this isn't generally done to protect the government from libel charges, it's done to avoid releasing embarrassing information.
True enough. Striking something from the official record is abused. That doesn't mean the actual act is somehow nefarious and has no good purpose the way people in this discussion are claiming. It's there to prevent abuse (from inserting factually incorrect or wild claims into public record), and the mechanism itself is sometimes abused.
But then, that's why reporters and historians run down the originals to see what was striken.;)
And the other reason which you brought up - keeping classified information quiet (like the names of information sources that should not be published) is another very valid use of striking things from the record.
If I had information that I didn't want the public to see...
The people who are replying to this story are some of the most immature idiots with zero knowledge of government. Has NOBODY worked for our legal or justice system? Anybody ever graduate high school civics?
Information is blacked out and the black marks are LEFT there intentionally to SHOW that something was blacked out. If they wanted to "hide" the information, they would excise it. They don't. They *want* you to know that something was taken out.
The reason information is blacked out is because it was found to be factually incorrect or otherwise not reliable to be placed into public record and used as a cite for future legal uses. If I was a clerk and started filing things that said "Senator Smith is a satan worshiper who kills cats" and it turns out that I just have an axe to grind and am making up bullshit, then everywhere I filed that information is blacked out. If a witness on a stand says "Oh, and he rapes puppies too", and it turns out that the witness was lying, the information is "stricken from the record", but a *note* is make that it was strinken, and how much was stricken.
It's not to hide anything - if you want the original report, subpoena, etc., the easiest thing to do is go back to the original author and ask for the original filing. Reporters and historians do it all the time (since the press does not have to have the same standards that the legal and legislative system does).
Jebus - has nobody reading this entire site ever read a subpoena?
And that was the sound of *my* joke going right over your head (hint: electrons don't orbit - in fact, they don't move in the classic macroscopic sense. That's why the whole "nucleus with the electrons orbiting around it", i.e., the Bohr model, has been abandoned for many decades now. Thus a single atom is *not* a model of the solar system).
Sigh. I had to explain it. I knew I would. And the guy who got it and corrected you by pointing out that I misspelled 'Bore' is now moderated -1, Troll.
So, what was the one with metors coming in, and we knocked them out only to discover that they were alien craft... and ended with the earth being bombarded by metors?
IIRC, the creator of that did several other "news story" movies made for TV. They were quite good (for a made for TV movie), and starred real news anchors.
So, tell me again how jet planes sound different in the middle of the night as opposed to, say, at 10 am?
Well, I wasn't the first one to tell you, but commercial jet planes landing past certain hours modulate the landing to produce less noise. I'm sure that somebody with more knowledge can elaborate, but due to regulations around airports, night passes have the much tighter rein on engine power and/or "shuttering" (I have no idea the technical term). In addition, they are fined at most airports for coming in after a deadline.
I lived right next to PBI (and thus one of America's two numbers stations) for a couple years. The deadline there was 10pm. Right at 9:45, you had a flurry of planes coming in, and if you listened to the whine, you could tell if it was after 10pm.
Arg. This always drives me nuts and is my pet peeve.
There are only three observed spatial dimensions. There is one temporal dimension. In many equations, you can flip back and forth among all four equally, but that does *not* mean that time is a coordinate system that is the same as the three spatial dimensions!
In fact, if you watch the utterly redundant and repetative and repetitous Nova episodes (how many times did he tell us that there are these three and that one force and they don't reconcile?), you'll note that several of the interviewed physicists referred to three plus one, rather than simply calling them four. As a mathematical model, time can be treated as a dimension. As a functional aspect of observation, it is not the same as the three spatial dimensions.
String theory adds new non-linear spatial dimensions (like circles versus lines).
Call their Oakland California office. For years I've been using it and calling it Soo-See. It turns out that it's pronounced Soo-Saw. (And yes, it was a call to the Oakland office inquiring as to when 8.2 would be available for a test cluster that led to enlightenment).
How _would_ former SuSE employees take the new GNOME focus? Probably pretty well, but you never know.
Considering that SuSE is the single largest employer of KDE developers (with Trolltech itself coming in second, IIRC), I doubt it would go over "pretty well".
Some of KDE's top developers are at SuSE and consider SuSE to have a KDE friendly and oriented corporate culture.
There's a generic brand of Soy Sauce (sold at Nugget Groceries, IIRC) that has "All Intellectual Property Rights Reserved" in an stern looking box on the side of the bottle. Swan Soy Sauce, maybe?
How many emulators have been released for the Zodiac? I mean, the whole point behind the GP32 is actually the fact that you can stuff a whole bunch of SNES or GameBoy roms on a CF card and play them.
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Don't you get it? this is SubGenius prose, so of course it's going to be a bit purple. It's just fun and games.
Of course all the pinkboys don't get it. I wonder what smidgen of a percent of Slashdot readers understand the book and where it's coming from.
My SO and I were going through Revelation X the other day, and we were talking about how textbooks and papers (she's doing chem grad work), would benefit from the SubGenius vantage point. As in serious works with overblown language and points. There's an old old Pascal, Fortran or Forth book (I can't recall which) which is like this - the programs do horrible things if you read through their variables and have cartoon art. The Transitive Vampire is also similar. But one written with the SubGenius ethic of "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke" would be great.
I for one would not trust California's government website either. There are government mandated signs all over the place saying "The State of California has determined that..." and then make a wide varity of claims regarding cancer, health risks and moral issues.
Science by legislation is one of the more worrisome aspects of California.
Remember, this is a state that has billboards all over the place proudly proclaiming that they are "nuclear free". My SO and I joke that that's a very very negative statement.
Scientific Something or other. Silver, small, no LCD screen. But with a $24 memory card (64 MB?) you get plenty of photos, and you can just delete the bad ones when you get home (gphoto2 + kuickshow). It takes grainy, lousy quicktime clips too (MPlayer plays 'em fine in native mode). $50 for the camera, $50 for the "accessory pack" (which I didn't get). Nabbed it from a little display in front of the electronics 'fortress'.
It takes really quite nice photos in full light. Using the flash, every third or fourth photo comes out oddly blurred, like one of those cheap Russian cameras that were trendy for awhile. Fine for always having on you and shooting memories or cool things by the side of the road (or on the road). I'm taking excellent shots of all the leathered up hog riders on the freeway from inside my car, not to mention all the trains.
When I was in Florida, this guy was great. He pickets arcades. The media eats it up and does tight shots making it look like there are more than five people there with four bored kids.
If it ran Qtopia and did 3.2 megapixel, I'd get it. If I didn't have specific needs for a PDA (I have a bunch of custom Palm apps that I'd much much rather write and maintain on a POSIX system), I'd drop the Qtopia requirement.
Oh, and if I weren't sick and tired of trying to deal with the 'nifty in theory but in practice braindead' Palm OS, I'd go for a Treo. But my next PDA system will be easier to write custom apps for (again, I'm the exception to the market there). Plus, my $50 3.2 megapixel camera from Wal*Mart sees much more action than my nice film camera simply because of my "it's always on me" credo (What - $50 + $24 for the memory card... I can lose that an not weep too much). I now have more pictures of trains in NorCal than anybody else in existance.
Battery life is an issue, but I have no problem charging nightly, especially if I can toss it on a charger in the car if I forget.
One of the reasons I like KDE is that, under the hood, it *does* have the feel of Unix. The code itself is very Unixy, and the way signals/slots works feels like pipes. In addition, DCOP exposes all those points to everything from shell scripts to manual poking to Perl to C. It's protected by the same uid/gid process permissions that everything else on the system is.
Run KDE and use the command line 'dcop' program. If you're a GUI kinda user, use kdcop (hit alt-F2 and type kdcop). Take a look at how functions are selectively exposed and how variables in running processes can be altered. Fun stuff. The first time you piece together pieces of programs, slap a UI on it and create your own "program" without touching a compiler is akin to when you first discovered "rm $(find . |grep '.backup$')" was rolling off your fingertips.
NASA... credibility... BAHAHAH!!!! Really, you kill me. Sniff. Chuckle.
Whereas dot com sites have been shown to have their veracity unimpugnable.
Really, this article is "Bah! NASA got it wrong AGAIN!!", when the photo appeared on a NASA publicity site and then was corrected two days later - much earlier than this article was written.
Yes, yes there was. Crystal Wind BBS had it (that was mine), as did several other systems. What BBSes were you on? You're talking to the orginal Gandalf (1981ish), Grey Elf ('84-'86ish), Xandar (87ish-90ish) and finally the intentionally misspelled JabberWokky. I was on Panther's Byte, Little Red's, Screaming in Digital, Mostly Harmless, 4Cs and many others. There's at least one other oldschool 305/407/561 BBSer on here. (obNote: You BBSed a long time when the areacodes changed three times).
I was also user account #5 (jw) on Florida Internet (the first non-owner/admin account), now part of Verio/NTT. Good times - the office fridge was loaded with beer, and they let users hang out in the office.
As to Prodigy, my rant was more humerous than real. I was also on Prodigy back when it was CGA, and SimCGA worked fine with Hercules cards.
Did'ja know that the news servers for Prodigy ran out of the Palm Beach Post building on Belvedere and Olive? I have part of one of the PBP's PDP terminals - 36 bits of toggle switching power.
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You're one of the sunovabitches that destroyed the internet (f@11)!!!
Way back when it was just us chickens on the net, you had zero spam, and a reasonable assumption that the person you were talking to was at least an undergrad and more likely grad school or held a doctorate. Then BIX set up a gateway. It wasn't *so* bad. But then the delphoids invaded. Damn Delphi users watered down the net, ran amuck on usenet (this was before the web was invented), and otherwise ignored tradition and netiquette, didn't know who Kibo was, didn't have a clue as to what an S-100 bus was...
Then AOL. That was hellish, yes. But then it was *you* *people*. Prodigy was the worst collection of inane idiots to hit the net. Shortly thereafter, Canter and Siegel sent out the first mass advertising transmission, Mosaic appeared, and the great decline began.
Now get me another drink while I sit here in my rocker on the front porch and wave my cane at the kids, yelling at them to get off the grass. Heh.
I do know a few phrases in esperanto, though. Only the ones from Red Dwarf, however. A friend knew several "industrial phrases" in esperanto that he would say at times - stuff like "please keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle before closing the door. This vehicle will not start moving until all doors are securely fastened shut". No idea where he picked it up, but he also knew a large number of computerized and rote phrases by heart (like the Disneyworld peoplemover and monorail recitations).
I've played around with webmin, but I installed it on a new server, and it saved my butt from a two hour drive. I was well away from home when a problem hit, and Kinkos does not have ssh. I wound up using webmin seriously for the first time and fixed the problem. (And four hours later, every password on every server was changed by yours truely because I don't trust those systems.:) ).
Does the book cover virtualmin, the virtual domain manager in webmin? That's a real time saver right there, and unlike Plesk, it leaves the resulting files alone so you can hand edit them later. Nice.
I used to buy expensive pens, but the new Uniball Signo Gelstick 0.7 is GREAT. In fear that they will stop making them, I have bought three more packs of five since the inital "I need a pen to sign this card" purchace. They are cheapie (around a dollar or so a pen) pens that write with the quality of nice art or signature pens.
I've been debating getting a bulk order to stock up, but I can't decide if they will all dry out and die in a year or two. Fantastic pen. I've found them at Safeway and RiteAid, but not when I looked for them at two of the big three office supply stores (OfficeMax and either Office Depot or Staples).
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True enough. Striking something from the official record is abused. That doesn't mean the actual act is somehow nefarious and has no good purpose the way people in this discussion are claiming. It's there to prevent abuse (from inserting factually incorrect or wild claims into public record), and the mechanism itself is sometimes abused.
But then, that's why reporters and historians run down the originals to see what was striken. ;)
And the other reason which you brought up - keeping classified information quiet (like the names of information sources that should not be published) is another very valid use of striking things from the record.
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Replace java with Qt/Embedded (a la the Zaurus and most other Linux handhelds), and you're right.
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The people who are replying to this story are some of the most immature idiots with zero knowledge of government. Has NOBODY worked for our legal or justice system? Anybody ever graduate high school civics?
Information is blacked out and the black marks are LEFT there intentionally to SHOW that something was blacked out. If they wanted to "hide" the information, they would excise it. They don't. They *want* you to know that something was taken out.
The reason information is blacked out is because it was found to be factually incorrect or otherwise not reliable to be placed into public record and used as a cite for future legal uses. If I was a clerk and started filing things that said "Senator Smith is a satan worshiper who kills cats" and it turns out that I just have an axe to grind and am making up bullshit, then everywhere I filed that information is blacked out. If a witness on a stand says "Oh, and he rapes puppies too", and it turns out that the witness was lying, the information is "stricken from the record", but a *note* is make that it was strinken, and how much was stricken.
It's not to hide anything - if you want the original report, subpoena, etc., the easiest thing to do is go back to the original author and ask for the original filing. Reporters and historians do it all the time (since the press does not have to have the same standards that the legal and legislative system does).
Jebus - has nobody reading this entire site ever read a subpoena?
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And that was the sound of *my* joke going right over your head (hint: electrons don't orbit - in fact, they don't move in the classic macroscopic sense. That's why the whole "nucleus with the electrons orbiting around it", i.e., the Bohr model, has been abandoned for many decades now. Thus a single atom is *not* a model of the solar system).
Sigh. I had to explain it. I knew I would. And the guy who got it and corrected you by pointing out that I misspelled 'Bore' is now moderated -1, Troll.
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No, you can't. I won't Bohr you with the details of why you're wrong (or at least about 50 years out of date).
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IIRC, the creator of that did several other "news story" movies made for TV. They were quite good (for a made for TV movie), and starred real news anchors.
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Well, I wasn't the first one to tell you, but commercial jet planes landing past certain hours modulate the landing to produce less noise. I'm sure that somebody with more knowledge can elaborate, but due to regulations around airports, night passes have the much tighter rein on engine power and/or "shuttering" (I have no idea the technical term). In addition, they are fined at most airports for coming in after a deadline.
I lived right next to PBI (and thus one of America's two numbers stations) for a couple years. The deadline there was 10pm. Right at 9:45, you had a flurry of planes coming in, and if you listened to the whine, you could tell if it was after 10pm.
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There are only three observed spatial dimensions. There is one temporal dimension. In many equations, you can flip back and forth among all four equally, but that does *not* mean that time is a coordinate system that is the same as the three spatial dimensions!
In fact, if you watch the utterly redundant and repetative and repetitous Nova episodes (how many times did he tell us that there are these three and that one force and they don't reconcile?), you'll note that several of the interviewed physicists referred to three plus one, rather than simply calling them four. As a mathematical model, time can be treated as a dimension. As a functional aspect of observation, it is not the same as the three spatial dimensions.
String theory adds new non-linear spatial dimensions (like circles versus lines).
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Considering that SuSE is the single largest employer of KDE developers (with Trolltech itself coming in second, IIRC), I doubt it would go over "pretty well".
Some of KDE's top developers are at SuSE and consider SuSE to have a KDE friendly and oriented corporate culture.
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Of course all the pinkboys don't get it. I wonder what smidgen of a percent of Slashdot readers understand the book and where it's coming from.
My SO and I were going through Revelation X the other day, and we were talking about how textbooks and papers (she's doing chem grad work), would benefit from the SubGenius vantage point. As in serious works with overblown language and points. There's an old old Pascal, Fortran or Forth book (I can't recall which) which is like this - the programs do horrible things if you read through their variables and have cartoon art. The Transitive Vampire is also similar. But one written with the SubGenius ethic of "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke" would be great.
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Science by legislation is one of the more worrisome aspects of California.
Remember, this is a state that has billboards all over the place proudly proclaiming that they are "nuclear free". My SO and I joke that that's a very very negative statement.
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It takes really quite nice photos in full light. Using the flash, every third or fourth photo comes out oddly blurred, like one of those cheap Russian cameras that were trendy for awhile. Fine for always having on you and shooting memories or cool things by the side of the road (or on the road). I'm taking excellent shots of all the leathered up hog riders on the freeway from inside my car, not to mention all the trains.
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Oh, and if I weren't sick and tired of trying to deal with the 'nifty in theory but in practice braindead' Palm OS, I'd go for a Treo. But my next PDA system will be easier to write custom apps for (again, I'm the exception to the market there). Plus, my $50 3.2 megapixel camera from Wal*Mart sees much more action than my nice film camera simply because of my "it's always on me" credo (What - $50 + $24 for the memory card... I can lose that an not weep too much). I now have more pictures of trains in NorCal than anybody else in existance.
Battery life is an issue, but I have no problem charging nightly, especially if I can toss it on a charger in the car if I forget.
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Run KDE and use the command line 'dcop' program. If you're a GUI kinda user, use kdcop (hit alt-F2 and type kdcop). Take a look at how functions are selectively exposed and how variables in running processes can be altered. Fun stuff. The first time you piece together pieces of programs, slap a UI on it and create your own "program" without touching a compiler is akin to when you first discovered "rm $(find . |grep '.backup$')" was rolling off your fingertips.
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Whereas dot com sites have been shown to have their veracity unimpugnable.
Really, this article is "Bah! NASA got it wrong AGAIN!!", when the photo appeared on a NASA publicity site and then was corrected two days later - much earlier than this article was written.
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Yes, yes there was. Crystal Wind BBS had it (that was mine), as did several other systems. What BBSes were you on? You're talking to the orginal Gandalf (1981ish), Grey Elf ('84-'86ish), Xandar (87ish-90ish) and finally the intentionally misspelled JabberWokky. I was on Panther's Byte, Little Red's, Screaming in Digital, Mostly Harmless, 4Cs and many others. There's at least one other oldschool 305/407/561 BBSer on here. (obNote: You BBSed a long time when the areacodes changed three times).
I was also user account #5 (jw) on Florida Internet (the first non-owner/admin account), now part of Verio/NTT. Good times - the office fridge was loaded with beer, and they let users hang out in the office.
As to Prodigy, my rant was more humerous than real. I was also on Prodigy back when it was CGA, and SimCGA worked fine with Hercules cards.
Did'ja know that the news servers for Prodigy ran out of the Palm Beach Post building on Belvedere and Olive? I have part of one of the PBP's PDP terminals - 36 bits of toggle switching power.
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Evan "Babbling detected... shutting off coffee supply now"
Way back when it was just us chickens on the net, you had zero spam, and a reasonable assumption that the person you were talking to was at least an undergrad and more likely grad school or held a doctorate. Then BIX set up a gateway. It wasn't *so* bad. But then the delphoids invaded. Damn Delphi users watered down the net, ran amuck on usenet (this was before the web was invented), and otherwise ignored tradition and netiquette, didn't know who Kibo was, didn't have a clue as to what an S-100 bus was...
Then AOL. That was hellish, yes. But then it was *you* *people*. Prodigy was the worst collection of inane idiots to hit the net. Shortly thereafter, Canter and Siegel sent out the first mass advertising transmission, Mosaic appeared, and the great decline began.
Now get me another drink while I sit here in my rocker on the front porch and wave my cane at the kids, yelling at them to get off the grass. Heh.
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I do know a few phrases in esperanto, though. Only the ones from Red Dwarf, however. A friend knew several "industrial phrases" in esperanto that he would say at times - stuff like "please keep your hands and feet inside the vehicle before closing the door. This vehicle will not start moving until all doors are securely fastened shut". No idea where he picked it up, but he also knew a large number of computerized and rote phrases by heart (like the Disneyworld peoplemover and monorail recitations).
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Does the book cover virtualmin, the virtual domain manager in webmin? That's a real time saver right there, and unlike Plesk, it leaves the resulting files alone so you can hand edit them later. Nice.
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I've been debating getting a bulk order to stock up, but I can't decide if they will all dry out and die in a year or two. Fantastic pen. I've found them at Safeway and RiteAid, but not when I looked for them at two of the big three office supply stores (OfficeMax and either Office Depot or Staples).
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