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SanLouBlues writes "Autoweek has this article about a group of guys in Arizona who will drop your car out of a cargo jet for $15k. Parachutes for the car are optional. Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside. More pictures here and here)"

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  1. So, let me get this straight by Jacer · · Score: 2

    I'M going to pay THEM $15k to achieve THEIR goal?

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    1. Re:So, let me get this straight by sixdotoh · · Score: 1

      yeah, much agreed, why can't they be happy with donations. nonetheless, major cool. beats bungie jumping bigtime. something awesome and appealing to this . . . mmm, cars. in the sky.

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    2. Re:So, let me get this straight by superpeach · · Score: 1

      well, $15,000 + give them a car :) Or, will they just take any car you point at?

    3. Re:So, let me get this straight by Yorrike · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd pay them $15K to drop a Greyhound bus packed with 40 people I don't like. Sounds like a great idea.

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    4. Re:So, let me get this straight by sixdotoh · · Score: 1

      don't you gotta love their goal? its people like this who make the humanity interesting.

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    5. Re:So, let me get this straight by Black+Copter+Control · · Score: 1
      A greyhound would cost a good deal more than $15k. Even a used and decrepit Greyhound would probably cost more than that (not to mention the cleanup after it hit). Buying insurance for a 'live' greyhound on a jump like that with parachutes would also probably cost about the same (if not more).

      The $15K is for dropping a car from the cargo plane they already have access to. A Greyhound would (as the article mentioned) require a C5. I have no idea what it would cost to rent a C5, and I don't have the money to find out.

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    6. Re:So, let me get this straight by laserjet · · Score: 2

      Acutally I found an old city bus (greyhound size) for $3900. A 1967 I believe, and it still ran and was in pretty good shape for it's age. There are bound to be plenty of pretty old buses that are past there service life, but have a future either as a motorhome conversion or as "Pete The Skydiving Bus".

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    7. Re:So, let me get this straight by EvanED · · Score: 2

      >>beats bungie jumping bigtime

      Reminds me of a commercial where they tied a bungee cord to a car and a bridge (New River's Gorge? <- Wild guess) and made the car bungee jump. That was a LONG time ago.

    8. Re:So, let me get this straight by RapaNui · · Score: 1

      Mmm. A bus with forty _lawyers_ on board (preferably entertainment industry lawyers).

      Now _that_ would be a _good start_.....

    9. Re:So, let me get this straight by HerringFlavoredFowl · · Score: 2

      Mmm ... A bus of forty microsoft employees ... ... I better stop here before I get branded a terrorist and sent to cuba.

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    10. Re:So, let me get this straight by sharkey · · Score: 2

      I'M going to pay THEM $15k to achieve THEIR goal?

      Let's see, N'Sync, The Backstreet Boyz, Britney, Shakira, how many is that? $15,000 sounds like a small price to pay for such a humanitarian service.

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    11. Re:So, let me get this straight by JWCoder · · Score: 0

      Do we get to duct-tape the door shut?

  2. Remember: by Marijuana+al-Shehi · · Score: 1

    If you get going too fast, you can always use the air brake!

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  3. anyone have an old beat up car I could borrow? by Metaldsa · · Score: 2, Funny

    I swear I will return it in good condition :)

    1. Re:anyone have an old beat up car I could borrow? by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 1

      I assume that by "good" you mean "so horribly deformed,twisted and crushed you wont be able to remember it's orginial" In that case,sure....

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  4. Yes, but can they aim? by CBNobi · · Score: 3, Funny

    "There's no real science to it--it's hit or miss," says skydiver/skydriver Greg Gasson

    I don't want to know what would happen if they hit, let alone if they miss. Hit what? Where?

    (Although, I think this would make a neat little Junkyard Wars-esque competition.. or not)

    1. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by littlerubberfeet · · Score: 2

      This coing from a guy who has done 16. 16 handoff jumps. what a way to die. He must have a deathwish.

      As for the greyhound. The 20,000 pound chutes the army has aren't strong enough for a greyhound. any info on parachut clusters big enough for a greyhound. Also, they need a C5 to drop the bus from. any civilian operators out there?

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    2. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by jon787 · · Score: 1

      Civilian Operators? Heck if you know the right people you could borrow one from the military.

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    3. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by AntiNorm · · Score: 3, Funny

      any info on parachut clusters big enough for a greyhound

      You mean like a Beowulf Cluster of parachutes? :P

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    4. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by fjordboy · · Score: 2

      ummm..if they can drop tanks and hummers, they can surely drop an empty greyhound.

    5. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by polin8 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Keanu: if the bus drops below 50 mph ...

      well, on the bright side, we won't be around long enough to worry about the bomb.

    6. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by Vess+V. · · Score: 1

      Not empty -- the article mentioned the bus being full of 40 skydivers.

    7. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by lommer · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you read the article, you will find that they don't plan to parachute the bus. It will just fall and smash to pieces, after all of the skydivers have bailed out the doors/windows and used their chutes as normal.

      As far as i'm concerned, that would would be dope!

    8. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by iamblades · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but you'd have to fill a greyhound with alot more than 40 people to make it as heavy as even a medium tank.

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    9. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 2, Funny

      As far as i'm concerned, that would would be dope!

      Except for the nerdy guy they locked in the bathroom !!!

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    10. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by CvD · · Score: 1

      I bet these people probably have one. But like other posters have said, they won't be attaching a parachute to this one. :-)

      Cheers,

      Costyn. (220 jumps)

    11. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by RealUlli · · Score: 1
      As for the greyhound. The 20,000 pound chutes the army has aren't strong enough for a greyhound. any info on parachut clusters big enough for a greyhound. Also, they need a C5 to drop the bus from. any civilian operators out there?

      Just charter a An-225

      The article is slightly outdated, the investors apparently went ahead the reactivated the plane. They used it to fly some hundred tons of food to Afghanistan. While loading at Munich Airport it was photographed by a friend of mine... :-)

      Regards, Ulli

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    12. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by Phant84 · · Score: 1

      I would imagine that they would cut the roof off the bus like they did the cars.

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    13. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by sixdotoh · · Score: 1

      cut the roof off? nahhh. besides who ever heard of a convertable greyhound. i think that other guy had it right. on dope. wel, maybe not . . .

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    14. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by Phant84 · · Score: 1

      hmmm, if you think of it as a convertable greyhound, that doesnt sound that bad. sounds kinda cool really. but i bet it would be a bitch to get all the water out after a good rain.

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    15. Re:Yes, but can they aim? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The article also mentioned the 40 skydivers jumping out of the bus on the way down. So the bus would be empty when the bus's parachutes deployed. Although I don't recall anything about the bus having parachutes in the first place...

  5. jet? We don't need no stinkin' jet by frovingslosh · · Score: 2
    drop your car out of a cargo jet

    Here I was all excited about getting dropped out of a jet and I see the plane has props.

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    1. Re:jet? We don't need no stinkin' jet by Bonker · · Score: 2

      Chances are that it's a turboprop jet. It's still a jet engine, but rather than using the jet itself to generate thrust, the jet turns rotors instead.

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    2. Re:jet? We don't need no stinkin' jet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      known in the skydiving world, (and by most aviators), as a turbine.

    3. Re:jet? We don't need no stinkin' jet by undercanopy · · Score: 1

      Chances are that it's a turboprop jet. It's still a jet engine, but rather than using the jet itself to generate thrust, the jet turns rotors instead.

      No, the plane in the picture is a Skyvan, which is twin-turbine prop-driven aircraft.

      They WANT to enlist a C5A military transport jet to drop the bus out of. MUCH bigger plane. Also much more expensive to run. Hence the dream.

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  6. Geranamo!!! by Ice_Hole · · Score: 1

    Ker splat

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  7. best online build-to-order pc dealers?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Forgive the off-topic post, but I don't know where else to go to answer this question. Moderators, please don't moderate down immediately.

    Can somebody recommend a good online PC seller that they've good experience with? I'm looking for a top-end athlon xp system, and would like to buy it online and be able to customize everything on it.

    Thanks in advance, and please forgive the off-topic post, but /. is the one place i know where tons of people know the answer to my question.

    1. Re:best online build-to-order pc dealers?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second this post. Moderators: please wait a while before you mod down parent. I am sure a lot of us here will find this information very useful.

    2. Re:best online build-to-order pc dealers?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pcnut.com

      Great store, great prices, nothing but good experiences with him.

    3. Re:best online build-to-order pc dealers?? by Cyno01 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      alienware is great, you can customize everything, plus some sweet lookin cases, they are a tad pricey, but you dont have to put up w/ that kid from dell, http://alienware.com/

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    4. Re:best online build-to-order pc dealers?? by chamenos · · Score: 1

      i haven't ordered computer related stuff online before cos they're brick and mortar shops where i live, but a lot of people seem to like newegg.

    5. Re:best online build-to-order pc dealers?? by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I recommend Wintergreen Systems and not just because I used to work for them :-)

      The last 5 PCs I have built for myself have been with their parts.

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    6. Re:best online build-to-order pc dealers?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thanks a lot for the response. i really appreciate it, but am sorry that the asshole moderators decided to mod you down.

    7. Re:best online build-to-order pc dealers?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      sorry for the asshole moderators, but i do really appreciate the response. Wintergreen looks like a cool place to build your own...

      cheers...

  8. 40 Lawyers? by thepoolguy · · Score: 0, Troll

    It's a start... :-)

    1. Re:40 Lawyers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      awww.....i bet you were hoping a lame joke about lawyers would get you karma from some moderator with a bad sense of humour huh?

    2. Re:40 Lawyers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you a lawyer, or what?!?!

    3. Re:40 Lawyers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      40 Lawyers with last names ending with stein, berg, and witz.

    4. Re:40 Lawyers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are there any others?

  9. So... by Phexro · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you have an 802.11b-equipped laptop in the car on your way down, are you then warskydriving?

    1. Re:So... by Error-404NotFound · · Score: 0

      If you have an 802.11b-equipped laptop in the car on your way down, are you then warskydriving?

      No, your just wasting money, i doubt many networks stetch that far into the sky... and how would you mark them?

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    2. Re:So... by Cyno01 · · Score: 2

      you mark the networks with your splattered blood when you hit the ground

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    3. Re:So... by gooberguy · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...how would you mark them?

      With the huge crater from your car, silly!

      D/\ Gooberguy

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    4. Re:So... by salmo · · Score: 2

      Mod this guy +1 Funny. He just made my evening.

      People take themselves entirely too seriously.

    5. Re:So... by Ogerman · · Score: 5, Funny

      I suppose.. but how could you leave your mark to let all the other warskydrivers know where you found the good networks.. hmm.. Ah yes.. WarCratering!

    6. Re:So... by Salsaman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe. But imagine if you dropped several cars simultaneously, you could form a Beowulf cluster on the way down.

    7. Re:So... by *xpenguin* · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Too bad you'd get high packet loss when the car was right side up.

    8. Re:So... by dublin · · Score: 2, Funny
      You mean like this old Army jumper's song? (The last verse (which may hold some kind of record for musically portrayed gore) stayed with me from one reading when I was maybe 9 or 10, which has been thirty years now... It wasn't hard to find on the web.)

      Blood on the Risers
      Military Version

      to the tune of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic"

      "Is everybody happy?" cried the Sergeant, looking up.
      Our hero feebly answered "yes" and then they stood him up.
      He leaped right out into the blast, his static line unhooked.
      He ain't gonna jump no more.

      Chorus:

      Gory, Gory, what a helluva way to die,
      Gory, gory, what a helluva way to die
      Gory, gory what a helluva way to die
      He ain't going to jump no more.

      He counted long, he counted loud, he waited for the shock
      He felt the wind, he felt the clouds, he felt the awful drop;
      He jerked his cord, the silk spilled out and wrapped around his legs.
      He ain't gonna jump no more.

      Chorus

      The risers wrapped around his neck, connectors cracked his dome
      The lines were snarled and tied in knots around his skinny bones
      The canopy became his shroud, he hurtled to the ground
      He ain't gonna jump no more.

      Chorus

      The days he'd lived and loved and laughed kept running through his mind
      He thought about the girl below, the one he'd left behind
      He thought about the medico's and wondered what they'd find
      He ain't gonna jump no more.

      Chorus

      The ambulance was on the spot, the jeeps were running wild;
      The medics jumped and screamed with glee, they rolled their sleeves and smiled
      For it had been a week or more since last a chute had failed
      He ain't gonna jump no more.

      Chorus

      He hit the ground,the sound was splat, his blood went spurting high;
      His comrades then were heard to say "A helluva way to die";
      He lay there rolling 'round in the welter of his gore.
      He ain't gonna jump no more.

      Chorus

      There was blood upon the risers
      There were brains upon the chute
      Intestines were a dangling from this paratrooper's boots.
      They picked him up, still in his chute, and poured him from his boots.
      He ain't gonna jump no more!

      Chorus
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  10. wtf by dextr0us · · Score: 1

    how do they expect to get out of the damn bus? oh well... thats what life insurance is for right?

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    1. Re:wtf by jcoy42 · · Score: 2

      I just figured they were going to fill the bus will members of the MPAA and RIAA.

      Why else would it be on slashdot?

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    2. Re:wtf by Suppafly · · Score: 2

      how do they expect to get out of the damn bus?

      Assuming its like the time they dropped the car out, they will just cut the roof off.. although I personally think it would be cooler if they all exited the folding door in the front..

    3. Re:wtf by dextr0us · · Score: 1

      see thats what i'm assuming, but you never know....

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    4. Re:wtf by undercanopy · · Score: 1

      Assuming its like the time they dropped the car out, they will just cut the roof off.. although I personally think it would be cooler if they all exited the folding door in the front..

      It would be cooler. However, try getting 40 people out of a bus who are all decked out in skydiving equipment (rigs, helmets, etc), from a bus that's rockin & rolling in the sky in less than a minute. I would not want to be near the back.

      Plus, if they got even a mild spin going, they'd still be in the bus when it hit the ground.... centrifugal forces can really ruin your day.

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  11. Sounds interesting... by Error-404NotFound · · Score: 2, Funny

    Parachutes for the car are optional. Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside.

    Think that would be enough to fit all the RIAA executives inside of? i'm not sure..

    Seriously though why spend $15k to drop a car out of a plane when you can do the next best thing, throw wireless webcams off of tall buildings! It's fun for everyone!

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    1. Re:Sounds interesting... by Jeremi · · Score: 2
      Seriously though why spend $15k to drop a car out of a plane when you can do the next best thing, throw wireless webcams off of tall buildings!


      That does sound like fun.... got any links to videos produced that way?


      I think you would want some sort of tail assembly (to stabilize the camera on its way down) and of course the camera would need to be battery-powered... but in the end you would have a nice 3D zoom video along with your small camera shards...

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    2. Re:Sounds interesting... by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      I launched a wireless camera on a tethered weather balloon once. Pretty cool pics.

      My future plans are to take this a step further than dropping the cam or floating it in the blimp, I'm going to rather launch the camera out of a potato cannon. Should be interesting.

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    3. Re:Sounds interesting... by CvD · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Check out the movie G they made where they dropped a camera from 30,000 ft. You can probably find the movie itself at: ftp://ftp.skydivingmovies.com

      Cheers,

      Costyn. (220 jumps)

  12. Ooo Ooo! I've got an idea! by Nethergoat · · Score: 1

    Oh my gosh that's just plain hardcore. =) Since I go to ASU, I can't help but think of combining this with an older tradition...the stuffing of as many college students as possible into a VW Beetle. A mass of limbs + clown car = newest fad? Now's the time that we poor college students seek sponsorship...

  13. A new use for /. ! by Zetta+Matrix · · Score: 1

    Of course, this is the perfect place to advertise these 40 open positions!!!!

    Before it was Ask Slashdot. Now it's Slashdot Recruiting Service.... :)

  14. wow by CableModemSniper · · Score: 1

    I love slashdot. watch this.

    1. Imagine a beowulf cluster of falling cars
    2. ???
    3. Profit!

    Look! Two old jokes in one. But seriously, aren't they afraid they are gonna hit some poor hiker strolling thru the desert? I mean it's kind of hard to get out of the way of a 140MPH Honda Civic. And what if they do drop that bus...squish.

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    1. Re:wow by 1nsane0ne · · Score: 1

      I take it you don't live in Arizona, besides the two major cities it's hot, flat (where they're dropping cars) hot, middle of nowhere, did i mention hot? and a pain in the ass to get to most remote areas. Hell we were on Lake Havasu two weeks ago and it was 135 on the water. Now imagine the middle of the desert where they're dropping cars, not exactly prime hiking territory. But hey at least it's a dry heat. Yeah so is a sauna.

  15. Incredible.... by goldspider · · Score: 2
    "Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside."

    If I hadn't read it on Slashdot, I never would have thought it possible to so willingly invite litigation upon oneself.

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    1. Re:Incredible.... by oO0OoO0Oo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      FUNNY! Mod parent up!

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    2. Re:Incredible.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Before they'd let me jump in the US, I had to sign a 2-page waiver, and initial each paragraph. It basically said that I know skydiving is dangerous and my next-of-kin won't sue. Even in the UK, where we (used to?) have far fewer ambulance-chasing lawyers, I had to sign something similar.

  16. Save yourself 15K... by CommieLib · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    And donate your car instead...please...

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    1. Re:Save yourself 15K... by oyenstikker · · Score: 3, Funny

      Noone would want my car. ('89 Dodge Colt with 218,000 miles.) If this car gets me through 2 more years of college and these guys are still around, I think it would be a great way to pay my last respects to my baby.

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    2. Re:Save yourself 15K... by laserjet · · Score: 2

      You know, that's what I was thinking. I have a car that I have dealt with for so long, and it has finally died. I replaced the head gasket a year ago, and now the repairs I have neglected to do (front axle, water pump, clutch, suspension, CV joints, and wheel bearings) cost much more than the value of the car.

      I think I would be doing everyone a favor by dropping it out of the sky and letting it fall to it's death. Good bye, 1983 Mazda 626 - it's time to be gzipped.

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    3. Re:Save yourself 15K... by klaviman · · Score: 1

      um, you could pay your last respects, but $15K is a pretty expensive payment...

    4. Re:Save yourself 15K... by edremy · · Score: 2
      You might be surprised. I just got rid of my '89 Dodge Colt, although it only had 113K on it. (Traded it in towards a '96 Accord.) It wasn't in that great of shape: it ran and the AC worked, but the rest of it had seen better days.

      The dealer sold it the next day: he barely had time to clean it out.

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  17. "Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by pm · · Score: 1

    From the article:
    "The Hondas and the giant wagon, however, went without chutes, gaining speeds of up to 140 mph depending upon angle of attack. "

    140mph? Is that right? It seems awfully slow to me. I would have thought that the terminal velocity of a car would have been much higher than that.

    1. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 3, Funny
      I have super big pipes on my Civic and a VTEC badge and an "R" sticker and a "Powered by Honda" decal and TWO white racing stripes down the center, so my Honda can go 340 at LEAST before terminal velocity.

      I can totally blow the doors off of any Mustang, so watch out! My plate says "00wnzU".

    2. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shut up you ricer fuck. fuck off.

    3. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Squarewav · · Score: 1

      I was thinking the same thing, I used to drive a 3 cylinder chevy sprint around 130mph on my way to work, after about a week of this the block cracked and my max speed went down to 40 ;), I would think in a freefall the thing would go faster, I guess the wind ressitance

    4. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by AntiNorm · · Score: 5, Interesting

      140mph? Is that right? It seems awfully slow to me. I would have thought that the terminal velocity of a car would have been much higher than that.

      Sounds about right to me, especially when you consider that in the normal belly-to-earth position, the human body will hit a terminal velocity of around 120 mph. Cars have more mass, but they also have a lot more surface area against which air molecules will press as they fall, balancing out the extra mass.

      Incidentally, I am both a licensed skydiver (A-38847, getting my B before too much longer) and an engineer.

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    5. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by laserjet · · Score: 2

      Well, that all depends if your civic is yellow, or how much yellow it has on it.

      Speed is directly proportional to the amount of yellow on the car + (coffee can muffler + 2).

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    6. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by phorm · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess adding a spoiler wouldn't help much in this case eh? :-)

      It's a bird... it's a plane... - phorm

    7. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by FTL · · Score: 2
      140mph? Is that right? It seems awfully slow to me. I would have thought that the terminal velocity of a car would have been much higher than that.

      Keep in mind that the article said they remove the engine block. That would considerably reduce the mass, without affecting the surface area. Density goes down, and thus so does terminal velocity.

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    8. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by nurightshu · · Score: 2

      Dude, do you have a coffee can muffler + 2? My coffee can muffler +1 almost got my party killed last gaming session (my elf just had to bring his Arabica along with him and the rattling attracted a pack of kobolds).

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    9. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by donnz · · Score: 1

      Incidentally, I am both a licensed skydiver (A-38847, getting my B before too much longer) and an engineer.

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    10. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by DemiKnute · · Score: 5, Funny

      140mph? Is that right? It seems awfully slow to me.

      That's only because you've never hit the ground doing 140mph. If you had, you'd realize just how fast that is.

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    11. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it should be: IANALSNAE (I am neither a licensed skydiver nor an engineer) Disclaimer: IANAET (I am not an English teacher)

    12. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it seems awfully slow to him most probably because he doesn't live in the US, therefore doesn't insist on sticking to miles, yards, feet, and whatnot. try 225kmph.

    13. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by polypropylene · · Score: 1

      Also, according to the article, they prep the cars by taking out the engine and the transmission. I guess this is so the planes can take off with them easier, etc. I'm sure this has a huge effect on their terminal velocity.

      I thought 140mph was way too slow as well, until I read that. With just an empty sheet metal body it would still have the same surface area but a lot less mass.

    14. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by AndyMan! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      140mph? Is that right? It seems awfully slow to me. I would have thought that the terminal velocity of a car would have been much higher than that.

      Yes. Cars fall EXTREMELY unstable. They tumble, literally. Sometimes they do rotations, sometime they do what we call "potatoe chipping", where they just teeter-totter back and forth.

      They tend to fall generally with their axels to the ground, meaning their biggest flat surface area is creating all that drag.

      A human body in a belly to earth position has a terminal velocity of about 120 MPH. Put that human body into a verticle position (very dificult to hold), and speeds tend to go up to about 180 mph, but can go as high as 300mph.

      Yes, I'm a skydiver. 400 jumps so far, and a "D" (master) licence from the United States Parachute Association.

      _Am

    15. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Blackknight · · Score: 0

      Mass is irrelevant. If you drop a bowling ball and an apple off a building, they will hit ground at the same time.

      The only thing that would change the terminal velocity of the car would be to change it's aerodynamics.

    16. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Sneftel · · Score: 1

      Yay! You get the "clueless AP" trophy AND the "unclear on the concept of humor" trophy! Yay you! now screw off.

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    17. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      try 225kmph.

      Still very slow for a free-fall. Heck, many cars can do that kind of speed on the road. Granted, it's not the same orientation, but wouldn't the car turn itself in such a way as to minimize air resistance (i.e. nose down)

    18. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by AntiNorm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Mass is irrelevant. If you drop a bowling ball and an apple off a building, they will hit ground at the same time.

      This is assuming no air resistance. Air resistance makes a pretty big difference; without air resistance, the concept of terminal velocity would not exist. A freefalling object would just keep accelerating and accelerating until it hit the ground.

      As a quick demonstration of this, compare the real-world terminal velocity of a human body in the belly-to-earth position -- 120 mph -- with what it would hit on a typical skydive from 12000 feet, minus the parachute pull. I'll use an arbitrary weight of 190 lbs for the purposes of these calculations.

      Gravitational potential energy = mass * g * height
      Kinetic energy = (1/2) * mass * velocity^2
      Energy is conserved between GPE and KE considering that we are assuming no air resistance.

      Setting (190/32.2) * 32.2 * 12000 equal to (1/2) * (190/32.2) * v^2 and solving for v yields an impact velocity of 878 feet per second, or 599 mph. This is a far cry from the real-world result of 120 mph, so you can see that friction caused by air resistance makes an enormous difference. As for mass not mattering, mass only doesn't matter if you don't take air resistance into consideration because, as I demonstrated above, the mass is on both sides of the equation so it cancels out. But if you consider air resistance [sum of energy before = sum of energy after plus energy lost to friction], mass no longer cancels out. Incidentally, yes, different skydivers (IAAS) do fall at somewhat different rates, but 120 mph is the generally accepted standard. Different people have different masses and different surface areas, so their terminal velocities will be slightly different.

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    19. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Aldurn · · Score: 1

      Besides that, at 88mph, it will begin to travel through time.

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    20. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by balloonhead · · Score: 1
      And here was me assuming that the mass had (virtually) no effect on the terminal velocity, just the aerodynamics.


      Of course I may well be wrong, that's just from high school physics and that was about 10 years ago. I may even have been wrong then...

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    21. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      but wouldn't the car turn itself in such a way as to minimize air resistance

      The weight of the engine at the front would help this surely...

    22. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by KUHurdler · · Score: 1

      You mean like parachutes do?

      most objects don't naturally minimize their air resistance as they fall. It would probably just spin alot.

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    23. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by mekkab · · Score: 2

      Dewd, You and laserjet are my kind of nerds...

      A swift move from a ricer joke to a dnd joke in no time flat. Good sirs, I swill my Mt. Dew at you!

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    24. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by geekoid · · Score: 2

      umm are you aying things with more mass fall faster?

      I hope not, but it sure seems like that is what you are saying.

      You know hammer, feather, gravity.

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    25. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully you're a better skydiver than engineer. Mass doesn't enter into the equation....

      Unless you're considering that car as an airfoil and are trying to calculate it's glide slope. :-)

    26. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two objects that present equal surface area in the direction they're falling will fall at different rates in air if they have different masses. True, in vacuum mass doesn't make a difference. But when objects fall in a medium that pushes back at them, it exerts a force that tends to slow the fall (or reduce acceleration of the fall). Objects that are pushing down harder - that is, objects which have more mass (since an equal gravitational acceleration is applied to each object) - will see less of a reduction in acceleration (because the force the air exerts up at the object is being divided by more mass), so the net result is that the more massive object falls faster (and has a higher terminal velocity) in atmosphere.

      Not that this is a very pronounced effect...IIRC, at high velocities, air resistance is proportional to the square of the velocity of the falling object.

    27. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So a 1957 Chevy should fall nose first due to massive tailfins.

    28. Re:"Gaining speeds of up to 140mph"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cars have more mass

      If you knew anything... you'd know that mass does not infulence rate of descent.

  18. Give me your car.... by rob-fu · · Score: 1

    and I'll push it off of a really tall bridge (as long as I'm free of any legal consequence and you sign a contract stating so).

    Either way, you'll acheive the same desired effect -- a busted car. w00t.

  19. cluster by grant+harris · · Score: 1

    A beowulf cluster of falling cars? Sounds kinda dangerous don't you think?

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  20. A new movie by CaptainMunchies · · Score: 2, Funny

    For some reason, I see this as a chance for Hollywood to make a Speed 3 ... ::imagines Sandra Bullock fighting terrorists in a parachute at 30,000 feet::

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    1. Re:A new movie by Niles_Stonne · · Score: 1

      Short movie... Once the bus reaches the ground it won't be travelling at 55 Mph anymore...

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  21. I'll get it out of my system by teslatug · · Score: 1
    "Parachutes for the car are optional. Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside."
    OK, who's ready to sign up? Depressed people lower your hands, I wasn't talking to you...
  22. Ooohh.. scary! by The_dev0 · · Score: 1

    I've just booked me and my car in. It seems safer for the car that letting my girlfriend drive. Hey wait a minute... that yellow buzzbox pictured IS my car!!!

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    1. Re:Ooohh.. scary! by stormshadow97 · · Score: 1


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      Sam: Not if you don't mind me clawing at the dashboard and screaming like a cheerleader.

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  23. They should talk to GM or Ford by Black+Copter+Control · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm sure that any of the big 3 auto manufacturers would jump (excuse the pun) at the chance to put a paratrooping SUV into their adds. $15K/jump would be a pitttance to them. You might even have to raise your price just to get their attention.

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    1. Re:They should talk to GM or Ford by diesel66 · · Score: 1

      Now that's a crash test!

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    2. Re:They should talk to GM or Ford by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      And somehow, don't ask me how, the Ford will likely roll-over and explode well before hitting the ground.

  24. Nessisary Comment... by cdrj · · Score: 1

    Talk about an air-bag...

  25. Obligatory Deep Thought by ElJefe · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I bet a funny thing about driving a car off a cliff is, while you're in midair, you still hit those brakes! Hey, better try the emergency brake!"
    -Jack Handy

  26. Can I... by Locke!Erasmus · · Score: 1

    recommend a list of people that should be on the bus?

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    1. Re:Can I... by Tingler · · Score: 1

      40 lawyers sounds like a good start.

    2. Re:Can I... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually It's kind of funny, but I don't have 40 enemies!
      I don't have any enemies at all.
      I've outlived them, every last one of them.

  27. Yet another reason to love duct tape... by thelenm · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the story: The hoods are duct-taped shut, since metal tearing off at terminal velocity could endanger the "drivers."

    Boy, I wish I had a nickel for every time duct tape prevented someone's violent death at terminal velocity.

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    1. Re:Yet another reason to love duct tape... by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 2

      I mean duct tape is cool and all that but I think I would opt for welding that hood shut - and the doors, trunk, etc.

    2. Re:Yet another reason to love duct tape... by laserjet · · Score: 2

      Your post if funny and I am sure you also know it is true as well. The military has used duct tape for a long time to repair damage while in flight or on the ground from debris or bullets.

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    3. Re:Yet another reason to love duct tape... by yukonbob · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Boy, I wish I had a nickel for every time duct tape prevented someone's violent death at terminal velocity.

      Yeah...Duct Tape... It's like The Force; it's got a dark side, a light side, and it holds the universe together.

      -yb

    4. Re:Yet another reason to love duct tape... by psych031337 · · Score: 2
      The military has used duct tape for a long time to repair damage while in flight or on the ground from debris or bullets.


      Interesting side note: The german military nicks their official duct tape "Panzertape" - literally that's "tank tape". Weird stuff though. Won't stick to anything except for itself. Guess it's perfect for selaing that punctured tube. I used some of it when I had a needle-sized hole in my car's engine cooling system (in the hose). I kept losing water at a slow rate before doing it, and had to refill every other day. After I sealed it I literally forgot about it until it appeared on the inspection invoice.
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    5. Re:Yet another reason to love duct tape... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

      I repaired a half-inch split in my car's radiator hose with gaffa tape (as it's called in the UK - actually, proper gaffa tape is slightly different from duct tape). It lasted for a couple of months, until I could be bothered to get into the totally inaccessible hose to replace it (bottom radiator hose on a 1978 Volvo 265, no space to work on it).

    6. Re:Yet another reason to love duct tape... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So I guess you've joined the dark side of the duct tape.

    7. Re:Yet another reason to love duct tape... by RealUlli · · Score: 1
      Won't stick to anything except for itself.

      Nope, Sorry. There are at least two types of Panzertape: one that cannot be torn and one that can. The effect that it sticks to nothing but itself is, I suspect, an effect of old age. (I've got multiple rolls, at least one sticks like hell to anything it encounters, the other does as you described..) AFAIK the spec of Panzertape was to stick to anything, including wet and/or slightly oily surfaces.

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    8. Re:Yet another reason to love duct tape... by abischof · · Score: 2

      You're probably thinking of "gaffer's tape", which is used by gaffers in the television and music industries. And, as you allude, it's not quite the same thing as duct tape.

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    9. Re:Yet another reason to love duct tape... by Tower · · Score: 1

      In the US it is usually gaffer's tape or gaff tape. Quite a bit nicer for many uses - you can tape a bunch of cables to a carpetand when you remove the tape, the glue isn't all over the cables and carpet (unlike duct tape). Audio reinforcement crews go through that stuff like water, and it is worth its weight in gold.

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  28. Hippie Business Plan Revealed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) charge people to let them use plane to push car out of
    2) ????
    3) Profit!

  29. Acceleration by Damion · · Score: 2, Funny

    Look! My car can go from 0 to 60 in 2.75 seconds!

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    1. Re:Acceleration by diesel66 · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. My car can go 140 to 0 in 1/10 of a second!

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  30. 40 people in a bus? by jhughes · · Score: 1

    I'd pay for that...but I have a lot more then 40 enemies.....

    Oh, wait, the people have parachutes? *sigh* There goes that idea.

    1. Re:40 people in a bus? by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

      Just make sure to make discrete but liberal use of the duct tape roll used to tape the hood shut.

      For even better effect, remove duct tape from the hood altogether!

  31. Re:Ooo Ooo! I've got an idea! by cornice · · Score: 2

    It's one way of distributing the $15K anyway.

  32. SKYDRIVING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving skydriving

    it's fun.Your comment violated the "postercomment" compression filter. Try less whitespace and/or less repetition. Comment aborted.

  33. Scary by Andy+Smith · · Score: 2

    Take a look at this picture. Is it just me or is the thought of doing that even more scary than regular skydiving? Irrational, I know, but there's just something about the idea of falling while inside a car, which is normally a safe environment, that adds an extra psychological edge to it all.

    1. Re:Scary by CvD · · Score: 1

      You should check out the trailer for the movie Good Stuff. They have that car in it. Its actually surprisingly stable. Most cars will just keep flipping on end, but some of them float neatly.

      I think it would be really neat to sit in a car in freefall. It'd be so weird. The only scary thing is if the thing starts spinning... you have to take care not to get whacked by it.

      Cheers,

      Costyn.

    2. Re:Scary by enneff · · Score: 2

      Err, in what way is being inside a car a 'safe environment'? There's a much higher chance of injury/death while travelling inside a car than skydiving.

    3. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Getting whacked by the car would be the least of my worries. With the car spinning, you risk the chance of blacking out. If you are seated in the vehicle at the time, then chances are that your reserve pilot chute may be partially obstructed so if your Cypres (AAD) fires, your reserve may not be able to deploy correctly.. That is the scaryiest bit!

    4. Re:Scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...inside a car, which is normally a safe environment

      obviously you have never been to Florida

      "old people, though slow and dangerous behind the wheel, can serve a useful purpose..."

    5. Re:Scary by geekoid · · Score: 2

      don't worry, just use a car with iar bags.
      Unless your under 10, then they would be to dangerous! ;)

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  34. and this is slashdot material how ? by yuri82 · · Score: 0

    did the car run on linux ?

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  35. only 40? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well, maybe if they drop 15 of them, all of Congress could get on board.

  36. Oops (been there done that) by Black+Copter+Control · · Score: 1

    That's what I get for posting before I read the article.

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  37. Wait a minute by DavidLeblond · · Score: 1

    $15,000 to destroy my car? I could do that for free! And I'd save the $15,000 (that I don't even have) for a NEW car.

  38. Why? by Cyno01 · · Score: 2

    Why whould i pay $15k to destroy my car? A big sledgehammer is a lot cheaper and a lot more fun.

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  39. Piano Tossing by Stigmata669 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Lets not forget the piano tossing trebuchets , inspiring crazy guys to throw big stuff since the middle ages.

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  40. Chuteless jump by Andy+Smith · · Score: 2

    Oh my God...

    Okay so he's holding on to it but that's gotta get some respect.

    Has the seen-it-in-the-movies jump ever been done, where someone jumps without a parachute and someone else catches up with them? I wonder which is worse, being the guy without the chute or the guy who has to catch him?

    1. Re:Chuteless jump by AndyMan! · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just to clarify the "chuteless" jump, the stuntman who did its name is Greg Gasson. You can see the full video of it on the DVD called "Good Stuff", which you can buy from www.joejennings.com

      During Freefall Greg was attached to the rig via an invisible harness and cable system.

      However, upon deploying the parachute he disconnects the harness and alternates between hanging from his hands to his feet, then eventually climbing up and puts on the rig for landing. It's very cool, but if you think about it, no more dificult then much of the trapeze work done in circuses.

      (yes, I'm a skydiver, with over 400 jumps to my name. I've always worn my parachute.)

      _Am

    2. Re:Chuteless jump by prismatic · · Score: 1

      umm, read the article. here, i'll quote it for you:
      "Gasson, who is known for leaping from planes without wearing his parachute (he's done this 16 times, taking a mid-air parachute handoff from a fellow 'chutist) ..."

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    3. Re:Chuteless jump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummm. Actually Andyman! is right, regardless of what some newpaper story says. Skydiving is one of those things that is grossly misunderstood by a very large percentage of the population, including the media. Rarely is there a new story/piece regarding skydiving that doesn't have some amount of just plain wrong information in it.

    4. Re:Chuteless jump by geekoid · · Score: 2

      " All photos on this page used by permission, courtesy of Mike McGowan."
      I expected that sentenance to be follwed with:
      "May he rest in piece"

      hehe. man that takes some serious cajones.

      I'm glad I didn't see a picture like that when I was 19. I'm sure I would have gone out and tried it...then died.

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  41. did anybody else get the feeling.. by mandolin · · Score: 3, Funny
    .. while they were looking at the second set of pics, that..

    maybe it's not such a hot idea to chase a cargo plane from below and behind, while a car is falling out of its ass?

    "Look bubba, *click* that car *click* just keeps getting bigger and bigSMASH

    1. Re:did anybody else get the feeling.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not a plane behind the jump plane taking the pictures. It's another skydiver who went out the back of the jump plane before the car, with a camera on his helmet.

      Hehe.

    2. Re:did anybody else get the feeling.. by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 2

      It wasn't a problem, they had their turn signal on.

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  42. A first ever. by Bimkins · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside."

    This has the potential to be the first 40-way Darwin Award...

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    1. Re:A first ever. by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 3

      Works for me. :P

    2. Re:A first ever. by halo8 · · Score: 1

      wow... this post is awsome
      i havent laffed that hard in a LONG time
      Kudos

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  43. A greyhound bus? by SuperDuG · · Score: 2
    This doesn't seem like the best of ideas. I mean dropping something so heavy from such a height isn't exactly rocket science. I realize it's out in the desert, but that doesn't neccessarily mean that someone won't be sitting there on the ground watching a car crash into them.

    Anyone else think that dropping a bus with 40 people is just asking for trouble?? Unless they're looking to rip the roof off of it, there's to many what if's to make this even remotely safe. Might just as well make parachutes for the people optional as well.

    Is this like the semi-finals season for the darwin awards and I just wasn't looking?

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    1. Re:A greyhound bus? by Suppafly · · Score: 2

      Yeh.. I don't see how they are going to do a bus.. I seen them drop the car out on TLC or something.. they cut the roof off, but what they didn't count on was the fact that the car wasn't anywhere close to being evenly weighted so it spun around on the way down making it really hard for the people to jump out with out being tangled in the chute.

    2. Re:A greyhound bus? by prismatic · · Score: 1

      you can stabilize yourself in the air before you pull your chute, to keep from getting tangled up

      they could probably do it just like a c-130 static line jump, but w/o the static lines. just get everybody to line up nice and tight, and spew out the door. stabilize in the air, pull chute, land safely.

      it actually doesn't sound very hard at all

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    3. Re:A greyhound bus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The big problem is that the bus itself would
      most likely be spinning and tumbling, making it rather difficult to climb out. Once they're clear of the bus, getting stable before deploying the parachute is something any competent skydiver can do readily.

      Now, with a drogue (smaller parachute) to stabilize the bus, you might have something...

      Ari (yet another skydiver, 950 jumps)

    4. Re:A greyhound bus? by geekoid · · Score: 2

      That kind of thinking would have kept Evil Kenival from every getting on a motorcycle. ;)

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  44. It's a great place.. by deathcow · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...to wake up a drunk friend.

    1. Re:It's a great place.. by Cool+Hand+Luke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Question: Do you:

      a) put your friend in the driver's seat and shake him awake violently, asking him to hit the brakes;

      or

      b) put your friend in the passenger's seat, nudge him awake, grinning like a madman, and tell him you've found a short cut and will have him home in, oh, 3 minutes?

      Decisions, decisions...

  45. Holy Crap Batman... by rat7307 · · Score: 1

    Fron the article:

    The grand plan? "We want to drop a Greyhound bus from a C5A," says Gasson. "We'll fill the bus with 40 or so skydivers, and they'll climb out on the way down."

    Can anyone else see this coming up on 'Worlds Worst/Funniest/Stupidist Disasters' or 'When Buses Attack' soon???

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  46. Read the article... by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Funny
    "There's no real science to it--it's hit or miss," says skydiver/skydriver Greg Gasson,

    How many times do the cars miss the ground?

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    1. Re:Read the article... by kreyg · · Score: 5, Funny

      How many times do the cars miss the ground?

      Not often, but if distracted at just the right moment...

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    2. Re:Read the article... by JFMulder · · Score: 2

      Damn, you were faster than me to say it!

    3. Re:Read the article... by orn · · Score: 1

      R.I.P. D. Adams. And thanks.

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  47. I know what my bedtime prayer is from now on by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 1
    Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside.
    PLEASE GOD let me pick the 40 people!!
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  48. 40 people? by psxndc · · Score: 2
    To anyone that thinks dropping cars out of an airplane, much less dropping a greyhound bus, is a good idea, or fun, or remotely above cro-magnon thought:

    line for the bus forms to the right, first 40 get in...

    psxndc

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  49. Flying cars.... by Jaysyn · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't think this is what they ment when they said we'd have flying cars in the future.

    Jaysyn

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  50. Company Slogan by Nept · · Score: 2

    if at first you don't suceed ... skyd(i)ving is not for you.

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  51. Re:The point of this story? by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    that's so weird, befor today i've heard that expression once, in the comic boondocks, i didn't get it then, i heard it 3 times today, now i get it, jeez, how long ago was that ep of happy days on, and just now its becomign a common expression...

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  52. Does anyone else see something wrong with that? by Raul654 · · Score: 2

    Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside.

    Something about that just sounds so illegal.

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    1. Re:Does anyone else see something wrong with that? by Matthaeus · · Score: 2

      Your comment and your sig fit perfectly together. Pick two and discard them. :)

  53. Again: "Perspective" by cribcage · · Score: 5, Funny

    But fast ROLLER COASTERS are the great, perilous danger from which we must protect the masses.

    Riiiight.

    Sometimes the funniest part of being American is comparing the things we can't do with the things that are perfectly legal.

    crib

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    1. Re:Again: "Perspective" by Some+Dumbass... · · Score: 2

      But fast ROLLER COASTERS are the great, perilous danger from which we must protect the masses.

      Riiiight.


      Aw, c'mon, you must be able to see the flaws in that argument.

      First, skydrivers are well aware that they're doing something dangerous. If roller coasters are dangerous to normal folks, people sure don't know about it. There's no point in protecting people from risks they knowingly take, but there is a good reason to protect them from risks which they aren't aware of.

      Second, how many people skydrive? Maybe a few dozen ever. Compare that to the number of people who go on roller coasters. It makes a lot more sense to regulate an activity which millions of people participate in every year than one which only a few participate in. I bet bungee jumping wasn't regulated at first, but there are regulations now (such as this one from South Carolina).

    2. Re:Again: "Perspective" by richie2000 · · Score: 2
      It makes a lot more sense to regulate an activity which millions of people participate in every year than one which only a few participate in.

      Only one or two people per century actually go out and shoot a president. Maybe that shouldn't be regulated then. At least not until we have dozens a year taking potshots at the Bush.

      Hey, maybe this isn't such a bad idea after all...

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    3. Re:Again: "Perspective" by yelligsc · · Score: 1

      Second, how many people skydrive? Maybe a few dozen ever.

      I used to jump at a SMALL drop zone in WI. They had like 20 or more people there who jumped EVERY DAY, and on weekends like 10-20 more people who would come through and do their first jumps.

      This is nothing compared to places like skydive chicago, Im sure.

      A few dozen is entirely off base.

      However, getting back to the origional post about rollercoasters. The major difference is, as mentioned skydivers are aware of the risks (or more likely to be than the average roller coaster rider), and beyong that they are required to have training and be certified.

      Very different situations.

      Scott.

    4. Re:Again: "Perspective" by hiei · · Score: 1

      note, he said how many people *skydrive* ever. I misread it at first myself. Original poster care to clarify this?

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    5. Re:Again: "Perspective" by cribcage · · Score: 2

      You want the original poster to "clarify" his use of the term "skydrive"?

      Here's a wild thought: Next time you decide to post into a thread, how about you take a moment to read the subject article, first? Or even the TITLE of the frickin' thread?

      No? Too crazy? Too much effort?

      Forget skydriving and roller coasters. Let's get some decent legislation on the books addressing rampant idiocy.

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  54. Sounds like fun.. by miketang16 · · Score: 0

    I've always wanted to skydive while inside my car. Oh, wait... if I wanted to do that I could always drive off a cliff, granted the results would be a little more permanant... =)

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  55. kickass! by jjeffries · · Score: 2

    They'll give me $15,000 to drop my uninspected '86 Plymoth from an airplane? Uh... ok, it's a deal!

  56. Decadence by Egoine · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From the shots page #2:

    "[...] It is without a doubt, American decadence at its finest. [...]"

    I can't stop trying to put things in perspectives theses days and realize how much the world is unfair. Some people will never get to use a car, and some are ditching one while skydiving. (I guess it doesn't work anymore, but still)

    I am not saying it is not right to do so. It looks *really* cool!

    But. Can't help and think about other human beings not even having access to drinkable water...

    Some day we will have to face the fact that a more fair repartition is indeed needed. Are we happier today than 100 years ago because we can skydive in cars?

    Go ahead, mod me down as redundant, libertarian bastard, suckers who speaks but does nothing, etc... I really just want to know if other feel the same way.

    1. Re:Decadence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Some people will never get to use a car,
      "Get to" use a car? Driving is a positive experience? Obviously you don't live in Houston.
    2. Re:Decadence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i couldn't agree more with you.

    3. Re:Decadence by Egoine · · Score: 1

      No, I don't.

      As much as I hate pollution and car jams, a car is a damn usefull thing to have, especially if you don't live in a big city.

      I just bought one. I managed to live without for years, using buses, subway & bike in a bug city.

      But the car offers me so much more possibility, like being able to go somewhere visit friends without having to beg someone to come with me!

      I've rented cars. It's not as cool as it sounds: you loose a lot of time.

    4. Re:Decadence by yelligsc · · Score: 1

      I dont know that this is a particually libertarian point of view.

      But.. I was sitting on the can yesterday thinking about this sort of stuff.. all the kids who died young, and people who are not as fortunate.

      I decided that I will not feel guilty for being alive.

      Yes, we should help other people, but that doesnt mean that you are a bad person for enjoying the benifits that your parents and grand parents worked hard to get for you.

      In my family, at least, the way my parents, and certainly grandparents lived is not as nice as the lifestyle I have. But they worked hard to get it. And I will work hard to make sure my kids have even better opportunities (Assuming I get a girlfriend, etc. :)

      Scott.

  57. isnt that like, dangerous? by kmac06 · · Score: 1

    I would think having a several ton car fall on your head would hurt...

    but maybe thats just me...

    1. Re:isnt that like, dangerous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually I'm quite sure you wouldn't live long enough for pain to register. ;)

  58. i have a better deal by v8interceptor · · Score: 1

    i'll drop their plane out of my car for $15.

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  59. Evolution in action? by eagl · · Score: 1, Redundant

    A greyhound with 40 people inside... I can already see the Darwin Award writeup for this one.

  60. Re:The point of this story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look.

  61. 40 People... by Izanagi · · Score: 2

    Do we get to pick them?

    Bill Gates
    Hillery Rosen
    Jack Valenti
    Michael Eisner
    Senator Hollings
    Lance Bass
    Britney Spears
    N'sync ...

    More suggestion, for this no parachute drop, please?

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    1. Re:40 People... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, excuse me...

      Isn't it treason (or whatever -- enough to be labeled Terrorist?) to suggest the murder of a Senator?

      And what about Britney Spears? Wouldn't that be like commiting adultry while on a diet of liquid ham sandwitches?

    2. Re:40 People... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nsync is out...seems like Lance Bass is having a problem chipping in his share of the $15k cost.

  62. Options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Parachutes for the car are optional.
    How about pants? Inquiring Tacos want to know.
  63. Wind Resistance? by stormshadow97 · · Score: 1

    Perhaps someone with a better knowledge of physics could enlighten me, but doesn't it seem that a 2000-lb. car in freefall would fall a little faster than the "passengers" inside (wind resistance and what not)? It doesn't look like they are strapped in or anything...

    ... and it still isn't April 1st ;)

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    1. Re:Wind Resistance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, you don't need a good understanding of physics to figure this one out. Gravitational acceleration = gravitational acceleration.

      They're in the car, so they fall as 1 unit until the "passengers" hop out. Once they do, then wind resistance comes into play and the car beats them to the ground (well, obviously, since they have parachutes, but you know what I mean).

      If you're on a motorcycle driving down the highway at 75 mph, do you get ripped off the bike (you're not strapped in) due to the bike and yourself encountering different levels of wind resistance as separate objects?

    2. Re:Wind Resistance? by Mostly+Monkey · · Score: 1

      Assuming that the car doesn't rotate, and stays horizontal, the individuals would actually experience a low relative air pressure that would keep them in the car. Try putting a piece of paper on top of a book (making sure that the paper doesn't extend past any edges) and dropping it book first. Neat huh?

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    3. Re:Wind Resistance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Naaa... The car is being limited in drop speed by wind resistance. Once terminal velocity's been reached, the 'passengers' will feel 1G pulling them into their seats same as on the ground- assuming the car stays upright.

  64. Haha by kmac06 · · Score: 1

    Very good point :)

  65. Parachutes on planes by ruiner13 · · Score: 2

    If they think they can safely parachute land a bus full of people, why can't they put safety parachutes on airliners? I understand airliners are much bigger, but the technology must be there. Isn't the cost worth it?

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    1. Re:Parachutes on planes by Suppafly · · Score: 2

      Technically, you don't need a parachute for the bus, just the people inside..

      Also, they have parachutes for small planes such as cesdna's, but I don't think its feasible to put parachutes on larger planes.

    2. Re:Parachutes on planes by salmo · · Score: 2

      They actually manufacture chutes for small single engine aircraft, where this could actually help. They fly relatively slowly and go down a lot more often than airliners.

      But for airliners, even if it would be possible, it probably wouldn't help anything. Think about all the recent plane crashes you have read about or seen on TV. How many of them were due to simple things like engine failure, etc? If the jets are still running, a chute isn't gonna do much. Besides imagine going from cruising speed+ and tossing out a chute. The decelleration would probably kill most people in the plane.

      Also if you look, the people aren't landing in the car or bus, they are jumping out in the vehicle with the top cut off, riding in it for a while and then bailing. And I wouldn't consider what they are doing as safe.

  66. objects to toss instead by JDizzy · · Score: 2

    Hrm.... could donate a Xerox document station, or how about an old Tandy main frame computer. No parachute needed! Just toss em out, and I'll wash my hands of it all. Just don't tell my boss! ;)

    Seriously though, if they can toss out a bus, they can toss anything. Why not a toss a bunch of /. trolls with no parachute... mabe throw a few parachues out seperate, but not as may as the trolls, and see how gets to the chutes and lives.

    Oh wait, it probably not cool to throw people out of a plane, they probably have to sign papers, and tossing people out of a plane is probably consider to be not kool in some states, even if they are trolls. darn... silly technicalities. oh well.

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  67. Re:The point of this story? by quacking+duck · · Score: 1

    You know, I'm getting sick of reading these types of posts. Seems like every other article in the last week has had someone griping "THIS is material worthy of Slashdot?"

    If you're not interested, then move along--these aren't the stories you're looking for.

  68. Seen on ebay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    For sale:

    Extreme Car Heavily modified low-rider version of [enter car name here], xxx miles, as well as 12,000 vertical jump.

  69. Crash Landing by anball · · Score: 1

    Even with a parachute I don't think a car would survive that fall hitting the ground. I really can't imagine a parachute slowing down a 2-ton car enough to avoid damage. I mean, most SUVs' bumpers fall off at 5mph. Imagine the damage at, say, 20mph.

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    1. Re:Crash Landing by DennyK · · Score: 2

      If the parachute(s) are attached right, and there isn't too much wind or rough terrain, it should be possible to have the car land mostly on its wheels. You're definatly gonna need new struts and an alignment job after that, though... ;)

      DennyK

    2. Re:Crash Landing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most SUVs bumpers fall off at 5mph?! How can a vehicle with the word Utility in the name not have _at least_ 5mph bumpers?

  70. Drop a what? by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 2
    Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside.

    "There's no real science to it--it's hit or miss," says skydiver/skydriver Greg Gasson.

    I can see the headlines now:

    Bus Accident Kills 40 in Arizona

    It looks like a lot of fun. :)

    1. Re:Drop a what? by ProfMoriarty · · Score: 2
      "There's no real science to it--it's hit or miss," says skydiver/skydriver Greg Gasson.

      Hmmmm ... I'm not a physics major ... but wouldn't it be more like "hit or hit"???

      Or will the bus get distracted from its intent on hitting the ground and accidently miss ... therefore start flying?

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  71. hmm... by happypizzaguy · · Score: 1

    A friend of Gasson's had just purchased a Short Brothers Skyvan cargo plane in 1996 and on a whim asked the parachutists, "Want to throw out a car?"

    These guys have (your choice):
    a) Too much time
    b) Too much money

    P.S. Am I the only one who feels bad for those poor Civics?

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    1. Re:hmm... by chamenos · · Score: 1

      no...i do too. they've been around for so long only to get tossed out of a plane? i hope i'm not the only one around here who feels bad for inanimate objects.

  72. how about... by garcia · · Score: 2

    how about I make my bad dreams come true, drive off a bridge completely stoned and drunk, fall for fucking ever into the darkness, and end up waking up in a bed w/my girlfriend ;)

  73. "WarDrive" for wireless APs on the way down by MMHere · · Score: 1

    Perhaps they can tote along an 802.11 laptop and search for free access points on the way down.

    1. Re:"WarDrive" for wireless APs on the way down by BlacKat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Was that WarDrive or WarDive? ;o)

    2. Re:"WarDrive" for wireless APs on the way down by geekoid · · Score: 2

      WarSplatting. ;)

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  74. I Don't Knw About Paying Fifteen Grand... by John_Booty · · Score: 2

    ..to have MY car dropped out of the sky, but I'm pretty sure I'd pay a buck or two to see what it looks like when somebody ELSE's car is dropped!

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  75. Obligatory... by Calvinhood · · Score: 1

    Parachutes for the car are optional. Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside

    Is this with or without the parachute? If it's without, there are a few people I'd like to see among the forty...
  76. Uh oh! by brad3378 · · Score: 2

    Wait until the terrorists hear about this one!

    Gee Whiz!
    Thanks Slashdot!

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    1. Re:Uh oh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he actually does have a point y'know.

  77. Duct tape... by dillon_rinker · · Score: 2

    The hoods are duct-taped shut, since metal tearing off at terminal velocity could endanger the "drivers." ...is there anything it can't do?

  78. Chrysler product by kmahan · · Score: 1

    I read that story and instantly thought of doing it to my Piece of Sh*t 1992 Chrysler Jeep Wrangler. Then I figured that it would probably break down on the way to the ground.

    It would be worth gathering up all the pieces and taking them to the Chrysler dealer and asking if this is covered under warranty.

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  79. QOTD by Devil's+BSD · · Score: 3, Funny

    If at first you do not succeed, then skydriving is not for you.

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  80. comments? by laserjet · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Did anyone else not see the (XXX of XXX Comments) by the (Read More...) link of this article on the /. front page? Here I was, hoping to get f1rs7 p0z7 and there are already a bunch of comment!

    did slashdot just crap out for a while?

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  81. people aren't subtle enough these days by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why back when I was a kid people were sneaky about their homicidal intent. Nowadays they just say "my goal in life is to cram 40 people into a bus, drop it from an airplane, and watch it smash to bits." Hmph.

    1. Re:people aren't subtle enough these days by BlacKat · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the age of the 'net. ;o)

    2. Re:people aren't subtle enough these days by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why back when I was a kid people were sneaky about their homicidal intent. Nowadays they just say "my goal in life is to cram 40 people into a bus, drop it from an airplane, and watch it smash to bits." Hmph.

      The real tragedy is that the participants don't have any incentive to write maintainable code.

    3. Re:people aren't subtle enough these days by CvD · · Score: 1

      Eh, but they're actually gonna get out on the way down. I wonder if they're gonna saw the roof off... 60 seconds is not a lot of time to get everyone out one door. Pretty funny idea, though. That'll be some great footage.

      Cheers,

      Costyn. (220 jumps)

  82. Re: your sig by gotih · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Work Harder. Millions on welfare depend on you!

    considering that over 50% of the US budget is spent on military forces, your sig would be more accurate saying, "work harder, millions of foreign civilians anxiously await death dispatched from US planes!" or something...

    pardon the assumption, but middle class americans don't know shit about the realities of welfare in this country. and don't expect to learn truth from tv.

    a lot of homeless people know me -- i can't remember half of thier names but they don't mind because i talk to them. one of them, a vietnam veteran, recently gave me is VA card which entitles him to his welfare and health benefits. disabled, homeless, and not in communication with relatives. he sees no reason to live and gave me this card hoping someone would remember him.

    good luck.

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  83. Darwin Awards by Devil's+BSD · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Dropping a Greyhound bus with 40 people in it? How are the Darwin Award people going to award this one?

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  84. Re: your sig by laserjet · · Score: 2

    I don't disagree, but there are still millions of people that abuse our welfare system. I agree that good comes from welfare too, but there are many people who abuse it. I know a couple of them.

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  85. parachute optional??? by Servo · · Score: 1

    I hope its not optional for that bus full of people.

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  86. it's not a jet. by mumblestheclown · · Score: 2, Interesting
    it's not a jet. the airplane pictured in the article is a turboprop--i'm no expert at these, but i'm guessing of the pilatus or britten-norman variety.

    given that the skill level involved in thusly launching a car without a parachute is essentially zero, fifteen thousand clams seems like a lot of money. whatever it is that they're throwing the car out of is a typical big skydiver hauler. total fuel to 13,000 feet is less than $100 or $200 worst case. Car clean up = $300 or so (let's just say). Pilot - $150, absolute max. Assorted handlers--let's say, a few hundred. $15k seems way out of line.

    Of course, if your client is toyota or whoever it said in the article, you might as well charge $150k.

    FWIF: (FAA) Federal Aviation Regulations state that it is legal to throw / drop things from an airplane as long as care is taken to insure no damage to persons or property on the surface.

  87. Age Old Question by Mr+S1n · · Score: 1

    Once again we are left with the age-old question: If a greyhound bus filled with 40 skydivers smashes into the ground at 160mph in the middle of the desert; does it make a sound?

    1. Re:Age Old Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once again we are left with the age-old question: If a greyhound bus filled with 40 skydivers smashes into the ground at 160mph in the middle of the desert; does it make a sound?

      Or better... If a greyhound bus filled with 40 skydivers smashes into the ground at 160mph in the middle of the desert... does anyone care?

  88. Max speed? (Re:Save yourself 15K...) by phorm · · Score: 2

    What's the max acceleration one of these would reach? You could tell everyone that your old '89 dodge went 5 times faster than their max speed... just don't mention that it was downward acceleration due to gravity. :-)

    Oh, you think THAT'S fast, well the fastest I ever got my old Dodge Colt was 1000mph (insert exact number to the left of mph).

    You'd need somebody really honest to vouch for you. Maybe could you cheat the world records for fastest automobile speed, but that's probably detailed as land-speed

    NOW we know how they got the VW on top of the schoolhouse - phorm

    1. Re:Max speed? (Re:Save yourself 15K...) by lommer · · Score: 1

      shouldn't be more than 200 mph...

      the speed quoted in the article was 140 mph IIRC...

    2. Re:Max speed? (Re:Save yourself 15K...) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the max acceleration one of these would reach?

      9.8 m/s^2.

  89. sky/war/driving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now if only they could map access points for us as they freefall ...

  90. Lame Chrysler joke by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    Daimler Chrysler tested the integrity of the Mercedes E-Class by locking a cat inside -- it suffocated from lack of fresh air. They then tested an LHS by locking a cat inside. The cat vanished!

  91. I Get the Impression... by NeuroManson · · Score: 2

    That this will be the first time in history that seatbelts DON'T save lives... Crash test dummies be damnned...

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  92. It's all a big trick! by Cutriss · · Score: 2

    They're just trying to draw out a superhero, like in Unbreakable! I mean, come on! Dropping a bus full of tourists from a plane at 15,000 feet? Why don't they also get a second plane, fill it full of young women that have relationships with teenage/20-something men, and drop them all at the same time?

    Instant superhero's dilemma!

    You're bound to get a Superman or Spiderman from that!

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  93. Terminal Velocity by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    Wasn't there this lame Charlie Sheen film where he drives a car out the back of a cargo plane in flight to get away from the Russian Mafia guys, and then in free fall he has to open the trunk to rescue "the girl" and then land the both of them safely with his parachute.

    1. Re:Terminal Velocity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean Repo Man with Emelio Estevez?

      http://www.capital.net/~phuston/repoman.html

    2. Re:Terminal Velocity by monkeydo · · Score: 1

      Yes. Terminal Velocity The girl in the trunk was Nastassja Kinski.

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    3. Re:Terminal Velocity by susano_otter · · Score: 2

      This happened in a MacGuyver episode, too.

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  94. The Question of the Day, then is... by MajroMax · · Score: 2

    "What is the airspeed of an unladen Greyhound?"

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    1. Re:The Question of the Day, then is... by shumacher · · Score: 2

      What do you mean? A diesel or gasoline Greyhound?

  95. Yeah... by BeeCee · · Score: 1

    Just keep giving the valet parking attendants more ideas.

  96. Fall Velocity = 140. Yes... that reminds me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    At first I was like 140mph? Nah can't be, then I remembered that the human body with the amout of surface area will only hit the ground at about 120mph. Mr. Wizard time. This all brought on a child hood memory of being at a Mr. Wizard show somewhere in Dobbs Ferry NY and some jackhole asked "Is it true if you drop a penny from the empire state building it will go right though someone?" Well the answer was no. And here's why and a little experiment you can do.

    The surface area of a penny has enough resistance to keep it from accelerating to the point where it could be come lethal to anything other than a jellyfish or bowl of jello. To figure out what the terminal velocity of a penny would be do this.

    Attach a penny to a piece of thread and hang it out the window of your car (at the time it was your mothers car). Now slowly accelerate until the Penny/threat combo is at a 45 degree angle from your hand. At this point see how fast the car is moving. This is the terminal velocity of a penny dropped from the empire state building. Oh and by the way it was 13mph. Not enough to kill someone. However, subistitue a bowling ball for the penny! Now were talking DEATH AND DESTRUCTION!

  97. Shot Bus by hoagieslapper · · Score: 1

    If 40 people are going to do this, wouldn't 4 short-busses be the way to make the divers feel comfortable? If you're going to get on a Greyhound at 30,000ft and fall out of a plain, odds are you rode the short bus.

  98. wasting money is awesome by gyratedotorg · · Score: 1

    you know, im always saying that if i ever have an extra $15k lying around, i'll pay to have my car dropped out of an airplane...

    i mean, why would i want to spend my hard earned money on anything worthwhile? jeeze!

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  99. Re: your sig by TillmanJ · · Score: 1

    Okay, so I'm gonna get modded down, flamed, and called a troll for this, but who cares, it's just Karma, right?

    a lot of homeless people know me -- i can't remember half of thier names but they don't mind because i talk to them. one of them, a vietnam veteran, recently gave me is VA card which entitles him to his welfare and health benefits. disabled, homeless, and not in communication with relatives. he sees no reason to live and gave me this card hoping someone would remember him.

    You just summed it all up there. First, you take the time to talk to (and help?) the folks in your communtiy, as it should be.

    Second, you say this one guy is not in contact with his relatives. That is not my problem. Personally, I don't give a shit about that guy, but you do. Good! I do give a shit about people in my community, and try to help out where I can. However, I could help out a good bit more, and in a way that actually made a difference to the people in need if I wasn't paying so much extortion mon^H^H^H tax to fund a bunch of beureaucrats and middle managers. Which would you prefer?

    Let me tell you something about the 'reality' of welfare in America: It is a system that robs me (as a taxpayer) to supposedly 'help' someone who can't/won't go down to WalMart and get $10.00/hr stocking shelves. Instead, it provides office jobs for a bunch of career yes-men (and yes-women) and allows the Government to point to the project as either a success in need of more funding to make the final push, or a failure due to lack of funding, whichever the lie du jour is.

    The sole function of a beureaucracy is to maintain and expand that beureaucracy.

  100. fuck googlegear.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oh yeah sure the website looks great, the parts are cheap, AND THE HARDDRIVES DONT COME IN BOXES WITH INSTRUCTIONS ON JUMPERS, JUST ANTI-STAT BAGS AND THEY'RE FUCKING BROKEN. the motherboard? IT DOESNT FUCKING WORK. the ram? ECC, I DIDNT ASK FOR ECC.
    sound card? same as harddrive, but at least it works.
    fuck googlegear

    1. Re:fuck googlegear.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bought a HD from them and it was packaged properly (and works fine). Can anyone confirm this claim?

  101. I have a better goal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would LOVE to see footage of various PC's dropped from about 15,000 feet.

    1. Re:I have a better goal! by J-bdy · · Score: 1

      I bet Steve Jobs would do an apple comercial like that.
      j

    2. Re:I have a better goal! by c1pher · · Score: 2, Interesting

      or MacAddict... they've dragged one by a chain with a SUV and beaten the crap out of one with a sledge hammer on video before, back in the day. :-)

      --
      The Adult Happy Meal - "I'm lovin' it!"
    3. Re:I have a better goal! by Lag+Master · · Score: 1

      I remember that.... My favorite cd of all time =)

    4. Re:I have a better goal! by CvD · · Score: 1

      In Arizona they have trash day, where you can take up anything you want. You pay for the weight/space and they'll let you drop it out, provided you clean up the crap afterwards. I bet you could probably find some people to drop PCs for you and film them on their way down. I wonder what the terminal velocity of an ordinary PC would be.

      Cheers,

      Costyn.

    5. Re:I have a better goal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw that. This was around the time when I decided that Mac users were a twisted cult. I never wanted to use a Mac again.

  102. Hans Moleman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like a job for Hans Moleman.

  103. do the math... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    15k/40 people in a bus = 375 per person...

    On one hand I might we willing to spend $375 to be able to say that I jumped out bus that fell from a plane...

    It could be a lot of fun...

    I also wonder if the people who thought this up rode the "little bus" to school.

    As for me I drove the little bus to school...

  104. My opinion... by AndyMan! · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm a skydiver, I've got over 400 jumps to my name.

    Joe Jennings and crew have been tossing stuff out of airplanes in Arizona for quite a few years now. Joe does it because he's a profesional cinematographer, he's the guy that filmed the skydiving scenes in most of the recent James Bond films, plus recently Charlie's Angels and XXX. If there's an ad that features skydiving, Joe shot it.

    Joe films these, and puts them on DVD - his most recent one is called "Good Stuff" - and you can buy it from www.joejennings.com. Buy it. It's worth it. Lots of incredible (and funny!) work.

    Geeks will appreciate this. One of the funnier scenes, Joe throws a living room out of the back of the Skyvan. (note the skyvan is a turbo-prop, not a "jet".) I said they threw a living room out. They did it twice, they rigged up sofa's and loveseats, table lamps, telephones, tv sets, bolted it togeather on a platform, stuck two skydivers in the loveseat, the rolled the whole contraption out the back of the tailgate. What made is so cool is the tablelamps actually WORKED, and the TV was turned on. The tv worked all the way to impact.

    I chuckled to myself when I read in the article "There have been no close calls, near misses or injuries in any of the jumps." On one of the "living room drops", the living room landed 20 feet from the ground film crew. Overheard on the video is "fuck that was close..."

    Anyways I hate to make a post that's largely a sales pitch for a DVD, but for gods sake check this out. It's called "Good Stuff", and you can get it on www.joejennings.com

    Its got full video of all of the car drops, both living room drops, the "chuteless" jumps, and whole lotta other REALLY cool shit.

    _Am

    1. Re:My opinion... by dgb2n · · Score: 1

      Anyways I hate to make a post that's largely a sales pitch for a DVD,

      The whole story is a sales pitch for the DVD. Don't hide your light under a bushel barrel. Its the only +5 post that wasn't moderated "funny".

  105. Re: your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you're complaining about the tax in america, you obviously haven't lived in singapore yet. a honda civic here can buy you 4 in america. people here pay tax to use the roads, along with tax for almost everything else. so quit complaining. to the rest of the world, americans complaining about a high cost of living is like the rich snotty bratty kid claiming he "roughed it out" by staying in a 4 star hotel instead of a 5 star.

  106. How do you make a Yugo faster? by Superfreaker · · Score: 1

    Drop it out of a plane.

  107. Case Mod's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would that be a new Idea for those Case Mod people?

    Drop your case from really high up?

  108. Re:A first ever. (Or last ever...) by Nanoda · · Score: 1

    "Oh shit, I fell asleep and missed my stop! Can you let me off at the next... uh oh."

  109. From the article... by aerojad · · Score: 1

    This learning process taught Gasson and jump partner Joe Jennings enough to drop a Ford F-150 pickup truck attached to a parachute in 1999, something Ford's advertising agency paid them to do for a television commercial. Yeah cuz it's one of the few times a F-150 can be involved in a high speed accident and it dosen't have anything to do with tires coming apart.

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  110. Darwin at work by GrimGrinningGhost · · Score: 1

    Looks like Darwin was right.

  111. Flying MG by the+real+manta · · Score: 1

    There was an advertisement back in the 70's where a MGB was thrown from a plane (with a parachute) and then driven off. So the idea's not entirely new.

  112. Heh Heh. Right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well at least a Mustang won't need a new engine after a quarter mile run.

    But then again, you can always race a Saleen.
    Oh why should I bother? We both have small penises.

  113. I don't get it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did David Copperfield have anything to do with this? Cause he also made the funny in your joke disappear.

  114. So who remember the MG commercial? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Back in the late '60s there was an MG commercial that involved a parachuting MGB. Really quite cool.

    Its a little known fact though, that was the second car they tried that with. The chute didn't open for the first one, which litterally pancaked. I think it was a National Geographic article.

  115. Military by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2
    What I wouldn't pay to see the Military take up on this idea and drop explosive rigged schoolbuses or greyhound busses and drop them over Baghdad like this.

    "One of the 200 or so ways that you can make a difference"

    Damn, I miss Interstate 76. The only game I've ever played where you can rig a schoolbus with guns.

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    /^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
    1. Re:Military by DarkHelmet · · Score: 3, Funny
      Either that, or have the bus go at a velocity so that it crashes into the side of one of their buildings.

      "That'll show you how it's done!"

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      /^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
    2. Re:Military by shumacher · · Score: 2

      I actually thought of something similar in a quasi-serious manner. We were dropping quarter million dollar bombs on Afghan villages. Why don't we just drop Chevy Trackers? After all, we are worried about an area with a very poor economy. Put a few cars there, and we have an empowered populous. Want to use it as a weapon? Fly higher and disable the parachute. Worried about empowering the enemy? Paint them lime green. Wire a GPS to the damned thing. Hook it to the ECU, have the manufacturer program the computer so no GPS lock, no start. Add a remote kill switch (with or without capital K) and transmitter. You now know where all the Trackers you dropped are. (TrackerTracker hmm...) Al Queda won't want to use it because they can't trust it. If they do, you know what they're up to. The villagers now have some reliable transportation that makes sense for their region. We spend maybe $18k per weapon, because the US can never get a break on price. We still save a bundle.

  116. Mass is irrelevant, but... by sahrss · · Score: 1

    This is because inertia increases with mass, *not* because of air resistance. Air resistance is totally separate from the mass/resistance argument, it is merely friction! Like the other guy said, you drop an apple and a car at the same time with no air resistance (like in space, on the moon, etc) they will fall at the same velocity, and hit the ground at the same time.

    1. Re:Mass is irrelevant, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it is merely friction!

      That's exactly what the original poster said.

  117. $15k for low-earth orbit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If they miss, they've just managed to put a car into low-earth orbit for only $15k.

    --Pat / zippy@cs.brandeis.edu

  118. Insane? by Lag+Master · · Score: 1

    Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside.
    Hmm... Assuming all 40 ppl are in the bus when it falls and considering the difficulty you would have getting out of a falling bus, they would have to fly realllly high up just to make sure they all get out before its too late. Maybe 20000 or 30000 feet... Or atleast high enough to require oxygen masks... Gonna cost alot to do all that for sure....

  119. Someone beat them to it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "Their ultimate goal is to drop a Greyhound with forty people inside."

    Isn't that called "Southwest Airlines"?

  120. This bus terminates at the next stop .... by antiRev · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... everybody out. Will there still be the little old lady with ten bags of shopping struggling down the aisle?

  121. Re: your sig by TillmanJ · · Score: 1

    Of course, in America, no one pays a tax to use the roads, nope, there are no Highway Taxes or Tollbooths in America. Americans don't pay Cigarette and Cigarette Use Tax, Dry-cleaning solvent taxes and license fees, Electricity Distribution Tax and Invested Capital Taxes, Electricity Invested Capital Tax, Gas Revenue Invested Capital Tax, Water Company Invested Capital Tax, Electricity Excise Tax, Energy Assistance Charges (electricity and natural gas distributors), Gas Revenue Tax, Liquor Taxes, Oil and Gas Production Assessment, Telecommunications Excise Tax, Telecommunications Infrastructure Maintenance Fees, Tobacco Product Tax, Gaming taxes, Bingo Tax and License Fees, Charitable Games Tax and License Fees, Coin-Operated Amusement Device and Redemption Machine Tax, Pull Tabs and Jar Games Tax and License Fees, Racing Privilege Tax, Riverboat Gambling Tax, Hotel Operators' Occupation Tax, Hotel Operators' Occupation Tax, Sports Facilities Authority Hotel Operators' Occupation Tax, Motor Fuel Taxes, Environmental Impact Fee and Underground Storage Taxes, Motor Fuel Use Tax, Income Tax -- Individuals, Personal Property Replacement Tax, Income Tax --Business (including corporations, estates, trusts, exempt organizations, partnerships and S corporations), Employers Withholding Income Tax, Personal Property Replacement Tax, Sales Tax, Automobile Renting Occupation and Use Taxes, Local Automobile Renting Occupation and Use Taxes, Manufacturer's Purchase Credit, Replacement Vehicle Taxes, County Replacement Vehicle Tax, Municipal Replacement Vehicle Tax, Retailers' Occupation Tax, Service Occupation Tax, Service Use Tax, Use Tax, Home Rule County Taxes, Home Rule Municipal Taxes, Mass Transit District Taxes, Special County Retailers' Occupation Tax for Public Safety, Tire User Fee, Vehicle Use Tax, Coin-Operated Amusement Device and Redemption Machine Tax, Property Tax, Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), Assessor Training Stipends, Assessor Performance Stipends, Chief County Assessment Officer Salary Reimbursements, County Treasurer Stipends, Real Estate Transfer Tax, Hotel taxes, etc...

    To Americans, people from other countries whining about how easy Americans have it and how we should shut up is just thinly veiled jealousy.

  122. I could never see the point. by reality-bytes · · Score: 2

    I could never see the point of jumping out of a perfectly servicable aircraft.

    But driving out of one?!

    Guess this brings a whole new meaning to "Hit the road....."

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    Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
    1. Re:I could never see the point. by entrigant · · Score: 1

      There is no point.... why do you need one? I don't know of much else that can cause quite as intense of a rush.

    2. Re:I could never see the point. by reality-bytes · · Score: 2

      Hmm, I'd imagine that jumping without a chute would be an even greater rush.

      However, I doubt there are many people available to confirm or deny this.

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      Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
  123. Boring... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What I want to see is an empty bus dropped, have 40 skydivers get on the bus *exact change only* then jump out of the bus before its lase 'stop'.

    I'd sit through horrd FOX programming to see that.

  124. Hehe by ReidMaynard · · Score: 1

    I'd like to donate my (Boss's) car. It's the shiny Green Toyota Tundra, 4200 wake forest road, raleigh, nc.

    pick it up anytime.

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  125. Who has the chalk? by linuxcoder · · Score: 1

    So, can I bring my laptop and wireless NIC?

  126. Obligatory Bad Joke by apt142 · · Score: 1

    Better get some air brakes installed then.

  127. Acceleration != Velocity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the max acceleration one of these would reach?

    About 9.81m/s2.

  128. Antolev by asv108 · · Score: 2

    Why don't they rent the largest cargo plane in the world, the Antolev An-124? Instead of putting a car in the hold, there is room for a couple of buses.

  129. This is insane. by nenolod · · Score: 1

    Ok, $15k to sit in a car dropped from a cargo jet with you in it. What if you die or something, does the 15k pay for a funeral as well?

  130. Call Letterman! by KC7GR · · Score: 2

    Seriously! This is right up his alley, considering all the stuff he's gotten to throw off the tops of buildings on past shows.

    I can see it now: A Greyhound bus stuffed to the gills with watermelons, cantaloupes, honeydew, casaba, pumpkins, etc., plummeting to earth from multiples of 10K feet...

    If nothing else, it would add new meaning to the term 'Fruit shake.'

    Keep the peace(es).

    --

    Bruce Lane, KC7GR,

    Blue Feather Technologies

  131. I'll be impressed if the ... by HerringFlavoredFowl · · Score: 2

    I'll be impressed if instead of dropping the bus out of a plane, they base jump with it :-)

    Now that would be a thrill ride ...

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    TastesLikeHerringFlavoredChicken
  132. Tank by geekoid · · Score: 2

    Once you've seen a tank parachute out of the sky, hit the ground, then drive off, everything else is eh.

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  133. Hollywood rescue: Yes. by douglips · · Score: 1

    The Freefall Research pages have information on people who have survived various mishaps while skydiving (intentionally or otherwise.)

    This includes the pilot of a WWII bomber without a chute who caught a crewmate with a parachute, as well as a pilot of a biplane chasing down and rescuing (by means of crashing him into a wing) a freefaller with no parachute.

  134. Yeah they do. by sideshow · · Score: 1

    M1 Abrams tanks can be thrown out the back of a plane. Since they weigh dozens of tons I'm sure a Greyhound is under the wait limit.

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    Hollow words will burn and hollow men will burn.

  135. Re: your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is incredible. Anyone have a URL that lists every US tax? Even better, has anyone actually broken down the percentages for how much the average person ends up paying in taxes every year?

  136. Re:Hollywood rescue: Yes. by Andy+Smith · · Score: 2

    Thanks, good info. Someone mod this up please?

  137. Re:Hollywood rescue: Yes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn! I have a hard enough time catching a fly ball.

    -Dan.

  138. Just Moved to Hawaii by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just moved to Hawaii, and I need a way to move my car. How accurate can they be?

  139. Hmmmm..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    140mph? Is that right? It seems awfully slow to me.

    That's only because you've never hit the ground doing 140mph. If you had, you'd realize just how fast that is.

    Well, no, actually you wouldn't.

  140. Volunteers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My first thought was that the 40 people should be spammers.

  141. Terrorists... by growlydog · · Score: 1

    Lets not give Osama any ideas, now, huh?

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