I can't see how this is different than the uproar over Ebonics from a few years ago.
Okay. This is FUD. Not that there was any shortage of FUD surrounding this issue. The idea was that there was a group of people that had an extremely poor grasp of the language. They spoke in a somewhat mutually common manner. There was little funding in areas where these english shortcomings were found. At the same time, there were funding programs for teaching english as a second language to students. By declaring Ebonics a language, needed funding could be made available. I don't know if there were people that opposed the idea, or if people just didn't get it, but this is the point when all hell, or at least a very sizeable portion, broke loose.
(With apologies - I didn't want to get into extended characters.)
Yes, but would we have cared if you said the above? I'm comfortable with leetspeek. (We used to call them kewl d00dz - with sarcasm.) I still don't like it. I use punctuation when I type. Even in an instant messenger application. I don't whip out the grammar checker or spell checker when I bang something out on Slashdot. I also don't take a great deal of care when using instant messaging applications. We need children that have the ability to quickly type a somewhat coherent memo. Think about it. Most of the IM shortcuts don't translate into the sort of language you'd want in a paper anyhow. OMG? LOL? ROFLMAO? ASL? BRB?
A human being's ability to survive is based on their ability to function in their environment.
So true. While the slashdot readership is most often amused by those whose environmental declivity is technology, it's important that these children learn to function in as many environments as possible. In fact, children need that flexibility even more than adults. They have to work their way up in life. I probably wouldn't have too much trouble finding a job in my field, even if I submitted a résumé of only passable quality. However, a younger person, with no experience, no references, and no connections would likely find a weak résumé a hinderance. They don't need acceptance from their peer group, they need acceptance from their elders at that point, because the person hiring a new, green worker is usually older.
My position is that while leetspeak may have its place, it isn't in the classroom.
I would say 75% of school is learning to mitigate the detriment you would otherwise cause society.
That's good. Quite good. I think I might quote you on that one.
I actually thought of something similar in a quasi-serious manner. We were dropping quarter million dollar bombs on Afghan villages. Why don't we just drop Chevy Trackers? After all, we are worried about an area with a very poor economy. Put a few cars there, and we have an empowered populous. Want to use it as a weapon? Fly higher and disable the parachute. Worried about empowering the enemy? Paint them lime green. Wire a GPS to the damned thing. Hook it to the ECU, have the manufacturer program the computer so no GPS lock, no start. Add a remote kill switch (with or without capital K) and transmitter. You now know where all the Trackers you dropped are. (TrackerTracker hmm...) Al Queda won't want to use it because they can't trust it. If they do, you know what they're up to. The villagers now have some reliable transportation that makes sense for their region. We spend maybe $18k per weapon, because the US can never get a break on price. We still save a bundle.
I'm pretty happy with Mozilla Mail. It works quite well, and allows me to relax a little in Win32 when I'm opening emails. That having been said, MSIE ignores the setting for default email client in the Internet Preferences control panel, launching Outlook Express. Odd behavior, when you consider that MSIE will open the default browser (in my case, Mozilla) when a page attempts to open a new window.
While the gravel would work, I'd like to encourage you to spray brake fluid out the back of your moving car. I think it would only do good for you...
On another note, ever notice how much oil residue is stuck to the back of smoking beaters? You'd think that an exhaust pipe firing oily air out the back of the car wouldn't stick to the car itself. Moving vehicles have a low pressure area behind them, so air tends to sit behind the car and swirl around. Wagons and hatchbacks are worst, but many sedans do this as well. Same goes for vans and suvs. Next time you're on the highway in the rain, look at cars going the other way and you'll be able to see the mist of rain water swirling about behind the car.
I was told two also. Biology never interested me the way electronics did, so I never studied it outside of school. Of course, electronics in school went only slightly beyond connecting a light bulb to a D-cell. Really, I don't know why we didn't stop in 5th grade and go straight to college. Would have saved a great deal of time and money.
I can do this with my Handspring Treo 300. I can get an SMS on the phone with a short description of the problem, login using ptelnet, fix the issue, and log back out. I can take my time because I'm billed on bytes, not minutes. It's a good phone too.
I wasn't so sure that movies would be a good idea. I think the DVD thing may still be helpful. Movies tend to have a lot of characters. People on the phone. People on TV. People on the radio. I'm thinking a stand-up comedy DVD or a documentary DVD would be more useful.
Before you pre-announce, create a device that can transmit your discovery. Perhaps a cellular-enabled computer in a rugged enclosure. Bury it. Not just anywhere, mind you. Find a place where erosion is predictable. The marshlands of Louisiana come to mind, but drilling into an iceburg would work well too. The device should be designed to float to the surface and transmit the data when it is freed.
Another option is to release some silly Outlook trojan that has the data encoded within. Set it to go active when the time on time.windows.com matches some pre-set time. (This avoids incorrectly set clocks, and is the sort of network query one would expect from a windows box.)
Get a programmer with a wireless phone manufacturer on your side. Hide the code in the firmware for a wireless phone. The phone will transmit your data to both the owner and anyone else in the phone book. To avoid an overload, the phone should wait a unique time, perhaps based on a number derived from the owner's calling habits.
Hide it in a mass-produced media product. Many films and albums have used a password based web component for extra hype. (Swordfish and Wu-Tang Forever come to mind) Why can't the next Brittney CD have an ECD with several hidden features, each unlocked with a password... Including your little innovation.
I sell electronics for a living. I suspect the number of consumers put off by copy protection will increase as use of DVD-video recorders spreads. Most of the people I talk to want the DVD recorder so they can copy all of their store-bought VHS titles to a more permanent medium. Many of these people have copied music freely in the past, and expect to do the same with their movies. Most react poorly when they learn the recorder is designed to not allow those copies.
It's not just you. It's like any other product cycle. Look at most people's first VCR. Built like a tank, right? How about most computers from the early 80's? You see, when something comes to market as a premium product, it tends to be made a bit better to appeal to that kind of customer. The thinking is that if the technology is going to make something cost $2000, that same buyer would probably spend $2300 and get one made really well. You can see this right now. Go into an electronics store. Look at a standard DVD player. The kind you connect to a TV. Look how it's made. Lift it up - how heavy does it feel? Look at the remote and the connectors on the back. Does that feel like quality? Now do the same thing with a DVD recorder (also, the video sort, not the PC sort).
One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is the increased convergence happening in cars. It used to be that the car manufacturers would create a chassis, add a wiper assembly, add an engine, add a door, a door lock, a transmission, ad nauseum. Each would be a more-or-less separate system, and no system would share information with another system. I'm starting to see much of this change. We have cars now that turn on the rear wiper when the wipers are on and the car is in reverse. We have cars that lock the doors when a certain speed is exceeded. Power windows detect the closing and opening of the door and adjust to allow easier closing and a better seal. Some cars can tell whose key is in the ignition, and adjust the seat to accomidate the current driver. It's only a matter of time before the same system also manages radio presets and adaptive transmission shift profiles. When this sort of environment becomes more common in cars, there will be much more hacking to be done.:)
I'm not sure what you used as a search term on Google. I'd really like to see what you're talking about, because my knowledge of the Passkey system, at least as implemented by GM, makes what you claim seem inaccurate. The key contains a resistor. The ECM checks the value of the resistor before enabling the ignition. If the value is within a (fairly liberal) tolerance, ignition is enabled. If not, the ignition system is disabled, and locked for 30 minutes. IIRC, that means that best case scenario is that you'll start the car immediately, and worst case is that it will take you (number of keys)*30min to start the car. IIRC that's something like six hours.
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Short version: sort of.
Long version:
So you want to start a newsgroup?
What is efficiency but applied lazyness?
Is that counting Shakey?
Okay. This is FUD. Not that there was any shortage of FUD surrounding this issue. The idea was that there was a group of people that had an extremely poor grasp of the language. They spoke in a somewhat mutually common manner. There was little funding in areas where these english shortcomings were found. At the same time, there were funding programs for teaching english as a second language to students. By declaring Ebonics a language, needed funding could be made available.
I don't know if there were people that opposed the idea, or if people just didn't get it, but this is the point when all hell, or at least a very sizeable portion, broke loose.
(With apologies - I didn't want to get into extended characters.)
Yes, but would we have cared if you said the above? I'm comfortable with leetspeek. (We used to call them kewl d00dz - with sarcasm.) I still don't like it. I use punctuation when I type. Even in an instant messenger application. I don't whip out the grammar checker or spell checker when I bang something out on Slashdot. I also don't take a great deal of care when using instant messaging applications. We need children that have the ability to quickly type a somewhat coherent memo. Think about it. Most of the IM shortcuts don't translate into the sort of language you'd want in a paper anyhow. OMG? LOL? ROFLMAO? ASL? BRB?
So true. While the slashdot readership is most often amused by those whose environmental declivity is technology, it's important that these children learn to function in as many environments as possible. In fact, children need that flexibility even more than adults. They have to work their way up in life. I probably wouldn't have too much trouble finding a job in my field, even if I submitted a résumé of only passable quality. However, a younger person, with no experience, no references, and no connections would likely find a weak résumé a hinderance. They don't need acceptance from their peer group, they need acceptance from their elders at that point, because the person hiring a new, green worker is usually older.
My position is that while leetspeak may have its place, it isn't in the classroom.
That's good. Quite good. I think I might quote you on that one.
Take it greasy.
Smell ya later was never very popular, and is nearly dead.
Apple.
What do you mean? A diesel or gasoline Greyhound?
I actually thought of something similar in a quasi-serious manner. We were dropping quarter million dollar bombs on Afghan villages. Why don't we just drop Chevy Trackers? After all, we are worried about an area with a very poor economy. Put a few cars there, and we have an empowered populous. Want to use it as a weapon? Fly higher and disable the parachute. Worried about empowering the enemy? Paint them lime green. Wire a GPS to the damned thing. Hook it to the ECU, have the manufacturer program the computer so no GPS lock, no start. Add a remote kill switch (with or without capital K) and transmitter. You now know where all the Trackers you dropped are. (TrackerTracker hmm...) Al Queda won't want to use it because they can't trust it. If they do, you know what they're up to. The villagers now have some reliable transportation that makes sense for their region. We spend maybe $18k per weapon, because the US can never get a break on price. We still save a bundle.
I'm pretty happy with Mozilla Mail. It works quite well, and allows me to relax a little in Win32 when I'm opening emails. That having been said, MSIE ignores the setting for default email client in the Internet Preferences control panel, launching Outlook Express. Odd behavior, when you consider that MSIE will open the default browser (in my case, Mozilla) when a page attempts to open a new window.
While the gravel would work, I'd like to encourage you to spray brake fluid out the back of your moving car. I think it would only do good for you...
On another note, ever notice how much oil residue is stuck to the back of smoking beaters? You'd think that an exhaust pipe firing oily air out the back of the car wouldn't stick to the car itself. Moving vehicles have a low pressure area behind them, so air tends to sit behind the car and swirl around. Wagons and hatchbacks are worst, but many sedans do this as well. Same goes for vans and suvs. Next time you're on the highway in the rain, look at cars going the other way and you'll be able to see the mist of rain water swirling about behind the car.
>Tomorow is the day that I'll try to drop a correctly packed drive from a paraglider....
Seriously? I gotta hear how that pans out!
I read the email... I was making a suggestion. I'd not want the slashdot effect in my inbox.
I'll send the email.
I would love to try it! If you can put it somewhere we can get at, I'd appreciate it.
I was told two also. Biology never interested me the way electronics did, so I never studied it outside of school. Of course, electronics in school went only slightly beyond connecting a light bulb to a D-cell. Really, I don't know why we didn't stop in 5th grade and go straight to college. Would have saved a great deal of time and money.
I can do this with my Handspring Treo 300. I can get an SMS on the phone with a short description of the problem, login using ptelnet, fix the issue, and log back out. I can take my time because I'm billed on bytes, not minutes. It's a good phone too.
I wasn't so sure that movies would be a good idea. I think the DVD thing may still be helpful. Movies tend to have a lot of characters. People on the phone. People on TV. People on the radio. I'm thinking a stand-up comedy DVD or a documentary DVD would be more useful.
Before you pre-announce, create a device that can transmit your discovery. Perhaps a cellular-enabled computer in a rugged enclosure. Bury it. Not just anywhere, mind you. Find a place where erosion is predictable. The marshlands of Louisiana come to mind, but drilling into an iceburg would work well too. The device should be designed to float to the surface and transmit the data when it is freed.
Another option is to release some silly Outlook trojan that has the data encoded within. Set it to go active when the time on time.windows.com matches some pre-set time. (This avoids incorrectly set clocks, and is the sort of network query one would expect from a windows box.)
Get a programmer with a wireless phone manufacturer on your side. Hide the code in the firmware for a wireless phone. The phone will transmit your data to both the owner and anyone else in the phone book. To avoid an overload, the phone should wait a unique time, perhaps based on a number derived from the owner's calling habits.
Hide it in a mass-produced media product. Many films and albums have used a password based web component for extra hype. (Swordfish and Wu-Tang Forever come to mind) Why can't the next Brittney CD have an ECD with several hidden features, each unlocked with a password... Including your little innovation.
Have Steve Jobs announce it at MacWorld. Oh wait nevermind.
I sell electronics for a living. I suspect the number of consumers put off by copy protection will increase as use of DVD-video recorders spreads. Most of the people I talk to want the DVD recorder so they can copy all of their store-bought VHS titles to a more permanent medium. Many of these people have copied music freely in the past, and expect to do the same with their movies. Most react poorly when they learn the recorder is designed to not allow those copies.
IANAL, but I would think that they could sue you for inhibiting the function of their DRM tech, and in turn violating the DMCA.
Can't. MSFT owns the universe.
It's not just you. It's like any other product cycle. Look at most people's first VCR. Built like a tank, right? How about most computers from the early 80's? You see, when something comes to market as a premium product, it tends to be made a bit better to appeal to that kind of customer. The thinking is that if the technology is going to make something cost $2000, that same buyer would probably spend $2300 and get one made really well. You can see this right now. Go into an electronics store. Look at a standard DVD player. The kind you connect to a TV. Look how it's made. Lift it up - how heavy does it feel? Look at the remote and the connectors on the back. Does that feel like quality? Now do the same thing with a DVD recorder (also, the video sort, not the PC sort).
One thing I haven't seen mentioned here is the increased convergence happening in cars. It used to be that the car manufacturers would create a chassis, add a wiper assembly, add an engine, add a door, a door lock, a transmission, ad nauseum. Each would be a more-or-less separate system, and no system would share information with another system. I'm starting to see much of this change. We have cars now that turn on the rear wiper when the wipers are on and the car is in reverse. We have cars that lock the doors when a certain speed is exceeded. Power windows detect the closing and opening of the door and adjust to allow easier closing and a better seal. Some cars can tell whose key is in the ignition, and adjust the seat to accomidate the current driver. It's only a matter of time before the same system also manages radio presets and adaptive transmission shift profiles. When this sort of environment becomes more common in cars, there will be much more hacking to be done. :)
I'm not sure what you used as a search term on Google. I'd really like to see what you're talking about, because my knowledge of the Passkey system, at least as implemented by GM, makes what you claim seem inaccurate. The key contains a resistor. The ECM checks the value of the resistor before enabling the ignition. If the value is within a (fairly liberal) tolerance, ignition is enabled. If not, the ignition system is disabled, and locked for 30 minutes. IIRC, that means that best case scenario is that you'll start the car immediately, and worst case is that it will take you (number of keys)*30min to start the car. IIRC that's something like six hours.
Yes. Camella is a chicken.