I guess that's dependant on your definition of phone company. As it is here, we get our bandwidth from a larger carrier, and the cable company gets their's from a different large carrier.
We already have that problem with cable. However, we require a $600 install fee for TV without phone(they basically end up purchasing the tv box).
Our "official justification" is that the "dsl goes over the phone line", so it sounds like we have to run the line anyway. In actuality most of our customer base is FTTH and the rest is VDSL, so a true phone line is irrelevant. And we run the full line/fiber with the drop in the first place. Its bascially the profitiblity factor that drives the landline requirement.
I have a feeling that if our state does do that our package price(phone line/dsl) and dsl only price will be almost the same(i.e. phone/dsl for $60/month and dsl only for $55/month).
I work for a telephone coop in their internet dept. We've been drilled about the evils of Vonage/Skype, etc cutting in to our MUCH more lucrative-than-internet-or-tv-depts for a while now.
But, as all of our customers have access to our's and other's(namely cable) broadband. I don't know that filtering out VoIP would be a good move. We've had a few customers whine that their VOiP isnt reliable(duh) on our service. (mine seems to work just fine) So the first thing they do is go to the cable company for service(not that this makes any difference in their reliability)
So with the cable and other non-dialtone companies, filtering VoIP causes phoe co's to loose not only an internet customer but a landline costomer as well. As we require a landline for our broadband, we stil get the best of both worlds while still providing VoIP access.
It looks like the only information is an email from a listserve?
Umm.. I just got several emails promising to enlarge body parts, improve bodily functions, and sell me prescription drugs at unreal prices. An the fax I got the other day lets me in on an offere to go to Disney World for $69. So what?
So a slashdot article now has come down to some dude posting the cool spam they got?
I doubt that these guys are obtaining and distributing files that couldn't be obtained for free using a good BitTorrent client (albeit also illegally).
I'd agree, not to mention, the files probably were already BitTorrent'ed already, so its just conserving bandwidth!
Stealing homemade sex videos and that sort of thing from customers' computers is another matter.
No doubt, so would accessing financial information and passwords also kept on many home computer users(especially people that use big-box computer repair)
To be honest, I'd rather have a competent technician solve my configuration problems and help himself to my MP3
I'm guessing a computer tech that doesn't notice a program that is logging keystrokes and taking VIDEO SCREENSHOTS can't be all that competent.
Question - how much did it cost to fund Christopher Columbus' initial 1492 expedition? (Considering that it required royal patronage... I'm thinking it was nearly the same order of expense).
His "investors" were promised a quick route to India, which would've meant immediate lucrative trade with India's Indians. This would've made any investor a relatively quick return. Instead he ran into a unexplored(by Europeans) hunk of land. Granted it was profitable, but not nearly as quick as was promised i'll bet.
I'm not sure, but I'm guessing we don't have much promise of a lucrative trade route with the Martians to secure a quick return on our investment... Just a guess though...
1. If you're a geek, try to wrap your head around Asterisk - I'd have to think either it would have that functionality built in, and if not - wouldn't be too hard to tell it to pass whitelisted #s, but dump everything else to voicemail....
Been trying to wrap my head around it, but all I have are POTS phones. I know an IA92 intel modem should connect the Asterisk box to standard phone line, but what about my standad analog phones? I hate try to find business-like desk phones and replace my nice cordless analog ones.
I work for a small cable company, and a la carte would S U C K for small companies.
Provisioning customer based on a per-channel basis would be an absolute nightmare with any of the software we've seen.
Right now we have 2 main channel packages and a few add-on packages . The 2 main packages are basically broken into "all normal cable channels" and "all normal cable channels, plus premium movie channels". These blocks are based on contracts that we have with the networks that we pay on a per-subscriber basis. ALOT of specialized networks that we don't currently offer WILL NOT ALLOW us to put them on our "extra" channel packages such as our sports add-on package, then demand it be offered in all our standard packages. We don't end up adding them because the per-subscriber charge is relatively high($1+ each/MONTH) and we don't believe in raising rates every 6 months (done so twice in 5 years, and still a lot of complaints).
I'd imagine very many of the premium and specialized networks who live off the per subscriber charge MUST fight this tooth and nail. Not to mention all of our wonderful Java based on-screen guide software displays all available channels whether the subscriber gets them or not, so a la cart would generate a lot of 1-channel for 1-month issues because they want to watch 1 show on it once.
Pricing would be interesting as we offer triple-play services on a FTTH Network, so breaking the $85/month into the 3 services which are co-dependant due to the fairly expensive FTTH NID on each house, and and further breaking each channel down would come out to like 30 to 40 cents per channel. But some channels cost 2-3 times that much per subscriber, and ones like over-the-air broadcast ones are simply encoded and broadcasted with little or no network cost.
How dare you judge me? I mean what are you? You think you're some kind of, like, angel here? No, you're just this penny-stealing... wanna-be criminal... man.
Yeah, well, that may be. But at least I never slept with Lumbergh.
HI I am a representative for the Prince of Arkansas, and I am wanting to present you with a gourgous opportunity. If you will be kind enough to give me your bank account information I would be very happy to set you up with some solar cell access.
PLEASE NO MORE CONNECTIVITY FOR NIGERIA... PLEASE!!!!
What about Camino? I've been using it for months and it seems like the best of both worlds between Safari and Firefox. I haven't had the render and speed issues I've had with Safari, and its interface is much closer to the rest of Mac OS. It seems very stable for such an early revision.
Speaking of which, how many have actually seen a gas station that sells E85?
I live in a town of about 15,000 and we have 5 stations with e-85. Out of about 12-15 total This is minnesota though, and its pushed like crazy by the polititians.
I've tried the stuff, and I broke even between the price/mileage drop. Its definitly less per gallon, but at only 2/3 the MPG and 2/3 the acceleration power, I'll take gasoline. Gas costs within $.015/mile of e-85 here, and the performance drop makes my car a sloth in commute traffic...
Nice idea though...
When I worked retail it was company policy to ALWAYS ask for ID and compare signatures on a card to the ID. Due to our credit card processing company making it known that it was OUR reponsibility to verify this, as the end user is the only one that can.
On the flip side of this, I walked into Home Depot and purchased $49 worth of merchandise with a credit card in the SELF CHECKOUT and was NOT REQUIRE TO EVEN SIGN. Anything under $50 does not require a signature. Now how is it even remotely possible for them to know who is charging on the card?
As a former retailer, I very well know the frustrations of a chargeback that comes out of no-were. As a consumer, I've found that it's quite easy to deny a charge for very little reason.
Engine coolant is piped from the radiator to a small radiator in the cab which air blows over. Thus cooling the engine a bit faster in the process and using waste heat for something usefull.
TIP: if your in a traffic jam and your engine overheats, turn on your heater.
I live in quite cold climate(last week's high was -15F), and getting gas powered cars to start and warm up is a challenge. The number ONE problem we have is batteries going dead overnight in the cold. You can trickle charge them or put a warmer on them to prevent it, but if the entire car runs on battery I would imagine the battery life to be very poor.
Then, tack on the heater issue... Sounds pretty infeasible around these parts. Although, a possible solution would be to do what is currently done with gas cars, and pipe whatever excess heat is made by the motor into the cab. I'm not sure how much that would produce, but it would increase the efficiency a bit.
I've seen a few cold weather tests for hybrid and turbo desiel around here. The hybrids seem to crap out about -10F to -15F and a few of the TD seem to drop out about -35F. The gas, assuming it starts, don't have issues running in cold.
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I guess that's dependant on your definition of phone company. As it is here, we get our bandwidth from a larger carrier, and the cable company gets their's from a different large carrier.
We already have that problem with cable. However, we require a $600 install fee for TV without phone(they basically end up purchasing the tv box).
Our "official justification" is that the "dsl goes over the phone line", so it sounds like we have to run the line anyway. In actuality most of our customer base is FTTH and the rest is VDSL, so a true phone line is irrelevant. And we run the full line/fiber with the drop in the first place. Its bascially the profitiblity factor that drives the landline requirement.
I have a feeling that if our state does do that our package price(phone line/dsl) and dsl only price will be almost the same(i.e. phone/dsl for $60/month and dsl only for $55/month).
I wonder about this somewhat.
I work for a telephone coop in their internet dept. We've been drilled about the evils of Vonage/Skype, etc cutting in to our MUCH more lucrative-than-internet-or-tv-depts for a while now.
But, as all of our customers have access to our's and other's(namely cable) broadband. I don't know that filtering out VoIP would be a good move. We've had a few customers whine that their VOiP isnt reliable(duh) on our service. (mine seems to work just fine) So the first thing they do is go to the cable company for service(not that this makes any difference in their reliability)
So with the cable and other non-dialtone companies, filtering VoIP causes phoe co's to loose not only an internet customer but a landline costomer as well. As we require a landline for our broadband, we stil get the best of both worlds while still providing VoIP access.
It looks like the only information is an email from a listserve?
Umm.. I just got several emails promising to enlarge body parts, improve bodily functions, and sell me prescription drugs at unreal prices. An the fax I got the other day lets me in on an offere to go to Disney World for $69. So what?
So a slashdot article now has come down to some dude posting the cool spam they got?
Its a promotional stunt to promote the conference!
Now, next time I walk into Mall Wart and see a (name brand) HD-DVD or Blu-ray player for $148.97, then THAT will be a big deal.
Is that like getting slashdotted?
I'd agree, not to mention, the files probably were already BitTorrent'ed already, so its just conserving bandwidth!
Stealing homemade sex videos and that sort of thing from customers' computers is another matter.
No doubt, so would accessing financial information and passwords also kept on many home computer users(especially people that use big-box computer repair)
To be honest, I'd rather have a competent technician solve my configuration problems and help himself to my MP3
I'm guessing a computer tech that doesn't notice a program that is logging keystrokes and taking VIDEO SCREENSHOTS can't be all that competent.
But since we're talking about Apple, shouldn't it be the iPenis?
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We there's comment to sig correlation if I ever saw it!
His "investors" were promised a quick route to India, which would've meant immediate lucrative trade with India's Indians. This would've made any investor a relatively quick return. Instead he ran into a unexplored(by Europeans) hunk of land. Granted it was profitable, but not nearly as quick as was promised i'll bet.
I'm not sure, but I'm guessing we don't have much promise of a lucrative trade route with the Martians to secure a quick return on our investment... Just a guess though...
Been trying to wrap my head around it, but all I have are POTS phones. I know an IA92 intel modem should connect the Asterisk box to standard phone line, but what about my standad analog phones? I hate try to find business-like desk phones and replace my nice cordless analog ones.
I work for a small cable company, and a la carte would S U C K for small companies.
Provisioning customer based on a per-channel basis would be an absolute nightmare with any of the software we've seen.
Right now we have 2 main channel packages and a few add-on packages . The 2 main packages are basically broken into "all normal cable channels" and "all normal cable channels, plus premium movie channels". These blocks are based on contracts that we have with the networks that we pay on a per-subscriber basis. ALOT of specialized networks that we don't currently offer WILL NOT ALLOW us to put them on our "extra" channel packages such as our sports add-on package, then demand it be offered in all our standard packages. We don't end up adding them because the per-subscriber charge is relatively high($1+ each/MONTH) and we don't believe in raising rates every 6 months (done so twice in 5 years, and still a lot of complaints).
I'd imagine very many of the premium and specialized networks who live off the per subscriber charge MUST fight this tooth and nail. Not to mention all of our wonderful Java based on-screen guide software displays all available channels whether the subscriber gets them or not, so a la cart would generate a lot of 1-channel for 1-month issues because they want to watch 1 show on it once.
Pricing would be interesting as we offer triple-play services on a FTTH Network, so breaking the $85/month into the 3 services which are co-dependant due to the fairly expensive FTTH NID on each house, and and further breaking each channel down would come out to like 30 to 40 cents per channel. But some channels cost 2-3 times that much per subscriber, and ones like over-the-air broadcast ones are simply encoded and broadcasted with little or no network cost.
KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHNNNN!!
sorry.... couldn't stopy myself quick enough before hitting "submit"
Which Northern Minnesota was that? Evidently not the one I'm in, 'cuz it was cloudy and raining :-(
How dare you judge me? I mean what are you? You think you're some kind of, like, angel here? No, you're just this penny-stealing... wanna-be criminal... man.
Yeah, well, that may be. But at least I never slept with Lumbergh.
I'd play ALOT more a year from now, as I figure that's about when i'll finally get my hands on one!
and the right to bear hammers.
I tried i hammer a bear once.
I got eaten though.
If the news featured more positive stories.
American news THRIVES on depressing and horrifing scenarios. It's, well, depressing.
The world isnt a kind and gentle place, but must it be a manufacutred hell?
HI I am a representative for the Prince of Arkansas, and I am wanting to present you with a gourgous opportunity. If you will be kind enough to give me your bank account information I would be very happy to set you up with some solar cell access.
PLEASE NO MORE CONNECTIVITY FOR NIGERIA... PLEASE!!!!
What about Camino? I've been using it for months and it seems like the best of both worlds between Safari and Firefox. I haven't had the render and speed issues I've had with Safari, and its interface is much closer to the rest of Mac OS. It seems very stable for such an early revision.
Speaking of which, how many have actually seen a gas station that sells E85?
I live in a town of about 15,000 and we have 5 stations with e-85. Out of about 12-15 total This is minnesota though, and its pushed like crazy by the polititians.
I've tried the stuff, and I broke even between the price/mileage drop. Its definitly less per gallon, but at only 2/3 the MPG and 2/3 the acceleration power, I'll take gasoline. Gas costs within $.015/mile of e-85 here, and the performance drop makes my car a sloth in commute traffic... Nice idea though...
When I worked retail it was company policy to ALWAYS ask for ID and compare signatures on a card to the ID. Due to our credit card processing company making it known that it was OUR reponsibility to verify this, as the end user is the only one that can.
On the flip side of this, I walked into Home Depot and purchased $49 worth of merchandise with a credit card in the SELF CHECKOUT and was NOT REQUIRE TO EVEN SIGN. Anything under $50 does not require a signature. Now how is it even remotely possible for them to know who is charging on the card?
As a former retailer, I very well know the frustrations of a chargeback that comes out of no-were. As a consumer, I've found that it's quite easy to deny a charge for very little reason.
Engine coolant is piped from the radiator to a small radiator in the cab which air blows over. Thus cooling the engine a bit faster in the process and using waste heat for something usefull.
TIP: if your in a traffic jam and your engine overheats, turn on your heater.
There's an intersting point.
I live in quite cold climate(last week's high was -15F), and getting gas powered cars to start and warm up is a challenge. The number ONE problem we have is batteries going dead overnight in the cold. You can trickle charge them or put a warmer on them to prevent it, but if the entire car runs on battery I would imagine the battery life to be very poor.
Then, tack on the heater issue... Sounds pretty infeasible around these parts. Although, a possible solution would be to do what is currently done with gas cars, and pipe whatever excess heat is made by the motor into the cab. I'm not sure how much that would produce, but it would increase the efficiency a bit.
I've seen a few cold weather tests for hybrid and turbo desiel around here. The hybrids seem to crap out about -10F to -15F and a few of the TD seem to drop out about -35F. The gas, assuming it starts, don't have issues running in cold.
So the $3 million the ISP I work for pays for bandwith for only 15,000 customers is cheap?
but three hundred sixty five a year?
crap... my macs are REALLy gonna get NAILED in 2008!!! 366 NOOOOOO
er.. wait.. my macs never get anything. Nevermind