If he did do that within 24 hours you would see 3 or 4 new sourceforge projects based on clean room implementations of SSH or forks of the existing one before Theo pulled the plug.
It would turn into an incompatible and ugly mess.
But SSH is here to stay as much as ftp and tcp/ip are here to stay regardless of how many versions and rewrites of applications that use htem exist.
I was thinking commercial software doesn't solve every problem. Especially setting standards. BSD, TCP/IP, and even the WWW were funded by tax payers.
Maybe we could convince our politicians to grant security and os development with some univerisities that use OpenBSD.
Its obvious the software is valuable to the commerical world and hackers but their business model is not working. IT has to be a business and not a charity or research organization to survive.
BSD came from academia and perhaps it should return? How much of Linux has univerisity code sponsored by the tax payers? My guess is alot.
What if you need 2 or more processors? What if all your IT work is done in India because of the bean counters and these bean counters are needed to pay for Oracle on your 4 cpu system? Fat chance it will get approvaed.
Sql-Server is insanely popular because you can get support for 1/10th the cost of Oracle. There is also db2 and Sysbase or Postgresql.
Keep in mind you can find a jr database programmer/admin for $40-60k a year. The same cost savings from not using Oracle on an smp system.
And you just gave a great example of why Windows and MACOSX are still prefered for the average joes.
There is no need to be rude back not to mention Linux is a HARD os if you encounter bugs if your not experienced with unix.
You mentioned that its not windows or osx, well your right and it will stay that way until newbies are treated a little better and taken more seriously.
Well alot of linux users are abusive to people who ask for help like "RTFA man page!" or "Well it works on my computer".
I am not saying this guy is right or he wasn't a jerk. But I couldn't stand this attitude and switched to FreeBSD several years ago. It seems the professionals in that community will help and are friendlier if you try to do something and RTFA and still need further help.
Actually his take on non FOSS available "packaged" is what makes the article great and yes brutally honest.
Linux users use linux because its free and powerfull. Most dont care about the gnu vs bsd licenses. If your not a developer opensource wont help you unless someone else makes what you need. Of course I prefer the BSD license but my point is I want to learn and get work done. Not try to be political.
Second, packaged commercial software is important in the real world. How many folks do you know who refuse to buy macs because they believe MS Office is unavailable?
Yes its there but most dont want to be in a situation where the mac turns into a doorstop if software vendors leave. My father wont buy a mac because he is afraid his digital camera might not work even though its supported. I know this is all fud but its quite powerfull in the eyes of the consumers who like WindowsXP.
In the corporate office somethings are only commercial and buying closed software is the norm. In this regard unix still has more commercial software than linux and Windows has almost all ISV programs ported to windows on the server.
I can't find a good argument to use linux other than browsing the web with firefox and writing a document or 2 with openoffice. Unless of course you are a developer then its a powerfull platform.
But the author put the fact that Microsoft's development tools were non portable as a negative. Most corporate users dont care as they only use Microsoft products and want something that ties into windows and outlook, etc. You can do RAD in windows very easily with the nice tools that linux is catching up in.
Isn't that illegal under the emancipation proclamation because owning a body is slavery?
You can't own a body but your own. Anti slavery laws from the 19th century should cover that and could be used in court.
It angers me that someone owns me and is using money to extort me of medication. I have no health insurance b3ecause I am a college student and work full time. I lost a month's wage just to see a doctor and get some medication from a condition I have. How much did the pharmacutical industry price gouge me?
The Ipod and the mp3 player market, much more advanced 3d video cards, composite 3d accelerated desktops, new video players and microized computers that are pda in size (blackberry, Ipod video, Orgami, etc), a shift from dynamic cgi websites to interactive ones wiht complex javascript and ajax, and the $100 computer that is quite feature filled.
Whats in the futre? Better wifi and other internet technologies that are wireless, physics accelerators in 3d cards, 3d interfaces, and seemingless networked clusters or SSI(single system image) where you can hook up several computers that act as one whole computer image rather than the traditional cluster.
Also phones are going to take off as well with bluetooth and other technologies. The europeans already have it because they are not under monopolies who like to sell trusted drm midi ringtones for $3.
I mean you dont have anything to prove he/she was a bad worker?
I see most people get in trouble for things everyone gets in trouble for or they are intentionally given things that are impossible to accomplish on purpose so they have a paper trail on why to fire someone. That way if they sue they can use the papertrail to show he/she was inept due to their job performance.
Which makes the USA the best place in the world to start a small business as well as wealth creation.
Small business and startups have an insane near %90 failure rate 2 years after they open. Bad employees will make it much higher. If your retirement savings and home were used as equilateral for the loan for your business then you lose that too and perhaps your marriage if it fails due to a couple of bad apples that you need to fire.
Capitalism is the most efficient system around and this is coming from someone who is considered a liberal and left wing nut by those in US.
I have been fired only 48 hours after working for one place with no reason at all other than the manager didn't like me.
Most states are right to work so they can do that.
Employers have the right to fire people on spot for any reason at all. The reason why I am agaisnt suing is because its unfair that blue collar workers such as myself have no right at all and get paid 1/5th what the upper middle class white collar workers do which do sue for wrongfull termination. We have no rights at all and have to sign contracts making us employed at will.
And most states even the CEO can be fired for no reason at all if its a right to work state.
Also the shareholders own the company and yes if the CEO owns less then %50 of the company then he can be fired. Its just part of business. ANd if you owned a company I think most people would have a different opinion as bad workers can make or break your company and take your dreams down with it when you go under.
But it is rather strange as I would assume it was a windows problem. But I have never heard of rebuilding tcp/ip stacks?
Yes it is dells problem. They decided to use that adapter in their lineup and therefore are responsible for their systems and support. If they knew it was bad its their fault and should have made their own or used someone elses. Intel used to make the best aadapters around. Infact in 99 they were recommended for linux due to their low cpu usage and great driver support. Today they are a joke.
The computers will mysteriously stop using DNS even if you do a ipconfig/renewall. Their solution is to have a tech continiously run around campus with a floppy of a tcp/ip stack.dll. The drivers on the nics continiously keep recorrupting the dlls.
I want to learn database programming for my java course and for personal growth. I wanted to learn postgresql as I was aware for years its a real database unlike mysql 3.x. But 5.x is about finished and most distro's come with 4.x which come with alot of features postgresql have.
But for me windows support and mysqladmin are easy for non mission critical stuff like my home pc. So I am starting with mysql and I will learn postgresql by this summer.
Microsoft and the MPAA are giving Sony hell over blueray.
Mainly because its drm lacks managed copies which Microsoft wants to help limit the piracy of windows and other microsoft products. So in return MS is backing HD-DVD.
With everyone on board teh hd-dvd bandwaggon Sony might end up with another beta which it would like to avoid. So they are doing what they can to make sure they survive and the playstation3 will be pretty useless if it can't read industry standard hd-dvd only movies which will come out if no one supports blueray.
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If he did do that within 24 hours you would see 3 or 4 new sourceforge projects based on clean room implementations of SSH or forks of the existing one before Theo pulled the plug.
It would turn into an incompatible and ugly mess.
But SSH is here to stay as much as ftp and tcp/ip are here to stay regardless of how many versions and rewrites of applications that use htem exist.
I was thinking commercial software doesn't solve every problem. Especially setting standards. BSD, TCP/IP, and even the WWW were funded by tax payers.
Maybe we could convince our politicians to grant security and os development with some univerisities that use OpenBSD.
Its obvious the software is valuable to the commerical world and hackers but their business model is not working. IT has to be a business and not a charity or research organization to survive.
BSD came from academia and perhaps it should return? How much of Linux has univerisity code sponsored by the tax payers? My guess is alot.
Theo would be quite a high profile speaker.
Besides his contributions to OpenBSD and OpenSSH, he is a well known security expert and unix hacker.
His knowledge would be quite valuable to many professionals who want to learn how to write secure code and operating systems.
.. or redbull.
Remember they are hackers not bumbs. Of course they dont cut their hair, grow beards, and a few shower less regulary so I can see the confusion.
I say it is a very hard decision to make.
What if you need 2 or more processors? What if all your IT work is done in India because of the bean counters and these bean counters are needed to pay for Oracle on your 4 cpu system? Fat chance it will get approvaed.
Sql-Server is insanely popular because you can get support for 1/10th the cost of Oracle. There is also db2 and Sysbase or Postgresql.
Keep in mind you can find a jr database programmer/admin for $40-60k a year. The same cost savings from not using Oracle on an smp system.
And you just gave a great example of why Windows and MACOSX are still prefered for the average joes.
There is no need to be rude back not to mention Linux is a HARD os if you encounter bugs if your not experienced with unix.
You mentioned that its not windows or osx, well your right and it will stay that way until newbies are treated a little better and taken more seriously.
Well alot of linux users are abusive to people who ask for help like "RTFA man page!" or "Well it works on my computer".
I am not saying this guy is right or he wasn't a jerk. But I couldn't stand this attitude and switched to FreeBSD several years ago. It seems the professionals in that community will help and are friendlier if you try to do something and RTFA and still need further help.
This will turn grandma away for linux for good.
Actually his take on non FOSS available "packaged" is what makes the article great and yes brutally honest.
Linux users use linux because its free and powerfull. Most dont care about the gnu vs bsd licenses. If your not a developer opensource wont help you unless someone else makes what you need. Of course I prefer the BSD license but my point is I want to learn and get work done. Not try to be political.
Second, packaged commercial software is important in the real world. How many folks do you know who refuse to buy macs because they believe MS Office is unavailable?
Yes its there but most dont want to be in a situation where the mac turns into a doorstop if software vendors leave. My father wont buy a mac because he is afraid his digital camera might not work even though its supported. I know this is all fud but its quite powerfull in the eyes of the consumers who like WindowsXP.
In the corporate office somethings are only commercial and buying closed software is the norm. In this regard unix still has more commercial software than linux and Windows has almost all ISV programs ported to windows on the server.
I can't find a good argument to use linux other than browsing the web with firefox and writing a document or 2 with openoffice. Unless of course you are a developer then its a powerfull platform.
But the author put the fact that Microsoft's development tools were non portable as a negative. Most corporate users dont care as they only use Microsoft products and want something that ties into windows and outlook, etc. You can do RAD in windows very easily with the nice tools that linux is catching up in.
Isn't that illegal under the emancipation proclamation because owning a body is slavery?
You can't own a body but your own. Anti slavery laws from the 19th century should cover that and could be used in court.
It angers me that someone owns me and is using money to extort me of medication. I have no health insurance b3ecause I am a college student and work full time. I lost a month's wage just to see a doctor and get some medication from a condition I have. How much did the pharmacutical industry price gouge me?
BUt would the vacuum cleaner no longer "suck" if it ran windows?
But your not buying windows. Your buying only a licensed copy to use it. It just happens to come with a cd.
So therefor the law of first doctrine needs not to be applied as its a copy and a license and not an actual product.
I dont agree with this mind you, but this is how the lawyers at microsoft interpret and get away with it.
Odd hu?
Which is why I stopped using fedoracore. The wrong buttons and the contrast from windows drove me nuts as I kept clicking the wrong botton.
What has come out in the 21st century?
The Ipod and the mp3 player market, much more advanced 3d video cards, composite 3d accelerated desktops, new video players and microized computers that are pda in size (blackberry, Ipod video, Orgami, etc), a shift from dynamic cgi websites to interactive ones wiht complex javascript and ajax, and the $100 computer that is quite feature filled.
Whats in the futre? Better wifi and other internet technologies that are wireless, physics accelerators in 3d cards, 3d interfaces, and seemingless networked clusters or SSI(single system image) where you can hook up several computers that act as one whole computer image rather than the traditional cluster.
Also phones are going to take off as well with bluetooth and other technologies. The europeans already have it because they are not under monopolies who like to sell trusted drm midi ringtones for $3.
Wouldn't that just prove discrimination?
I mean you dont have anything to prove he/she was a bad worker?
I see most people get in trouble for things everyone gets in trouble for or they are intentionally given things that are impossible to accomplish on purpose so they have a paper trail on why to fire someone. That way if they sue they can use the papertrail to show he/she was inept due to their job performance.
Which makes the USA the best place in the world to start a small business as well as wealth creation.
Small business and startups have an insane near %90 failure rate 2 years after they open. Bad employees will make it much higher. If your retirement savings and home were used as equilateral for the loan for your business then you lose that too and perhaps your marriage if it fails due to a couple of bad apples that you need to fire.
Capitalism is the most efficient system around and this is coming from someone who is considered a liberal and left wing nut by those in US.
I have been fired only 48 hours after working for one place with no reason at all other than the manager didn't like me.
Most states are right to work so they can do that.
Employers have the right to fire people on spot for any reason at all. The reason why I am agaisnt suing is because its unfair that blue collar workers such as myself have no right at all and get paid 1/5th what the upper middle class white collar workers do which do sue for wrongfull termination. We have no rights at all and have to sign contracts making us employed at will.
And most states even the CEO can be fired for no reason at all if its a right to work state.
Also the shareholders own the company and yes if the CEO owns less then %50 of the company then he can be fired. Its just part of business. ANd if you owned a company I think most people would have a different opinion as bad workers can make or break your company and take your dreams down with it when you go under.
I dont work there. Just go to school.
But it is rather strange as I would assume it was a windows problem. But I have never heard of rebuilding tcp/ip stacks?
Yes it is dells problem. They decided to use that adapter in their lineup and therefore are responsible for their systems and support. If they knew it was bad its their fault and should have made their own or used someone elses. Intel used to make the best aadapters around. Infact in 99 they were recommended for linux due to their low cpu usage and great driver support. Today they are a joke.
At my univeristy the techs hate dell.
/renewall. Their solution is to have a tech continiously run around campus with a floppy of a tcp/ip stack .dll. The drivers on the nics continiously keep recorrupting the dlls.
The computers will mysteriously stop using DNS even if you do a ipconfig
Nice machines... not!@
Yes but it doesn't suck as MUCH as it did!
I want to learn database programming for my java course and for personal growth. I wanted to learn postgresql as I was aware for years its a real database unlike mysql 3.x. But 5.x is about finished and most distro's come with 4.x which come with alot of features postgresql have.
But for me windows support and mysqladmin are easy for non mission critical stuff like my home pc. So I am starting with mysql and I will learn postgresql by this summer.
Microsoft owns crystal reports. that should tell you alot.
Like the other guy said use odbc. Too bad the native windows port of postgresql is still lacking and requires cygwin. ADO.net support would be nice.
Microsoft and the MPAA are giving Sony hell over blueray.
Mainly because its drm lacks managed copies which Microsoft wants to help limit the piracy of windows and other microsoft products. So in return MS is backing HD-DVD.
With everyone on board teh hd-dvd bandwaggon Sony might end up with another beta which it would like to avoid. So they are doing what they can to make sure they survive and the playstation3 will be pretty useless if it can't read industry standard hd-dvd only movies which will come out if no one supports blueray.
Let me guess"? Autocad?
Its a shame the cad market is going to windows from unix. Its certainly no unix and the vendors drank the NT coolaid from all teh hype in the 90's.
You need a real unix like solaris for this feature and not linux.
Although I heard linux has limited support for profiling these days I dont know how good it is for monitoring regular applications in userspace.
It was created during the roosevelt years when America became socialists.
Yes, the republicans realized they could have kept reagan and many kicked themselves for producing it.
They love Bush and republicans today also make an oath to the president and his vision besides an oath of office. That in itself is pretty scary.