No it does not. I can not use it at work. If I write a program and want to link to a GPL library it then infects my programs forcing me to open source it. I can not sell my product or company either which makes the asset value to 0.
If I was building a Tivo today I'd probably start with a BSD license. It's what Sony did with the PlayStation 4.
Having actually seen that done, both with Linux and FreeBSD (as operating systems in routers), I can tell you a) that I would choose Linux every time and that b) the reason is the license and the lawyers.
For the first year or so you will be concentrating on adding features. Making things you probably benefit from keeping private. With Linux you make these in user space which might occasionally make things more difficult. You will eventually want to add some low level functionality and add it to the kernel.
At the point you start low level work, if you used a BSD licensed kernel, there will be a discussion between lawyers and management and likely you end up keeping your functionality private a) because you can and b) because your competition might use it otherwise. If you have a GPL licensed kernel, you will likely decide to publish and push upstream a) because the license pushes you to and b) because even if your competition uses it you will get the benefit back.
After some time, if you don't contribute upstream, you will find that you have incompatibilities with new software versions and you will stick to a stable version. Eventually you will stop benefiting from the evolution of the upstream software. Long term this is a nightmare for the developers. You lose a tiny bit by being "forced" to contribute back. You actually gain a huge amount back from the community because they continue working on your software.
This has happened often; commercial derivatives of BSD operating systems either fork completely or die. 386BSD, JunOS, OSX, IPSO etc. etc. It's very hard to do long term commercial contributions into a complex BSD environment because technically you are giving away shareholder value with no visible recompense.
Um yeah a competitor won't use it? bahaha. They rip off Linux code all the time which is why the point of lawyers are brought up. Shoot some companies like banks have ANTI GNU policies to protect themselves. Linux can not be used as a simple link to GPL infects the whole program making it viral. Look it up? I am not a troll here. PRoblem is most GNU geeks do not know the difference between GPL and LGPL and assume anyone can use their API. It is not true and it pisses me off.
Sorry the BSD/MIT license is the only free one that is business friendly. One is ideal the other is based on reality. Unless you have big pockets you can not guarantee someone won't steal your work.
Now add in licensing agreements and contracts with vendors and customers and it is a can of worms. Look at Java before Oracle bought it? Xerox were assholes and prevented AWT and SWING to be GPL. IcedTea had missing functionality for years.
Under a BSD/MIT license I can write code and do not have to share it. Investors agree and so the lawyers that this is the best option
Ignorant of the robber barrons of the 19th century which make modern corruption pale in comparison. Rockafeller, Carnagie, Tammy Hall, and others. Oh and since your post is right wing I will say Obama is not a socialist compared to the real communists like Karl Marx and Lennin who came from the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The time we live in today is a lite version of what life was like 130 years earlier on a massive scale.
The is shit in crowd need to have their balls stomped on after being set on fire.
Most OS are designed to run on actual hardware. Virtualization is great for servers where the primary focus is the NIC(s) and not the GPU(s).
ie : Stop trying to expect great performance when you are trying to fit a square cube through a small round hole.
Yes... BUT ONLY for type 2 hypervisors. VirtualBox, VMWare Player/Workstation are both crappy and horrible hypervisors which do not access hardware directly and use buggy drivers on the guest OSes and then use a bugger host wrapper to communicate with the host drivers and OS.
Type 1 hypervisors such as KVM support gaming with full hardware access.Shoot Linus went crazy and got 7 freaking +90 FPS battle going with 7 AMD video cards with full native performance!
So yes with a right hypervisor such as Hyper-V Win10 pro anniversary edition, VMWare ESX, and KVM you can use the OS very close to the bare metal as a type 1 hypervisor goes underneath the os at ring -1 inside the CPU.
KVM is free and so are some tools and Hyper-V is there for cheap if you use Windows Home or free if you have Windows 10 pro to run ReactOS.
I would be so very grateful to the ReactOS community if I could run Office (2007 is fine), Zotero and some version of SolidWorks on it. I don't even dare to install ReactOS to try, as the disappointment would be crushing. Basically, I hope to not be forced to install Windows 10.
I think a VM would be better suited. Unfortunately Virtualbox maybe but it is a shitty type2 hypervisor and so is the now no longer developered VMWare workstation.
I seen a commercial version of KVM on linustechtips where he ran up to 7 virtual machines with full GPU access on a monster Xeon box running Windows 10 guests with some AMD Nano's all running with the native win64 Crimson drivers too!
KVM lacks a gui, but if it supports direct access to the hardware you can run your Windows OS as a guest with all it's drivers. The commerical KVM package had a tool to make an image off a hard disk and turn it into a VM too under Linux.
Perhaps this would be your best bet in a couple years once KVM and more gui tools come out if you want to continue to use your Windows 7 setup (with internet now turned off) as a guest inside a Linux OS host. Ram is cheap and another SSD is cheap these days too so you can keep your existing disk?
And why should they? What is so great about NTFS apart from it being ancient and slow? Even Microsoft was hoping to abandon it in Vista, but the replacement fell victim to the scaling down of the (overly ambitious) objectives.
Gee I don't know. Perhaps people may want to read their data they created from Windows.
I have a raid 0 SSD with samsung pros and a regular samsung pro. Besides benchmarks there is no noticable difference unless you sping up 4 VM's at the same time:-) Even then it is only a few seconds.
It is IOPS and not how many megs per second for the user. Speed in bandwidth is irrelevant as a PC needs lots and lots of read dependent on data from other reads in tiny small batches like reading hte registry, loading daemons/services, etc.
The limitation of SATA is the bandwidth. NVMe can go to 2 gigs so you won't see much difference on consumer pcs. But it would be a nice relief as I pay for hte premium prices of the samsung pros in my rig.
Microsoft wants to be like Google and Apple. Every time Android or iOS gets an update there is a big conference, news stories, people shitting bricks if they don't get it within hours of release... It's a big deal, people look forward to the new features.
It works for Google and Apple, but what people really want from Microsoft is stability and consistency and getting out of the way so they can run their software.
Yeah let's look at Apple? They suck with updates too!
MacOSX Yosemite has lots of wifi problems. Mountain Lion was one of the worst releases and broke Adobe CC their bread and butter of Apple users.
Linux sucks with updates breaking Xorg and NGNIX.
I am starting to become a fan of micro kernels again (I know 1990's stuff), but I think an OS is just too complex to go agile. Android is buggy too and a PC is more mission critical than a phone. Even Firefox had lots of troubles when it went agile due to it not being designed like Chrome to be updated frequently.
Frankly that's an irrelevant comparison. Win2k was around with Windows ME, not Windows XP. Windows XP was what we got after they scrapped ME and revamped Win2k for consumers. With service packs, and a little bit of dedication, the experience of Win2k by the time XP came out was not that different from XP. I used Windows 2000 on basically all of my machines until 2007, and never missed XP even once.
I used both. I bought XP for a new build the day it came out. I had 0 problems for years. I had quality hardware from intel. Yes the install was slower but I liked the built in firewall that was UPNP and I recall directX 8 was in w2k while directx9 was in XP.
There was only a year to a year and a half difference and yes XP and 2K were quite close. The only really bad problem for XP was security. SP 2 fixed many issues but man woe is you if you went on the internet without a firewall!! I mean 0wned in less than 30 seconds!
I think Windows 7 was a much better OS in my opinion as it was more secure, threaded, and was gorgeous with little bugs.
But time moves on. The sun unfortunately is starting to set on 7. Windows 10 could have been awesome too if MS did not bundle spyware and fire their QA team and do rapid releasing. I use 10 now except on my work computer and it is lighter, faster, and much more mobile friendly in power usable and touch support and I do dig Hulu and Netflix on my surface and Office 365, but bugs are annoying as hell.
The reason I wrote that is because Windows 2000 was demanding at RTM and had compatibility issues with programs and drivers. XP had a firewall. XP had a upnp one which didn't require grandma to open ports manually. It had Windows Media player 9 and full directX 9c and IE 6 which was the best browser at the time if you can believe that and was finally supported for consumers that was now stable.
Windows 10 seems Ok on very new hardware like my surface pro 3 and homebuilt system. No bsod except on a AMD Radeon 470 install post anniversary update. Driver fix is up.
But bugs keep packing up. On an exgf laptop which has a shitty amd choose from 2011 I kept 8.1 on it.
If it were not for spyware and a QA team it would be a great OS. If they stop update drama and pushing drivers it would be fine. For now I have the pro version with defer updates enabled so I am on CBB business update channel. It is usable for me this way
Many of us switched to Linux at the turn of the century due to the bugs of dos/win9x. Windows 2000 was meh, XP better, Windows 7 stable and solid! 8.1 light and great and mobile but with terrible UI but still meh with stability. Windows 10 way back to the past.
So they're killing a useful and surprisingly well designed product because it doesn't fit their "philosophy"? What philosophy is that? Write C# for every little scripting job?
That is not true. MS has a video on Powershell DSC which shows IIS using it for administration. You practically need Powershell DSC to do anything automated on IIS farms or Exchange clusters.
Many people replied, most were just silly MS hate...
The suggestion of Wine is not a useful one, running applications like Office and Adobe CC in an emulator (or whatever you want to call it) vs the native OS is not likely to be a great experience.
Why bother, when Windows works fine?
The MS hate here is silly, Windows has issues, but so does Linux, neither are perfect...
You know I was a zealot anti MS guy 15 years ago. Then switched pro MS around Windows 7. Now turning back due to Windows 10.
No Windows did work fine under XP after SP 3 and Windows 7. It does not anymore. Plug in a kindle BAM BSOD. Install AMD Catalyst drivers after last weeks update? BAM need a re-mage to install the driver. Need Powershell DSC... now need to fire a Windows Server 2012 R2 VM for my labs and certification. This is rediculous.
I would say go Apple, but Apple too has had bugs with updates on MacOSX Yosemite. Wifi is a mess there too@! I just want to give up on any OS regardless. But too many older computers have hardware where the drivers are constaly over written with MS ones that break it! Windows Update keeps getting less and less customizable for the pro users. Last night I tried to setup it for Windows 8.1 style of let me decide when to reboot it. Now the option is grayed out and I just have a time to reset it where it will reboot without asking. WTF.
Will I loose my work? Yes. That is unacceptable and Windows 8.1 just gives a warning and prompts to save at least before it reboots for an update.
Windows 10 is awesome in many ways. But without QA, forced updates, and spyware MS dropped the ball as this could have been the next XP and 7.
Hopefully by the time 8.1 (if not 7) is reaching EOL they will have given Nutella his walking papers, if they haven't? Well I don't think there will be a Windows business to worry about really, it'll just be legacy installs while everyone is on Google or Apple OSes.
I'm sorry, I completely disagree.
First, I applaud Nadella; he's doing a great job. I for one am really enjoying watching this shit-show. It's very entertaining watching Windows users suffer.
But this idea that MS will go under due to this is silly. We're already seeing it now: Win10 is a semi-disaster, but it doesn't matter because customers are sticking with it anyway. It really doesn't matter what MS does, as long as Windows mostly works (just like old British cars mostly worked, they only needed to visit the mechanic a few times a month or so, but they could probably be counted on to work about 50% of the time); most customers simply will not abandon the Windows platform, no matter what. Some home customers might, going to either OSX, iOS, Android, or Chomebooks, but enterprise customers absolutely will not. After all, if your business gets its IT support from HP Enterprise, you already have bigger problems with reliability than Windows 10.
I'm just surprised it took MS this long to realize they had free reign to screw over their customers without any repercussions. It's about time. This will be good for their profitability and their stock price.
Windows 10 was almost awesome! It could have been the next XP/7 if MS kept the QA team and didn't spy on everyone. Yes he did awesomeness with Azure, linux interopibility and Visual Studio, but Windows is freaking trash now and is the glue that holds their ecosystem together.
Sorry Hairy but did you read the news earlier this week>?
Windows 7/8 will get the same updates starting in October! So will server too! All cumulative.
What I do is use the Windows 10 pro and setup defer updates. This will delay 3 to 4 months any upgrade besides security. It is the only option by October for stability.
Easy for you to say. Home users rarely are impacted except for a few scattered Windows 10 users with funky old drivers from updates.
What this shitstorm is going to hit is the enterprise. Where a patch can be devestating, but security and being up to date also is a must. Just imagine 100 applications and 70,000 computers all with different needs filled with very old quirky shit taped up where customers still demand we use IE 6 for much of it. We have a hack to get it to work under Windows 7 with Citrix. These patches break TLS 1.0 which is insecure yes, but our clients can not run without it!
Explain how we can move to Linux and use active directory and group policy and security auditing and SCCM to push applications that are all win32 based in such an environment?
If FreeBSD is not an option for your boss then perhaps you could learn how to use it?
After all some of us are stuck administering Windows. That previous story where Windows 7 will get updates pushed that are big and include every patch as cumulative? Windows Server 2016 is going that route!!
Shit I wish systemD was my worse fears if I was in Unix land at work.
Well if the next version of SystemD autoupdates itself where no admin options are available to turn this off where the orderings of boot daemons can randomly change causing a lockup, where only RedHat Enterprise 8 gives you the power to change how it is updated then you may have a point.
FYI Windows Server 2016 is going this route too! Not just Windows desktop where to get security you must apply 100% of previous patches in one big download.
You say that all high and mighty like you haven't managed 80,000 computers who run dozens of combinations of software where our customers demand 99.97% uptime YET DEMAND no ransomware and security for HIPPA and PCI credit processing compliance!
We CANNOT RUN some updates. IE 6 uses TLS 1.,0 and it breaks the clients 17 year old app so that security patch can not work. We use App-v to run the ancient app as one example.
How is this an improvement? We have one guy whose sole job is mostly just testing patches all day long on a VM. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE if any security patch requires patches that break IE 6, java 7, or any other app our customer demands we use.
Oh you say tell the customer to update it? Ha. THey will tell us to screw off and go to a competitor and we signed a contract saying we support x,y, and z and will keep them secure too. Nothing is allowed to break
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No it does not. I can not use it at work. If I write a program and want to link to a GPL library it then infects my programs forcing me to open source it. I can not sell my product or company either which makes the asset value to 0.
How is that fair to me?
If I was building a Tivo today I'd probably start with a BSD license. It's what Sony did with the PlayStation 4.
Having actually seen that done, both with Linux and FreeBSD (as operating systems in routers), I can tell you a) that I would choose Linux every time and that b) the reason is the license and the lawyers.
For the first year or so you will be concentrating on adding features. Making things you probably benefit from keeping private. With Linux you make these in user space which might occasionally make things more difficult. You will eventually want to add some low level functionality and add it to the kernel.
At the point you start low level work, if you used a BSD licensed kernel, there will be a discussion between lawyers and management and likely you end up keeping your functionality private a) because you can and b) because your competition might use it otherwise. If you have a GPL licensed kernel, you will likely decide to publish and push upstream a) because the license pushes you to and b) because even if your competition uses it you will get the benefit back.
After some time, if you don't contribute upstream, you will find that you have incompatibilities with new software versions and you will stick to a stable version. Eventually you will stop benefiting from the evolution of the upstream software. Long term this is a nightmare for the developers. You lose a tiny bit by being "forced" to contribute back. You actually gain a huge amount back from the community because they continue working on your software.
This has happened often; commercial derivatives of BSD operating systems either fork completely or die. 386BSD, JunOS, OSX, IPSO etc. etc. It's very hard to do long term commercial contributions into a complex BSD environment because technically you are giving away shareholder value with no visible recompense.
Um yeah a competitor won't use it? bahaha. They rip off Linux code all the time which is why the point of lawyers are brought up. Shoot some companies like banks have ANTI GNU policies to protect themselves. Linux can not be used as a simple link to GPL infects the whole program making it viral. Look it up? I am not a troll here. PRoblem is most GNU geeks do not know the difference between GPL and LGPL and assume anyone can use their API. It is not true and it pisses me off.
Sorry the BSD/MIT license is the only free one that is business friendly. One is ideal the other is based on reality. Unless you have big pockets you can not guarantee someone won't steal your work.
Now add in licensing agreements and contracts with vendors and customers and it is a can of worms. Look at Java before Oracle bought it? Xerox were assholes and prevented AWT and SWING to be GPL. IcedTea had missing functionality for years.
Under a BSD/MIT license I can write code and do not have to share it. Investors agree and so the lawyers that this is the best option
Ignorant of the robber barrons of the 19th century which make modern corruption pale in comparison. Rockafeller, Carnagie, Tammy Hall, and others. Oh and since your post is right wing I will say Obama is not a socialist compared to the real communists like Karl Marx and Lennin who came from the late 19th and early 20th centuries. The time we live in today is a lite version of what life was like 130 years earlier on a massive scale.
Well we now know what inspired Steve Jobs with the macbooks.
The is shit in crowd need to have their balls stomped on after being set on fire.
Most OS are designed to run on actual hardware. Virtualization is great for servers where the primary focus is the NIC(s) and not the GPU(s).
ie : Stop trying to expect great performance when you are trying to fit a square cube through a small round hole.
Yes ... BUT ONLY for type 2 hypervisors. VirtualBox, VMWare Player/Workstation are both crappy and horrible hypervisors which do not access hardware directly and use buggy drivers on the guest OSes and then use a bugger host wrapper to communicate with the host drivers and OS.
Type 1 hypervisors such as KVM support gaming with full hardware access.Shoot Linus went crazy and got 7 freaking +90 FPS battle going with 7 AMD video cards with full native performance!
So yes with a right hypervisor such as Hyper-V Win10 pro anniversary edition, VMWare ESX, and KVM you can use the OS very close to the bare metal as a type 1 hypervisor goes underneath the os at ring -1 inside the CPU.
KVM is free and so are some tools and Hyper-V is there for cheap if you use Windows Home or free if you have Windows 10 pro to run ReactOS.
I would be so very grateful to the ReactOS community if I could run Office (2007 is fine), Zotero and some version of SolidWorks on it. I don't even dare to install ReactOS to try, as the disappointment would be crushing. Basically, I hope to not be forced to install Windows 10.
I think a VM would be better suited. Unfortunately Virtualbox maybe but it is a shitty type2 hypervisor and so is the now no longer developered VMWare workstation.
I seen a commercial version of KVM on linustechtips where he ran up to 7 virtual machines with full GPU access on a monster Xeon box running Windows 10 guests with some AMD Nano's all running with the native win64 Crimson drivers too!
KVM lacks a gui, but if it supports direct access to the hardware you can run your Windows OS as a guest with all it's drivers. The commerical KVM package had a tool to make an image off a hard disk and turn it into a VM too under Linux.
Perhaps this would be your best bet in a couple years once KVM and more gui tools come out if you want to continue to use your Windows 7 setup (with internet now turned off) as a guest inside a Linux OS host. Ram is cheap and another SSD is cheap these days too so you can keep your existing disk?
And why should they? What is so great about NTFS apart from it being ancient and slow? Even Microsoft was hoping to abandon it in Vista, but the replacement fell victim to the scaling down of the (overly ambitious) objectives.
Gee I don't know. Perhaps people may want to read their data they created from Windows.
But once you go SSD you do not go back.
I have a raid 0 SSD with samsung pros and a regular samsung pro. Besides benchmarks there is no noticable difference unless you sping up 4 VM's at the same time :-) Even then it is only a few seconds.
It is IOPS and not how many megs per second for the user. Speed in bandwidth is irrelevant as a PC needs lots and lots of read dependent on data from other reads in tiny small batches like reading hte registry, loading daemons/services, etc.
The limitation of SATA is the bandwidth. NVMe can go to 2 gigs so you won't see much difference on consumer pcs. But it would be a nice relief as I pay for hte premium prices of the samsung pros in my rig.
Microsoft wants to be like Google and Apple. Every time Android or iOS gets an update there is a big conference, news stories, people shitting bricks if they don't get it within hours of release... It's a big deal, people look forward to the new features.
It works for Google and Apple, but what people really want from Microsoft is stability and consistency and getting out of the way so they can run their software.
Yeah let's look at Apple? They suck with updates too!
MacOSX Yosemite has lots of wifi problems. Mountain Lion was one of the worst releases and broke Adobe CC their bread and butter of Apple users.
Linux sucks with updates breaking Xorg and NGNIX.
I am starting to become a fan of micro kernels again (I know 1990's stuff), but I think an OS is just too complex to go agile. Android is buggy too and a PC is more mission critical than a phone. Even Firefox had lots of troubles when it went agile due to it not being designed like Chrome to be updated frequently.
Frankly that's an irrelevant comparison. Win2k was around with Windows ME, not Windows XP. Windows XP was what we got after they scrapped ME and revamped Win2k for consumers. With service packs, and a little bit of dedication, the experience of Win2k by the time XP came out was not that different from XP. I used Windows 2000 on basically all of my machines until 2007, and never missed XP even once.
I used both. I bought XP for a new build the day it came out. I had 0 problems for years. I had quality hardware from intel. Yes the install was slower but I liked the built in firewall that was UPNP and I recall directX 8 was in w2k while directx9 was in XP.
There was only a year to a year and a half difference and yes XP and 2K were quite close. The only really bad problem for XP was security. SP 2 fixed many issues but man woe is you if you went on the internet without a firewall!! I mean 0wned in less than 30 seconds!
I think Windows 7 was a much better OS in my opinion as it was more secure, threaded, and was gorgeous with little bugs.
But time moves on. The sun unfortunately is starting to set on 7. Windows 10 could have been awesome too if MS did not bundle spyware and fire their QA team and do rapid releasing. I use 10 now except on my work computer and it is lighter, faster, and much more mobile friendly in power usable and touch support and I do dig Hulu and Netflix on my surface and Office 365, but bugs are annoying as hell.
The reason I wrote that is because Windows 2000 was demanding at RTM and had compatibility issues with programs and drivers. XP had a firewall. XP had a upnp one which didn't require grandma to open ports manually. It had Windows Media player 9 and full directX 9c and IE 6 which was the best browser at the time if you can believe that and was finally supported for consumers that was now stable.
Windows 10 seems Ok on very new hardware like my surface pro 3 and homebuilt system. No bsod except on a AMD Radeon 470 install post anniversary update. Driver fix is up.
But bugs keep packing up. On an exgf laptop which has a shitty amd choose from 2011 I kept 8.1 on it.
If it were not for spyware and a QA team it would be a great OS. If they stop update drama and pushing drivers it would be fine. For now I have the pro version with defer updates enabled so I am on CBB business update channel. It is usable for me this way
A blast from the past.
Many of us switched to Linux at the turn of the century due to the bugs of dos/win9x. Windows 2000 was meh, XP better, Windows 7 stable and solid! 8.1 light and great and mobile but with terrible UI but still meh with stability. Windows 10 way back to the past.
I get 1.2 megs a second in Houston Texas. Yes it is bad, but Comcast is my only other option
So they're killing a useful and surprisingly well designed product because it doesn't fit their "philosophy"? What philosophy is that? Write C# for every little scripting job?
That is not true. MS has a video on Powershell DSC which shows IIS using it for administration. You practically need Powershell DSC to do anything automated on IIS farms or Exchange clusters.
Many people replied, most were just silly MS hate...
The suggestion of Wine is not a useful one, running applications like Office and Adobe CC in an emulator (or whatever you want to call it) vs the native OS is not likely to be a great experience.
Why bother, when Windows works fine?
The MS hate here is silly, Windows has issues, but so does Linux, neither are perfect...
You know I was a zealot anti MS guy 15 years ago. Then switched pro MS around Windows 7. Now turning back due to Windows 10.
No Windows did work fine under XP after SP 3 and Windows 7. It does not anymore. Plug in a kindle BAM BSOD. Install AMD Catalyst drivers after last weeks update? BAM need a re-mage to install the driver. Need Powershell DSC ... now need to fire a Windows Server 2012 R2 VM for my labs and certification. This is rediculous.
I would say go Apple, but Apple too has had bugs with updates on MacOSX Yosemite. Wifi is a mess there too@! I just want to give up on any OS regardless. But too many older computers have hardware where the drivers are constaly over written with MS ones that break it! Windows Update keeps getting less and less customizable for the pro users. Last night I tried to setup it for Windows 8.1 style of let me decide when to reboot it. Now the option is grayed out and I just have a time to reset it where it will reboot without asking. WTF.
Will I loose my work? Yes. That is unacceptable and Windows 8.1 just gives a warning and prompts to save at least before it reboots for an update.
Windows 10 is awesome in many ways. But without QA, forced updates, and spyware MS dropped the ball as this could have been the next XP and 7.
Hopefully by the time 8.1 (if not 7) is reaching EOL they will have given Nutella his walking papers, if they haven't? Well I don't think there will be a Windows business to worry about really, it'll just be legacy installs while everyone is on Google or Apple OSes.
I'm sorry, I completely disagree.
First, I applaud Nadella; he's doing a great job. I for one am really enjoying watching this shit-show. It's very entertaining watching Windows users suffer.
But this idea that MS will go under due to this is silly. We're already seeing it now: Win10 is a semi-disaster, but it doesn't matter because customers are sticking with it anyway. It really doesn't matter what MS does, as long as Windows mostly works (just like old British cars mostly worked, they only needed to visit the mechanic a few times a month or so, but they could probably be counted on to work about 50% of the time); most customers simply will not abandon the Windows platform, no matter what. Some home customers might, going to either OSX, iOS, Android, or Chomebooks, but enterprise customers absolutely will not. After all, if your business gets its IT support from HP Enterprise, you already have bigger problems with reliability than Windows 10.
I'm just surprised it took MS this long to realize they had free reign to screw over their customers without any repercussions. It's about time. This will be good for their profitability and their stock price.
Windows 10 was almost awesome! It could have been the next XP/7 if MS kept the QA team and didn't spy on everyone. Yes he did awesomeness with Azure, linux interopibility and Visual Studio, but Windows is freaking trash now and is the glue that holds their ecosystem together.
Sorry Hairy but did you read the news earlier this week>?
Windows 7/8 will get the same updates starting in October! So will server too! All cumulative.
What I do is use the Windows 10 pro and setup defer updates. This will delay 3 to 4 months any upgrade besides security. It is the only option by October for stability.
There games are not compatible with Windows 7 with unreal tournament 99 and ut2004 has issues with Windows 10.
I just bought them on steam and disappointed. Was about to register an account on epic forums and glad I didn't
Funny. I miss Comcast as century Link has a pathetic 1.2meg download speed. It is practically unusable and expensive
Easy for you to say. Home users rarely are impacted except for a few scattered Windows 10 users with funky old drivers from updates.
What this shitstorm is going to hit is the enterprise. Where a patch can be devestating, but security and being up to date also is a must. Just imagine 100 applications and 70,000 computers all with different needs filled with very old quirky shit taped up where customers still demand we use IE 6 for much of it. We have a hack to get it to work under Windows 7 with Citrix. These patches break TLS 1.0 which is insecure yes, but our clients can not run without it!
Explain how we can move to Linux and use active directory and group policy and security auditing and SCCM to push applications that are all win32 based in such an environment?
I read KVM was ported or is being ported to FreeBSD. I wonder how enterprise ready it is?
If FreeBSD is not an option for your boss then perhaps you could learn how to use it?
After all some of us are stuck administering Windows. That previous story where Windows 7 will get updates pushed that are big and include every patch as cumulative? Windows Server 2016 is going that route!!
Shit I wish systemD was my worse fears if I was in Unix land at work.
Well if the next version of SystemD autoupdates itself where no admin options are available to turn this off where the orderings of boot daemons can randomly change causing a lockup, where only RedHat Enterprise 8 gives you the power to change how it is updated then you may have a point.
FYI Windows Server 2016 is going this route too! Not just Windows desktop where to get security you must apply 100% of previous patches in one big download.
It worked so well for Firefox after all.
You say that all high and mighty like you haven't managed 80,000 computers who run dozens of combinations of software where our customers demand 99.97% uptime YET DEMAND no ransomware and security for HIPPA and PCI credit processing compliance!
We CANNOT RUN some updates. IE 6 uses TLS 1.,0 and it breaks the clients 17 year old app so that security patch can not work. We use App-v to run the ancient app as one example.
How is this an improvement? We have one guy whose sole job is mostly just testing patches all day long on a VM. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE if any security patch requires patches that break IE 6, java 7, or any other app our customer demands we use.
Oh you say tell the customer to update it? Ha. THey will tell us to screw off and go to a competitor and we signed a contract saying we support x,y, and z and will keep them secure too. Nothing is allowed to break