Why should the US, or anyone else feel guilty for being seen as an "excuse" for the inexcusable?
There is no excuse ever to justify the deliberate and strategic killing of non-combatants, civilians and children, A.K.A Terrorism. Many have tried to justify it, or explain it but the fact is it is abhorrent and no one should feel like they deserved it because they simply didn't. THAT'S an excuse because it's far easier for the left to blame the US or any other life-loving democracy than tackle the real issues of Militant Islamic terrorism.
You were modded down because most other people on slashdot realize this.
Hello Anonymous Coward,
So what your saying is I was modded down because someone (one person, not most of Slashdot actually) disagreed with me. So they modded me down because they happened to have some mod points, rather than try and argue and attempt to disprove my point? Rather a weak way to win an argument don't you think? In fact, it means plenty of people won't get to see my argument and make up their own mind... Tell us the one about censorship!
As for pro-terroristic rhetoric building on "actual negative conditions in people's lives" bear in mind the Ethiopians, the Tibetans, the Native Americans, the Australian Aboriginals and any number of massively oppressed, hungry, occupied NON-MUSLIM victims of poverty have NOT taken to suicide bombing or deliberate shooting of children.
The difference, and the reason why is obvious and you are not arguing with what I said, but your own misinterpretation of it. Sorry Anonymous Coward, but hate is a major cause of terrorism (haev a look at what's shown on Arab Television if you don't believe me.
If stopping hate or the incitement of children to kill and murder, leads to a reduction in terror, that's fine by me even if you (anonymous coward) believe it's censorship.
Given that most of the news of this story was reported through Indy Media, and given the low credibiltiy to begin with, it's entirely likely we aren't getting the 'whole story' versus another chance for looney 'activists' to condemn the poh-leese etc.
As for being handed a subpoena etc, I think you need to think harder about how law-enforcement works. The police don't knock on a drug-dealers house and say "umm...It's the Police, may we come in?" and give the perp a chance to flush the evidence (reformat drives). They kick in the door, capture evidence and let the courts sort it out.
I also think you need to think harder about dictatorships before waving such comparisons about.
It's a shame that the site referenced in the grandparent was considered flame-bait.
And they are probably good examples of how a little hate speech can go a long way...
We are seeing the same thing today in Arab countries where childrens minds are poisoned and the result is terrorists.
As for free speech, it's interesting to note how someone modded my earlier post and its parents down as flamebait rather than responding, presumably because they love Indymedia and loath fair criticism of it...
The reality is that the Arab states as well as Osama bin Laden couldn't really care less about the Palestinians and merely use them as a pawn in their efforts to destroy Israel.
Witness the 'Black September' shooting of 20 000 Palestinians in Jordan or the fact the Lebanese, Egyptians and Jordanians haven't offered the Palestinians anything since 1948 while Israel is held responsible for their welfare.
The only reason Osama bin Laden raises the Palestinians is the one and only thing all the Arab Muslim states can agree on is hatred for Israel, the only non-Islamic democracy in the region. So why not use it to rally support for various other causes?
Don't be fooled... Western actions were never the cause of Militant Islamic fascism, merely an excuse. Being non-Islamic is the reason and nothing we should feel guitly about.
There are no safe browsers (yet?), just ones that haven't been picked on much.
This is one of the leading defences of Microsoft, namely that they are the biggest target of many security problems merely because they are the most widely deployed.
Conversely, other systems like Firefox or Macintosh are implicitly safer simply because they aren't targeted by criminals.
This is a flawed argument as (cough) some systems and operating systems are built from the ground-up with security in mind even if this means reduced functionality or ease-of-use. There is a good reason they have fewer vulnerabilities, and it isn't because they aren't getting picked on.
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Why should the US, or anyone else feel guilty for being seen as an "excuse" for the inexcusable?
There is no excuse ever to justify the deliberate and strategic killing of non-combatants, civilians and children, A.K.A Terrorism. Many have tried to justify it, or explain it but the fact is it is abhorrent and no one should feel like they deserved it because they simply didn't. THAT'S an excuse because it's far easier for the left to blame the US or any other life-loving democracy than tackle the real issues of Militant Islamic terrorism.
You were modded down because most other people on slashdot realize this.
Hello Anonymous Coward,
So what your saying is I was modded down because someone (one person, not most of Slashdot actually) disagreed with me. So they modded me down because they happened to have some mod points, rather than try and argue and attempt to disprove my point? Rather a weak way to win an argument don't you think? In fact, it means plenty of people won't get to see my argument and make up their own mind... Tell us the one about censorship!
As for pro-terroristic rhetoric building on "actual negative conditions in people's lives" bear in mind the Ethiopians, the Tibetans, the Native Americans, the Australian Aboriginals and any number of massively oppressed, hungry, occupied NON-MUSLIM victims of poverty have NOT taken to suicide bombing or deliberate shooting of children.
The difference, and the reason why is obvious and you are not arguing with what I said, but your own misinterpretation of it. Sorry Anonymous Coward, but hate is a major cause of terrorism (haev a look at what's shown on Arab Television if you don't believe me.
If stopping hate or the incitement of children to kill and murder, leads to a reduction in terror, that's fine by me even if you (anonymous coward) believe it's censorship.
Given that most of the news of this story was reported through Indy Media, and given the low credibiltiy to begin with, it's entirely likely we aren't getting the 'whole story' versus another chance for looney 'activists' to condemn the poh-leese etc.
As for being handed a subpoena etc, I think you need to think harder about how law-enforcement works. The police don't knock on a drug-dealers house and say "umm...It's the Police, may we come in?" and give the perp a chance to flush the evidence (reformat drives). They kick in the door, capture evidence and let the courts sort it out.
I also think you need to think harder about dictatorships before waving such comparisons about.
It's a shame that the site referenced in the grandparent was considered flame-bait.
Really?
Then why haven't the Native Americans blown up buildings? Why haven't the Tibetans cut anyone's head off?
Maybe because the 'hatred' has nothing to do with oppression and everything to do with a death-cult.
And they are probably good examples of how a little hate speech can go a long way...
We are seeing the same thing today in Arab countries where childrens minds are poisoned and the result is terrorists.
As for free speech, it's interesting to note how someone modded my earlier post and its parents down as flamebait rather than responding, presumably because they love Indymedia and loath fair criticism of it...
Depends where you live...
Are you really that naive to absolve Miliant Islam and believe the US should feel guilty for 9/11 instead?
Mod parent up! The site gives a pretty good insight why the 'freedom of speech' argument shouldn't apply.
Namely, that Indy Media has used freedom of speech as an excuse for hate-speech.
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The reality is that the Arab states as well as Osama bin Laden couldn't really care less about the Palestinians and merely use them as a pawn in their efforts to destroy Israel.
Witness the 'Black September' shooting of 20 000 Palestinians in Jordan or the fact the Lebanese, Egyptians and Jordanians haven't offered the Palestinians anything since 1948 while Israel is held responsible for their welfare.
The only reason Osama bin Laden raises the Palestinians is the one and only thing all the Arab Muslim states can agree on is hatred for Israel, the only non-Islamic democracy in the region. So why not use it to rally support for various other causes?
Don't be fooled... Western actions were never the cause of Militant Islamic fascism, merely an excuse. Being non-Islamic is the reason and nothing we should feel guitly about.
I'm more worried about my next door neigbbour being able to serve up the search results!
Now would probably be an excellent time to remind you about Talk Like a Pirate Day - September 19, later this week.
Not quite. The pirates were only "evaluating" each of the governors' daughters with a view to possibly marrying them later.
That's what's ingenious about it... How can you moonlight, by moonlight?
No sunlight = no coding.
Stupid kite-eating webserver....
All I usually want are features that invariably get released in the next model a week after I just bought one.
Uh huh... Let's hear more about Half Life 2 (being released next Monday) instead.
Did it shrink?
Or did you use cold water?
This is one of the leading defences of Microsoft, namely that they are the biggest target of many security problems merely because they are the most widely deployed.
Conversely, other systems like Firefox or Macintosh are implicitly safer simply because they aren't targeted by criminals.
This is a flawed argument as (cough) some systems and operating systems are built from the ground-up with security in mind even if this means reduced functionality or ease-of-use. There is a good reason they have fewer vulnerabilities, and it isn't because they aren't getting picked on.