I never said that Apple needs to start supporting WMP, I said the chipset on the iPod supported it. Also I think if Apple opens of the AAC encoding to other companies that some of these companies like MusicNow, Walmart, Napster, etc. could offer both formats.
As the Linux guys love to say it's only a good thing when there is more compitition.
Good points from you all, but I sorted of expected the wacko Apple users to come out of the framework when you bash the only thing that is keeping Apple alive. iPod is a great product, however they need to support other formats, so that people have a choice. Isn't that one of the overall underlying themes of/. the right to choose.
You can come back and tell me in two years if I am wrong or right, but I beleive if Apple doesn't change it's practices the iPod is going to go the way of the Mac. A great product, but a very small market share.
You all dance around this notion that people want something that just works. But I imagine many of you are also the first people who jump on Microsoft for locking people into applications. And many of you are out there saying Linux is ready for the masses, when in actuality it's not. I am not saying that Apple isn't ready for the masses or that iPod isn't a good product. I am saying once you own an iPod and start trying to find music on iTunes you realize that, there is not that much there at least the songs that I was looking for. They may have the biggest music archive, but they don't have _all_ the songs, and the WMP players have about 10 different companies they can go and buy at.
P.S. Sorry about the spelling in this post and the previous one, it is not one of my strong points and I was writing it with one hand while sipping my coffee this morning.
I really hope Creative takes Apple down on this. How many times does Apple need to learn that people don't want lock-in solutions. Where you buy there player and are locked into their music service. I mean I can't even re-download songs I already own. Most if not all of the WMP online music providers let you re-sync your songs. Maybe this is because Microsoft has a better DRM than Apple and this can be done.
But back on point, Apple needs to stop these lock-in practices, they tried to do it in the early days of the desktop computer, and now they are again trying to do it now. And like the late 80's and early 90's Apple started out real strong, because they had an amazing product, but soon people realized that there is nothing out there for them when choosing Apple. I beleive you will see that in the next couple years with iPod.
So Creative smack Apple around a little and maybe they will start supporting Ogg Vorbis and WMP (which their chipset in the iPod already supports).
I agree that T-Mobile should be fined for the lack of security and anybody that has a T-Mobile should be able to drop the account with out the early fees. But setting up another level of bueracracy to do something is never the answer, and the data was probably protected by some kind of standards. But as we have seen in the last week even an Open Standard such as Linux has holes in it. I don't know what T-Mobile uses, but this problem was due to a whole in security not a lack of security.
There is always going to be some enterprising person that can get by any measure of security that you put in place, so setting up more buercracy to look at standards just makes it easier, because now the world knows how you store/protect data and thus makes it easier to find exploits.
I agree, they said in this article that this would crush VB, well I beleive VB.Net has already done that. This is the clasic example of one of the major problems with many OSS projects. "Too little, too late." This would have been a good alternative to Windows, first if it worked on Windows, and second if it was pre-2002. But since neither is true, this is just somebody's attempt at saying "look we have finally cought up to Microsoft.".
You have to modify you code alot in Java to get it to work in both Windows and Linux. Ever heard of code once test everywhere? That came from Java. The only problem that Mono has is the lack of IO support for Windows, but luckily if they didn't use the Windows GTK# there isn't going to be a problem, and these companies are activily developing technology to take advantage of the System.Windows interface to map to QT# and GTK#. Give it another year and you will see code once, test once. Something Java still is not able to claim.
Wow I really expect much more from this statement, from the title I thought you were going to actually talk about the productivity of the person. Let me ask you this how did you get more productive on Linux? Was there a program? Was there a technology? Also what about productivity that this study doesn't take into account for is the productivity lost when switching to something that has a huge learning curve associated with it.
What you want people on slashdot to be non-biased?
I totally agree with you, they have an attitude of "anything but Microsoft", much the same stance they took towards "anybody but Bush". I am starting to see a real mind set with some people, and most of it is based on a perceived hype.
I am a conservative, however I hate these groups that give me and the conservative cause a bad name by trying to force censorship on people. I still beleive the best sensor is an involved parent. I also don't nessisarly like what Howard Stern says, or even listen to him, but I will still fight for his right to be on the air. Just as I would hope the people on the libral side of the same argument would fight for Rush Limbaugh and his right to be on the air.
If you don't like something turn it off, and beleive that there is enough people out there that think like you. If personalities like Rush and Stern, loose audiance they loose advertisers, and when they loose advertisers they are forced to do one of two things, change or keep on down the same loosing path.
Hurt people though the use of free enterprise not an omnious-government-agenency.
Yes but stations outside the cities 100 years ago, are probably going to be in the cities now a days. And I doubt they have enough money to keep moving them.
I don't beleive anything from these scientists anymore. They have been wrong so many times, a reasearcher from so university that I can't remember right now, found that the sun is responsible for most of the green house effect. Only about ~5% was from humans. In addition a good example is Mt. St. Helens that has been erupting for 3 months now. Apparently it has dumpt as much sulfer-dioxide in the air in those 3 months, as California over the past 3 years.
People need to wake up and realize that the earths climate does change, and it does change rapidly at points in times (say over 100 - 500 years). Let me give you an example, they say in the US over the past 100 years the average temp has risen by 1 degree. That sounds horrible in it self, until you realize that all the tracking stations are in major cities, and over the last 100 years what has happened to cities. YES, they have grown, and by growing the laid more pavement, and pavement keeps more heat trapped, than does dirt.
This is just european liberals trying to get money for the new year to continue their useless research. That is why this was released, I do agree that the temp is getting higher for seasons, and colder for others, but in fairness we don't have anything to compare our current flucuations to. This is probably totally normal.
One last thing: We have to realize that the earth has lived through much more than humans. It lived through a molton lava period, it lived through a period where the sky was black from an astroid hitting the planet and whipping out a ton of life, it lived through an ice age. So maybe we are just reaching a peek in the temp levels before then start moving back down to an ice age.
I thought crippled people were only going to walk, through embryonic stem cells, if John Kerry was elected?:) Go figure it happened with Cord Stem Cells, under a conservative prime minister in Australia. I guess politians lied to us, BIG SHOCKHER THERE.
Ha ha ha... I bet you are the funny guy thats running around getting the Honda, and Toyota confused in their posts. Still I know you knew what I was saying, and if you have ever diven along the highways in upstate NY you will know what I am talking about.
Nope not mullet, that is like me sterotyping you as gay because you hate SUV's. I actually have a great paying job in King of Prussia, which is right out side of philly. I like the 99 mustang that I have because it is an awsome peice of machinery.
Luckily, with the rate of increases that won't be for another 40 years. It's currently only 1.80, which is cheaper, perspectivly, than it was in 1980. Gasonline has stayed pretty even with inflation, so I don't every persee a problem when I am going to have trouble.
I can't wait to see the first Hummer-Zap collision on the news. Or maybe a tracktor trailer-Zap collision. And you know the Zap isn't getting out of the way by speeding up, with a 60 hp engine.
Gas isn't that expensive, and my Ford Mustang GT Convertable, eats gas just like any car with a V8. And since it gets really cold up here in the north, I like to think of it as my way of keeping the planet warm.
Give me a Ford V8 Mustang GT Convertable any day over this peice of crap car. I DON'T WANT OR NEED A CLOWN CAR. The rest of the world minus the certain part that this guy was talking about is going to have to realize that not all cultures are the same, and some like power, speed, and a good look. I also don't want a car that tops out at 90+mph, if it can even get that high, and I can't imagin anybody out side of the city will actually buy this, because if it gets hit on the road by any of the current cars it's going to get obliderated.
And since when is 60 hp, 3-cylinder, rear-mounted turbo engine a performance feature? My mustang has four times the horse power, and it can get up to about 140 if I really push the thing. So I really don't see how this car is going to make it over 55 mph, even in good conditions.
Also as Click and Clack, the car guys from Boston say, never buy a French car. I don't care what your Peugeot can do, because it's still one of the worst engineered cars on the face of the planet. You put that thing next to a Ford Model T and tell them to race my money is on the Model T.
There are so many things wrong with this, and I am sure this car will sell, because there is a nich market for everything in America, but don't count on this taking the suberbs by storm.
I think since Google is now at the top is taking pre-emptive action to limit liability for law suits. Much like we have seen Microsoft do in the past. All those other search engines that were mentioned operate in the US, so why if the "administration" is doing this, why would they only target one search engine?
America was locked in an epic struggle for the battle of the most powerful man in the world. People, families, states, and countries, were split between two men, but in the end there was one man left standing.... In the end the American people stood up proudly and, with a big grin, gave a big Texas sized middle finger to all the liberal Europeans and Michael Moore democrats out there.
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I never said that Apple needs to start supporting WMP, I said the chipset on the iPod supported it. Also I think if Apple opens of the AAC encoding to other companies that some of these companies like MusicNow, Walmart, Napster, etc. could offer both formats.
As the Linux guys love to say it's only a good thing when there is more compitition.
Good points from you all, but I sorted of expected the wacko Apple users to come out of the framework when you bash the only thing that is keeping Apple alive. iPod is a great product, however they need to support other formats, so that people have a choice. Isn't that one of the overall underlying themes of /. the right to choose.
You can come back and tell me in two years if I am wrong or right, but I beleive if Apple doesn't change it's practices the iPod is going to go the way of the Mac. A great product, but a very small market share.
You all dance around this notion that people want something that just works. But I imagine many of you are also the first people who jump on Microsoft for locking people into applications. And many of you are out there saying Linux is ready for the masses, when in actuality it's not. I am not saying that Apple isn't ready for the masses or that iPod isn't a good product. I am saying once you own an iPod and start trying to find music on iTunes you realize that, there is not that much there at least the songs that I was looking for. They may have the biggest music archive, but they don't have _all_ the songs, and the WMP players have about 10 different companies they can go and buy at.
P.S. Sorry about the spelling in this post and the previous one, it is not one of my strong points and I was writing it with one hand while sipping my coffee this morning.
At least the writer of this article isn't biased. :) "lessen the world's reliance on sucky legacy platforms, etc. etc."
I really hope Creative takes Apple down on this. How many times does Apple need to learn that people don't want lock-in solutions. Where you buy there player and are locked into their music service. I mean I can't even re-download songs I already own. Most if not all of the WMP online music providers let you re-sync your songs. Maybe this is because Microsoft has a better DRM than Apple and this can be done.
But back on point, Apple needs to stop these lock-in practices, they tried to do it in the early days of the desktop computer, and now they are again trying to do it now. And like the late 80's and early 90's Apple started out real strong, because they had an amazing product, but soon people realized that there is nothing out there for them when choosing Apple. I beleive you will see that in the next couple years with iPod.
So Creative smack Apple around a little and maybe they will start supporting Ogg Vorbis and WMP (which their chipset in the iPod already supports).
I agree that T-Mobile should be fined for the lack of security and anybody that has a T-Mobile should be able to drop the account with out the early fees. But setting up another level of bueracracy to do something is never the answer, and the data was probably protected by some kind of standards. But as we have seen in the last week even an Open Standard such as Linux has holes in it. I don't know what T-Mobile uses, but this problem was due to a whole in security not a lack of security.
There is always going to be some enterprising person that can get by any measure of security that you put in place, so setting up more buercracy to look at standards just makes it easier, because now the world knows how you store/protect data and thus makes it easier to find exploits.
I agree, they said in this article that this would crush VB, well I beleive VB.Net has already done that. This is the clasic example of one of the major problems with many OSS projects. "Too little, too late." This would have been a good alternative to Windows, first if it worked on Windows, and second if it was pre-2002. But since neither is true, this is just somebody's attempt at saying "look we have finally cought up to Microsoft.".
You have to modify you code alot in Java to get it to work in both Windows and Linux. Ever heard of code once test everywhere? That came from Java. The only problem that Mono has is the lack of IO support for Windows, but luckily if they didn't use the Windows GTK# there isn't going to be a problem, and these companies are activily developing technology to take advantage of the System.Windows interface to map to QT# and GTK#. Give it another year and you will see code once, test once. Something Java still is not able to claim.
Wow I really expect much more from this statement, from the title I thought you were going to actually talk about the productivity of the person. Let me ask you this how did you get more productive on Linux? Was there a program? Was there a technology? Also what about productivity that this study doesn't take into account for is the productivity lost when switching to something that has a huge learning curve associated with it.
What you want people on slashdot to be non-biased?
I totally agree with you, they have an attitude of "anything but Microsoft", much the same stance they took towards "anybody but Bush". I am starting to see a real mind set with some people, and most of it is based on a perceived hype.
Since when is 750 a massive amount of peole. Kodak was laying off 1000 people every 4 months up in Rochester, and about another 2000 worldwide.
I am a conservative, however I hate these groups that give me and the conservative cause a bad name by trying to force censorship on people. I still beleive the best sensor is an involved parent. I also don't nessisarly like what Howard Stern says, or even listen to him, but I will still fight for his right to be on the air. Just as I would hope the people on the libral side of the same argument would fight for Rush Limbaugh and his right to be on the air.
If you don't like something turn it off, and beleive that there is enough people out there that think like you. If personalities like Rush and Stern, loose audiance they loose advertisers, and when they loose advertisers they are forced to do one of two things, change or keep on down the same loosing path.
Hurt people though the use of free enterprise not an omnious-government-agenency.
Yes but stations outside the cities 100 years ago, are probably going to be in the cities now a days. And I doubt they have enough money to keep moving them.
I don't beleive anything from these scientists anymore. They have been wrong so many times, a reasearcher from so university that I can't remember right now, found that the sun is responsible for most of the green house effect. Only about ~5% was from humans. In addition a good example is Mt. St. Helens that has been erupting for 3 months now. Apparently it has dumpt as much sulfer-dioxide in the air in those 3 months, as California over the past 3 years.
People need to wake up and realize that the earths climate does change, and it does change rapidly at points in times (say over 100 - 500 years). Let me give you an example, they say in the US over the past 100 years the average temp has risen by 1 degree. That sounds horrible in it self, until you realize that all the tracking stations are in major cities, and over the last 100 years what has happened to cities. YES, they have grown, and by growing the laid more pavement, and pavement keeps more heat trapped, than does dirt.
This is just european liberals trying to get money for the new year to continue their useless research. That is why this was released, I do agree that the temp is getting higher for seasons, and colder for others, but in fairness we don't have anything to compare our current flucuations to. This is probably totally normal.
One last thing: We have to realize that the earth has lived through much more than humans. It lived through a molton lava period, it lived through a period where the sky was black from an astroid hitting the planet and whipping out a ton of life, it lived through an ice age. So maybe we are just reaching a peek in the temp levels before then start moving back down to an ice age.
I thought crippled people were only going to walk, through embryonic stem cells, if John Kerry was elected? :) Go figure it happened with Cord Stem Cells, under a conservative prime minister in Australia. I guess politians lied to us, BIG SHOCKHER THERE.
Ha ha ha... I bet you are the funny guy thats running around getting the Honda, and Toyota confused in their posts. Still I know you knew what I was saying, and if you have ever diven along the highways in upstate NY you will know what I am talking about.
Nope not mullet, that is like me sterotyping you as gay because you hate SUV's. I actually have a great paying job in King of Prussia, which is right out side of philly. I like the 99 mustang that I have because it is an awsome peice of machinery.
Luckily, with the rate of increases that won't be for another 40 years. It's currently only 1.80, which is cheaper, perspectivly, than it was in 1980. Gasonline has stayed pretty even with inflation, so I don't every persee a problem when I am going to have trouble.
It still looks like a clown car.
I don't see many bicycles or mothers with children going down the highway at >60mph.
Reading your statement, all that I could think of is the big red spots you see on the road after a 18 wheeler hits a deer going 70 mph.
I can't wait to see the first Hummer-Zap collision on the news. Or maybe a tracktor trailer-Zap collision. And you know the Zap isn't getting out of the way by speeding up, with a 60 hp engine.
Gas isn't that expensive, and my Ford Mustang GT Convertable, eats gas just like any car with a V8. And since it gets really cold up here in the north, I like to think of it as my way of keeping the planet warm.
Give me a Ford V8 Mustang GT Convertable any day over this peice of crap car. I DON'T WANT OR NEED A CLOWN CAR. The rest of the world minus the certain part that this guy was talking about is going to have to realize that not all cultures are the same, and some like power, speed, and a good look. I also don't want a car that tops out at 90+mph, if it can even get that high, and I can't imagin anybody out side of the city will actually buy this, because if it gets hit on the road by any of the current cars it's going to get obliderated.
And since when is 60 hp, 3-cylinder, rear-mounted turbo engine a performance feature? My mustang has four times the horse power, and it can get up to about 140 if I really push the thing. So I really don't see how this car is going to make it over 55 mph, even in good conditions.
Also as Click and Clack, the car guys from Boston say, never buy a French car. I don't care what your Peugeot can do, because it's still one of the worst engineered cars on the face of the planet. You put that thing next to a Ford Model T and tell them to race my money is on the Model T.
There are so many things wrong with this, and I am sure this car will sell, because there is a nich market for everything in America, but don't count on this taking the suberbs by storm.
If I remember right they already did this. And we are now using it's predisesor.
I think since Google is now at the top is taking pre-emptive action to limit liability for law suits. Much like we have seen Microsoft do in the past. All those other search engines that were mentioned operate in the US, so why if the "administration" is doing this, why would they only target one search engine?
America was locked in an epic struggle for the battle of the most powerful man in the world. People, families, states, and countries, were split between two men, but in the end there was one man left standing. ... In the end the American people stood up proudly and, with a big grin, gave a big Texas sized middle finger to all the liberal Europeans and Michael Moore democrats out there.