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Google's GTalk Supports XMPP
IceFox writes "On Google Gtalk blog Mike Jazayeri announced open federation for the Google Talk service. Nothing to do with Star Trek it means they now support open federation with any service provider that supports the industry standard XMPP protocol. Although they don't specifically mention AIM compatibility, at CES GTalk was shown with buddy icons so it can't be that far away."
For those readers interested in customizing Google Talk, I would suggest looking at Customize Talk. It has a lot of great downloads.
If you want to be able to chat to your friends on AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo Chat, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, SILC, GroupWise, Zephyr or Google Talk, then I suggest you download GAIM which works on virtually any platform. There are some configurations that need to be set to connect to Google Talk networks.
And, if you're really into this stuff, join the Google Talk Open Group on Google Groups and help people fix bugs or figure out how to kill bugs that you might have!
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I find that MSN is used more often up here in Canada... any word on compatibility?
Will they implement it too?
Apparently, there are some problems with certain servers (malformed XML), and there's no support for chat rooms yet. This is not really google's fault if that's true, since it's the other server that are sending out the malformed XML, and google seems to use strict checking...
I guess the lacking features will be added later, but it would have been nice to have that already.
I'll probably stick with Skype for now.
We should really slap google (by means of some sort of "internetworked slapping device") for not supporting desktop linux... Gtalk, gvideo store, their desktop search appliance, ... No linux versions for any of these!
Very disappointing if you ask me.
AIM may be coming or it may not but don't rely on the buddy icons to tell you.
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Buddy Icons is http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0084.html and is probably almost ready for public usage, if it is enabled on that CES-demo version.
If google decide to enable transports for AIM (and msn and icq and irc) got nothing to do with this.
Was setting up chat via jabber to some co-workers, and found that I didn't need to set up a jabber.org account, I could talk to them directly with my google talk account. Worked pretty seamlessly (To both @jabber.org accounts and @bgmn.net accounts), including a chat room. I was using GAIM as a client.
Google Talk was always XMPP client to server (c2s), but they started accepting open federation recently (yesterday, as far as I know) using the XMPP server to server protocol (s2s).
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Wow, Google Talk's value would go up immensely if one of the biggest IM networks supported this and Google Talk users could talk to them. A big IM network like... AOL...
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Just because the word "federation" is involved shouldn't trigger visions of the corporate fantasy called "Star Drek: The Next Generation" or the complete garbage of "Star Drek: Enterprise."
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While there's no shortage of SPIM on the proprietary networks, if federation means an increase in connectivity between disparate (and arbitrary?) IM networks, is there any trust process to keep rogue servers off of the network? Is it a matter of blacklisting/delinking?
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eldavojohn is a well-known Slashdot karma whore. Notice that his comment is in no way relevant to the news that GTalk now supports XMPP. It is entirely off-topic, especially for such an early post, and as such does not deserve the high score it has.
I've tried many of the most common voip applications.......
Most sound like two tin can's and a piece of string, when compared to Skype.
Skype might be proprietary, but they have all of the others beat by a mile.
If fanboys don't like comments about better alternatives for non-Windows systems, then they should just reply and say so.
http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html
But thanks for the update on those clients.
The article links to the Googleblog, which does indeed have the post by Mike Jazayeri, the Product Manager for Google Talk.
The Google GTalk Blog (or Google Talkabout) has a similar update, but this one's by Gary Burd, one of the software engineers of Google Talk.
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That was one of the first things I learned about XMPP back when I wrote a Jabber library in C++ to support my honors thesis project. I wrote this fancy XML-stream library and then re-wrote it when I tried to use it to talk to a Jabber server and discovered that Jabber's concept of what XML is and how it works is more broken than .
To be frank, if Jabber weren't already so popular, I would have written a replacement for it 4 years ago. It wouldn't be that hard to do it right.
If you want an open-source, multi-platform alternative, as noted on the GTalk website, you can try Psi. Psi also has alpha "Jingle" voice chat support that is compatible with Google Talk. Read here for special instructions on how to connect to Google's server "natively", as opposed to over S2S.
You have them, you just weren't trying hard enough. This should work with any capable Jabber client (Google Talk is not capable, nor is GAIM), but I'm using Psi as a example for lack of better alternative. Psi is also available for Windows, MacOS and Linux.
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I tried yesterday to store my photo in VCard on GoogleTalk server. It didn't work, which is strange -- photo in VCard is standard way to define avatars. It works with other jabber servers.
And support for MUC (Multi User Chat) is spotty -- some users were invisible to google account.
Both situation tested with Gajim.
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The Google Talk people updated the server yesterday. It fixes the XML problem with bad servers.
>(*cough* ursine.ca *cough*)
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No need to cough
Jabber.org is running a list of public servers, most of which provide a number of gateways to other networks. If you can't get a particular gateway on, say, jabber.org, try to use any of those.
Note that you can have an account on one server and use gateways on other server(s).
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Most of the problem with dodgy HTML is that the parsers in browser allowed buggy HTML instead of throwing up errors and forcing authors to fix their code. Hopefully no one will do the same for XML.
Does Google's client support TLS yet? Every version I've tested (with ethereal, on computers both with and without firewalls/antivirus) doesn't do any encryption (either that or ethereal can magically decrypt gtalk but not gaim). I've posted on the groups and sent bug reports, and it just doesn't seem to get fixed. It surprises me because it seems every third party client will only connect if TLS or SSL is enabled.
...because neither Skype nor GTalk use their own audio codec. They both license it, coincidentially from the same company (Global IP Sound)! If you don't believe me, check each program's 'About' dialog.
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Google Talk's support of server-to-server XMPP is great and all, but they still aren't supporting STARTTLS. Some people choose to use and/or operate Jabber (XMPP) servers specifically because there is a desire for encrypted messaging. Federating is great, but encrypted federating is better.
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I use and really like Adium, but the one major thing it doesn't do that GAIM does is IRC. Which is weird, since that's built in to libgaim (which Adium uses). And it's doubly weird since the Adium developers hang out on an IRC channel. Doesn't that make their heads explode? Guess not.
Now that Google does allow communication with other servers, you would also be able to register for an AIM, ICQ, MSN or Yahoo gateway on another server and talk to those contacts that way.
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