Heck, 25+ years ago I had two different chemistry sets and even then my Dad (a chemical engineer) gave me that "*sniff* when I was a kid they had REAL chemistry sets!" bit.
I believe him too since he made real explosives and blew a chunk outa Grandpa's wall 40 years before - seriously. All I could do is burn stuff with the alcohol burners.
My point is, they damn things were pretty tame 25 years ago, what ya can't make copper from cupric sulfate now?
If you're brought into a "study" (in a "controlled environment") and asked to "conduct routine online banking activities" wouldn't you have a resonable expectation of security?
I mean where do you think they got these 67 BofA customers? They probably asked at a branch. They the folks know that this whole thing is at least done with the blessing of BofA.
Plus, I can't imagine the study administrators said things like, "and be sure to mind all the normal security practices" for fear that might bias the group.
If the indutry analyst's wife likes that type of thing, then she's passing up a lucrative way to leverage her operational experience in a dynamic and verically stimulated market.
Not assemble the car, but have a basic understanding of how it works. Engine, air filter, oil goes in there... water in there.... Do you know how to change a tire?
Yes, I also believe a "normal everyday user" should understand what a "hard drive" is and by pulling it out and looking at one it might help them visualize just what goes on in that big scary box on their desk.
Wasn't OO open before Sun bought them? (Honest question, I don't remember)
As far as Sun opening UltraSPARC, have you actually tried to get UltraSPARC documentation? You have to (or had to, it's been a while) sign an NDA. Folks that isn't "open".
Sun also donated code to OSS projects and forced decidedly non-open license changes (ECC code to OpenSSL comes to mind).
A while back -- pre-SCO -- OpenBSD did a "license audit". I don't have the list in front of me but a sizable number of reasonably well-known open source projects had questionable licences. Theo really did ask nicely and got most of them changed.
TCP Wrappers IIRC was one of them, pppd another (again IIRC).
Like Theo or hate him, he's done more for the Open Source community than just piss people off.
It's not that the Foo Corp is using OpenSSH w/o paying Theo or the OpenBSD/OpenSSH crowd. No one (including Theo) has a problem with that.
It's that some companies *cough*Sun*cough* make all kinds of noises about being "open" and "supporting open source" and market the crap out of it purely because it's the latest buzzword, when in reality they just don't give a shit.
Where I work our OSS hating Windows and Solaris admins are fscking slobs. I mean, damn, the ass crack on those fat bastards would put your average plumber to shame.
I OTOH wear Dockers and generally dress in "business casual" (unless it's storming, then the (nice, clean) bluejeans come out)) and where I work am esentially an OSS martyr. My peers think OSS (often just called "freeware") is worthless, amatuer crap (even though it powers the core of so many of our commercial systems).
No, what's holding back OSS in my neck of the woods is fear, simple as that. You see any idiot can call Microsoft or Sun when a server isn't behaving. If it's Debian or OpenBSD you have to do something radical... you have to think.
Because the GPL is one of the/. sacred cows, like Linux itself. Speaking out against it is like, well, speaking out agaist the American government. You're not with us so you must be a Microsoft shill and the mod point for that are not pretty!
Valid legalese is money. My lawyer can beat up your lawyer.
All those words do exactly the opposite of what you think they do, each one is another "attack vector," if you will, for a well paid lawyer.
This license may very well "attempt to uphold the traditions of the FSF" but will ultimatly bring them down over an arguement along the lines of "depends on what the definition of 'is' is."
The BSD and MIT licenses, while accomplishing something very different, are short and non-ambiguous and therefore (more) defensible.
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This is why you need smart, capable managers to manage your smart, capable employees. Anything less and you're asking for trouble.
This sounds like the real deal Holyfield...
Rutabagas coming in nicely... BOOYAH!
During the bursting of the bubble I suddenly found myself with all sorts of extra time to spend on Open Source projects. Not so today.
I bet that a recession would be *good* for OSS.
Heck, 25+ years ago I had two different chemistry sets and even then my Dad (a chemical engineer) gave me that "*sniff* when I was a kid they had REAL chemistry sets!" bit.
I believe him too since he made real explosives and blew a chunk outa Grandpa's wall 40 years before - seriously. All I could do is burn stuff with the alcohol burners.
My point is, they damn things were pretty tame 25 years ago, what ya can't make copper from cupric sulfate now?
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Ok, no shit. It lights matches and pops balloons for God's sake.
Pins pop balloons too. Where are all the warnings to not poke pins in my eyes?
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If you're brought into a "study" (in a "controlled environment") and asked to "conduct routine online banking activities" wouldn't you have a resonable expectation of security?
I mean where do you think they got these 67 BofA customers? They probably asked at a branch. They the folks know that this whole thing is at least done with the blessing of BofA.
Plus, I can't imagine the study administrators said things like, "and be sure to mind all the normal security practices" for fear that might bias the group.
This "study" sounds flawed.
I think this was covered before: U.S. Cities Don't Make the Intelligence Cut
If it's outside school, shouldn't it then be the domain of police and/or lawyers? Libel, defamation and assault come to mind.
Of course, this would require those same parents who sue MySpace for not watching their kids.
Would you like fries with that?
Would you like fries with that?
"Whoa, deja vu"
Why can't I have a 1 CD "minimal" install? I installed FC4 with a single CD and installed what I wanted from there. Can't do that with FC5.
And why does it install pointless crap like ISDN and Bluetooth in a "minimal" install?
Bloat is not a feature.
Does any one know, is there an actual tech company at SCO, or is it just a bunch of lawyers now?
I ask because I need some new hardware and I figure there ought to be a killer auction when that ship finally goes under.
Your point?
If the indutry analyst's wife likes that type of thing, then she's passing up a lucrative way to leverage her operational experience in a dynamic and verically stimulated market.
Works for me.
Not assemble the car, but have a basic understanding of how it works. Engine, air filter, oil goes in there... water in there.... Do you know how to change a tire?
Yes, I also believe a "normal everyday user" should understand what a "hard drive" is and by pulling it out and looking at one it might help them visualize just what goes on in that big scary box on their desk.
Wasn't OO open before Sun bought them? (Honest question, I don't remember)
As far as Sun opening UltraSPARC, have you actually tried to get UltraSPARC documentation? You have to (or had to, it's been a while) sign an NDA. Folks that isn't "open".
Sun also donated code to OSS projects and forced decidedly non-open license changes (ECC code to OpenSSL comes to mind).
OSS, Sun is not your friend.
A while back -- pre-SCO -- OpenBSD did a "license audit". I don't have the list in front of me but a sizable number of reasonably well-known open source projects had questionable licences. Theo really did ask nicely and got most of them changed.
TCP Wrappers IIRC was one of them, pppd another (again IIRC).
Like Theo or hate him, he's done more for the Open Source community than just piss people off.
It's not that the Foo Corp is using OpenSSH w/o paying Theo or the OpenBSD/OpenSSH crowd. No one (including Theo) has a problem with that.
It's that some companies *cough*Sun*cough* make all kinds of noises about being "open" and "supporting open source" and market the crap out of it purely because it's the latest buzzword, when in reality they just don't give a shit.
That's what gets to Theo... and others.
Where I work our OSS hating Windows and Solaris admins are fscking slobs. I mean, damn, the ass crack on those fat bastards would put your average plumber to shame.
I OTOH wear Dockers and generally dress in "business casual" (unless it's storming, then the (nice, clean) bluejeans come out)) and where I work am esentially an OSS martyr. My peers think OSS (often just called "freeware") is worthless, amatuer crap (even though it powers the core of so many of our commercial systems).
No, what's holding back OSS in my neck of the woods is fear, simple as that. You see any idiot can call Microsoft or Sun when a server isn't behaving. If it's Debian or OpenBSD you have to do something radical... you have to think.
But how much of that was attributed to the ground water pollution from fiascos like Fairchild?
Or the fact that the actual diagnosis for "Autism" changed in 1994 and the "new" diagnosis too about 5 tyears to catch on.
Modern "Autism" appeared in the DSM-IV in 1994. Before then these kids (aka me) were just called nerds.
Because the GPL is one of the /. sacred cows, like Linux itself. Speaking out against it is like, well, speaking out agaist the American government. You're not with us so you must be a Microsoft shill and the mod point for that are not pretty!
Valid legalese is money. My lawyer can beat up your lawyer.
All those words do exactly the opposite of what you think they do, each one is another "attack vector," if you will, for a well paid lawyer.
This license may very well "attempt to uphold the traditions of the FSF" but will ultimatly bring them down over an arguement along the lines of "depends on what the definition of 'is' is."
The BSD and MIT licenses, while accomplishing something very different, are short and non-ambiguous and therefore (more) defensible.
Shouldn't the jury box and the voter box be switched?