"In the current generation of telephone switch equipment, it's actually more expensive to support rotary dial, because they have to have special equipment to detect those line flashes. I'll bet most of you in US cities are on a line that doesn't support rotary dial at all."
Wrong.
The processor card that does digit collection collects both pulse dialling and touch tone dialling. And all digital switching equipment will support rotary dialling. Touch tone is simply an option that is put on your line. If there is no touch tone option on your line (unlikely), the digit/tone collector simply ignores the touch tone requests.
"But seriously.. doesn't this deserve a big "Well, duh"?...then again, playing video games outside does sound intriguing...;)"
Oh it's fun alright. My friends and I used to have a TV and an NES outside on the deck in the summer so we could play Blades of Steel and have tournaments.
A great tan and playing NES all day outside... I couldn't have asked for much more than that at that age.:D
I see a LOT of comments here as to the fact that if UUNet does in fact tank, other companies can pick up the slack by lighting up some of the excess dark fibre and going from there.
Problem: Most of the dark fibre out there has no equipment hooked up to it. So, the telcos and other large ISPs will have to install all kinds of new ATM switches, SONET Transport Nodes, et al.
Thing is, these switches and transport nodes cost mucho dinero. (fully outfitted switches/TNs cost millions... EACH) Mucho dinero is something most telcos and ISPs *don't* have. Capital budgets have been slashed since the dot-com era.
So where are the telcos and ISPs going to get all of this upgrade money? Not from banks, they've already been burned by 360.net, Global Crossing and now WorldCom.
Things may turn out to be a trickier situation than you might think.
I see no one around here realizes that E3 is a TRADE SHOW. There might be a few games still in development being shown at a trade show.
Definition:
Trade Show : "An event at which goods and services in a specific industry are exhibited and demonstrated."
In this case, the industry is the gaming/entertainment industry and note that it mentions nothing about excluding products in development. Just because a game isn't finished doesn't mean it isn't better than most of the half-assed titles out there now.
In Canada (i'm Canadian, AND work for one of the major telcos)
1) None of the telcos are Crown corporations, sorry.
2) Regulated, yes, monopolies no.
Anyways, what would probably serve you best is a T1. You may be 45 miles from the city, but you likely aren't more than a couple of miles from your remote office. Most of the larger ones are equipped for T1 service.
Point-to-point microwave would be ridiculously expensive, and that leaves you with satellite which is great if you don't mind the lag. If you decide on a satellite connection, get in touch with Telesat, and i'm sure they can hook you up with some more info.
Let me first start off and say that I am not an Intel zealot. I own an Athlon box. Now, with that out of the way...
I can't believe people are stating that AMD chips are the better chip, just because they beat Intel clock-for-clock.
Intel was not considering a clock-for-clock pissing match with AMD when they designed the P4. The 20-stage pipeline was built for high-clockspeeds, which Intel hasn't started to seriously ramp towards.
The P4, assuming the core has a similar shelf life to the P6 core (166MHz PPro-->1000MHz PIII) will ramp to 7.83GHz. The Thunderbird core is already wheezing at 1.4GHz. Will the Athlon be able to ramp to the ~4-5GHz that will be needed to keep up with the P4? No, I didn't think so. Basically, once Intel really starts pushing the P4 core, AMD will be left in the dust, and the AMD zealots will be left to wallow in the misery of an inferior processor.
One more thing. There have been many technological advancements used in the design of the P4. Trace Cache was an EXCELLENT way to combat the inherent difficulties of the deep pipeline.
You guys are killing me here. I work in the Telco industry, and I have a few points to address.
1) This technology already exists. It has for a while. It's called HDSL. When we need bandwidth at a remote site that is not fibre fed, we will install HDSL shelves to carry the payload. Install enough of them, and you will get your 155MB/s rate.
2) All the people that are whining about "I live in the city, less than 10,000 ft from a C.O., and I can't get DSL." . YOU may live 10,000 ft from the CO, but how far does that wire that feeds your house extend PAST your house. It may continue on for a mile or more past your house.
3) People who say "X" company has an OC-192 connection. No, actually they don't. Show me a company that has a OC-192 connection, and i'll show you a company that is blowing smoke out their ass. OC-192's (and recently OC-768) and the DWDM technology are used by Telco's as backbones. Do you really think a Telco is going to allow one of their backbones to be saturated by ONE customer?
4) Fiber to the house. Unless your house was built with it, don't expect to get it. The costs would be ASTRONOMICAL to lay a fiber to every house that currently has copper. Opening trenches is VERY labor intensive. (read:$$$)
5) To put DSL in a CO, its "just a couple of cards in the telco switch". WRONG. The whole point of DSL (other than speed increase), is to offload the processing/routing of the data away from the voice switch. To put DSL into a CO, they have to install an entirely different piece of equipment, called a DSLAM (Digital Subscriber Line Access Multiplexer). This box strips off the higher frequencies containing the data traffic before it hits the voice switch and routes it over the telco/ISP's ATM network, freeing up resources in the voice switch which would otherwise be dedicated to dial-up connections.
6) "It would be cheaper to use fiber than copper, because of the cost of a CSU/DSU and the setup." WRONG. Do people think that you can just plug this fiber into a fiber modem and BAM!, you have an OC3? THE most expensive part of a dedicated fiber connection is the ADM, which sits at the customer end and pares off/adds on the customers traffic from the other traffic on the ring or linear connection. (Add/Drop Multiplexer) The cost of a ADM is substantially more than that of a CSU/DSU.
7) And finally, to the person who stated "Forget copper, I want to get SONET". You can get SONET over an electrical connection (read: copper), its called an STS-x connection rather than an OC-x connection. I believe the STS-x connections now have a rate as high as STS-12.
Amen brother. That would make the lifespan of the Sega Genesis 6 years. Not too bad.
Think of this new set-top/console as an EXTENSION of the Dreamcast as opposed to a replacement for the Dreamcast.
All of this could just be smoke and mirrors however, as Sega rumors are flyng as fast as the press can print them. I mean, today, major gaming publications printed that the X-Box will be comaptible with the Dreamcast!
The Alcatel DSL equipment we use at the telco I work at currently maxes out at 2Mbit per sec up and 8 Mbit per second down. (and we've had this equip for a couple years.)
The telco's just throttle it wayyyyyy back to conserve bandwidth. Although, even the most basic cut-rate DSL service here is 256Kbit up/ 1MBit per second. If you have the cash, you CAN get the maxed out speeds though.
For all of you that are predicting a Bush win in Florida, check this out:
If you look closely at the county level results, you would see that populous counties in Florida like Broward, Orange, and Palm Beach, Gore is winning by a 2 to 1 margin (read:landslide), and only 20ish percent of those counties precincts are reporting.
For example:
De Soto County
73 % of Precincts reporting:
Gore 1,477 votes
Bush 1,653 votes
Broward County
22% of Precincts reporting:
Gore 67,866 votes
Bush 38,476 votes
So as you can see, Bush is marginally winning in the more rural areas (that have finished reporting, and don't have a whole lot of votes), but Gore is winning comfortably in the urban areas (which have a whole lot of votes, and it will take longer to count that many votes).
Hope that helps explain the Too close to call/undecided prediction for Florida. I imagine that the other states that are undecided may have the same thing happening for either candidate.
Ahh, but if you look closely at the county level results, you would see that populous counties in Florida like Broward, Orange, and Palm Beach, Gore is winning by a 2 to 1 margin (read:landslide), and only 20ish percent of those counties precincts are reporting.
For example:
De Soto County
73 % of Precincts reporting:
Gore 1,477 votes
Bush 1,653 votes
Broward County
22% of Precincts reporting:
Gore 67,866 votes
Bush 38,476 votes
So as you can see, Bush is marginally winning in the more rural areas (that have finished reporting, and don't have a whole lot of votes), but Gore is winning comfortably in the urban areas (which have a whole lot of votes, and it will take longer to count that many votes).
Hope that helps explain the Too close to call/undecided prediction for Florida. I imagine that the other states that are undecided may have the same thing happening for either candidate.
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I find that MSN is used more often up here in Canada... any word on compatibility?
Where do I sign up?
It's about time one of these aholes got fined.
Hopefully this will set a precedent that can be applied against all of the other spam companies.
... find out how to keep hackers OUT of it's OS first.
"In the current generation of telephone switch equipment, it's actually more expensive to support rotary dial, because they have to have special equipment to detect those line flashes. I'll bet most of you in US cities are on a line that doesn't support rotary dial at all."
Wrong.
The processor card that does digit collection collects both pulse dialling and touch tone dialling. And all digital switching equipment will support rotary dialling. Touch tone is simply an option that is put on your line. If there is no touch tone option on your line (unlikely), the digit/tone collector simply ignores the touch tone requests.
Again!
(mod me down, i've got TONS of karma to spare)
First.
Before everyone.
So they decide to put an MX core in as the integrated graphics yet again. Don't they realize this is what crippled the original nForce chipset?
Put a true GF4 (or even a GF3 Ti500) core in there and learn from your mistakes.
Both the nForce and nForce2 were/are great chipsets with one blatant flaw... shitty integrated graphics.
"But seriously.. doesn't this deserve a big "Well, duh"? ...then again, playing video games outside does sound intriguing... ;)"
:D
Oh it's fun alright. My friends and I used to have a TV and an NES outside on the deck in the summer so we could play Blades of Steel and have tournaments.
A great tan and playing NES all day outside... I couldn't have asked for much more than that at that age.
I see a LOT of comments here as to the fact that if UUNet does in fact tank, other companies can pick up the slack by lighting up some of the excess dark fibre and going from there.
Problem: Most of the dark fibre out there has no equipment hooked up to it. So, the telcos and other large ISPs will have to install all kinds of new ATM switches, SONET Transport Nodes, et al.
Thing is, these switches and transport nodes cost mucho dinero. (fully outfitted switches/TNs cost millions... EACH) Mucho dinero is something most telcos and ISPs *don't* have. Capital budgets have been slashed since the dot-com era.
So where are the telcos and ISPs going to get all of this upgrade money? Not from banks, they've already been burned by 360.net, Global Crossing and now WorldCom.
Things may turn out to be a trickier situation than you might think.
I see no one around here realizes that E3 is a TRADE SHOW. There might be a few games still in development being shown at a trade show.
Definition:
Trade Show : "An event at which goods and services in a specific industry are exhibited and demonstrated."
In this case, the industry is the gaming/entertainment industry and note that it mentions nothing about excluding products in development. Just because a game isn't finished doesn't mean it isn't better than most of the half-assed titles out there now.
This reminds me of those two great games:
Dues Ex
Rainbow Six: Rouge Spear
The names of these two games are spelled incorrectly more often than not.
Two spelling mistakes in one article. Tsk, tsk.
(+2, Informative) ???
WHAT?
In Canada (i'm Canadian, AND work for one of the major telcos)
1) None of the telcos are Crown corporations, sorry.
2) Regulated, yes, monopolies no.
Anyways, what would probably serve you best is a T1. You may be 45 miles from the city, but you likely aren't more than a couple of miles from your remote office. Most of the larger ones are equipped for T1 service.
Point-to-point microwave would be ridiculously expensive, and that leaves you with satellite which is great if you don't mind the lag. If you decide on a satellite connection, get in touch with Telesat, and i'm sure they can hook you up with some more info.
Let me first start off and say that I am not an Intel zealot. I own an Athlon box. Now, with that out of the way...
I can't believe people are stating that AMD chips are the better chip, just because they beat Intel clock-for-clock.
Intel was not considering a clock-for-clock pissing match with AMD when they designed the P4. The 20-stage pipeline was built for high-clockspeeds, which Intel hasn't started to seriously ramp towards.
The P4, assuming the core has a similar shelf life to the P6 core (166MHz PPro-->1000MHz PIII) will ramp to 7.83GHz. The Thunderbird core is already wheezing at 1.4GHz. Will the Athlon be able to ramp to the ~4-5GHz that will be needed to keep up with the P4? No, I didn't think so. Basically, once Intel really starts pushing the P4 core, AMD will be left in the dust, and the AMD zealots will be left to wallow in the misery of an inferior processor.
One more thing. There have been many technological advancements used in the design of the P4. Trace Cache was an EXCELLENT way to combat the inherent difficulties of the deep pipeline.
You guys are killing me here. I work in the Telco industry, and I have a few points to address.
1) This technology already exists. It has for a while. It's called HDSL. When we need bandwidth at a remote site that is not fibre fed, we will install HDSL shelves to carry the payload. Install enough of them, and you will get your 155MB/s rate.
2) All the people that are whining about "I live in the city, less than 10,000 ft from a C.O., and I can't get DSL." . YOU may live 10,000 ft from the CO, but how far does that wire that feeds your house extend PAST your house. It may continue on for a mile or more past your house.
3) People who say "X" company has an OC-192 connection. No, actually they don't. Show me a company that has a OC-192 connection, and i'll show you a company that is blowing smoke out their ass. OC-192's (and recently OC-768) and the DWDM technology are used by Telco's as backbones. Do you really think a Telco is going to allow one of their backbones to be saturated by ONE customer?
4) Fiber to the house. Unless your house was built with it, don't expect to get it. The costs would be ASTRONOMICAL to lay a fiber to every house that currently has copper. Opening trenches is VERY labor intensive. (read:$$$)
5) To put DSL in a CO, its "just a couple of cards in the telco switch". WRONG. The whole point of DSL (other than speed increase), is to offload the processing/routing of the data away from the voice switch. To put DSL into a CO, they have to install an entirely different piece of equipment, called a DSLAM (Digital Subscriber Line Access Multiplexer). This box strips off the higher frequencies containing the data traffic before it hits the voice switch and routes it over the telco/ISP's ATM network, freeing up resources in the voice switch which would otherwise be dedicated to dial-up connections.
6) "It would be cheaper to use fiber than copper, because of the cost of a CSU/DSU and the setup." WRONG. Do people think that you can just plug this fiber into a fiber modem and BAM!, you have an OC3? THE most expensive part of a dedicated fiber connection is the ADM, which sits at the customer end and pares off/adds on the customers traffic from the other traffic on the ring or linear connection. (Add/Drop Multiplexer) The cost of a ADM is substantially more than that of a CSU/DSU.
7) And finally, to the person who stated "Forget copper, I want to get SONET". You can get SONET over an electrical connection (read: copper), its called an STS-x connection rather than an OC-x connection. I believe the STS-x connections now have a rate as high as STS-12.
/end rant.
Amen brother. That would make the lifespan of the Sega Genesis 6 years. Not too bad.
Think of this new set-top/console as an EXTENSION of the Dreamcast as opposed to a replacement for the Dreamcast.
All of this could just be smoke and mirrors however, as Sega rumors are flyng as fast as the press can print them. I mean, today, major gaming publications printed that the X-Box will be comaptible with the Dreamcast!
Actually, the graphics portion of the console was designed by NEC/PowerVR and NOT 3DFX.
The Alcatel DSL equipment we use at the telco I work at currently maxes out at 2Mbit per sec up and 8 Mbit per second down. (and we've had this equip for a couple years.)
The telco's just throttle it wayyyyyy back to conserve bandwidth. Although, even the most basic cut-rate DSL service here is 256Kbit up/ 1MBit per second. If you have the cash, you CAN get the maxed out speeds though.
DSL = DIGITAL Subscriber Line (or Loop, whatever)
You think they are gonna throw an analog TV signal through there with the DSL stuff?
Nice troll anyways.
Dont forget about the BitBoys oy! and their Xtreme Bandwidth Architecture... (lame lame LAME vaporware)
For all of you that are predicting a Bush win in Florida, check this out:
If you look closely at the county level results, you would see that populous counties in Florida like Broward, Orange, and Palm Beach, Gore is winning by a 2 to 1 margin (read:landslide), and only 20ish percent of those counties precincts are reporting.
For example:
De Soto County
73 % of Precincts reporting:
Gore 1,477 votes
Bush 1,653 votes
Broward County
22% of Precincts reporting:
Gore 67,866 votes
Bush 38,476 votes
So as you can see, Bush is marginally winning in the more rural areas (that have finished reporting, and don't have a whole lot of votes), but Gore is winning comfortably in the urban areas (which have a whole lot of votes, and it will take longer to count that many votes).
Hope that helps explain the Too close to call/undecided prediction for Florida. I imagine that the other states that are undecided may have the same thing happening for either candidate.
Hope this helps explain the confusion!
Never noticed that... heh. Is there something I should know about Long Island? :)
The best map I have found would be this one:
n dex.html
http://cbsnews.com/campaign2000results/election/i
If you update it regularly, it seems to be faster than CNN! (Vote count wise too!)
Ahh, but if you look closely at the county level results, you would see that populous counties in Florida like Broward, Orange, and Palm Beach, Gore is winning by a 2 to 1 margin (read:landslide), and only 20ish percent of those counties precincts are reporting.
For example:
De Soto County
73 % of Precincts reporting:
Gore 1,477 votes
Bush 1,653 votes
Broward County
22% of Precincts reporting:
Gore 67,866 votes
Bush 38,476 votes
So as you can see, Bush is marginally winning in the more rural areas (that have finished reporting, and don't have a whole lot of votes), but Gore is winning comfortably in the urban areas (which have a whole lot of votes, and it will take longer to count that many votes).
Hope that helps explain the Too close to call/undecided prediction for Florida. I imagine that the other states that are undecided may have the same thing happening for either candidate.
The best map I have found would be this one:
/ index.html
http://cbsnews.com/campaign2000results/election
If you update it regularly, it seems to be faster than CNN!