You state that we should instead go after the people making the pornography and those hosting the sites instead of stomping on their rights. What if these sites are not in this country? What if Iraq is hosting the sites? Do you think they're going to listen to us? Do you think we should protect thier rights even though our laws don't apply to them?
This is a specfic issue regarding specific technology and specific illegal material where the most appropriate means are being used to discourage the underlying illegal behavior. That's what we have courts for in the first place, to look at legal matters on an individual basis. The judge did not decree that anybody that wants to block a site, they should e-mail him the IP address and he'll take care of it.
Let me also address certain parts of your post.
You say everybody has certain god-given rights. Which god? Your god? I don't have a god so do I have any rights?
"To outright block the ip does a disservice to all affected" - so you feel that we are causing harm to the child pornographers and future child molesters of the world? I'm not affected by the blocking of those types of sites. Are you affected? If not, I wouldn't be to concerned if I were you. See the second paragraph again if you need to know why.
Nice quote, real original, haven't seen that posted here 8,000 times before and used for dozens of peoples sigs.
Yeah, yeah, shame on us for chipping away at the rights of the poor hard working child pornographers and the little ol' billion dollar telecoms.
Do you always rely on one-liners from people that have died almost 3 decades ago to decide what your opinions should be, especially on technological issues that didn't exist when the original statement was made?
I understand what you're saying but I just don't think it's worth getting worried or upset yet.
If/when that stuff happens, the flak from the other states should be enough to cause some sort of reform within the system regarding censorship on the Internet. That battle is going to happen eventually. It's better to get it out of the way sooner rather than later, but this isn't the battle, that's all I'm saying.
Who's to say that by going the other way and saying certain providers aren't liable for anything could have plenty of negative results too.
HARRISBURG, Pennsylvania -- WorldCom, the bankrupt long-distance voice and data services company, was ordered by a judge to deny access to five child pornography sites to its Pennsylvania customers, the state Attorney General said Wednesday.
The block isn't nationwide, it's for Pennsylvania. I'll admit it might be tricky to implement and they may just say to hell with it and block the sites nationwide. And so what? How is blocking some kiddie porn sites affecting our rights? I think we need to take these type of things in context.
We're not opening a Pandora's box that will allow a NY senator to shut down a CA homepage that has some negative opinions of them on it. It's child porn! It's not like there's a state in the US that says it's legal. If every state went ahead and had to file a motion against WorldCom to block the same 5 sites, then everyone would be upset that so much money was wasted.
What! No 220 outlets! Outrageous. What am I suppose to do if I want to wash and dry my laundry while driving? Somebody didn't think this design through.
Sure. I'd bet Steve Jobs would love to see this in the marketplace, being the calm rational guy that he is. He wouldn't do anything like publicly yell at a small company selling watches with the Mac logo on them or anything for no good reason.
Well, the article specifically says you should just but stuff off eBay. So assuming you find somebody will to sell with no reserve and start the bidding low, and misspell some common words so nobody finds the auction and runs up the price, you could have a nice cheap system. But good luck finding all the parts you need in the first place.
Have any of those other bands released an album with the name of the band they copied music from in big bold letters on the cover, and their own name in fine print at the bottom?
Don't forget the memorable films where he wasn't a confused moron uttering "whoa" every chance he got, like, uh, that, um..., there was that one movie, uh..., hmm....
I've been using Maxtor for almost 5 years now, never had a problem that was their fault (Windows rage once caused the death of a 4GB drive, but that was an isolated incident). Aside from that, I've never had a bad sector.
It's been awhile, but aren't they still the unreliable, bargain-basement drives that no self-respecting geek would use? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
If you get nervous about a week before the warranty expires, just power it up and smack it against something hard, but not hard enough to dent it. Then call them and say it just died.
I'd like pieces that have easily removable sticks on them that say "up", "down", "left", "right" instead of "A". I've not once put together a piece of furniture where I didn't put something backwards in the first 3 steps, only to realize it on the last step.
My biggest complaint is figuring our how to take toys out of the box in the first place. Get a chainsaw to cut through the sealed plastic casing, undo 30 twist ties, find the 3 hidden screws, and finally cut the 10 feet of mailing tape wrapped around it.
I'm exaggerating a little here, but last year a bought a couple toy cars, about twice as big as a Matchbox, and not only did it have two twist ties running through the body, but it was SCREWED to a piece of cardboard with really tiny screws and really big washers! I had to go dig out my mini screwdriver set for a small toy car! Then I ended up stripping the screws anyways. I finally ended up just breaking the screws out of the plastic with a pair of pliers.
Adelphia used to run a 30 second advertisement for their sports package when you called their tech support number. Then you got to endure a half-hour wait. They've improved that though since last year. Now you get an idiot on the phone within 2 minutes, that tells you to reboot your computer and/or reset your cable modem.
I know about techtales.com for posting stupid user stories, but is there a site for people to post stories about their experiences with stupid "technicians"?
I was the only one that knew anything about programming in my high school BASIC class. It was taught by a 60 year old lady that had taken a single COBOL class at one point so she had more programming experience than any other teacher.
Due to my "genius" status, I got the luxury of working on the only color monitor in the class which also happened to have a HD. Everybody else had monochrome XTs with dual 5.25" floppy drives (this was probably 1990). She wanted me to do something with graphics for a final project an I was a real smart-ass so I filled the screen with a gradient. Her challenge to me was to make the gradient go in the opposite direction. She said "good job" and gave me an A for it.
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For the biologists here, is it possible for someone to spontaneously mummify?
This is a specfic issue regarding specific technology and specific illegal material where the most appropriate means are being used to discourage the underlying illegal behavior. That's what we have courts for in the first place, to look at legal matters on an individual basis. The judge did not decree that anybody that wants to block a site, they should e-mail him the IP address and he'll take care of it.
Let me also address certain parts of your post.
Nice quote, real original, haven't seen that posted here 8,000 times before and used for dozens of peoples sigs.
Yeah, yeah, shame on us for chipping away at the rights of the poor hard working child pornographers and the little ol' billion dollar telecoms.
Do you always rely on one-liners from people that have died almost 3 decades ago to decide what your opinions should be, especially on technological issues that didn't exist when the original statement was made?
I understand what you're saying but I just don't think it's worth getting worried or upset yet.
If/when that stuff happens, the flak from the other states should be enough to cause some sort of reform within the system regarding censorship on the Internet. That battle is going to happen eventually. It's better to get it out of the way sooner rather than later, but this isn't the battle, that's all I'm saying.
Who's to say that by going the other way and saying certain providers aren't liable for anything could have plenty of negative results too.
HARRISBURG, Pennsylvania -- WorldCom, the bankrupt long-distance voice and data services company, was ordered by a judge to deny access to five child pornography sites to its Pennsylvania customers, the state Attorney General said Wednesday.
The block isn't nationwide, it's for Pennsylvania. I'll admit it might be tricky to implement and they may just say to hell with it and block the sites nationwide. And so what? How is blocking some kiddie porn sites affecting our rights? I think we need to take these type of things in context.
We're not opening a Pandora's box that will allow a NY senator to shut down a CA homepage that has some negative opinions of them on it. It's child porn! It's not like there's a state in the US that says it's legal. If every state went ahead and had to file a motion against WorldCom to block the same 5 sites, then everyone would be upset that so much money was wasted.
Choose your battles wisely.
It's the other way around. The more CPU usage you have, the slower your connection.
What! No 220 outlets! Outrageous. What am I suppose to do if I want to wash and dry my laundry while driving? Somebody didn't think this design through.
Sure. I'd bet Steve Jobs would love to see this in the marketplace, being the calm rational guy that he is. He wouldn't do anything like publicly yell at a small company selling watches with the Mac logo on them or anything for no good reason.
Well, the article specifically says you should just but stuff off eBay. So assuming you find somebody will to sell with no reserve and start the bidding low, and misspell some common words so nobody finds the auction and runs up the price, you could have a nice cheap system. But good luck finding all the parts you need in the first place.
Have any of those other bands released an album with the name of the band they copied music from in big bold letters on the cover, and their own name in fine print at the bottom?
Don't forget the memorable films where he wasn't a confused moron uttering "whoa" every chance he got, like, uh, that, um..., there was that one movie, uh..., hmm....
Aw, nevermind.
One of the 5 suspected terrorists arrested in Buffalo was a telemarketer.
Hmmm, the search doesn't go back far enough. But there's been about 1250 posts referencing goatse.cx in the last 14 months.
1994 was the first non-chinese text/amiga code instance in the newsgroups. Man I'm bored.
That explains why there were question marks in the answers Alton provided earlier today. I figured he just couldn't type very well.
Wow that's deep. The last time I was that amazed what when I first heard a wise philosopher state "What if C-A-T really spelled Dog"?.
I've been using Maxtor for almost 5 years now, never had a problem that was their fault (Windows rage once caused the death of a 4GB drive, but that was an isolated incident). Aside from that, I've never had a bad sector.
It's been awhile, but aren't they still the unreliable, bargain-basement drives that no self-respecting geek would use? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
If you get nervous about a week before the warranty expires, just power it up and smack it against something hard, but not hard enough to dent it. Then call them and say it just died.
Hey, these were the cheap toys for the kid! The good ones are still in the closet ;)
I'd like pieces that have easily removable sticks on them that say "up", "down", "left", "right" instead of "A". I've not once put together a piece of furniture where I didn't put something backwards in the first 3 steps, only to realize it on the last step.
My biggest complaint is figuring our how to take toys out of the box in the first place. Get a chainsaw to cut through the sealed plastic casing, undo 30 twist ties, find the 3 hidden screws, and finally cut the 10 feet of mailing tape wrapped around it.
I'm exaggerating a little here, but last year a bought a couple toy cars, about twice as big as a Matchbox, and not only did it have two twist ties running through the body, but it was SCREWED to a piece of cardboard with really tiny screws and really big washers! I had to go dig out my mini screwdriver set for a small toy car! Then I ended up stripping the screws anyways. I finally ended up just breaking the screws out of the plastic with a pair of pliers.
Adelphia used to run a 30 second advertisement for their sports package when you called their tech support number. Then you got to endure a half-hour wait. They've improved that though since last year. Now you get an idiot on the phone within 2 minutes, that tells you to reboot your computer and/or reset your cable modem.
I know about techtales.com for posting stupid user stories, but is there a site for people to post stories about their experiences with stupid "technicians"?
That's going to bug me now because I can't remember the name of that movie. Somebody, what was it?
I was the only one that knew anything about programming in my high school BASIC class. It was taught by a 60 year old lady that had taken a single COBOL class at one point so she had more programming experience than any other teacher.
Due to my "genius" status, I got the luxury of working on the only color monitor in the class which also happened to have a HD. Everybody else had monochrome XTs with dual 5.25" floppy drives (this was probably 1990). She wanted me to do something with graphics for a final project an I was a real smart-ass so I filled the screen with a gradient. Her challenge to me was to make the gradient go in the opposite direction. She said "good job" and gave me an A for it.