if only borrowing the song didn't involve copying the song. how about we all just put our songs on a global file share, and access/play them from there. oh but wait, the song is still being copied from the share, through my mp3 codec, on through the sound card, out the speaker and into the air. that's a hell of a lot of places that song gets copied to.
let's just end this now and make music, cd's, software, speakers, computers all illegal.
i wouldn't exactly say they go out of their way to create problems. that makes it sound like they purposely create problems. like they WANT the problems. maybe they just have to follow a schedule so the code and or general design starts to get a little messy sometimes?
congradulations! i'm sure i can fairly accurately say that _most_ of us who own cd-writers DO burn music cd's (in addition to the divx avi's and slim system backup). anything from just a mixed audio cd to a cd full of mp3's (sorry ogg, my dvd player doesn't play ogg files just yet) for plopping in the stereo. weather we're buring music we bought in a store is irrelevant, we're still burning music because those cdroms are dirt cheap.
nope, that wasn't obvious, but it's an interesting spin.
it can as easily be construed that by them saying that their cd's will be copy protected, that they plan to do it (or plan to have it done). we all make plans that we never get around to implementing, right? i'm sure M$ has planned to release a hightly stable and secure operating system every release since 1993. weather their plan was met is questionable
very good point! the phone/cable companies aren't the only ones raping coporate america. look at industries such as the: hotels, airlines, auto rental, hardware, software, etc, etc.
the rpm point is a very valid. if the package is advertised as a rh 7.1 package, it should install on a clean rh 7.1 box. on the other side though, someone, anyone could submit a "better" rh 7.1 rpm that will work. hell, even RH has problems releasing rpms which work on their system (kde rpm hell anyone?)
nothing wrong with posting anonymously, just most people usually browse at +1 to filter garbage comments. do you like to weed through trash to look for treasure?
i have to assume your workstations are running the mac os? sorry, i don't know much about the os at all, not it's software. is this reported bug even a bug for mac os? isn't there a version of opera that doesn't expire? oh wait you're running a demo version. next you talk about loading NN on your work stations. if there is a version of NN that works on your system, why haven't you?
and how is this patch going to get on people's machines the don't know how to install a friggin operating system? they just double-click on the blue "e" on the desktop and type where they want to go - presto after a few minutes of dialing the page shows up. patches are great for people who are aware enough. nimbda, code red, etc all had patches BEFORE or just shortly after the virus hit. why did it then infect tons of computers, annoy almost every single web server log file, and contine for months? m$ software is intended for an audience of people who don't know jack about computers, and in that respect they should be held legally and financially obligated to provide bullet-proof software. NN and others are intended for those who know better so should be expempt. any other industry which identifies a bug in it's product issues a public recall of the product to correct the problem (say a finds that it had a line of DVD's that the laser was set too high at the factory, those would be recalled yesterday)
who was the one who "taught" them how to use the IE 5.0 browser? who was the one who originally installed the ie 5.0 browser? a 30-60 minute crash course? they alreay have it at home? what?
if security and choice were choice were important, both these issues could have been mute from the get-go. had the initial install included NN or Opera or whatever as the default browser, and no noticible signs of the IE browser, these issues would be mute.
M$ _should_ ship a quality product, they're not obligated to as far as i know. IT, the computer tech, whoever is responsible to know what software they're providing and weather it meets the technical and functional requirements of the users. Weather or not this is neglect or neglegance on the part of M$ is usually left for the courts to decide.
you are absolutely right (done it myself). and why should we pay for music we can get for free? because it's immoral? i think we've grown up not paying for music. those big boom boxes that were very popular back in the 80's all HAD to have 2 tape decks for dubbing. noone wanted one with only one tape deck. we could borrow a friend's tape and dub it. the best ones were the ones with fast dubbing. now the sharing has become more anonymous and easily available, but it's still the same concept. we're all talking about laws designed around the "intent" of the device. these boom boxes were certainly intended to copy music. how is it that they were sold at all? their sole intent was around making legal backups or mixed tapes?
>And also, if you take a look at search statistics on these networks, the vast majority of people are looking for the latest Britney Spears single, not for garage bands.
maybe the searches are of smiilar proportion as the actual album sales/popularity? why would i search for a garage band who's name i don't know at all? now i go to a show at the local small club and see a band i like, i might search for their music. the fact is, people want compressed music for thier pc's. the music industry completely missed the bus on that one. people QUICKLY found a way to exchange their compressed media. again, the media conglomorates missed the bus. if there's a market for a product, and no-one's giving it legally, guess what, it's going to come to the black market. is the RIAA/MPAA going to "win this fight" any better than the 20-30 year old "war on drugs" we've been waging here in the states? what happened durring the prohibition? did people stop drinking alcohol?
a linux point release would compare to what, a m$ patch? or maybe increment version (win98 - win98se?). in any case, it's quite probable that the patch/upgrade results in large changes in operation of the kernel (i recall NT4 sp1 -x having LOTS of strange incompatibility issues. software would work with NT4sp2 and only that). was there something other than the kernel Vm that was a drastic change? did this change impact binary compatibility with applications?
i agree that linux is probably less standards compliant then other flavors, but i guess you'll get that in a truly open market. it's not that linux isn't working to be standards compliant, no one's coughing up the dough explicitly for it right now thats all.
it needs commercial software, sure, but not commercial rapists. 20$ for this game is way out of line. sure it's "cute", but so is spyro on my playstation. sure the games are different, but really, this tuxracer is 1/4 the game that even spyro is (even after they enahnced the GPL version).
then along that same thought, it's the act of installing the software which binds you to the EULA, not buying it. prior to installing it, you're only bound by standard copyright laws since you haven't entered into their contract. you're free to buy it, and re-sell it or even publish benchmark statistics about how the software might have performed had you actually installed it. whatever as long as you've never installed it. this is still a major problem with pre-installs that the OEM's will go ahead and agree you to.
along the plane ticket thought, you can buy a non-refundable, non-transferable plane ticket. kinda like buying OEM software, eh?
i agree the merchants eat their mistake. why should the cc company have to verify who is using the card? that's the responsibility of the personing calling in the card. that's like making a bank responsible for someone writing out stolen checks at the local wal-mart. the merchant is the one who's suppose to know that he's going to get his money.
maybe you would suggest having fingerprint verification systems in place for all merchants, such that the credit card companies could then verify the person using the card?
i'de personally pay about 5$, definately
anyone considering a fork on the gpl source to enhance it up to what these folks will probably charge 19.99$ for in the store? linux needs more kid-friendly games of this sort (though you're not going to be playing it with a non-opengl video card), but if linux users can't d/l it for
just my 0.02$
the stable kernels do compile. linus compiles it, tests it, and releases it. it's even tested by others who use the "pre" releases. they certainly can't test _every_ possible build option to be sure that it builds every which way. i guess some test script could probably do that, but it might take quite some time to build all those different kernels.
QA is for people who use the beta release for RH using their beta RPM kernel. if you're rolling your own, you're in the development stages.
so, the stable releases do compile (get rh source RPM's for that), the development releases, just like dev releases of all other software. it _might_ not even compile for you, it _might_ give you file system corruption, it _might_....
i'm not so sure that inviting more people to debates will solve the core issue, although it's certainly a head in the right direction. those in power will stay in power as long as they're being fed lots of money. money buys ad time, people to run a campaign, etc. those who don't have the massive financial backing just can't get their message out as the other candidates can. hell, even incumbant candidates have an inheriant advantage since they're being naturally followed by the media. i really think we should limit the amount of campaign $$ each candidate can have. force the candidates to go door to door to get their message out. force them to meet in "town halls" many times to invite the public to hear their debates. let's get some _real_ politicians that will work for the voters, and not those groups paying 2500$ per plate for a nice dinner with the person.
the us gov't doesn't have time to deal with the population. it's too busy handling the lobbyists, having expensive fundraisers, etc. we should consider it a privledge that our gov't takes the time to give public speaches and appearances.
at least those who haven't kept up with all the latest games and skills needed to play them can get something usefull out of that Xbox other than the dvd ad on.
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interesting point the author makes.. smoking _good_ crack can lead to deficincies in software. who woulda thought...
(note to ms executives: start feeding the clans the _bad_ crack, not the _good_ crack)
isn't that the function of management? to manage th employees/lowlifes doing the actual work? that and large expense accounts on lavish "business" trips. if so, i would certainly be extremely quick to blame mgmt. in this case it seems be be limited to international boundries, so maybe this problem has go to go to the top of the house, whomever that may be.
from what i've seen there are many reasons to avoid a broswer type platform. first, the widgets available on a browser are WAY too limited. a simple database maintenance application via a browser becomes painfull. can i get a grid control? a list control, etc without using applets? second, the interface lacks extensive interactiveness.
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if only borrowing the song didn't involve copying the song. how about we all just put our songs on a global file share, and access/play them from there. oh but wait, the song is still being copied from the share, through my mp3 codec, on through the sound card, out the speaker and into the air. that's a hell of a lot of places that song gets copied to.
let's just end this now and make music, cd's, software, speakers, computers all illegal.
i wouldn't exactly say they go out of their way to create problems. that makes it sound like they purposely create problems. like they WANT the problems. maybe they just have to follow a schedule so the code and or general design starts to get a little messy sometimes?
congradulations! i'm sure i can fairly accurately say that _most_ of us who own cd-writers DO burn music cd's (in addition to the divx avi's and slim system backup). anything from just a mixed audio cd to a cd full of mp3's (sorry ogg, my dvd player doesn't play ogg files just yet) for plopping in the stereo. weather we're buring music we bought in a store is irrelevant, we're still burning music because those cdroms are dirt cheap.
nope, that wasn't obvious, but it's an interesting spin.
it can as easily be construed that by them saying that their cd's will be copy protected, that they plan to do it (or plan to have it done). we all make plans that we never get around to implementing, right? i'm sure M$ has planned to release a hightly stable and secure operating system every release since 1993. weather their plan was met is questionable
rushed it out? you think? maybe you didn't see THE story on slashdot a couple days back? seems the power of FUD makes even giant corporations respond.
very good point! the phone/cable companies aren't the only ones raping coporate america. look at industries such as the: hotels, airlines, auto rental, hardware, software, etc, etc.
the rpm point is a very valid. if the package is advertised as a rh 7.1 package, it should install on a clean rh 7.1 box. on the other side though, someone, anyone could submit a "better" rh 7.1 rpm that will work. hell, even RH has problems releasing rpms which work on their system (kde rpm hell anyone?)
nothing wrong with posting anonymously, just most people usually browse at +1 to filter garbage comments. do you like to weed through trash to look for treasure?
i have to assume your workstations are running the mac os? sorry, i don't know much about the os at all, not it's software. is this reported bug even a bug for mac os? isn't there a version of opera that doesn't expire? oh wait you're running a demo version. next you talk about loading NN on your work stations. if there is a version of NN that works on your system, why haven't you?
and how is this patch going to get on people's machines the don't know how to install a friggin operating system? they just double-click on the blue "e" on the desktop and type where they want to go - presto after a few minutes of dialing the page shows up. patches are great for people who are aware enough. nimbda, code red, etc all had patches BEFORE or just shortly after the virus hit. why did it then infect tons of computers, annoy almost every single web server log file, and contine for months? m$ software is intended for an audience of people who don't know jack about computers, and in that respect they should be held legally and financially obligated to provide bullet-proof software. NN and others are intended for those who know better so should be expempt. any other industry which identifies a bug in it's product issues a public recall of the product to correct the problem (say a finds that it had a line of DVD's that the laser was set too high at the factory, those would be recalled yesterday)
who was the one who "taught" them how to use the IE 5.0 browser? who was the one who originally installed the ie 5.0 browser? a 30-60 minute crash course? they alreay have it at home? what?
if security and choice were choice were important, both these issues could have been mute from the get-go. had the initial install included NN or Opera or whatever as the default browser, and no noticible signs of the IE browser, these issues would be mute.
M$ _should_ ship a quality product, they're not obligated to as far as i know. IT, the computer tech, whoever is responsible to know what software they're providing and weather it meets the technical and functional requirements of the users. Weather or not this is neglect or neglegance on the part of M$ is usually left for the courts to decide.
you are absolutely right (done it myself). and why should we pay for music we can get for free? because it's immoral? i think we've grown up not paying for music. those big boom boxes that were very popular back in the 80's all HAD to have 2 tape decks for dubbing. noone wanted one with only one tape deck. we could borrow a friend's tape and dub it. the best ones were the ones with fast dubbing. now the sharing has become more anonymous and easily available, but it's still the same concept. we're all talking about laws designed around the "intent" of the device. these boom boxes were certainly intended to copy music. how is it that they were sold at all? their sole intent was around making legal backups or mixed tapes?
>And also, if you take a look at search statistics on these networks, the vast majority of people are looking for the latest Britney Spears single, not for garage bands.
maybe the searches are of smiilar proportion as the actual album sales/popularity? why would i search for a garage band who's name i don't know at all? now i go to a show at the local small club and see a band i like, i might search for their music. the fact is, people want compressed music for thier pc's. the music industry completely missed the bus on that one. people QUICKLY found a way to exchange their compressed media. again, the media conglomorates missed the bus. if there's a market for a product, and no-one's giving it legally, guess what, it's going to come to the black market. is the RIAA/MPAA going to "win this fight" any better than the 20-30 year old "war on drugs" we've been waging here in the states? what happened durring the prohibition? did people stop drinking alcohol?
a linux point release would compare to what, a m$ patch? or maybe increment version (win98 - win98se?). in any case, it's quite probable that the patch/upgrade results in large changes in operation of the kernel (i recall NT4 sp1 -x having LOTS of strange incompatibility issues. software would work with NT4sp2 and only that). was there something other than the kernel Vm that was a drastic change? did this change impact binary compatibility with applications?
i agree that linux is probably less standards compliant then other flavors, but i guess you'll get that in a truly open market. it's not that linux isn't working to be standards compliant, no one's coughing up the dough explicitly for it right now thats all.
it needs commercial software, sure, but not commercial rapists. 20$ for this game is way out of line. sure it's "cute", but so is spyro on my playstation. sure the games are different, but really, this tuxracer is 1/4 the game that even spyro is (even after they enahnced the GPL version).
then along that same thought, it's the act of installing the software which binds you to the EULA, not buying it. prior to installing it, you're only bound by standard copyright laws since you haven't entered into their contract. you're free to buy it, and re-sell it or even publish benchmark statistics about how the software might have performed had you actually installed it. whatever as long as you've never installed it. this is still a major problem with pre-installs that the OEM's will go ahead and agree you to.
along the plane ticket thought, you can buy a non-refundable, non-transferable plane ticket. kinda like buying OEM software, eh?i agree the merchants eat their mistake. why should the cc company have to verify who is using the card? that's the responsibility of the personing calling in the card. that's like making a bank responsible for someone writing out stolen checks at the local wal-mart. the merchant is the one who's suppose to know that he's going to get his money.
maybe you would suggest having fingerprint verification systems in place for all merchants, such that the credit card companies could then verify the person using the card?
i'de personally pay about 5$, definately
anyone considering a fork on the gpl source to enhance it up to what these folks will probably charge 19.99$ for in the store? linux needs more kid-friendly games of this sort (though you're not going to be playing it with a non-opengl video card), but if linux users can't d/l it for
just my 0.02$
the stable kernels do compile. linus compiles it, tests it, and releases it. it's even tested by others who use the "pre" releases. they certainly can't test _every_ possible build option to be sure that it builds every which way. i guess some test script could probably do that, but it might take quite some time to build all those different kernels.
....
QA is for people who use the beta release for RH using their beta RPM kernel. if you're rolling your own, you're in the development stages.
so, the stable releases do compile (get rh source RPM's for that), the development releases, just like dev releases of all other software. it _might_ not even compile for you, it _might_ give you file system corruption, it _might_
i'm not so sure that inviting more people to debates will solve the core issue, although it's certainly a head in the right direction. those in power will stay in power as long as they're being fed lots of money. money buys ad time, people to run a campaign, etc. those who don't have the massive financial backing just can't get their message out as the other candidates can. hell, even incumbant candidates have an inheriant advantage since they're being naturally followed by the media. i really think we should limit the amount of campaign $$ each candidate can have. force the candidates to go door to door to get their message out. force them to meet in "town halls" many times to invite the public to hear their debates. let's get some _real_ politicians that will work for the voters, and not those groups paying 2500$ per plate for a nice dinner with the person.
the us gov't doesn't have time to deal with the population. it's too busy handling the lobbyists, having expensive fundraisers, etc. we should consider it a privledge that our gov't takes the time to give public speaches and appearances.
at least those who haven't kept up with all the latest games and skills needed to play them can get something usefull out of that Xbox other than the dvd ad on.
interesting point the author makes.. smoking _good_ crack can lead to deficincies in software. who woulda thought...
(note to ms executives: start feeding the clans the _bad_ crack, not the _good_ crack)
i agree that bandwidth isn't free. but 29.99 is nothing? to watch a trailer, no matter how many times you get to watch it, it's quite steep.
isn't that the function of management? to manage th employees/lowlifes doing the actual work? that and large expense accounts on lavish "business" trips. if so, i would certainly be extremely quick to blame mgmt. in this case it seems be be limited to international boundries, so maybe this problem has go to go to the top of the house, whomever that may be.
from what i've seen there are many reasons to avoid a broswer type platform. first, the widgets available on a browser are WAY too limited. a simple database maintenance application via a browser becomes painfull. can i get a grid control? a list control, etc without using applets? second, the interface lacks extensive interactiveness.