable, that'd be socialist. Oops.
If you look at the financial situation this past year, I'd say that Iceland is in good company.
It is funny though that Iceland is reaping SERIOUS benefits from these volcanoes (geothermal power and hot water), but is exporting economically damaging clouds of ash.
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Ah, OK. I only ever had it as a monthly charge.
But the idea that student achievement and learning can be measured via test scores I think is flawed to start with. I've been in classes (back when I was in school) where the focus of the material for weeks at a time was standardized test materials rather than continuing the curriculum. I hear from friends that teach that this has only gotten worse as they've gotten more important. I think that is lamentable.
The Wikipedia article's criticisms sum up most of the problems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act#Criticisms and I agree with most of them. The biggest problem in school systems today is lack of adequate funding/support. NCLB does not address that and actually makes it worse. I don't know any teacher who thinks it's a good idea (though I have only spoken with a handful).
How's that?
Sounds like you have no background in education and have no idea what you're talking about. Incidentally, they work "9 months out of the year" but do also have to work during some of that period, and when they ARE working during the year, their day starts at 8 and tends not to end until at least 8 (grading papers, writing lesson plans, etc.). Of course, you're not interested in going into teaching yourself, apparently, but you're perfectly happy to tear down someone who has. That's really noble of you. BTW, I'm not a teacher, but nice try.
Sounds like we both have the same amount of research behind us. Trouble was, you were the one trying to prove something.
That graph is so neat and clean; no citations mucking up the look of it. Nice work!
No.
I was going to say eMusic. The author of the question says he's partial to it, but apparently it doesn't fit the bill? Don't know why. I've gotten everything I've looked for in terms of classical lately from mp3va.com, but I don't recall how pop/non-pop any of it was.
Oh yeah, NCLB was a tremendous success and should be used as a benchmark, right?
Oh, and here's one of those crappy parents we were talking about! Thanks for joining us!
Let's go farther than that: a parent who is so poor that they need to work 3 jobs in order to make ends meet (possibly having this happen after they had kids, maybe not... whichever). A parent may not actually have time, due to circumstances under or not under their control, to pay the amount of attention this sort of thing deserves. Or if a parent is really dedicated but has difficulty making enough money for the kid to eat, which distracts him at school. There are a lot of factors. I'm a member of a teacher's union (though not a teacher) and this stuff comes up all the time (and I know a bunch of teachers as well, including my father and mother and some friends I graduated with). This obsession with grades is unfortunate... they are necessary, but they are not the only thing that matters. If you see a school that is failing a large number of students but the student population is plagued with these issues, it's a problem that really can't be fixed by "improving the schools." That's why it's so offensive to me to see teachers getting skewered in the press; I'm sorry, 90% of the time it's just not that simple.
Do you actually know anything about education, or are you just talking?
No, that's not necessarily what it means. Not all versions of MacOS X will install on all hardware. I'm trying to remember what I tried to install on a white G3 (PowerMac 7500 form factor) but it wouldn't install. 10.2 maybe?
Sounds like Palm is the real open platform then. No rooting really required. You have to turn developer mode on initially, but there's no possible bricking of the phone or any of that... and with the developer package and that mode on, you're root. Anyone can do it. And as far as I know, Palm is not trying to change that.
Most libertarians I see are morally bankrupt and are only libertarians because the government is infringing upon their right to do X or not to pay for Y at this very moment in time. There are very few who remain libertarian, say, when their house is burning or when they break an axle on a pothole.
I've gotten a road fixed. Took maybe 6 months.
This is the crappy NY Post version of what's happening. The truth is much farther from that end. If you read about what those rooms are for, in many cases there are teachers there who are not teaching because they're brought up on charges but will ultimately be cleared, and if the system moved more quickly, they'd be back in the classroom faster. Unions are occasionally part of the problem... but how about administrators that give tenure to bad teachers?
Ummm, wouldn't that make you an expert? And besides, just because anyone CAN educate themselves doesn't mean they do. They clearly do not, which is what GP is saying in the first place.
No, you yourself have shown how stupid you are, by not having any argument and merely mocking your opposition because you had nothing to say.
It's an interesting problem - whilst it's trying to address the original discrimination that exists, which I think is good for them to do, it's now reasonable for someone to argue that how they pay their employees is discrimination (I don't know if sexuality is a protected class for employment discrimination in the US?)
Not yet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Non-Discrimination_Act
That's an awful example. I have a Palm Pre and it annoys me that those things were not built into the OS. There are reasons to want root access, but in order to perform BASIC phone functions? No.
Where's the better analogy?
For a bunch of printers, they do. Maybe not all, but many in my experience. That's the driver I normally use.
It is pretty embarrassing, isn't it? I'd welcome us becoming more socialist. Shame more of these people don't get an education, but if we made it affordable, that'd be socialist. Oops.
If you look at the financial situation this past year, I'd say that Iceland is in good company.
It is funny though that Iceland is reaping SERIOUS benefits from these volcanoes (geothermal power and hot water), but is exporting economically damaging clouds of ash.