But, they were not begging. They were not asking MS for a donation. MS came to them, acted like they should be grateful, when in fact, even though their budget and plans were publicized, it would be obvious that the MS offer was unworkable.
It's like I walk up to some poor person in a shelter and say "Look, I'm willing to help you here, see how nice I am? I'm going to let you stay in my beach house in St. Kitts, but you will have to find your own way to fly there, and you'll have to get some decent clothes, and feed yourslef when you are there. See how generous I am?
OpenSSL is a completely different project with no direct relation to OpenBSD.
OpenBSD audits & builds it's own versions of all packages it ships with, including removing libraries and/or features from those packages that go against OpenBSD's licensing policies.
The point of code audits is to TRY to find bugs; it is not a de-facto guaranteed way to ensure there are NO bugs. Code that is audited for bugs generally has less bugs than code that is not.
Horse betting does indeed work the way he described; there is no house decision in it; the odds start out even and adjust in direct, exact proportion to how people are betting.
This is in sharp contrast to a regular sports bookmaker, who sets the odds however he sees fit (though of course it is based partially on how people are wagering)
It's not just about that. Microsoft wants it's foot in the door by donating Office. These people are working on a small budget, and absolutely cannot afford the infrastructure needed to even USE that software. It's hardly a "gift".
Given the amounts of money MS rolls out, if MS wanted a foot in the door in Nambibia, they could easily afford to network & outfit the entire country's school system.. THEN they would surely listen. Maybe.
yes... we've all heard it a million times before, right?
Let's just re-cap what it means though:
The RFCs, ICANN, the DNS system, and so on, none of these are definitive authorities on anything. The reason the internet (a large collection of networks) works is because we all follow roughly the same standards; we all agree to follow what icann says with regards to who owns what IP addresses, and we all agree to use the current DNS system. Nothing FORCES anyone to follow any of these with their systems, other than the desire to obtain the benefits that go along with playing nicely with others.
If ICANN gets too far out of whack, they can be ignored. For instance: IF a bunch of major networks get together and decide that they no longer want to follow icanns regulations regarding ip address allocation, and that they are all going to start using some space that icann refuses to allocate, nothing will stop them. IT's their network, their business; if they all agree to route this traffic to each other, all the better. The same goes for dns; if the dns system gets too crazy, a new standard can emerge, and peopel can follow it.
Of the RFCs that are relevant to the modern internet, we don't use them strictly. We don't use all features of IPv4, for instance.. it's a guideline, not a rule.
It's all about cooperation; if icann stops being a benefit to the internet at large, it will simply be let go.
Except DeBeers is not a cartel; DeBeers is a single company with a virtual monopoly on the diamond industry.
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But you do not have to explain. The question is, "Can we purchase the machines without Windows".
"Why" might seem like a natural question, but it's not an answer. "Why" should have no bearing on whether or not they can do it.
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Is calmly and flatly explain to the salesperson that you are not interested in having Dell engineer any solutions for you, and that you are only trying to purchase hardware. Tell him that all decisions have been made, and if he doesn't want to help you, you will move on to the next vendor in your list.
Salespeople don't like it when a customer goes outside the norm... they don't understand the problem and can't try to sell you on new hardware.
The code you wrote is freely available to all. Code others make out of it may not be.
So you want to dictate that only those people who are going to give code away are allowed to modify your code. That's fine, just don't pretend it's about freedom.
But it hasn't happened, that you know of. You are saying these people are bad for watching a public resource to make sure people aren't illegally using it?
Guess what... in some places, so many feet above the high water mark is public property. That means that if the beach erodes, your land becomes public property.
These people were AWARE of these laws and regulations BEFORE they bought their property... it's like buying a house knowing a skyscraper is being build right where your nice view is, then suing them for blocking the view.
Or buying land across from a farm, and then bitching when the guy builds a big silo.
yes, some environmentalists take it too far... but all too often, joe average doesn't think far enough. What good is that steel mill if it's going to, say, destroy the water supply for the whole county in 10 years time?
Fiber to the home.. very high speed fiber. No reason some of this stuff can't happen.
Obviously, it can't work today... for this to work, the kind of computing power you need to, say, play a game, will have to be really, really cheap. I buy a new computer every year and a half. If doing everything I do could be done by some dumb terminal hooked up to some lightpipe for a fraction of that cost, I'd be all for it.
And in a short period of time those computers are slow and outdated, and replaced.
It's not that far fetched that, at some point, just like in science fiction novels,you will fire up a terminal in your house and 'rent' computing cycles. Oh sure, you will still be able to buy dedicated processing at home... that won't be taken away.. but it will be far cheaper for you to simply rent the time.
It meant plenty; poeple just misundrestood what C2 meant.
People thought it meant "you can't break in". That's not what it means at all. It has to do with access controls and audit trails and whatnot.. the overall security model and how it is enforced. IT does not have anything to do with whether or not there are bugs.
C2 certified means, when your government agency or whatever company needs to build a system to C2 specs, they need to use a system that is certified to do so.
You CAN build a C2 system with NT.... that was the point. You CAN'T build one with Linux.
Firstly, SP3 is buggy as hell, really, more than most other serivce packs.
Secondly, saying "too bad it takes 3 service packs" is absurd... how many patches have their been since, say, linux 2.4.1? Gee, LOTS.
Thirdly, this is a security certification, yes, but it doesn't have ANYTHING to do with how bug-free the code is (or not). IT only has to do with the security model in use, and the features it has (acl's, permissions, audit trails, etc). Again.. it has NOTHING to do with how secure the system is... only with what features it has for enforcing security (yes, it has more than unix)
Yes, they have rights. Building seawalls on public beaches is not one of them. Building a wall to protect their property, they can probably do that on their own land. buildling walls to protect "their" piece of beach is illegal.
Furthermore, if they want to do something to "protect their land" as you put it, they can do it legally, through the proper authorities, and they can look at such things BEFORE sinking tons of money into a house on the beach.
Your land isn't washing into the sea; the beach is nor your land.
they are illegal because the beach is considered public property. You can't own the beach. You are not allowed to block public access to a stretch of beach (ie: building a wall from ocean to your official property to prevent someone from strolling down the beach.
Once you get up goign fast enough, you use a huge magnetic field to suck up interstellar hydrogen and compress it to the point of fuel... like a ramjet in earth's atmosphere, but on a grand scale. Then you get up to fractional c.
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But, they were not begging. They were not asking MS for a donation.
MS came to them, acted like they should be grateful, when in fact, even though their budget and plans were publicized, it would be obvious that the MS offer was unworkable.
It's like I walk up to some poor person in a shelter and say "Look, I'm willing to help you here, see how nice I am? I'm going to let you stay in my beach house in St. Kitts, but you will have to find your own way to fly there, and you'll have to get some decent clothes, and feed yourslef when you are there. See how generous I am?
OpenSSL is a completely different project with no direct relation to OpenBSD.
OpenBSD audits & builds it's own versions of all packages it ships with, including removing libraries and/or features from those packages that go against OpenBSD's licensing policies.
The point of code audits is to TRY to find bugs; it is not a de-facto guaranteed way to ensure there are NO bugs. Code that is audited for bugs generally has less bugs than code that is not.
OpenBSD has no policy routing, and it's firewalling code is not the greatest on earth.
Yes, for a while ipf was a bit ahead of the game.
Most use it because of the perception that it is secure. Well.. if you turn off all the services, which you should do anyway, linux is just as secure.
Horse betting does indeed work the way he described; there is no house decision in it; the odds start out even and adjust in direct, exact proportion to how people are betting.
This is in sharp contrast to a regular sports bookmaker, who sets the odds however he sees fit (though of course it is based partially on how people are wagering)
It's not just about that.
Microsoft wants it's foot in the door by donating Office. These people are working on a small budget, and absolutely cannot afford the infrastructure needed to even USE that software. It's hardly a "gift".
Given the amounts of money MS rolls out, if MS wanted a foot in the door in Nambibia, they could easily afford to network & outfit the entire country's school system.. THEN they would surely listen.
Maybe.
yes... we've all heard it a million times before, right?
Let's just re-cap what it means though:
The RFCs, ICANN, the DNS system, and so on, none of these are definitive authorities on anything. The reason the internet (a large collection of networks) works is because we all follow roughly the same standards; we all agree to follow what icann says with regards to who owns what IP addresses, and we all agree to use the current DNS system. Nothing FORCES anyone to follow any of these with their systems, other than the desire to obtain the benefits that go along with playing nicely with others.
If ICANN gets too far out of whack, they can be ignored. For instance: IF a bunch of major networks get together and decide that they no longer want to follow icanns regulations regarding ip address allocation, and that they are all going to start using some space that icann refuses to allocate, nothing will stop them. IT's their network, their business; if they all agree to route this traffic to each other, all the better.
The same goes for dns; if the dns system gets too crazy, a new standard can emerge, and peopel can follow it.
Of the RFCs that are relevant to the modern internet, we don't use them strictly. We don't use all features of IPv4, for instance.. it's a guideline, not a rule.
It's all about cooperation; if icann stops being a benefit to the internet at large, it will simply be let go.
Except DeBeers is not a cartel; DeBeers is a single company with a virtual monopoly on the diamond industry.
But you do not have to explain. The question is, "Can we purchase the machines without Windows".
"Why" might seem like a natural question, but it's not an answer. "Why" should have no bearing on whether or not they can do it.
Is calmly and flatly explain to the salesperson that you are not interested in having Dell engineer any solutions for you, and that you are only trying to purchase hardware. Tell him that all decisions have been made, and if he doesn't want to help you, you will move on to the next vendor in your list.
Salespeople don't like it when a customer goes outside the norm... they don't understand the problem and can't try to sell you on new hardware.
The code you wrote is freely available to all.
Code others make out of it may not be.
So you want to dictate that only those people who are going to give code away are allowed to modify your code. That's fine, just don't pretend it's about freedom.
But it hasn't happened, that you know of.
You are saying these people are bad for watching a public resource to make sure people aren't illegally using it?
Guess what... in some places, so many feet above the high water mark is public property. That means that if the beach erodes, your land becomes public property.
These people were AWARE of these laws and regulations BEFORE they bought their property... it's like buying a house knowing a skyscraper is being build right where your nice view is, then suing them for blocking the view.
Or buying land across from a farm, and then bitching when the guy builds a big silo.
yes, some environmentalists take it too far... but all too often, joe average doesn't think far enough. What good is that steel mill if it's going to, say, destroy the water supply for the whole county in 10 years time?
Yes... today. Think down the road...
Fiber to the home.. very high speed fiber. No reason some of this stuff can't happen.
Obviously, it can't work today... for this to work, the kind of computing power you need to, say, play a game, will have to be really, really cheap. I buy a new computer every year and a half. If doing everything I do could be done by some dumb terminal hooked up to some lightpipe for a fraction of that cost, I'd be all for it.
And in a short period of time those computers are slow and outdated, and replaced.
It's not that far fetched that, at some point, just like in science fiction novels,you will fire up a terminal in your house and 'rent' computing cycles. Oh sure, you will still be able to buy dedicated processing at home... that won't be taken away.. but it will be far cheaper for you to simply rent the time.
It meant plenty; poeple just misundrestood what C2 meant.
People thought it meant "you can't break in". That's not what it means at all.
It has to do with access controls and audit trails and whatnot.. the overall security model and how it is enforced. IT does not have anything to do with whether or not there are bugs.
C2 certified means, when your government agency or whatever company needs to build a system to C2 specs, they need to use a system that is certified to do so.
You CAN build a C2 system with NT.... that was the point. You CAN'T build one with Linux.
Firstly, SP3 is buggy as hell, really, more than most other serivce packs.
Secondly, saying "too bad it takes 3 service packs" is absurd... how many patches have their been since, say, linux 2.4.1? Gee, LOTS.
Thirdly, this is a security certification, yes, but it doesn't have ANYTHING to do with how bug-free the code is (or not). IT only has to do with the security model in use, and the features it has (acl's, permissions, audit trails, etc). Again.. it has NOTHING to do with how secure the system is... only with what features it has for enforcing security (yes, it has more than unix)
Yes, they have rights.
Building seawalls on public beaches is not one of them.
Building a wall to protect their property, they can probably do that on their own land.
buildling walls to protect "their" piece of beach is illegal.
Furthermore, if they want to do something to "protect their land" as you put it, they can do it legally, through the proper authorities, and they can look at such things BEFORE sinking tons of money into a house on the beach.
Your land isn't washing into the sea; the beach is nor your land.
they are illegal because the beach is considered public property. You can't own the beach. You are not allowed to block public access to a stretch of beach (ie: building a wall from ocean to your official property to prevent someone from strolling down the beach.
Which experiment has been done that moves particles faster than the speed of light? That would be rather big news...
Once you get up goign fast enough, you use a huge magnetic field to suck up interstellar hydrogen and compress it to the point of fuel... like a ramjet in earth's atmosphere, but on a grand scale. Then you get up to fractional c.
Matter and Energy are not interchangeable, they are exactly the same thing.
E=mc^2.... right?
The c^2 is only there to provide a unit conversion in the event that your mass and energy units are not absolute.
It really means energy is mass.
There is nothing preventing anyone else form developing it further, or continuing to support 3.0
You are a troll.
I run some very serious networks, and we don't use openbsd. What is so superior about PF?
Openbsd can't do policy routing, and PF is quite limited.
And a serious network doesn't run the mail server and webserver and router on the firewall.
Maybe it's the obvious...
how can there be tension on a cable that is resting on the floor?
And given how bad the grammar is on the site, perhaps there are real geeks behind it who will actually deliver something.
who modded that as insightful.
That's just a second class troll.
Obviously.