so, you're still watching something... i haven't even seen a movie since that last trek movie (and that one convinced me not to watch more movies). The only reason for going was being with friends (all of us like star trek), I wouldn't have bothered to watch it for any other reason.
My high school physics teacher once commented on how many arts and crafts people (nearly everybody) used to do to express creativity because there were no tv's to occupy their leisure time.
i do watch stuff that i have already, though not as much anymore. I also listen to music practically continuously. I haven't bought a cd in well over 5 years.
It's funny, but the ads and products look somehow more sinister now than they did before (although that may be a builtin mental defense averting from their purchase). Now many things seem either too overrated, or just a downright frivolous waste.
I've only stopped watching tv for about a year now. Although for the year before that i got sick of tv and only watched the news. I got sick of the news also, so now i watch nothing.
I do plan on watching some more movies, but mainly the ones that i have previously wanted to see, but never got the chance. I don't see paying for them though, those days are over.
but what about mmx,sse? if there are also 64bit counterparts of theses sets, the data throughput should be doubled on each register. If also, there are more available registers, that's even more throughput.
--disclaimer I don't know much about x86, my last assembly program was on a 6502
" Maybe the reluctance to accept help is the illness? If that's the case, then he does need free mental healthcare."
i think you need help, will you accept? If not, we can have a lunacy hearing. It's remarkably easy to send someone away for observation. Once you arrive at loony-bin, you definitely have a problem otherwise you wouldn't be there. Don't believe me, try it yourself, i did.
that a deal is struck between the entity claiming infringement and developers of a gpl'ed project.
Supose developers remove claimed infringing code and release x+1.
There is nothing binding between the end-user of release x to discontinue use, because there is not any infringing code. There is only infringing code (over a jurisdiction) when it is judged to be so in a court of law. A settlement doesn't create (or remove) infringing code, because it doesn't exist. It is just a mere claim until it is substantiated.
It will take (at minimum) a judge (in my jurisdiction, like fedgovt) to keep me from typing bf24, for i would never feel bound by decisions that have no teeth in my location.
... i just bought a laptop and was forced to pay the ms tax, when i have an unused xp copy with license right here.
i got a license (hh2xv-rk3bb-pmydm-y8v8c-7r22t), but no copy. Apparantly you don't even get a restore cd anymore, unless you request one in the mail.
Unfortunatly, i'll never know if i received a copy in the harddrive, because my personal recovery cd wiped the drive. Microsoft makes some neat toys, but my laptop is destined for productivity:)
It might be more worthwhile to start a compliance testing project. This would help ensure that the testing apparatus actually performed accurate compliance testing. Given enough time and developement, Sun's cert may become virtually meaningless
-- Sure, theres always the 2% that can get around any barier you put up. Stopping the 98% is usually good enough to justify the extra effort of developing these measures.
they're trying to stop the %2 from sharing their knowledge with the other 98%
--they were specifically instructed not to make the subpoena public to as not to alert the subject(s) of the investigation to the existence of the investigation.
they were only requested not instructed instructions come from a judge
you can install many packages from debian arm dpkg is included in busybox and works well i use mpg123 to play shoutcast streams that the built in player can't handle
''' First off, code is either in source form or object form. Interpreted languages are distributed as source. There you'd be forced to distribute the program in "source code form", and you'd be in violation of the rules. '''
Only if the _license_ forces you to distribute the source, not the code itself.
don't bee fooled
doobee concerned -- we're little children in the romper room gone astray
melting pot == lake of fire
USA == Great Satan (trying to cover our asses while we poison and _relentlessly_ bomb third world people)
now some comedy --
jethro tull -- aqualung
the song before hymm 43 == my god
my god - the answer to life, the universe and everything (the whole general sort of mish-mash)
the white knight (potus) is talking backwards
and the red queen (red cross) 'off her head'
a hookah smoking caterpillar is talking now
they've got the guns, but we have the numbers
gonna win yea we're taking over:)
:)
:)
rejoice:)
I am not sure about the netboot, as I couldn't find enough info on the ethernet card in it. At worst you could boot the kernel from the cd, and use nfsroot for the filesystem. This is the strategy i was going to use before i happened to find imggen. Once the kernel is loaded, the cd-drive can be used as normal. This is not as elegant as a netboot, but it will work. I think that it is unlikely that there is a eth card in it that directly supports netboot, but it probably has a slot where you can insert a homebrew rom. There are instructions and a pcb layout in the netboot package to create a flash rom burner, in case you need one.
There should also be no problem with running mosix either, as it cares nothing about filesystems (i don't use mfs, just load balancing).
two grand is kind of high for just an nfsroot, bootp server. I am using a 700MHz machine with a 20G drive. Memory on the server, and the clients, is very important. nfsd can eat memory when it's supporting multiple persistent connections. The hard drive needs to have a low seek time, but throughput is less important as the bottleneck is in the network throughput. I only have five clients right now, two more going on this week, and a projected total of twenty by years end. I have been trying to stress the system to the best of my ability, and i feel that the this computer can support 20 clients with ease (with a possible ram upgrade on the server(having enough ram on the server is critical)).
I don't have an online redundant server (don't know how to go aobut setting one up (would really like to know -- please)), but I do have a drop in replacement that stays unplugged until ready for action. The clients are so easy to adminster to, just a quick add/change in the bootptab, a quick copy of root_base To root##, change etc/hosts, hostname, fstab, mosix/mosix.map and,pow, ready to go.
btw, never heard of NOW system, have to check it out. As far as i am concerned, debian is the only way to go when setting up an operation like this.
Important -- don't forget to have eth0,nfs-client,nfsroot, ip-autoconfig built straight into the kernel. Also dont forget to add the ip=bootp|dhcp to the command line options when booting the kernel (I had forgotten, and took hours to figure out what i was missing:).
Hope this helps
If you are serious about such a network, let me know how it goes. linwiz.curly_a.evalueville.com
have fun
:)
I encourage people to take a serous look at tftp booting an nfsrooted diskless client from a central file server.
I have just recently finished building such a system, where x-terminals were just not sufficient (all clients have a need for a video capture card). While doing the shopping for the clients, I had problems finding a that wasn't _more_ than I needed. There are good reasons to go diskless rather than the central x server option. The first is that the bandwidth requirements for nfsroot is much lower than an xterminal, which must use the network everytime the display changes. Be sure you have enough memory (RAM) allocated to the clients, as you will not want to swap over the network. I just got 256MB sticks in the mail from Rich Pacific at 30 a pop.
The second reason is mosix. The bandwidth that gets saved by nfsroot lets processes migrate to available processors almost without restriction.
The third reason is a pure admin combo. I use bootp which reads config changes without restarting the daemon. So replacing a machine is as easy as dropping in a new box and changing a line in the bootptab to reflect the mac address of the new clients nic. there is no need to worry about software on the clients, since they don't have any that's not on the nfs server.
tips:
i810 motherboards are wonderful, with onboard video and sound, these boards are ideal as long as the clients don't need over 256MB(ram) constantly.
3com has good cards that support netbooting. If you plan to look into this, go to google and search for imggen. This program is required for booting an image from a 3com card (and nothing else will work). The netboot (and possibly etherboot) docs are out of date on this, and i didn't catch this info until I resorted to boot-floppies and read the docs for fai.
fai -- don't use this at all, until you read closely everything that it does. This is a good program(system), but it won't work for you unless you understand it entirely. I personally don't use it, though i use the ideas in it and am currently writing python scripts that handle most of the fai's job.
mosix, mosix, mosix -- if you use debian, mosix has just become aptable, and it works well. If you have a few linux nc's behind a firewall, I seriously implore you too give it a shot, as it has been a blessing. The beauty of it is if you have problems, you can always just/etc/init.d/mosix stop (i have yetto have the need)on the nodes and things are back to the way they were.
reiserfs -- (or maybe another journalling fs). I beg you NOT to use ext2, as a power outage on the server running nfsroot WILL fsck it all up causing headaches (I learned the hard way, please take my word)
The only real problem with this solution i have had so far is all notroot partitions in the fstab seem to need to nolock option in order to mount. I have set up the server file system so that this is not a prblem, though i like to find a more clean solution.
I hope this helps you. I personally have nothing against 'xterms', but I have found that nfsrooted nc's to be a more generic and plausible option.
My major concern in all of this is the stretching of this analogy. I will try to give a couple of examples to illustrate this.
Example one-
Suppose while I walk down the street or in the mall, I say that the combination to the safe at the local burger baron is 1-2-3. Then I tell other people it's 4-5-6, and so on. Also suppose I have no way of knowing the validity of what I'm saying, and I haven't been entrusted to the combo of the safe at the burger baron. Further suppose that somebody is crazy enough to believe me, break into the place, and actually open the safe with one of the combos I spoke. Did I commit a crime? Furthermore, did I incite disruptive behavior that would deny me protection under the first amemdment? (While this example seems to have no bearing on reality, it is somewhat analogous to the DeCSS case)
Example two-
This example is a little more relevant to what's going on today. Bear in mind what digital means. Files and streams are not numbers physically, they are pulses and aranngements of electrons (or something, please don't laugh at my lack of physics:). But these files and streams can be represented very easily (one to one) by numbers, this is the whole concept of digital. One of the side projects I am working on (so far unsuccessfully) is making direct use of the fact that files can be represented by numbers, and putting them into a very basic standard mathematical context. The idea is really super simple. Suppose I take a few Metallica mp3's and tar them up. I have a file that can be represented by a really big number. It's a file full of material that is currently protected by copyrights. Lets call this file ajfa.tar ( and justice for all;). My idea is this --
ajfa.tar = x*(linux-2.2.16.tar)+y*(ppp-2.4.0.tar.gz)+z*(patch -2.4.0-test6.tar.bz2)+w | x,y,z,w are small enough to be "human readable"
Now as we know the three component files are also protected by copyrights, but they are freely
distributable, while ajfa.tar is not. I understand that the equation itself doesn't break copyright laws, and I also understand that evaluating the equation would leave me with a pattern of bits that I don't have permission to own. My real concern is if by spreading this equation around, am I enciting disruptive behaviour that also denys my protection under the first amendment?
While the second example might not seem to bear directly on this case, I have a feeling that this very problem will present itself at a later date. Digital information is really a two edged sword, as it allows copyrighted material to existed in a form that cannot be copyrighted. The US government states that you cannot copyright a number -- http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wnp
-- Works consisting entirely of information that is common property and containing no original
authorship (for example: standard calendars, height and weight charts, tape measures and rulers, and lists or tables taken from public documents or other common sources) --
I consider a number to be common property containing no original authorship (except maybe by God). Suppose that the decimal representation of ajfa.tar can be found somewhere in the decimal expansion of pi. Is ajfa.tar copyrighted, or is it common property?
I have a feeling that even if the DMCA is banished from the books, the "fire in a theater" may come
back in weird ways to haunt people. I'm sorry if what I am saying is hard to understand, as I can have great difficulty at times expressing myself. I also apologize that this question(s) do(es)n't relate directly to the case at hand, but I just felt a strong urge to write about this. I have been running these thoughts through my head for many months now, and I can't come up with a likely judicial reaction to what I have described. I don't really expect you to respond to this post, although I would really like you to read it and mull the ideas around in your minds for a little while. It might help your perspective on what's going on a little bit. If you have already mulled similiar thoughts before, I apologize for possibly insulting your intelligence and depth of thought. I think that if you were to think about this for a while, you might be in a good position to help someone who might need it, and help bring about new insight on the emergence of new technology and forms of expression, where its implementation is not very well understood.
Thank You for your time and persistence.
Thank You also for your excellent work in this suit.
My major concern in all of this is the stretching of this analogy. I will try to give a couple of examples to illustrate this.
Example one-
Suppose while I walk down the street or in the mall, I say that the combination to the safe at the local burger baron is 1-2-3. Then I tell other people it's 4-5-6, and so on. Also suppose I have no way of knowing the validity of what I'm saying, and I haven't been entrusted to the combo of the safe at the burger baron. Further suppose that somebody is crazy enough to believe me, break into the place, and actually open the safe with one of the combos I spoke. Did I commit a crime? Furthermore, did I incite disruptive behavior that would deny me protection under the first amemdment? (While this example seems to have no bearing on reality, it is somewhat analogous to the DeCSS case)
Example two-
This example is a little more relevant to what's going on today. Bear in mind what digital means. Files and streams are not numbers physically, they are pulses and aranngements of electrons (or something, please don't laugh at my lack of physics:). But these files and streams can be represented very easily (one to one) by numbers, this is the whole concept of digital. One of the side projects I am working on (so far unsuccessfully) is making direct use of the fact that files can be represented by numbers, and putting them into a very basic standard mathematical context. The idea is really super simple. Suppose I take a few Metallica mp3's and tar them up. I have a file that can be represented by a really big number. It's a file full of material that is currently protected by copyrights. Lets call this file ajfa.tar ( and justice for all;). My idea is this --
ajfa.tar = x*(linux-2.2.16.tar)+y*(ppp-2.4.0.tar.gz)+z*(patch -2.4.0-test6.tar.bz2)+w | x,y,z,w are small enough to be "human readable"
Now as we know the three component files are also protected by copyrights, but they are freely distributable, while ajfa.tar is not. I understand that the equation itself doesn't break copyright laws, and I also understand that evaluating the equation would leave me with a pattern of bits that I don't have permission to own. My real concern is if by spreading this equation around, am I enciting disruptive behaviour that also denys my protection under the first amendment?
While the second example might not seem to bear directly on this case, I have a feeling that this very problem will present itself at a later date. Digital information is really a two edged sword, as it allows copyrighted material to existed in a form that cannot be copyrighted. The US government states that you cannot copyright a number -- http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wnp -- Works consisting entirely of information that is common property and containing no original
authorship (for example: standard calendars, height and weight charts, tape measures and rulers, and
lists or tables taken from public documents or other common sources)
I consider a number to be common property containing no original authorship (except maybe by God). Suppose that the decimal representation of ajfa.tar can be found somewhere in the decimal expansion of pi. Is ajfa.tar copyrighted, or is it common property?
I have a feeling that even if the DMCA is banished from the books, the "fire in a theater" may come back in weird ways to haunt people. I'm sorry if what I am saying is hard to understand, as I can have great difficulty at times expressing myself. I also apologize that this question(s) do(es)n't relate directly to the case at hand, but I just felt a strong urge to write about this. I have been running these thoughts through my head for many months now, and I can't come up with a likely judicial reaction to what I have described. I don't really expect you to respond to this post, although I would really like you to read it and mull the ideas around in your minds for a little while. It might help your perspective on what's going on a little bit. If you have already mulled similiar thoughts before, I apologize for possibly insulting your intelligence and depth of thought. I think that if you were to think about this for a while, you might be in a good position to help someone who might need it, and help bring about new insight on the emergence of new technology and forms of expression, where its implementation is not very well understood.
Thank You for your time and persistence.
Thank You also for your excellent work in this suit.
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so, you're still watching something ...
i haven't even seen a movie since that last
trek movie (and that one convinced me not to
watch more movies). The only reason for going was being with friends (all of us like star trek), I wouldn't have bothered to watch it for any other reason.
My high school physics teacher once commented on
how many arts and crafts people (nearly everybody)
used to do to express creativity because there
were no tv's to occupy their leisure time.
i do watch stuff that i have already, though not as much anymore. I also listen to music practically continuously. I haven't bought a cd in well over 5 years.
It's funny, but the ads and products look somehow more sinister now than they did before (although that may be a builtin mental defense averting from their purchase). Now many things seem either too overrated, or just a downright frivolous waste.
I've only stopped watching tv for about a year now. Although for the year before that i got sick of tv and only watched the news. I got sick of the news also, so now i watch nothing.
I do plan on watching some more movies, but mainly the ones that i have previously wanted to see, but never got the chance. I don't see paying for them though, those days are over.
but what about mmx,sse?
if there are also 64bit counterparts of theses sets,
the data throughput should be doubled on each register. If also, there are more available registers, that's even more throughput.
--disclaimer
I don't know much about x86,
my last assembly program was on a 6502
does this mean that anybody that sells linux systems and got the letter can sue?
Hey, thanks for the link. my c128 has been sitting in the closet too long. :)
" Maybe the reluctance to accept help is the illness? If that's the case, then he does need free mental healthcare."
i think you need help, will you accept? If not,
we can have a lunacy hearing. It's remarkably easy to send someone away for observation. Once you arrive at loony-bin, you definitely have a problem otherwise you wouldn't be there. Don't believe me, try it yourself, i did.
that a deal is struck between the entity claiming infringement and developers of a gpl'ed project.
Supose developers remove claimed infringing code and release x+1.
There is nothing binding between the end-user of release x to discontinue use, because there is not any infringing code. There is only infringing code (over a jurisdiction) when it is judged to be so in a court of law. A settlement doesn't create (or remove) infringing code, because it doesn't exist. It is just a mere claim until it is substantiated.
It will take (at minimum) a judge (in my jurisdiction, like fedgovt) to keep me from typing bf24, for i would never feel bound by decisions that have no teeth in my location.
use jigdo-file, then you can download
the packages from multiple mirrors and install them
into a loopback mounted iso that you can burn later
jigdo works on many platforms
"The law simply requires that certain types of messages (specifically, adult-oriented advertising) be accurately described in the subject."
"This DOES NOT limit your freedom of speech."
law, require, freedom, limit -> ?
you've been hanging around with the enemy of the state.
come with me, to the building, that no one stops to watch.
--There's a reason we call it "erosion" of rights. It's a slow, insidious process - but that doesn't make it any less threatening.
There's a reason they call it "erosion" of rights.
It's to promote the perception of a natural, unavoidable process.
... i just bought a laptop and was forced to pay the ms tax, when i have an unused xp copy with license right here.
:)
i got a license (hh2xv-rk3bb-pmydm-y8v8c-7r22t),
but no copy. Apparantly you don't even get a restore cd anymore, unless you request one in the mail.
Unfortunatly, i'll never know if i received a copy in the harddrive, because my personal recovery cd wiped the drive. Microsoft makes some neat toys, but my laptop is destined for productivity
It might be more worthwhile to start a compliance testing project. This would help ensure that the testing apparatus actually performed accurate compliance testing. Given enough time and developement, Sun's cert may become virtually meaningless
-- Sure, theres always the 2% that can get around any barier you put up. Stopping the 98% is usually good enough to justify the extra effort of developing these measures.
they're trying to stop the %2 from sharing their knowledge with the other 98%
--they were specifically instructed not to make the subpoena public to as not to alert the subject(s) of the investigation to the existence of the investigation.
they were only requested not instructed
instructions come from a judge
I think this is what started up openbios.org
because they were going to use this to deliver ads to your computer during bootup
you can install many packages from debian arm
dpkg is included in busybox and works well
i use mpg123 to play shoutcast streams that the built in player can't handle
''' First off, code is either in source form or object form. Interpreted languages are distributed as source. There you'd be forced to distribute the program in "source code form", and you'd be in violation of the rules. '''
Only if the _license_ forces you to distribute the source, not the code itself.
it's hard to parodize titles like
thunderball,
moonraker,
octopussy, etc.
don't bee fooled
:)
:)
doobee concerned -- we're little children in the romper room gone astray
melting pot == lake of fire
USA == Great Satan (trying to cover our asses while we poison and _relentlessly_ bomb third world people)
now some comedy --
jethro tull -- aqualung
the song before hymm 43 == my god
my god - the answer to life, the universe and everything (the whole general sort of mish-mash)
the white knight (potus) is talking backwards
and the red queen (red cross) 'off her head'
a hookah smoking caterpillar is talking now
they've got the guns, but we have the numbers
gonna win yea we're taking over
:)
:)
rejoice
I am not sure about the netboot, as I couldn't find enough info on the ethernet card in it. At worst you could boot the kernel from the cd, and use nfsroot for the filesystem. This is the strategy i was going to use before i happened to find imggen. Once the kernel is loaded, the cd-drive can be used as normal. This is not as elegant as a netboot, but it will work. I think that it is unlikely that there is a eth card in it that directly supports netboot, but it probably has a slot where you can insert a homebrew rom. There are instructions and a pcb layout in the netboot package to create a flash rom burner, in case you need one.
,pow, ready to go.
:).
There should also be no problem with running mosix either, as it cares nothing about filesystems (i don't use mfs, just load balancing).
two grand is kind of high for just an nfsroot, bootp server. I am using a 700MHz machine with a 20G drive. Memory on the server, and the clients, is very important. nfsd can eat memory when it's supporting multiple persistent connections. The hard drive needs to have a low seek time, but throughput is less important as the bottleneck is in the network throughput. I only have five clients right now, two more going on this week, and a projected total of twenty by years end. I have been trying to stress the system to the best of my ability, and i feel that the this computer can support 20 clients with ease (with a possible ram upgrade on the server(having enough ram on the server is critical)).
I don't have an online redundant server (don't know how to go aobut setting one up (would really like to know -- please)), but I do have a drop in replacement that stays unplugged until ready for action. The clients are so easy to adminster to, just a quick add/change in the bootptab, a quick copy of root_base To root##, change etc/hosts, hostname, fstab, mosix/mosix.map and
btw, never heard of NOW system, have to check it out. As far as i am concerned, debian is the only way to go when setting up an operation like this.
Important -- don't forget to have eth0,nfs-client,nfsroot, ip-autoconfig built straight into the kernel. Also dont forget to add the ip=bootp|dhcp to the command line options when booting the kernel (I had forgotten, and took hours to figure out what i was missing
Hope this helps
If you are serious about such a network, let me know how it goes. linwiz.curly_a.evalueville.com
have fun
:)
I encourage people to take a serous look at tftp booting an nfsrooted diskless client from a central file server.
I have just recently finished building such a system, where x-terminals were just not sufficient (all clients have a need for a video capture card). While doing the shopping for the clients, I had problems finding a that wasn't _more_ than I needed. There are good reasons to go diskless rather than the central x server option. The first is that the bandwidth requirements for nfsroot is much lower than an xterminal, which must use the network everytime the display changes. Be sure you have enough memory (RAM) allocated to the clients, as you will not want to swap over the network. I just got 256MB sticks in the mail from Rich Pacific at 30 a pop.
The second reason is mosix. The bandwidth that gets saved by nfsroot lets processes migrate to available processors almost without restriction.
The third reason is a pure admin combo. I use bootp which reads config changes without restarting the daemon. So replacing a machine is as easy as dropping in a new box and changing a line in the bootptab to reflect the mac address of the new clients nic. there is no need to worry about software on the clients, since they don't have any that's not on the nfs server.
tips:
i810 motherboards are wonderful, with onboard video and sound, these boards are ideal as long as the clients don't need over 256MB(ram) constantly.
3com has good cards that support netbooting. If you plan to look into this, go to google and search for imggen. This program is required for booting an image from a 3com card (and nothing else will work). The netboot (and possibly etherboot) docs are out of date on this, and i didn't catch this info until I resorted to boot-floppies and read the docs for fai.
fai -- don't use this at all, until you read closely everything that it does. This is a good program(system), but it won't work for you unless you understand it entirely. I personally don't use it, though i use the ideas in it and am currently writing python scripts that handle most of the fai's job.
mosix, mosix, mosix -- if you use debian, mosix has just become aptable, and it works well. If you have a few linux nc's behind a firewall, I seriously implore you too give it a shot, as it has been a blessing. The beauty of it is if you have problems, you can always just
reiserfs -- (or maybe another journalling fs). I beg you NOT to use ext2, as a power outage on the server running nfsroot WILL fsck it all up causing headaches (I learned the hard way, please take my word)
The only real problem with this solution i have had so far is all notroot partitions in the fstab seem to need to nolock option in order to mount. I have set up the server file system so that this is not a prblem, though i like to find a more clean solution.
I hope this helps you. I personally have nothing against 'xterms', but I have found that nfsrooted nc's to be a more generic and plausible option.
;)
I'll agree, python is exetremely easy to learn.
I have been able to make a load of unimpressive applications very quickly. This can be much easier than finding the 'right' thing, i can just make it.
Python also has the powerful ability to let you create your apps on the fly in the interpreter.
All of the libraries that I have used so far are very intuitive, and your actual code seems to resemble pseudocode.
I highly recommend python to anyone who is in need of dodging headaches.
sorry I posted to the wrong article
:)
Sorry abour that
My major concern in all of this is the stretching of this analogy. I will try to give a couple of examples to illustrate this.
:). But these files and streams can be represented very easily (one to one) by numbers, this is the whole concept of digital. One of the side projects I am working on (so far unsuccessfully) is making direct use of the fact that files can be represented by numbers, and putting them into a very basic standard mathematical context. The idea is really super simple. Suppose I take a few Metallica mp3's and tar them up. I have a file that can be represented by a really big number. It's a file full of material that is currently protected by copyrights. Lets call this file ajfa.tar ( and justice for all ;). My idea is this --
h -2.4.0-test6.tar.bz2)+w | x,y,z,w are small enough to be "human readable"
Example one-
Suppose while I walk down the street or in the mall, I say that the combination to the safe at the local burger baron is 1-2-3. Then I tell other people it's 4-5-6, and so on. Also suppose I have no way of knowing the validity of what I'm saying, and I haven't been entrusted to the combo of the safe at the burger baron. Further suppose that somebody is crazy enough to believe me, break into the place, and actually open the safe with one of the combos I spoke. Did I commit a crime? Furthermore, did I incite disruptive behavior that would deny me protection under the first amemdment? (While this example seems to have no bearing on reality, it is somewhat analogous to the DeCSS case)
Example two-
This example is a little more relevant to what's going on today. Bear in mind what digital means. Files and streams are not numbers physically, they are pulses and aranngements of electrons (or something, please don't laugh at my lack of physics
ajfa.tar = x*(linux-2.2.16.tar)+y*(ppp-2.4.0.tar.gz)+z*(patc
Now as we know the three component files are also protected by copyrights, but they are freely
distributable, while ajfa.tar is not. I understand that the equation itself doesn't break copyright laws, and I also understand that evaluating the equation would leave me with a pattern of bits that I don't have permission to own. My real concern is if by spreading this equation around, am I enciting disruptive behaviour that also denys my protection under the first amendment?
While the second example might not seem to bear directly on this case, I have a feeling that this very problem will present itself at a later date. Digital information is really a two edged sword, as it allows copyrighted material to existed in a form that cannot be copyrighted. The US government states that you cannot copyright a number -- http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wnp
-- Works consisting entirely of information that is common property and containing no original
authorship (for example: standard calendars, height and weight charts, tape measures and rulers, and lists or tables taken from public documents or other common sources) --
I consider a number to be common property containing no original authorship (except maybe by God). Suppose that the decimal representation of ajfa.tar can be found somewhere in the decimal expansion of pi. Is ajfa.tar copyrighted, or is it common property?
I have a feeling that even if the DMCA is banished from the books, the "fire in a theater" may come
back in weird ways to haunt people. I'm sorry if what I am saying is hard to understand, as I can have great difficulty at times expressing myself. I also apologize that this question(s) do(es)n't relate directly to the case at hand, but I just felt a strong urge to write about this. I have been running these thoughts through my head for many months now, and I can't come up with a likely judicial reaction to what I have described. I don't really expect you to respond to this post, although I would really like you to read it and mull the ideas around in your minds for a little while. It might help your perspective on what's going on a little bit. If you have already mulled similiar thoughts before, I apologize for possibly insulting your intelligence and depth of thought. I think that if you were to think about this for a while, you might be in a good position to help someone who might need it, and help bring about new insight on the emergence of new technology and forms of expression, where its implementation is not very well understood.
Thank You for your time and persistence.
Thank You also for your excellent work in this suit.
Joseph Rawson
umeboshi2@yoohoo.com (yoo is ya)
My major concern in all of this is the stretching of this analogy. I will try to give a couple of examples to illustrate this.
:). But these files and streams can be represented very easily (one to one) by numbers, this is the whole concept of digital. One of the side projects I am working on (so far unsuccessfully) is making direct use of the fact that files can be represented by numbers, and putting them into a very basic standard mathematical context. The idea is really super simple. Suppose I take a few Metallica mp3's and tar them up. I have a file that can be represented by a really big number. It's a file full of material that is currently protected by copyrights. Lets call this file ajfa.tar ( and justice for all ;). My idea is this --
h -2.4.0-test6.tar.bz2)+w | x,y,z,w are small enough to be "human readable"
Example one-
Suppose while I walk down the street or in the mall, I say that the combination to the safe at the local burger baron is 1-2-3. Then I tell other people it's 4-5-6, and so on. Also suppose I have no way of knowing the validity of what I'm saying, and I haven't been entrusted to the combo of the safe at the burger baron. Further suppose that somebody is crazy enough to believe me, break into the place, and actually open the safe with one of the combos I spoke. Did I commit a crime? Furthermore, did I incite disruptive behavior that would deny me protection under the first amemdment? (While this example seems to have no bearing on reality, it is somewhat analogous to the DeCSS case)
Example two-
This example is a little more relevant to what's going on today. Bear in mind what digital means. Files and streams are not numbers physically, they are pulses and aranngements of electrons (or something, please don't laugh at my lack of physics
ajfa.tar = x*(linux-2.2.16.tar)+y*(ppp-2.4.0.tar.gz)+z*(patc
Now as we know the three component files are also protected by copyrights, but they are freely distributable, while ajfa.tar is not. I understand that the equation itself doesn't break copyright laws, and I also understand that evaluating the equation would leave me with a pattern of bits that I don't have permission to own. My real concern is if by spreading this equation around, am I enciting disruptive behaviour that also denys my protection under the first amendment?
While the second example might not seem to bear directly on this case, I have a feeling that this very problem will present itself at a later date. Digital information is really a two edged sword, as it allows copyrighted material to existed in a form that cannot be copyrighted. The US government states that you cannot copyright a number -- http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wnp -- Works consisting entirely of information that is common property and containing no original
authorship (for example: standard calendars, height and weight charts, tape measures and rulers, and
lists or tables taken from public documents or other common sources)
I consider a number to be common property containing no original authorship (except maybe by God). Suppose that the decimal representation of ajfa.tar can be found somewhere in the decimal expansion of pi. Is ajfa.tar copyrighted, or is it common property?
I have a feeling that even if the DMCA is banished from the books, the "fire in a theater" may come back in weird ways to haunt people. I'm sorry if what I am saying is hard to understand, as I can have great difficulty at times expressing myself. I also apologize that this question(s) do(es)n't relate directly to the case at hand, but I just felt a strong urge to write about this. I have been running these thoughts through my head for many months now, and I can't come up with a likely judicial reaction to what I have described. I don't really expect you to respond to this post, although I would really like you to read it and mull the ideas around in your minds for a little while. It might help your perspective on what's going on a little bit. If you have already mulled similiar thoughts before, I apologize for possibly insulting your intelligence and depth of thought. I think that if you were to think about this for a while, you might be in a good position to help someone who might need it, and help bring about new insight on the emergence of new technology and forms of expression, where its implementation is not very well understood.
Thank You for your time and persistence.
Thank You also for your excellent work in this suit.
Joseph Rawson
umeboshi2@yoohoo.com (yoo is ya)