" Don't dodge the excellent point that was made. You say you weren't arrogant and yet you unintentially revealed that you feel that chess was above these people and that's why they didn't like it.
Maybe there were many other times when your arrogance showed which you were not consciously aware of."
I did say they don't get chess but there are things I freely admit to not getting. I have always seen intellegence as a tradeoff. I know people who are better at fixing cars than I ever will be and I know some people who enjoy working with thier hands and buidling things I could never match. So they don't understand chess? Big deal. I've never counted them less for it.
Those people don't have any right to look down on me and I don't have the right to look down on them.
It's an observation.. I was respected as long as I was doing something they understood to be fun. As soon as I deviated from that they did what they could to make it not fun for me either.
There is nothing arrogant about pulling out a portable chess game and having a game while stuck in a lineup. Or about quietly reading.
Learning to comunicate is one thing.. having to dodge jerks is quite another.
By my final year of highschool I had mastered the social structure enough to avoid most of the problems but even then a simple thing like playing chess was considered asking for trouble.
I can't count the number of times I had to hunt around the school floors for bits of my magnetic chess board because some idiot couldn't stand the fact that we were doing something they couldn't get and found boring and felt an extreme need to interupt the game by knocking the board over.
I was not arrogent I treated others well, bathed regularly, used deoderant and dressed neatly. I really don't understand why I as the nerd should have to take any of the blame whatsoever.
Note that this will make the creation debate more intense since now it could be argued that if it expands forver there had to be a fixed point in time when it began and therefore something had to cause such a beginning.
The debates over what caused the beginning are about to get a lot more interesting.
It seems to me that zero configuration automatic sharing of resources is exactly what I don't want.
I'm seeing a lot of features but where is the security? This looks a lot like how older versions of windows used to share the contents of your drive over ethernet but not dialup without asking and theres a good reason they stopped doing that.
Germans have a much more ballanced view on alcohol. Contrary to what a lot of the religious right and others who wish to protect us from ourselves the bible does not actually ban drinking. It only bans getting drunk or becomming addicted.
It's also important to note that beer taken in moderation is actually good for you and so are several other alcoholic drinks such as red wine.
One can also enjoy beer for it's flavour although that is hard to do when all you can find on the store shelves is wattered down crap like Molsons or Labatts. Yes I realise your average American finds those to be strong, and it is compared to say Budwieser, but my German heritage demands I drink *good* beer and that means microbrewed with ingrediants in compliance with the German purity laws.
My last office had a 10 mb fiber link and browsing and downloads for 30 people was cheap and remained below 512k on average, unfortunatly a single machine left with kazaa would jump the useage to 6mb.
The office policy ended up banning p2p apps but left the machines free for personal use.
There are several groups who go off on vigalante DDos atttacks. It's all the fun of a DDos with none of the guilt according to the members I've talked to.
"We can break stuff and our parents will pat us on the head if we get caught"
Realistically the only difference between ftp and dcc is how the start is negotiated.
Most likely the only reason you see a difference is because dcc are likely to be on cable or worse yet dialup while ftp is likely to be on a server grade connections.
I remember a coupple of years ago CBC news did a story on child porn online. In the middle of it they interviewed an RCMP officer who demonstrated how easy it was to find child porn. First thing he did was open Mirc and log onto dalnet.
As it sits now most of the wealth is in the hands of a few countries in while the rest of the world gets to be dirt poor.
Why shouldn't the wealth get spread out a bit? I mean God forbid someone in India gets a well paying job and gets to look forward to their children actually having a future.
"And they get to milk developers who work for free!"
"Milk" implies that they don't contribute their share and from watching linux-kernel I can tell you thier engineers are responsable for many of the scaleabillity improvments added so far during the 2.5.x development cycle.
I don't find it that supprising espectially if your given people who don't quite know what they are doing.
My last place of employment had a tech that overrode my plan to use an anonymous FTP server because he heard that was insecure. Instead he setup a username for the account and embedded the username and password in the publically available software.. but forgot to make sure that username couldn't add or remove files from it's own account. (oops)
But in general that's the exact sort of thing I expect to find anywhere you have people who know just a little too much but not quite enough to make informed security plans.
That depends on the reason for writing it in the first place.. was it to do something they needed done? Do they need it to make their own buieness function? Was it something just for fun?
Or hey maybe they were making money off it.. many developers are actually payed by one copany or another. Redhat, SuSE, Mandrake, IBM and connectiva all pay developers.
Then again so what if it does get dropped? It's not that hard to hire someone else to fix it.
Then again it's not as if I've never had commercial products simply discontinued on a whim. At least with Open Source you have options after.
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ARE still cooler. Some still exist. Some friends have one running at telnet://bbs.mysticone.com
We even have registered Tradewars and LORD.
It's like... the BBS days minus the long distance charges(and multi node is suddenly much cheaper).
If that is the case then why hasn't the server version also been pushed back?
In this case the fault was with a development tool that created software that Microsoft knew to be covered by patents.
It's an aguement to use something written by a company who actually cares about it's customers.
That sort of thing was much easier to do after I gained a little weight. Previous to that I wasn't much of a match for them.
After I filled out I dedicted a lot of my time to protecting some of the smaller friends but even then you have to see who did it to strike back.
" Don't dodge the excellent point that was made. You say you weren't arrogant and yet you unintentially revealed that you feel that chess was above these people and that's why they didn't like it.
Maybe there were many other times when your arrogance showed which you were not consciously aware of."
I did say they don't get chess but there are things I freely admit to not getting. I have always seen intellegence as a tradeoff. I know people who are better at fixing cars than I ever will be and I know some people who enjoy working with thier hands and buidling things I could never match. So they don't understand chess? Big deal. I've never counted them less for it.
Those people don't have any right to look down on me and I don't have the right to look down on them.
It's an observation.. I was respected as long as I was doing something they understood to be fun. As soon as I deviated from that they did what they could to make it not fun for me either.
There is nothing arrogant about pulling out a portable chess game and having a game while stuck in a lineup. Or about quietly reading.
Learning to comunicate is one thing.. having to dodge jerks is quite another.
By my final year of highschool I had mastered the social structure enough to avoid most of the problems but even then a simple thing like playing chess was considered asking for trouble.
I can't count the number of times I had to hunt around the school floors for bits of my magnetic chess board because some idiot couldn't stand the fact that we were doing something they couldn't get and found boring and felt an extreme need to interupt the game by knocking the board over.
I was not arrogent I treated others well, bathed regularly, used deoderant and dressed neatly. I really don't understand why I as the nerd should have to take any of the blame whatsoever.
Ends one debate and begins another.
Note that this will make the creation debate more intense since now it could be argued that if it expands forver there had to be a fixed point in time when it began and therefore something had to cause such a beginning.
The debates over what caused the beginning are about to get a lot more interesting.
It seems to me that zero configuration automatic sharing of resources is exactly what I don't want.
I'm seeing a lot of features but where is the security? This looks a lot like how older versions of windows used to share the contents of your drive over ethernet but not dialup without asking and theres a good reason they stopped doing that.
Or have I missed something?
Germans have a much more ballanced view on alcohol. Contrary to what a lot of the religious right and others who wish to protect us from ourselves the bible does not actually ban drinking. It only bans getting drunk or becomming addicted.
It's also important to note that beer taken in moderation is actually good for you and so are several other alcoholic drinks such as red wine.
One can also enjoy beer for it's flavour although that is hard to do when all you can find on the store shelves is wattered down crap like Molsons or Labatts. Yes I realise your average American finds those to be strong, and it is compared to say Budwieser, but my German heritage demands I drink *good* beer and that means microbrewed with ingrediants in compliance with the German purity laws.
My last office had a 10 mb fiber link and browsing and downloads for 30 people was cheap and remained below 512k on average, unfortunatly a single machine left with kazaa would jump the useage to 6mb.
The office policy ended up banning p2p apps but left the machines free for personal use.
*bzzt* guess again.
There are several groups who go off on vigalante DDos atttacks. It's all the fun of a DDos with none of the guilt according to the members I've talked to.
"We can break stuff and our parents will pat us on the head if we get caught"
Realistically the only difference between ftp and dcc is how the start is negotiated.
Most likely the only reason you see a difference is because dcc are likely to be on cable or worse yet dialup while ftp is likely to be on a server grade connections.
Just use the nifty new XML format and use your favorite scripting language. You also get a more powerfull setup.
The "everything is an executable" thing just sucks and if MS cares at all about security they would put an end to it.
Or meeting law enforcement from outher countries.
I remember a coupple of years ago CBC news did a story on child porn online. In the middle of it they interviewed an RCMP officer who demonstrated how easy it was to find child porn. First thing he did was open Mirc and log onto dalnet.
Actually I have always found the child porn chans much more annoying.
You would think those chans would produce a hell of a lot of vigalante DDos attacks so why don't they close those first?
Just drop it shiney side up into the microwave on high for 2 seconds.
The result is a cool looking cracked pattern and your AOL cd is now a decorative coaster or something to hang on the wall.
That all falls apart when you consider how much of the United States' wealth comes from selling products to other countries.
As it sits now most of the wealth is in the hands of a few countries in while the rest of the world gets to be dirt poor.
Why shouldn't the wealth get spread out a bit? I mean God forbid someone in India gets a well paying job and gets to look forward to their children actually having a future.
"What part of "consumer desktops" confused you? Was it the "consumer" part, or the "desktop" part?"
Actually SUN has had consumer hardware out for a few years now 64: bit goodness with an IDE drive. I keep wishing for one of their laptops.
"And they get to milk developers who work for free!"
"Milk" implies that they don't contribute their share and from watching linux-kernel I can tell you thier engineers are responsable for many of the scaleabillity improvments added so far during the 2.5.x development cycle.
I don't find it that supprising espectially if your given people who don't quite know what they are doing.
.. but forgot to make sure that username couldn't add or remove files from it's own account. (oops)
My last place of employment had a tech that overrode my plan to use an anonymous FTP server because he heard that was insecure. Instead he setup a username for the account and embedded the username and password in the publically available software
But in general that's the exact sort of thing I expect to find anywhere you have people who know just a little too much but not quite enough to make informed security plans.
If only the story poster had actually read the paper.
They used a custom checker that finds these things much more effiectivly than lint.
I actually remember the flood of bug reports and kernel patches that toy of theirs generated the first few months they put it to use on the kernel.
That depends on the reason for writing it in the first place.. was it to do something they needed done? Do they need it to make their own buieness function? Was it something just for fun?
Or hey maybe they were making money off it.. many developers are actually payed by one copany or another. Redhat, SuSE, Mandrake, IBM and connectiva all pay developers.
Then again so what if it does get dropped? It's not that hard to hire someone else to fix it.
Then again it's not as if I've never had commercial products simply discontinued on a whim.
At least with Open Source you have options after.
"The judge found that Kraven exhibited "highly exaggerated muscle tone in arms and legs.""
.. if exaggerated musles make craven nonhuman than what about Barbie's extremely small waist size?
This begs the question