i can't believe i'm responding to such a silly./ topic. penny a page. how funny.
at any rate, most places use proxying/cashing technologies (squid). after the proxy server gets the page once, it will can cache it for everyone to view from what i understand.
this really sounds like somebody is looking for a way that site hosters can get paid for their bandwidth (and maybe site development costs too!). i guess this type of story is expected every now and then from a HIGH bandwidth site who has some shakey corporate backing. i would think that most business write their web presense as a marketing expense. it's just another publication in a different form. instead of printing costs you have bandwidth costs. so what does a really high bandwidth site do when its corporate backing is going under? it gets sold to another corporation who can handle the marketing expense. who knows, maybe someday ibm will pick up slashdot. these types of micropayment stories apply only to certain types of sites anyway. what about my credit card site where i can go and check my card balance and pay my bill? they're the ones making money using internet technologies by not having to process paperwork.
penny a page. micropayments. it's just plain silly.
not all network pcmcia cards use a dongle to jack in your cat 5 cable. my thinkpad has a little slide out that comes out of the card, the wire just plugs into that. yes, it seems very prone to breakage, but i haven't broken one yet. i don't know of anyone in our office that has either.
this question of building your own laptop to "meet your specs" comes up often, but the fact is that it isn't at all cost effective to do it. it really sounds like this person just wants a "dream machine" not a laptop. he originally says he wants just something for coders, then needs anti-aliased fonts?!? if you want pretty, you better stick to OS X on those cute i-book or power book machines. if you want to be a coder (non-java) get an old P233.
finally.. battery life for a week in japan? now it almost sounds like someone's trolling here. what kind of portable devices will have that kind of battery power? sorry, an electric shaver just doesn't get used enough to qualify.
are you saying there's no open software out there for use with the oracle database? please check here or here for a couple free/open projects which are exclusive to oracle. They're not exactly pl/sql code, but they are exclusive to oracle. Hell, you'll even find C++ oci libs if you do a search on freshmeat. the point is, i don't really think oracle can sue anyone for making free and open software that has extensions and hooks into commercial rdbms.
twice as fast, it seems:). i've got a 1.2 on a k7vza board and like it nicely, but.. if i were going to upgrade an old p2 or even build a replacement, i would look seriously into one of these.
either way, i thing this is going to be a MAJOR setback to the airlines industry. normal folks were just getting back onto flights, even people who usually can't afford to fly have taken advantage of huge price breaks. accident or not, i forsee this keeping people AWAY from planes. too bad trains are soo damn slow.
hit the nail on the head there. it's a friday. better this than having anthrax stories all around this place:). i come to slashdot to get away from anthrax, so if squabbles over packet-switching inventors is all they can muster up toady, i'll take it.
your year of "practical experience" would qualify as education. people typically don't have the opportunity to get that practical experience w/o education. a cert is just specialized education w/o lots of hands on use. (text book knowledge). a person with a cert is just saying, hey, i like , studied it a lot, took a test, and now want to apply it to my job. i think employers DO look for that when wading through the applications.
i'm not really a freedom fighter, and i hope it's not a flame, though with the current state of the mod system could be modded as such.
at any rate, you don't have to "pay" to create a program and run it on an OS. just some of your own time. you do give up some of your rights when you start to use libraries that others have created. you're bound by their terms. say someone makes some kick-ass widgets for M$ and then i end up using it in my applicaion. if their license prohibits me from giving away their OCX, DLL or whatever it is these days (maybe THEY want $$ per seat), then i can't go around giving their binary widget away. point being, when you use others "stuff" you're bound by their terms. suppose my M$ widget license reads that if you use my widget and want to release your stuff to others, you have to give them the code for it. well, either you open the code, or don't use the widget.
couldn't agree with you more. the cde market and the like is probably MUCH smaller than the home/small office desktop. i think even corporate desktops will prefer and choose kde , that is if this linux thing ever gets off the ground:). people will choose kde because it rocks, others will be stuck with gnome because of some old licensing issues.
i'm using jbuilder 4 (foundation?), and can build java beans to get to the database. we had a project here that bought a few of their enterprise licenses, but i think that was due to the j2ee support.
the features we want in an ide these days are much more complicated than interactive debugging and syntax hightliting. we gotta have smart-typing (great feature, but talk about adding bloat), we gotta have drag and drop component structures, etc. for developing JSP's you need nothing more than good syntax highlighting, unless your html is coming from some IDE. side note- any _good_ html ide's, that's what i'de like to find. back on track - for java files jbuilder free version seems to work just fine for me. saves the horrendous hassle of friguring out the classpaths and all that.
from the article- The accord also ends speculation that a fragmented Linux community would be doomed in the face of Windows.
where does this ludicrious speculation come from? this sort of reporting of unsubstanciated claims is quite funny on the surface. but the more general audience reading this article will think MUCH less of the stability of the linux kernel reading crap like this. sure there is/were two different VM systems that has caused lots of posting here on./ and probably much discussion on the kernel mailing list. how in the hell does that indicate that the linux community will be doomed in the face of windows? ARRRGGGGG!
I think most consumers do want a word processor/office application installed on their pc. i notices the pc's at circuit city were coming installed with StarOffice 5.2 (maybe they still are).
so i get a board that supports a processor 1.4gz athlon, and i'm only using an 800 duron. it supports 1.5GB ram, but i've only got 512MB. when i go to upgrade next year, i won't want to ONLY have 1.5GB, i'll want 2GB, i won't want 1.4gz, i'll want 2.5 gz.
i agree with the above poster. somewhere the insanity has to stop.
actually, i would say there's a lot of difference between a server and a desktop.a server does just that, serve stuff (files, email, http requests, whatever). a desktop is is why we have a mouse to the side of our keyboards. it's why our mahcines have monitors on them. a server needs none of those. most newer server software distros include desktop software on their server distro for assisting the admin to manage the server software, but it's not a needed (cept MS where the server part was added to the desktop, but that's a different story).
isn't Shrek a PG rated film? i think in those, the writers have a little more latitude for including humor.
the plot was so incredibly slow to unfold in this movie, and there wasn't alot of "action" going on to keep the viewers attention. i actually fell asleep about 1/2 way through the movie, and completely missed the ending. my kids didn't come away from the movie at all with any funny phrases from the movie (they're still reciting the "with his ONE EYE" commercial around here). this is a very over rated underquality film, but we have come to accept that from disney. overall i liked the graphics in the Dinasaur movie.
i can see how a "one disk" (meaning floppy hopefully) distro would be limited to 2.2 since from what i recall, 2.4 requires more memory/space, but isn't 2.4 better suited for firewalling? i don't think 2.2 support iptables and all it's glory. statefull firewalls are a good thing.
i believe kde 3.0 will include C bindings. not sure how that works out, but there's an article about it on dot.kde.org. it looks like they're also going to be including java bindings for their libraries. kwel...
Is there more or less choice in terms of Operating System pre-installedfor your desktop computer than there was in 1990? How about in 1995?
the answer, EXACTLY THE SAME. in 1990, i would get DOS, 1995, win 3.1 or maybe 95. now, i get XP (maybe some vendors are sill using ME for the time being).
does the manufacturer of engines for my chevy have a monopoly of chevy engines? YES. do i have a choice to install my own engine into my vehicle if i want to? YES. am i likely to if i'm just buying the vehicle as a tool to get to the store to work etc? NO.
you're right, it is common to have beliefs against the courts.. but i think your definition of a monopoly is where the difference really lies.
on the wma.vs. mp3 point. are there devices that will play cd's of wma songs? or portable wma players? i'm not aware of any, so please correct me if there are. i believe it's the same reason ogg is'nt mainstream just yet.
the point is that you're not making a copy for your friends/family. you're loaning your personal use copy for them to view.
would that be any different than me taking MY copy to their house for us all to watch there? would that be illegal? now what if i ended up sleeping through the viewing? i'm no longer using my copy, they are.
um, you're kinda contradicting yourself here a little
The courts agree that MS is a monopoly, but more than anything, the courts...
then later...
MS doesnt have a monopoly, and certainly not with XP
exactly what percentage of the "desktop os" does one need to have in order for you to recognize a monopoly? 99.9%? 100%? a look at other more common monopolistic industries, gas/electric for example, will show that those industries might not serve the entire community they are setup for, but they are the "default". if i want to choose a heating solution apart from my local gas company, i've got to go out of my way to achieve this either by installing some wood stoves, propane tanks in my back yard or what have you. same goes with an operating system. if i want something other than a MS operating system, i have to go out of my way to get it. when you walk into a store to buy a computer, they don't ask which OS you would prefer to have on it.
i consider, as well as the courts as you have so kindly pointed out, that MS is a monopoly. to say otherwise reqlly requires more backing than, hey there's linux some people use that on their desktop, or there's apple computers, they don't use MS operating system.
i'm sure they'll sell it to you with out support. hell, if i could find some iso's i'll burn a copy, mail it to ya for a small fee.
does any of the MS pre-installed consumers receive tech support? i think it's explictly excluded from the "license" they receive.
the point is that microsoft forces their latest technologoes onto mass consumers by removing older products completely from the market. i can't even resell my copy of win98 oem that was included with my desktop purchase without selling hardware to go with it. they don't even let the consumers choose which version of their os to take.
what is it that makes sharing a taped show illegal? i can invite a cable-less friend over to watch the show as it's aired. is that illegal? no, it's private use, not public use. i can record a copy of the show for my own private use. that then becomes my private copy. what laws prohibit me from loaning my private copy of a show to a friend? isn't it the same as loaning a purchased copy of the latest movie or latest audio cd to them?
i wouldn't quite say it's what the consumers "want", more like it's what OEM retailers will install for them. (and more likely what m$ will sell to the oem's)
does m$ still sell win95 licenses to oem's? if win95 instead of ME or XP was pre installed on the users machines, they wouln't give a hoot. as long as the browser were fairly recent, and internet connection was transparent.
and i thought./ was the site with the most crap?!? when did the crown change hands? i wanna see a blue msn mobile being driven around, then i'll believe they've got the most crap!
can you imagine m$ publishing release notes of what was actually changed for the release? now, imagine some geek being able to cross check those changes in the code? what a horid job that would be.
at any rate, i applaude Alan for the stance. The DMCA is a P.O.S put together to benefit the lobying dollars of the RIAA and MPAA, nothing more. i am MOST surprised it's taken sooo long for this law to be challenged appropriately in the courts. i guess since our judges are all worked out from trying to decide weather a dimple is a chad, or a vote is a vote, or even weather votes can or can't be re-counted.
aaahhh the american way:)
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i can't believe i'm responding to such a silly ./ topic. penny a page. how funny.
at any rate, most places use proxying/cashing technologies (squid). after the proxy server gets the page once, it will can cache it for everyone to view from what i understand.
this really sounds like somebody is looking for a way that site hosters can get paid for their bandwidth (and maybe site development costs too!). i guess this type of story is expected every now and then from a HIGH bandwidth site who has some shakey corporate backing. i would think that most business write their web presense as a marketing expense. it's just another publication in a different form. instead of printing costs you have bandwidth costs. so what does a really high bandwidth site do when its corporate backing is going under? it gets sold to another corporation who can handle the marketing expense. who knows, maybe someday ibm will pick up slashdot. these types of micropayment stories apply only to certain types of sites anyway. what about my credit card site where i can go and check my card balance and pay my bill? they're the ones making money using internet technologies by not having to process paperwork.
penny a page. micropayments. it's just plain silly.
not all network pcmcia cards use a dongle to jack in your cat 5 cable. my thinkpad has a little slide out that comes out of the card, the wire just plugs into that. yes, it seems very prone to breakage, but i haven't broken one yet. i don't know of anyone in our office that has either.
this question of building your own laptop to "meet your specs" comes up often, but the fact is that it isn't at all cost effective to do it. it really sounds like this person just wants a "dream machine" not a laptop. he originally says he wants just something for coders, then needs anti-aliased fonts?!? if you want pretty, you better stick to OS X on those cute i-book or power book machines. if you want to be a coder (non-java) get an old P233.
finally.. battery life for a week in japan? now it almost sounds like someone's trolling here. what kind of portable devices will have that kind of battery power? sorry, an electric shaver just doesn't get used enough to qualify.
are you saying there's no open software out there for use with the oracle database? please check here or here for a couple free/open projects which are exclusive to oracle. They're not exactly pl/sql code, but they are exclusive to oracle. Hell, you'll even find C++ oci libs if you do a search on freshmeat. the point is, i don't really think oracle can sue anyone for making free and open software that has extensions and hooks into commercial rdbms.
twice as fast, it seems :). i've got a 1.2 on a k7vza board and like it nicely, but.. if i were going to upgrade an old p2 or even build a replacement, i would look seriously into one of these.
either way, i thing this is going to be a MAJOR setback to the airlines industry. normal folks were just getting back onto flights, even people who usually can't afford to fly have taken advantage of huge price breaks. accident or not, i forsee this keeping people AWAY from planes. too bad trains are soo damn slow.
hit the nail on the head there. it's a friday. better this than having anthrax stories all around this place :). i come to slashdot to get away from anthrax, so if squabbles over packet-switching inventors is all they can muster up toady, i'll take it.
education is worthless?!?
your year of "practical experience" would qualify as education. people typically don't have the opportunity to get that practical experience w/o education. a cert is just specialized education w/o lots of hands on use. (text book knowledge). a person with a cert is just saying, hey, i like , studied it a lot, took a test, and now want to apply it to my job. i think employers DO look for that when wading through the applications.
i'm not really a freedom fighter, and i hope it's not a flame, though with the current state of the mod system could be modded as such.
at any rate, you don't have to "pay" to create a program and run it on an OS. just some of your own time. you do give up some of your rights when you start to use libraries that others have created. you're bound by their terms. say someone makes some kick-ass widgets for M$ and then i end up using it in my applicaion. if their license prohibits me from giving away their OCX, DLL or whatever it is these days (maybe THEY want $$ per seat), then i can't go around giving their binary widget away. point being, when you use others "stuff" you're bound by their terms. suppose my M$ widget license reads that if you use my widget and want to release your stuff to others, you have to give them the code for it. well, either you open the code, or don't use the widget.
couldn't agree with you more. the cde market and the like is probably MUCH smaller than the home/small office desktop. i think even corporate desktops will prefer and choose kde , that is if this linux thing ever gets off the ground :). people will choose kde because it rocks, others will be stuck with gnome because of some old licensing issues.
i'm using jbuilder 4 (foundation?), and can build java beans to get to the database. we had a project here that bought a few of their enterprise licenses, but i think that was due to the j2ee support.
the features we want in an ide these days are much more complicated than interactive debugging and syntax hightliting. we gotta have smart-typing (great feature, but talk about adding bloat), we gotta have drag and drop component structures, etc. for developing JSP's you need nothing more than good syntax highlighting, unless your html is coming from some IDE. side note- any _good_ html ide's, that's what i'de like to find. back on track - for java files jbuilder free version seems to work just fine for me. saves the horrendous hassle of friguring out the classpaths and all that.
from the article- The accord also ends speculation that a fragmented Linux community would be doomed in the face of Windows.
where does this ludicrious speculation come from? this sort of reporting of unsubstanciated claims is quite funny on the surface. but the more general audience reading this article will think MUCH less of the stability of the linux kernel reading crap like this. sure there is/were two different VM systems that has caused lots of posting here on ./ and probably much discussion on the kernel mailing list. how in the hell does that indicate that the linux community will be doomed in the face of windows? ARRRGGGGG!
I think most consumers do want a word processor/office application installed on their pc. i notices the pc's at circuit city were coming installed with StarOffice 5.2 (maybe they still are).
so i get a board that supports a processor 1.4gz athlon, and i'm only using an 800 duron. it supports 1.5GB ram, but i've only got 512MB. when i go to upgrade next year, i won't want to ONLY have 1.5GB, i'll want 2GB, i won't want 1.4gz, i'll want 2.5 gz.
i agree with the above poster. somewhere the insanity has to stop.
actually, i would say there's a lot of difference between a server and a desktop.a server does just that, serve stuff (files, email, http requests, whatever). a desktop is is why we have a mouse to the side of our keyboards. it's why our mahcines have monitors on them. a server needs none of those. most newer server software distros include desktop software on their server distro for assisting the admin to manage the server software, but it's not a needed (cept MS where the server part was added to the desktop, but that's a different story).
isn't Shrek a PG rated film? i think in those, the writers have a little more latitude for including humor.
the plot was so incredibly slow to unfold in this movie, and there wasn't alot of "action" going on to keep the viewers attention. i actually fell asleep about 1/2 way through the movie, and completely missed the ending. my kids didn't come away from the movie at all with any funny phrases from the movie (they're still reciting the "with his ONE EYE" commercial around here). this is a very over rated underquality film, but we have come to accept that from disney. overall i liked the graphics in the Dinasaur movie.
i can see how a "one disk" (meaning floppy hopefully) distro would be limited to 2.2 since from what i recall, 2.4 requires more memory/space, but isn't 2.4 better suited for firewalling? i don't think 2.2 support iptables and all it's glory. statefull firewalls are a good thing.
i believe kde 3.0 will include C bindings. not sure how that works out, but there's an article about it on dot.kde.org. it looks like they're also going to be including java bindings for their libraries. kwel...
Is there more or less choice in terms of Operating System pre-installed for your desktop computer than there was in 1990? How about in 1995?
the answer, EXACTLY THE SAME. in 1990, i would get DOS, 1995, win 3.1 or maybe 95. now, i get XP (maybe some vendors are sill using ME for the time being).
does the manufacturer of engines for my chevy have a monopoly of chevy engines? YES. do i have a choice to install my own engine into my vehicle if i want to? YES. am i likely to if i'm just buying the vehicle as a tool to get to the store to work etc? NO.
you're right, it is common to have beliefs against the courts.. but i think your definition of a monopoly is where the difference really lies.
on the wma .vs. mp3 point. are there devices that will play cd's of wma songs? or portable wma players? i'm not aware of any, so please correct me if there are. i believe it's the same reason ogg is'nt mainstream just yet.
the point is that you're not making a copy for your friends/family. you're loaning your personal use copy for them to view.
would that be any different than me taking MY copy to their house for us all to watch there? would that be illegal? now what if i ended up sleeping through the viewing? i'm no longer using my copy, they are.
um, you're kinda contradicting yourself here a little
...
The courts agree that MS is a monopoly, but more than anything, the courts
then later...
MS doesnt have a monopoly, and certainly not with XP
exactly what percentage of the "desktop os" does one need to have in order for you to recognize a monopoly? 99.9%? 100%? a look at other more common monopolistic industries, gas/electric for example, will show that those industries might not serve the entire community they are setup for, but they are the "default". if i want to choose a heating solution apart from my local gas company, i've got to go out of my way to achieve this either by installing some wood stoves, propane tanks in my back yard or what have you. same goes with an operating system. if i want something other than a MS operating system, i have to go out of my way to get it. when you walk into a store to buy a computer, they don't ask which OS you would prefer to have on it.
i consider, as well as the courts as you have so kindly pointed out, that MS is a monopoly. to say otherwise reqlly requires more backing than, hey there's linux some people use that on their desktop, or there's apple computers, they don't use MS operating system.
i'm sure they'll sell it to you with out support. hell, if i could find some iso's i'll burn a copy, mail it to ya for a small fee.
does any of the MS pre-installed consumers receive tech support? i think it's explictly excluded from the "license" they receive.
the point is that microsoft forces their latest technologoes onto mass consumers by removing older products completely from the market. i can't even resell my copy of win98 oem that was included with my desktop purchase without selling hardware to go with it. they don't even let the consumers choose which version of their os to take.
what is it that makes sharing a taped show illegal?
i can invite a cable-less friend over to watch the show as it's aired. is that illegal? no, it's private use, not public use. i can record a copy of the show for my own private use. that then becomes my private copy. what laws prohibit me from loaning my private copy of a show to a friend? isn't it the same as loaning a purchased copy of the latest movie or latest audio cd to them?
i wouldn't quite say it's what the consumers "want", more like it's what OEM retailers will install for them. (and more likely what m$ will sell to the oem's)
does m$ still sell win95 licenses to oem's? if win95 instead of ME or XP was pre installed on the users machines, they wouln't give a hoot. as long as the browser were fairly recent, and internet connection was transparent.
and i thought ./ was the site with the most crap?!? when did the crown change hands? i wanna see a blue msn mobile being driven around, then i'll believe they've got the most crap!
:)
can you imagine m$ publishing release notes of what was actually changed for the release? now, imagine some geek being able to cross check those changes in the code? what a horid job that would be.
:)
at any rate, i applaude Alan for the stance. The DMCA is a P.O.S put together to benefit the lobying dollars of the RIAA and MPAA, nothing more. i am MOST surprised it's taken sooo long for this law to be challenged appropriately in the courts. i guess since our judges are all worked out from trying to decide weather a dimple is a chad, or a vote is a vote, or even weather votes can or can't be re-counted.
aaahhh the american way