I looked for opengl in java and found no implementations. I admit I only looked casually but I do plan to do some coding in java next semester at school and would like to know.
I know from experience on my athlon with 512 megs of ram. I keep running out of memory when I run frostwire and azaerus. Of course I also use trillian and Firefox which would explain alot I admit.
Worst, swing is not threaded properly by default so the gui locks up when its busy unless the programmer specifically multithreads the code dealing with swing. THis creates the illusion that the java app is slow and unresponsive and people assume its because its written in Java. Most gui java apps do this and the hour glass pops up while the windows become grayed out.
Vs.net apps do not have this problem and you just simple use winforms and when the app is busy then the gui wont become unresonsive. This is why the.net developers don't like java.
Netbeans takes 210 megs of ram and its unreal. Eclipse is worse. Visual studio.net takes 1/4th the amount of ram.
No its not slow and the language is perfect for servlets where the bottleneck is database and network access and not the cpu's speed. But a pig it is for desktop apps since a c++ or c# app takes a much smaller amount of memory to run.
One liners in perl are very very bad. Because of the garbage filter in slashdot I can't post examples, but do a google search on decss and perl and read teh 6 lines of code in the perl port?... shudder
If anyone can understand it without looking up perl programing docs I would be highly impressed.
I was told by Itunes another library would be created. Not anything to the fact that the first one would be deleted afterwards.
This happened a few hours ago and I emailed them. I have some of my mp3's backed up but I have a ton and my backup solution can't handle all of them. Still its a pain and no I didn't make it up.
If I knew what it would do I certainly would of googled around and used a backup program like the other posters mentioned. Not whining but the first poster bitched about drm and losing music in case of a system failure and I mentioned this happened with me and its a very valid concern. If there were a drm free device I would use it.
Well a fucking warning of "hey dont do this. A new library will delete the old one and erase your shit rather than create one for a different user" would be more appropriate, rather than knowing about the problem after it is already too late. I think most replies here are just from abunch of smart asses
If the music collection was worth $800 or more I would certainly sue as much as I hate lawyers. No documentation is mentioned about a potential deletion even in the Itunes help section. Its drm and at its worst.
Why are my own music and computer devices acting like policemen and assuming I am a thief? It was all legit music and until drm is out I will recommend we all boycott such devices.
Actually I just reformatted my system not too long ago.
Sure my old library was there but it was drmed and grayed out. I tried to remerge and set myself as teh new owner of the ipod since I tried all options. Itunes deleted about $400 worth of music and wiped my whole collection clean.:-(
No I am not still bitter nor will I ever buy a drm based device again.
Coca cola and pepsi are ogliopolies and the soda's are not even that good. They use distribution to lock out rivals to artificially keep their prices high. Most of it is product differentation which means they do mass marketing to convince people their products are somehow supperior and people believe it.
Now that groccers and large retailers like walmart have power, they can produce their own low cost soda's that are equally as good and half the price.
Microsoft invented the EULA that we all see. Until recently they were not even a binding agreement because a laywer and a notary needs to be present.
However MS set teh standard and changed the industry to ignore laws with some strange eula that the user does not even see to make them imune to any laws. Did you know sony has eulas for their cd's?
Anyway after what happened with ms taking over I can imagine many IT suppliers thought it would be a good idea to plant landmines to block any competition and keep their customers locked in. Its a great way to make even more money to please the shareholders.
But if you had a post that was originally a plus +5, and then some guy mentioned all your grammatical mistakes and you got modded down while he has a +5 in points is a form of humiliation.
To a casual reader the guy pointing the finger gets modded up while you get modded down in front of thousands of people.
I have no problem with pointing out grammatical errors, but rather giving that guy a +5 while the parent's karma goes down is a different matter.
" Sometimes it does matter to know the different."
You mean difference.:-)
This proves my point that people who type fast make common grammatical mistakes.
Yes I know the difference between effect and affect, but I will be damned if I have to check every post for proper english usage.
A college paper or resume is a different matter in which proper grammer is very important as it shows your own personal knowledge and the content you want to delivery.
She went to college in 1996 and got the 5300 on super sale. Hmm wonder why?
The keyboard is missing lots of keys on it and the software is very unstable. She had alot of nerdy friends in college so I assumed they bad mouthed the mac to her like most geeks did back then. But she went on and on about problems with it and slow performance. Yes I know about the macOS upgrade and suggested it but she didn't want to hear it. She used it for one year before she left it in the closet and gave it to her mother when she decided to go back to school herself.
Today my gf is a photographer and even though her colleagues uses macs she is persistant on using photoshop with windows as a result. Amazing what one bad product experience can do. I bought an ipod a few months ago and she didn't like it because it had the apple brand on it. I educated her that is ran on windows and now she is somewhat considering purchasing one.
I suppose every company has its lemons. I heard stories of a few bad honda's as well even though they make one of the most reliable cars on the market.
But the 5300 was like a castrated emachine of its time and not something you think about when you think of apple.
I saw some benchmarks a few months ago that closes the gap in performance in c/c++ performance with gcc/g++ 4.0 and the Intel compilers.
Intel wrote them when gcc2.95 was still out and c++ performance was not that good nor was it truly modern ansi compliant by the iso. For example things like the STL were merely emulated and performance for non x86 cpu's was behind too.
With gcc3.x and now gcc4.x its fully caught up in almost all area's. Its nice now to have a nice c/c++ compiler for the alpha and mips processors that produce fast code.
I wonder if the rise of Linux and Free software is what made the compilers catch up?
By the way the Intel compiler is still the way to go for Fortran.
Still it's rude and it's a way to humiliate a member for something %80 of people make. I know I am not the only one who doesn't feel the need to make myself look better by bringing other people down.
This originally developed as a way to win arguments based on common errors in grammar for very long technical posts but this guy posted nothing flamebaitish. (omg not a real word)
Sure there are differences between "affect" and "effect" but can I remember them most of the time during a casual post in Slashdot? Hell no and I bet most of slashdotters make similar mistakes for quick posts. So if this makes me a retard with an IQ of 60 in your book then so be it!
Yes moderators should do their job and a +5 is overdoing it and not fair to the grandparent poster.
I am only talking about money going back into the market to inflate our GDP. Yes the cost of living is cheaper in India but my point in the grand parent post is it still hurts the us economy. An Indian consumer is not an American consumer and thus will buy less of your product. I personally believe its the reason why recessions are getting deeper on any sign of negative news while growth is being curbed even if the stock market is doing well. Its leakage of money from our country to overseas that is hurting our GPD and its not trickling back evenly. If everyone pays less and if the cost of living goes down then it will trickle down less and cause the situation to multiple.
I am referring to products business sell. Yes a house is chaper in Bangalore... or not from reading some comments here.
But a new car or computer still cost in the similiar price range in India than here. Maybe a little cheaper but not much. Most Indian developers buy used pentiumIII's to cut down on costs and purchase used cars or take public transporation.
An indian wont buy as many suites or clothing compared to someone with a similar job in america. Nor will they buy new equipment and goods. Most of the money an Indian makes will just be recycled in the Indian economy rather than here.
That is what I was refering too. I am looking at our nations GDP only from a business standpoint.
A o(n) algorithm is an o(n) algorithm. It doesn't matter what the language is. Unless you get into something radical like a lisp based functional langauge its pretty much the same.
The one odd thing about java I noticed so far is the lack of pointers. I wonder how you can create a dynamic structures without them? I did some practicing with C++ and pointers are essential as well as call by references to create any dynamic structure. I see there are custom libraries in java for things like stacks but its nice to write your own rather than use a premade api. There may be another way but for now I am just learning the basics right now in java.
But really I just want to learn to program. I cam apply it to any language and the HR weenies like code you can show them in a language required for the job. The market is hot for java for many server based apps so I am going to use java for my software and maybe some c. Perl is nice but I have seen my share of ugly code and my fear is my first jr programming job will require me to decipher the ugliest things known to man.
but really C like programing styles can apply to any language once you are know what you are doing. Its similiar. The only thing you need to specialize is learning api's and libraries which employers like.
Well you would have to compensate teh Indians equally to give them equal buying power to buy your products.
The whole reason people are outsourcing to China is because their competitors are doing it. there are high logistics costs that people forget as well as shipping. This is why cars are made here in the US and Canada.
Its a myth and in economics its called leakage. Meaning money from our GDP is not being reinvested in to boast the bubble but is leaked oversea's. This hurts our economy and as soon as americans stop living in debt due to changes in bankruptacy laws, we will see people not buying any products until the economy improves and the economy wont improve until people start buying again.
In a business environment this is a big problem. Toothpaste is toothpaste but for tech support staff whom have to memorize error codes for each printer model when it fails its a problem.
How do you replace a computer for some important director who has things due NOW! You can not ghost image a new pc for him while his is down if the image works on another desktop. Windows resets teh hal during installation and will bluescreen if you change the hardware suddenly. My windows2k box will blue screen if I change the bios settings from pic to apic and apm to acpi for example.
Its changes like these and software support is why businesses want one model, one printer, and one os, to support. Its also why Microsoft is making a steal here. Which company would you standardize? The one everyone else is using.
But Dell makes very thin profit margins and they are becoming the walmart of the pc industry. Extra assembly lines, database redesigns, and logistical controls, etc, cost big money and would eat into their profits more than a cost savings. Dell does not pay $400 for the same cpu you and I would pay. If anything Intel charges us more so dell can get theirs cheaper. Perhaps close to the same price as the amd chip
Because my computer science department wants to standardize on java in addition to c++. Why standardize on Java? Because its the most sought after language in business.
Don't believe me? Go to www.monsterboard.com or some job site and look at jobs in your area. Java is the most sought after language with c/c++ second, and perl third.
Java is essential for any big ecommerce servlet. Php is not there yet and neither is c#.net in terms of scalability and maturity.
I would have told him you had important things to do with your boss and limited time and go refer it to him. Sure he could have written something bad about you but good bosses would cut through the bs and get mad at this guy for fucking your time.
Then its a problem with your boss and him and not you. It seems this other guy needed to be fired and not you.
Also the fact that he was following you around and ordering you shows perhaps he wanted to get rid of you and it was setup politically so he could fire you. I dunno but it sounds like a lack of good management. Something to email your former bosses right away and talk to them and this guy about to clear things up.
I would surely require them to wear ties and nice clothes if I had your job. How could your clients take you seriously? Also what about the upper guys? Many think IT is just maintance and Indians can do it cheaper. IF you wear the same clothes as teh guys in the other departments then they will look to you as a peer and your guys more seriously.
I am under the impression that dress sells. Also if I were an investor I would like to see the programers more dressed to success. It would show a seriousness for business and customers love appearances.
People are baised. Its built into our human nature
I think its not taking your job casually like the grandparent mentioned but its based on group conformity at a subconscious level.
People flock with those like them. Geeks do it too with long haired guys who dont shower and live in hidden towers that play wow in their spare time and hack kernel code.:-)
Point of the matter is that customers and the higher ups wear ties and nice clothing as part of a group conformity with their peers as well as to make impressions. We are part of this group at work. We are there to make them happy and to be part of their team. Funny how only IT is getting outsourced but the marketing guys are not. Reason being is they share their values and fit more in their psychological role.
Yes psychology comes into role but that is the nature in a competitive environment.
In pyschology they study group conformity. Its a very powerfull influence and your beliefs and thought processes. For example during the filming of "planet of the apes", the monkey sat with the monkeys while the oragatangs sat with the orangatangs during lunch off the camera. Wearing a suit shows group confirmity to customers and higher ups that shows your part of the team.
The guys who are directors wear suits look at you differently. Its bad when your boss tries to explain value you guys bring to the organization to them. If your viewed as a maintance person then an Indian can do it cheaper. If you are valuable like the other departments that don't get outsourced then your job stays. Notice teh guys in marketing or manufactoring or not getting outsourced? Why you then?
If you have customers who come in then you need to look professional. It makes a difference and view of compentance and seriousness about your work. If you do not feel your job is serious enough where you have to be part of a valuable team or fit in with the culture then you shouldn't work there. The customers may feel your solutions may not be the best if you dont care what you do.
To me... its all BS.
But my gf works in the jewelry industry and it gives a different perspective. If you are not well dressed you go out of business. Plain and simple and it makes a subconscious decision.
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You mean java3d?
I looked for opengl in java and found no implementations. I admit I only looked casually but I do plan to do some coding in java next semester at school and would like to know.
It may not be slow but its very bloated.
.net developers don't like java.
I know from experience on my athlon with 512 megs of ram. I keep running out of memory when I run frostwire and azaerus. Of course I also use trillian and Firefox which would explain alot I admit.
Worst, swing is not threaded properly by default so the gui locks up when its busy unless the programmer specifically multithreads the code dealing with swing. THis creates the illusion that the java app is slow and unresponsive and people assume its because its written in Java. Most gui java apps do this and the hour glass pops up while the windows become grayed out.
Vs.net apps do not have this problem and you just simple use winforms and when the app is busy then the gui wont become unresonsive. This is why the
Netbeans takes 210 megs of ram and its unreal. Eclipse is worse. Visual studio.net takes 1/4th the amount of ram.
No its not slow and the language is perfect for servlets where the bottleneck is database and network access and not the cpu's speed. But a pig it is for desktop apps since a c++ or c# app takes a much smaller amount of memory to run.
Oh come on!
Since when has Microsoft ever released a product with bugs that was shipped too early?
I mean whats next? The Xbox360 was shipped too early and suffers from random lockups? Please..
Goto is nothing compared to the evils of perl!
... shudder
One liners in perl are very very bad. Because of the garbage filter in slashdot I can't post examples, but do a google search on decss and perl and read teh 6 lines of code in the perl port?
If anyone can understand it without looking up perl programing docs I would be highly impressed.
I was told by Itunes another library would be created. Not anything to the fact that the first one would be deleted afterwards.
This happened a few hours ago and I emailed them. I have some of my mp3's backed up but I have a ton and my backup solution can't handle all of them. Still its a pain and no I didn't make it up.
If I knew what it would do I certainly would of googled around and used a backup program like the other posters mentioned. Not whining but the first poster bitched about drm and losing music in case of a system failure and I mentioned this happened with me and its a very valid concern. If there were a drm free device I would use it.
Well a fucking warning of "hey dont do this. A new library will delete the old one and erase your shit rather than create one for a different user" would be more appropriate, rather than knowing about the problem after it is already too late. I think most replies here are just from abunch of smart asses
If the music collection was worth $800 or more I would certainly sue as much as I hate lawyers. No documentation is mentioned about a potential deletion even in the Itunes help section. Its drm and at its worst.
Why are my own music and computer devices acting like policemen and assuming I am a thief? It was all legit music and until drm is out I will recommend we all boycott such devices.
Well its very nice to know that I could use google after the problem occured and not before.
Itunes only asked me if I want to be setup as another user and transfer music from a different library. No mention of a deletion or a warning.
Actually I just reformatted my system not too long ago.
:-(
Sure my old library was there but it was drmed and grayed out. I tried to remerge and set myself as teh new owner of the ipod since I tried all options. Itunes deleted about $400 worth of music and wiped my whole collection clean.
No I am not still bitter nor will I ever buy a drm based device again.
Coca cola and pepsi are ogliopolies and the soda's are not even that good. They use distribution to lock out rivals to artificially keep their prices high. Most of it is product differentation which means they do mass marketing to convince people their products are somehow supperior and people believe it.
Now that groccers and large retailers like walmart have power, they can produce their own low cost soda's that are equally as good and half the price.
Microsoft invented the EULA that we all see. Until recently they were not even a binding agreement because a laywer and a notary needs to be present.
However MS set teh standard and changed the industry to ignore laws with some strange eula that the user does not even see to make them imune to any laws. Did you know sony has eulas for their cd's?
Anyway after what happened with ms taking over I can imagine many IT suppliers thought it would be a good idea to plant landmines to block any competition and keep their customers locked in. Its a great way to make even more money to please the shareholders.
But if you had a post that was originally a plus +5, and then some guy mentioned all your grammatical mistakes and you got modded down while he has a +5 in points is a form of humiliation.
To a casual reader the guy pointing the finger gets modded up while you get modded down in front of thousands of people.
I have no problem with pointing out grammatical errors, but rather giving that guy a +5 while the parent's karma goes down is a different matter.
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" Sometimes it does matter to know the different."
:-)
You mean difference.
This proves my point that people who type fast make common grammatical mistakes.
Yes I know the difference between effect and affect, but I will be damned if I have to check every post for proper english usage.
A college paper or resume is a different matter in which proper grammer is very important as it shows your own personal knowledge and the content you want to delivery.
She went to college in 1996 and got the 5300 on super sale. Hmm wonder why?
The keyboard is missing lots of keys on it and the software is very unstable. She had alot of nerdy friends in college so I assumed they bad mouthed the mac to her like most geeks did back then. But she went on and on about problems with it and slow performance. Yes I know about the macOS upgrade and suggested it but she didn't want to hear it. She used it for one year before she left it in the closet and gave it to her mother when she decided to go back to school herself.
Today my gf is a photographer and even though her colleagues uses macs she is persistant on using photoshop with windows as a result. Amazing what one bad product experience can do. I bought an ipod a few months ago and she didn't like it because it had the apple brand on it. I educated her that is ran on windows and now she is somewhat considering purchasing one.
I suppose every company has its lemons. I heard stories of a few bad honda's as well even though they make one of the most reliable cars on the market.
But the 5300 was like a castrated emachine of its time and not something you think about when you think of apple.
I saw some benchmarks a few months ago that closes the gap in performance in c/c++ performance with gcc/g++ 4.0 and the Intel compilers.
Intel wrote them when gcc2.95 was still out and c++ performance was not that good nor was it truly modern ansi compliant by the iso. For example things like the STL were merely emulated and performance for non x86 cpu's was behind too.
With gcc3.x and now gcc4.x its fully caught up in almost all area's. Its nice now to have a nice c/c++ compiler for the alpha and mips processors that produce fast code.
I wonder if the rise of Linux and Free software is what made the compilers catch up?
By the way the Intel compiler is still the way to go for Fortran.
Still it's rude and it's a way to humiliate a member for something %80 of people make. I know I am not the only one who doesn't feel the need to make myself look better by bringing other people down.
This originally developed as a way to win arguments based on common errors in grammar for very long technical posts but this guy posted nothing flamebaitish. (omg not a real word)
Sure there are differences between "affect" and "effect" but can I remember them most of the time during a casual post in Slashdot? Hell no and I bet most of slashdotters make similar mistakes for quick posts. So if this makes me a retard with an IQ of 60 in your book then so be it!
Yes moderators should do their job and a +5 is overdoing it and not fair to the grandparent poster.
I am only talking about money going back into the market to inflate our GDP. Yes the cost of living is cheaper in India but my point in the grand parent post is it still hurts the us economy. An Indian consumer is not an American consumer and thus will buy less of your product. I personally believe its the reason why recessions are getting deeper on any sign of negative news while growth is being curbed even if the stock market is doing well. Its leakage of money from our country to overseas that is hurting our GPD and its not trickling back evenly. If everyone pays less and if the cost of living goes down then it will trickle down less and cause the situation to multiple.
I am referring to products business sell. Yes a house is chaper in Bangalore ... or not from reading some comments here.
But a new car or computer still cost in the similiar price range in India than here. Maybe a little cheaper but not much. Most Indian developers buy used pentiumIII's to cut down on costs and purchase used cars or take public transporation.
An indian wont buy as many suites or clothing compared to someone with a similar job in america. Nor will they buy new equipment and goods. Most of the money an Indian makes will just be recycled in the Indian economy rather than here.
That is what I was refering too. I am looking at our nations GDP only from a business standpoint.
A o(n) algorithm is an o(n) algorithm. It doesn't matter what the language is. Unless you get into something radical like a lisp based functional langauge its pretty much the same.
The one odd thing about java I noticed so far is the lack of pointers. I wonder how you can create a dynamic structures without them? I did some practicing with C++ and pointers are essential as well as call by references to create any dynamic structure. I see there are custom libraries in java for things like stacks but its nice to write your own rather than use a premade api. There may be another way but for now I am just learning the basics right now in java.
But really I just want to learn to program. I cam apply it to any language and the HR weenies like code you can show them in a language required for the job. The market is hot for java for many server based apps so I am going to use java for my software and maybe some c. Perl is nice but I have seen my share of ugly code and my fear is my first jr programming job will require me to decipher the ugliest things known to man.
but really C like programing styles can apply to any language once you are know what you are doing. Its similiar. The only thing you need to specialize is learning api's and libraries which employers like.
Well you would have to compensate teh Indians equally to give them equal buying power to buy your products.
The whole reason people are outsourcing to China is because their competitors are doing it. there are high logistics costs that people forget as well as shipping. This is why cars are made here in the US and Canada.
Its a myth and in economics its called leakage. Meaning money from our GDP is not being reinvested in to boast the bubble but is leaked oversea's. This hurts our economy and as soon as americans stop living in debt due to changes in bankruptacy laws, we will see people not buying any products until the economy improves and the economy wont improve until people start buying again.
In a business environment this is a big problem. Toothpaste is toothpaste but for tech support staff whom have to memorize error codes for each printer model when it fails its a problem.
How do you replace a computer for some important director who has things due NOW! You can not ghost image a new pc for him while his is down if the image works on another desktop. Windows resets teh hal during installation and will bluescreen if you change the hardware suddenly. My windows2k box will blue screen if I change the bios settings from pic to apic and apm to acpi for example.
Its changes like these and software support is why businesses want one model, one printer, and one os, to support. Its also why Microsoft is making a steal here. Which company would you standardize? The one everyone else is using.
But Dell makes very thin profit margins and they are becoming the walmart of the pc industry. Extra assembly lines, database redesigns, and logistical controls, etc, cost big money and would eat into their profits more than a cost savings. Dell does not pay $400 for the same cpu you and I would pay. If anything Intel charges us more so dell can get theirs cheaper. Perhaps close to the same price as the amd chip
I just purchased a nice cs101 book for java 5.0.
Why?
Because my computer science department wants to standardize on java in addition to c++. Why standardize on Java? Because its the most sought after language in business.
Don't believe me? Go to www.monsterboard.com or some job site and look at jobs in your area. Java is the most sought after language with c/c++ second, and perl third.
Java is essential for any big ecommerce servlet. Php is not there yet and neither is c#.net in terms of scalability and maturity.
Java is a success.
I would have told him you had important things to do with your boss and limited time and go refer it to him. Sure he could have written something bad about you but good bosses would cut through the bs and get mad at this guy for fucking your time.
Then its a problem with your boss and him and not you. It seems this other guy needed to be fired and not you.
Also the fact that he was following you around and ordering you shows perhaps he wanted to get rid of you and it was setup politically so he could fire you. I dunno but it sounds like a lack of good management. Something to email your former bosses right away and talk to them and this guy about to clear things up.
But clients are different.
I would surely require them to wear ties and nice clothes if I had your job. How could your clients take you seriously? Also what about the upper guys? Many think IT is just maintance and Indians can do it cheaper. IF you wear the same clothes as teh guys in the other departments then they will look to you as a peer and your guys more seriously.
I am under the impression that dress sells. Also if I were an investor I would like to see the programers more dressed to success. It would show a seriousness for business and customers love appearances.
People are baised. Its built into our human nature
:-)
I think its not taking your job casually like the grandparent mentioned but its based on group conformity at a subconscious level.
People flock with those like them. Geeks do it too with long haired guys who dont shower and live in hidden towers that play wow in their spare time and hack kernel code.
Point of the matter is that customers and the higher ups wear ties and nice clothing as part of a group conformity with their peers as well as to make impressions. We are part of this group at work. We are there to make them happy and to be part of their team. Funny how only IT is getting outsourced but the marketing guys are not. Reason being is they share their values and fit more in their psychological role.
Yes psychology comes into role but that is the nature in a competitive environment.
Image
... its all BS.
In pyschology they study group conformity. Its a very powerfull influence and your beliefs and thought processes. For example during the filming of "planet of the apes", the monkey sat with the monkeys while the oragatangs sat with the orangatangs during lunch off the camera. Wearing a suit shows group confirmity to customers and higher ups that shows your part of the team.
The guys who are directors wear suits look at you differently. Its bad when your boss tries to explain value you guys bring to the organization to them. If your viewed as a maintance person then an Indian can do it cheaper. If you are valuable like the other departments that don't get outsourced then your job stays. Notice teh guys in marketing or manufactoring or not getting outsourced? Why you then?
If you have customers who come in then you need to look professional. It makes a difference and view of compentance and seriousness about your work. If you do not feel your job is serious enough where you have to be part of a valuable team or fit in with the culture then you shouldn't work there. The customers may feel your solutions may not be the best if you dont care what you do.
To me
But my gf works in the jewelry industry and it gives a different perspective. If you are not well dressed you go out of business. Plain and simple and it makes a subconscious decision.