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I like how 802.11 is being called "4G". Think of how much egg the telcos will get on their face for spending $Bs on 3G licenses - and then being upstaged by something as simple as ethernet!
More seriously, this is a good idea. By the way, SBUX has a few locations now with 802.11 in the cafe for surfing with your laptop - not quite the same scale, but similar in that they are filling in the coverage gaps where other carriers fear to tread (or go bankrupt - e.g. Ricochet).
It just figures that they would create a technology that would so damage one of their other products that you would have to buy the second product again.
Having been through several disposable-Discmen, I'm not surprised at all.
Perhaps there could be a "Females" topic? (It is relevant to geeks, no?) Of course, Taco would probably come up with a dumbass logo, and then there goes the audience even further.
Go Blue indeed! I write this from A2 where I'm in class this week. This needs to be up at 5 immediately, for no other reason that simply Michigan fucking kicks ass.
Hey, did you see the joint press release that EFF put out with Adobe? Interesting.
Note in particular their agreement that Skylarov should be freed - but Adobe's insistence that DMCA is okay, along with EFF's mushy "while we don't agree on everything" comment. While this is good for Skylarov, EFF needs to be careful not to concede too much to the supporters of the DMCA here - if the objective is to get it overturned or reformed, they should make that emphatically clear!
Will is trying to negotiate in good faith with Adobe. Putting the protest on hold pending such discussion is appropriate. People need to be ready to resume at any moment, however, if Adobe is full of shit.
While Dimitry is certainly being treated unfairly, the criminal provisions of the DMCA cannot be thrown out as unconstitutional if it doesn't go to court.
Yes. Definitely. This is the test case opponents need to get DMCA overturned!
EFF should not cave in until that outcome is achieved! (Of course, this should not be used as an excuse to keep Dmitry in jail, or in the US.)
and as you all should know, MS distributes various utilities under the GPL. GPL says clearly, emphasis added:
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I think this is quite clear in delineating what is "commingled" vs. what is not - and it's on their website!
Probably not. I've seen various CDs with blank tracks between music tracks, just because. Cracker's "Kerosene Hat" is one - you have to skip to track 69 for their one hit wonder, "Eurotrash Girl." Classic example of a CD I'd never buy in the era of gnutella.
WTF? I am shocked that Steve didn't introduce _________ [new feature] that _________ [big OS vendor] has had for years! And why didn't the _________ [model] come in a _________ [weird-ass design] instead of these _________ [abusive term 1], _________ [abusive term 2] toys for _________ [derisive term for Mac users]. Clearly Apple is never going to provide the leading _________ [OS, PC, 802.11 hub, video standard, etc.] because they are so far out of touch with _________ [broadly written user type that includes ME]. Instead they spend all their time cracking down on _________ [favorite Mac rumor site] and writing crap like _________ [crappy consumer utility] I'll never use.
Aw, fuck it, I'll switch to _________ [Yellow Dog / LinuxPPC / WinXP]. That will show those _________ [derisive term for corporate types] in Cupertino. Just as soon as it supports _________ [fancy Mac feature that nobody uses] and has a better user interface than Mac OS _________ [6, 7, 8, 9, X]. Watch out, Steve, you're going to lose a _________ [number > 10] year Apple loyalist!
I have no plans to go to digital TV. None whatsoever. There is zero value in it for me. I bet there are millions out there with the same attitude! Spectrum return dates notwithstanding, if nobody has switched, analog TV won't go away. The networks just won't give up their audience like that.
You may be violating your ISP's TOS if you only have one IP address and are NATing it out to Joe User on the street. If you have multiple IP addresses and let random people use them, I don't see the problem.
Now if someone starts spamming or DOSing from your account, and you get booted off your service, that will also be your problem. You are responsible for whatever goes down that wire.
(Full disclosure: I work for an ISP offering DSL service; our TOS behave this way, and I'm sure your ISP's do as well.)
802.11 works great. It generates traffic, right? So ISPs should be delighted that it's out there, because it will lead to more users on more high-capacity lines in more locations. I sell DSL for a living and would be thrilled to have freenets buying my service (AS LONG AS THEY PAY THE BILLS). Where's the downside? I don't see it.
In the US, Contour was discontinued a year or so ago.
It's an interesting automotive story. Mondeo was initially intended as a "world car" - that would be designed centrally for the Euro, US, Latin American, Asian, etc. markets instead of separately. Ford invested over $1B in this effort, but although Mondeo has been successful in the Euro market, Contour (and Mercury Mystique) never took off in the US. They had to rework it significantly to accommodate Americans' preferences (big-ass cupholders, auto transmission) and so the economies of scale never happened in the way that Ford expected.
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PPP: Petite Personal Pizza
IPSEC: Individual Pizza: Sausage, Eggplant, and Cheese
PCMCIA: Pizza with Cheese: Mozzarella, Camembert, Iberico, and Asiago
and so on...
More seriously, this is a good idea. By the way, SBUX has a few locations now with 802.11 in the cafe for surfing with your laptop - not quite the same scale, but similar in that they are filling in the coverage gaps where other carriers fear to tread (or go bankrupt - e.g. Ricochet).
and so owns the copyright, and can do WTF he wants with his code (while leaving the GPL version out there). C'est tout, n'est-ce pas?
Having been through several disposable-Discmen, I'm not surprised at all.
Really?
Perhaps there could be a "Females" topic? (It is relevant to geeks, no?) Of course, Taco would probably come up with a dumbass logo, and then there goes the audience even further.
Except Anne Marie, of course.
KQED radio (San Francisco) had a bit on the Dmitry protests today also. Are stations in other markets covering this?
Wasn't he hired by Napster to do a concert series last year? (Good use of VC guys)
this was one of the best Wired articles. Too bad they haven't done stuff like this since (Bill Joy's "influential" article notwithsanding).
Go Blue indeed! I write this from A2 where I'm in class this week. This needs to be up at 5 immediately, for no other reason that simply Michigan fucking kicks ass.
Note in particular their agreement that Skylarov should be freed - but Adobe's insistence that DMCA is okay, along with EFF's mushy "while we don't agree on everything" comment. While this is good for Skylarov, EFF needs to be careful not to concede too much to the supporters of the DMCA here - if the objective is to get it overturned or reformed, they should make that emphatically clear!
Will is trying to negotiate in good faith with Adobe. Putting the protest on hold pending such discussion is appropriate. People need to be ready to resume at any moment, however, if Adobe is full of shit.
Yes. Definitely. This is the test case opponents need to get DMCA overturned!
EFF should not cave in until that outcome is achieved! (Of course, this should not be used as an excuse to keep Dmitry in jail, or in the US.)
I guess so ... I've mostly recovered from the days of my Powerbook 5300 (shudder).
check it out here. Keep rating it 7 to keep it at the top!
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Thus, it is not the intent of this section to claim rights or contest your rights to work written entirely by you; rather, the intent is to exercise the right to control the distribution of derivative or collective works based on the Program.
In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based on the Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on a volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other work under the scope of this License.
I think this is quite clear in delineating what is "commingled" vs. what is not - and it's on their website!
Probably not. I've seen various CDs with blank tracks between music tracks, just because. Cracker's "Kerosene Hat" is one - you have to skip to track 69 for their one hit wonder, "Eurotrash Girl." Classic example of a CD I'd never buy in the era of gnutella.
WTF? I am shocked that Steve didn't introduce _________ [new feature] that _________ [big OS vendor] has had for years! And why didn't the _________ [model] come in a _________ [weird-ass design] instead of these _________ [abusive term 1], _________ [abusive term 2] toys for _________ [derisive term for Mac users]. Clearly Apple is never going to provide the leading _________ [OS, PC, 802.11 hub, video standard, etc.] because they are so far out of touch with _________ [broadly written user type that includes ME]. Instead they spend all their time cracking down on _________ [favorite Mac rumor site] and writing crap like _________ [crappy consumer utility] I'll never use.
Aw, fuck it, I'll switch to _________ [Yellow Dog / LinuxPPC / WinXP]. That will show those _________ [derisive term for corporate types] in Cupertino. Just as soon as it supports _________ [fancy Mac feature that nobody uses] and has a better user interface than Mac OS _________ [6, 7, 8, 9, X]. Watch out, Steve, you're going to lose a _________ [number > 10] year Apple loyalist!
according to The Industry Standard. Too rich for my blood.
Do you really think they'll change over in 2006 when less than 10% of users have digital sets? No fscking way.
I have no plans to go to digital TV. None whatsoever. There is zero value in it for me. I bet there are millions out there with the same attitude! Spectrum return dates notwithstanding, if nobody has switched, analog TV won't go away. The networks just won't give up their audience like that.
Now if someone starts spamming or DOSing from your account, and you get booted off your service, that will also be your problem. You are responsible for whatever goes down that wire.
(Full disclosure: I work for an ISP offering DSL service; our TOS behave this way, and I'm sure your ISP's do as well.)
802.11 works great. It generates traffic, right? So ISPs should be delighted that it's out there, because it will lead to more users on more high-capacity lines in more locations. I sell DSL for a living and would be thrilled to have freenets buying my service (AS LONG AS THEY PAY THE BILLS). Where's the downside? I don't see it.
ISPs can sell DSL or T1 service to these guys. I would love to have that account.
It's an interesting automotive story. Mondeo was initially intended as a "world car" - that would be designed centrally for the Euro, US, Latin American, Asian, etc. markets instead of separately. Ford invested over $1B in this effort, but although Mondeo has been successful in the Euro market, Contour (and Mercury Mystique) never took off in the US. They had to rework it significantly to accommodate Americans' preferences (big-ass cupholders, auto transmission) and so the economies of scale never happened in the way that Ford expected.