State and federal courts historically have used two models to interpret the Second Amendment: the now generally accepted individual rights model, and the "collective rights" model, which holds that the right is dependent on militia membership. While having influenced a number of past court cases, the "collective rights" model has been discarded by the U.S. Supreme Court, in favor of the individual rights model.
And that action drove the usually civil-liberty-loving liberals into the hands of the NRA's opponents. Take a step back a moment: does it really make much sense that liberals, who detest restrictions on speech, on what you can do with your own bodies, on people being jailed, would actually, normally, be in favor - in principle - of someone owning a device as long as they used it responsibly?
What or who are you referring to as a liberal? Some people hate it because it supposedly is still too simplified of a model, but the political compass is a more granular way of describing political views.
A libertarian-leaning liberal is much more likely to be "hands off" on many issues. Unfortunately it appears that both the left and right have a double heapin' helping of authoritarians that want to legislate what you do as a rule, and in some cases more insidiously, tell you what to think. There are very few true liberals, and quite a few authoritarian cappuccino swilling "nanny staters" who love to preach social engineering and liberal values as long as you agree with their exact version of them.
Maybe, just maybe, the NRA should change its strategy.
According to a piece recently aired on NPR, the NRA is nowhere as influential as they would have people think. I have no opinion on the matter since I haven't read anything in depth on the topic, but the idea is interesting.
As somebody who owns multiple firearms, I keep a loaded six shot.357 in the nightstand (it's just me and the dog, otherwise I'd have a nightstand gun safe), and the semiautos locked up. For self defense, my argument is that if you can't do it with six rounds of.357 mag (actually.38+P) or five rounds out of a 12 gauge while holed up in the bedroom, you're very seriously doing it wrong. But.. to each their own. That being said, I carried an M16 for six years in the service, and I think most people would be surprised at the damage a proper shotgun load or deer rifle can do in comparison. Hell, if I really hate somebody I'm going to shoot them with a compound bow and broadhead arrows.. heheh.
Yes, I know the crux of the issue for many is the ammunition capacity and the easy reload ability, but my point is that crazy will find a way to be crazy, no matter the laws. In addition, I find it unnerving that many of my local police seem to be former high school jocks with a limited amount of training (and no time in the armed forces to compensate for it) and are running around with AR-15 variants in the trunks of their cars. If the M16 and its ilk like the AR15 are war machines, why are they packing them? How often do they engage an active shooter wielding an AK or an AR? Isn't that what SWAT is for?
Now.. if the jerkoffs in the media would quit giving these maniacs so much coverage. What a feedback loop that is.. sigh.
I know guys.. TL;DR
Welcome to being a target... right along with gun owners
Indeed!
I'm not a big fan of Reagan, but this fits:
We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
Ronald Reagan
*Smirk*
Is that the best shaming language you have?
You're just like the guy who tried to run me down in the crosswalk in Boston while I was in uniform during the runup to Gulf War I, then stops half a block a way, screams "fuck you" and flips me off through the sunroof.. then takes off when I break into a full sprint after him.
You've got nothing, and your hoplophobia is showing.
I say this as a moderate Dem with a libertarian bent: civilian gun owership will not be outlawed in the US within your lifetime. Witness this and this. We need to disarm criminals, close the gunshow loophole, and find a mechanism to weed out the mentally unstable with respect to weapons purchases. The last is the trickiest, especially considering doctor patient confidentiality.
You know, even at the NSA there's probably people using the same password on several accounts.
I would be very surprised if the NSA didn't use dual factor authentication. Hell, my ex-wife was an engineer for Sun Microsystems and wherever they went they had an "Enigma Card" (secure token device). I would hope if Sun/Oracle is doing it (love it when they call them "snorkle" now) one would hope that agencies like the NSA is doing it.
Maybe the GCSB will say their methods are secret and can't be disclosed in open court, and the court will dismiss the charges against Dotcom, giving the government a way out. It's happened in the US a few times.
I'm wondering how much of GCSB's equipment and methodologies are genuinely indigenous, versus how much is supplied by larger Echelon nations like the UK and US. It's pretty amazing that a nation of less than five million has a full-blown NSA equivalent. Then again, with manufacturers like this floating around I suppose it has gotten easier.
My bet is on "Hand-crafted workmanship! (we had to manually solder extra jumper wires in these units to fix early production bugs)"
For some reason I hear Ricardo Montalban in the background reading "Hand crafted workmanship.. the highest quality last minute jumpers.. all with the smell of fine Corinthian leather..."
What I don't underestimate is the ability of 2nd Infantry Division and the South Koreans to act as a 15 minute speed bump to get the F-16s in the air to knock the living fuck out of their fuel depots, thus limiting their advance. After that the B-2s take over and we ascertain whether we go with dial-a-yield B61s to eliminate the arty wholesale. Make no mistake: part of their initial ordinance mix will be chemical in nature. We only have one leg of the NBC triad left with which to respond, and Saddam wasn't even stupid enough to test us on that.
Forgive the assumption, but I could bet real money that you're white and male. You might feel differently if you were judged your whole life on appearance alone.
From the way his post was framed, I'll bet you're right. I'm a white male as well. What I'm curious about: you seem (and forgive me if the strawman attacketh) to take issue with his post. What about it bothered you? My liberal-libertarian Spidey sense is tingling...
I've worked at a very liberal university in the past, and half of those motherfuckers would institute the thought police if they could.. if often seemed that the only correct opinion about anything was one that bashed white males. Just remember, while my freedom of speech does have consequences for me, (second potential strawman alert) you have no right to not be offended.
If there really is an issue, why is a software engineer raising hell about it? He should clam up and turn it over to counsel, instead of making shrill assertions. Even if his assertions have some sort of foundation in truth, he is ill-prepared to handle the situation. If he's not careful, his mouth (or keyboard) could get him and/or Redhat into trouble.
That appears to be a popular sentiment, but I fear what will become of extremely wealthy Islamic nations (because we've been buying so much oil from them) when this hand is no longer feeding them. They won't be killing just each I other, and they have lots of money to effectively kill anyone they like.
So they'd be a threat to who.. the US? Russia? China? That's a really quick way to get green glassed, or at least have your infrastructure destroyed in a most profound manner. Sure, maybe you might argue that they fund a shadow war.. if we're not dependent upon them for oil these things have a way of going hot.. just like the so-called terrorist training camps getting hit by Tomahawks.
And Israel.. I suspect somebody might end up having an Israeli nuke make a surprise visit if they misbehave. I've often wondered if the Israelis have invested in neutron warheads since they potential targets are in the neighborhood.
As for the money, show me that they're not pissing it away. I've not heard (or read) of any analogs like Norway's "rainy day" fund. Now there's a nation with some goddamned sense.
That's really great rhetoric. Did you know that the United States gets 1/3 of its crude oil imports from Canada?
Your point? We also get quite a bit from Mexico. I have to ask: are you Canadian? It always seems that the Canucks bring up this factoid to pump their ego. Yes, I already knew that we get a shit ton of oil (and resources) from Canada.
That's more than it gets from any other nation -- Saudi Arabia included. Are they killing themselves in Canada over petty differences?
Honest question, do the Canadians give us "special pricing", or do they sell at market rates? A disruption in the Middle East still affects the U.S.
By the way, could you tell me what's so unstable about Saudi Arabia? George W. Bush seemed to think they were okay.
Yeah, I figured as much, which is why I threw the disclaimer in about "there are probably five guys wishing he'd shut up".. probably even more. I'm just amazed, because even when I was stationed near 10th SFG I never heard those guys talking about anything to do with a mission... and we're just talking about standard issue greenie beanies. (They're still light years ahead of anything I did though)
this whole "rock star" mentality with the SEALS. If I were that good.. fucking "Jedi" good.. I'd want to remain invisible. Due to compromised identitities, I view it as a matter of time before the bad guys start putting things together and whacking the families of operators as retribution. If I were those guys I'd develop a major case of STFU and teach everybody in my family how to handle a weapon. Of course, for every Mark Owen there are probably five guys wishing he'd shut up.
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Do you really want to play that game? How about we ban anything that can exceed 80mph. Hmmm? Almost a third involving speeding indeed.
That's why I'm not a big fan of Reagan, as previously stated. I do, however, agree with the sentiment of his statement. Own up to your actions.
How many of those countries have the Second Amendment?
Don't even go there with the whole interpretation issue; you'll lose that battle.
State and federal courts historically have used two models to interpret the Second Amendment: the now generally accepted individual rights model, and the "collective rights" model, which holds that the right is dependent on militia membership. While having influenced a number of past court cases, the "collective rights" model has been discarded by the U.S. Supreme Court, in favor of the individual rights model.
What or who are you referring to as a liberal? Some people hate it because it supposedly is still too simplified of a model, but the political compass is a more granular way of describing political views.
A libertarian-leaning liberal is much more likely to be "hands off" on many issues. Unfortunately it appears that both the left and right have a double heapin' helping of authoritarians that want to legislate what you do as a rule, and in some cases more insidiously, tell you what to think. There are very few true liberals, and quite a few authoritarian cappuccino swilling "nanny staters" who love to preach social engineering and liberal values as long as you agree with their exact version of them.
According to a piece recently aired on NPR, the NRA is nowhere as influential as they would have people think. I have no opinion on the matter since I haven't read anything in depth on the topic, but the idea is interesting.
.357 in the nightstand (it's just me and the dog, otherwise I'd have a nightstand gun safe), and the semiautos locked up. For self defense, my argument is that if you can't do it with six rounds of .357 mag (actually .38+P) or five rounds out of a 12 gauge while holed up in the bedroom, you're very seriously doing it wrong. But.. to each their own. That being said, I carried an M16 for six years in the service, and I think most people would be surprised at the damage a proper shotgun load or deer rifle can do in comparison. Hell, if I really hate somebody I'm going to shoot them with a compound bow and broadhead arrows.. heheh.
As somebody who owns multiple firearms, I keep a loaded six shot
Yes, I know the crux of the issue for many is the ammunition capacity and the easy reload ability, but my point is that crazy will find a way to be crazy, no matter the laws. In addition, I find it unnerving that many of my local police seem to be former high school jocks with a limited amount of training (and no time in the armed forces to compensate for it) and are running around with AR-15 variants in the trunks of their cars. If the M16 and its ilk like the AR15 are war machines, why are they packing them? How often do they engage an active shooter wielding an AK or an AR? Isn't that what SWAT is for?
Now.. if the jerkoffs in the media would quit giving these maniacs so much coverage. What a feedback loop that is.. sigh. I know guys.. TL;DR
Indeed!
I'm not a big fan of Reagan, but this fits:
We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions. Ronald Reagan
Apparently they do.
*snicker*
Mr. Norris, is that you? ;)
*Smirk*
Is that the best shaming language you have?
You're just like the guy who tried to run me down in the crosswalk in Boston while I was in uniform during the runup to Gulf War I, then stops half a block a way, screams "fuck you" and flips me off through the sunroof.. then takes off when I break into a full sprint after him.
You've got nothing, and your hoplophobia is showing.
Looks like the wild fucking west to me.
Asshole eh? Wow.. somebody has sand in their vagina...
Yet Chicago has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the U.S. and oopsie...
I say this as a moderate Dem with a libertarian bent: civilian gun owership will not be outlawed in the US within your lifetime. Witness this and this. We need to disarm criminals, close the gunshow loophole, and find a mechanism to weed out the mentally unstable with respect to weapons purchases. The last is the trickiest, especially considering doctor patient confidentiality.
I would be very surprised if the NSA didn't use dual factor authentication. Hell, my ex-wife was an engineer for Sun Microsystems and wherever they went they had an "Enigma Card" (secure token device). I would hope if Sun/Oracle is doing it (love it when they call them "snorkle" now) one would hope that agencies like the NSA is doing it.
I'm wondering how much of GCSB's equipment and methodologies are genuinely indigenous, versus how much is supplied by larger Echelon nations like the UK and US. It's pretty amazing that a nation of less than five million has a full-blown NSA equivalent. Then again, with manufacturers like this floating around I suppose it has gotten easier.
For some reason I hear Ricardo Montalban in the background reading "Hand crafted workmanship.. the highest quality last minute jumpers.. all with the smell of fine Corinthian leather..."
What I don't underestimate is the ability of 2nd Infantry Division and the South Koreans to act as a 15 minute speed bump to get the F-16s in the air to knock the living fuck out of their fuel depots, thus limiting their advance. After that the B-2s take over and we ascertain whether we go with dial-a-yield B61s to eliminate the arty wholesale. Make no mistake: part of their initial ordinance mix will be chemical in nature. We only have one leg of the NBC triad left with which to respond, and Saddam wasn't even stupid enough to test us on that.
Hello I.T., have you tried turning it off and on again?
Holy crap, check this thing out!
Color me impressed...
From the way his post was framed, I'll bet you're right. I'm a white male as well. What I'm curious about: you seem (and forgive me if the strawman attacketh) to take issue with his post. What about it bothered you? My liberal-libertarian Spidey sense is tingling...
I've worked at a very liberal university in the past, and half of those motherfuckers would institute the thought police if they could.. if often seemed that the only correct opinion about anything was one that bashed white males. Just remember, while my freedom of speech does have consequences for me, (second potential strawman alert) you have no right to not be offended.
If there really is an issue, why is a software engineer raising hell about it? He should clam up and turn it over to counsel, instead of making shrill assertions. Even if his assertions have some sort of foundation in truth, he is ill-prepared to handle the situation. If he's not careful, his mouth (or keyboard) could get him and/or Redhat into trouble.
I should have proofed that last one.. LMAO.
So they'd be a threat to who.. the US? Russia? China? That's a really quick way to get green glassed, or at least have your infrastructure destroyed in a most profound manner. Sure, maybe you might argue that they fund a shadow war.. if we're not dependent upon them for oil these things have a way of going hot.. just like the so-called terrorist training camps getting hit by Tomahawks.
And Israel.. I suspect somebody might end up having an Israeli nuke make a surprise visit if they misbehave. I've often wondered if the Israelis have invested in neutron warheads since they potential targets are in the neighborhood.
As for the money, show me that they're not pissing it away. I've not heard (or read) of any analogs like Norway's "rainy day" fund. Now there's a nation with some goddamned sense.
Your point? We also get quite a bit from Mexico. I have to ask: are you Canadian? It always seems that the Canucks bring up this factoid to pump their ego. Yes, I already knew that we get a shit ton of oil (and resources) from Canada.
Honest question, do the Canadians give us "special pricing", or do they sell at market rates? A disruption in the Middle East still affects the U.S.
Are you serious?
Yeah, I figured as much, which is why I threw the disclaimer in about "there are probably five guys wishing he'd shut up".. probably even more. I'm just amazed, because even when I was stationed near 10th SFG I never heard those guys talking about anything to do with a mission... and we're just talking about standard issue greenie beanies. (They're still light years ahead of anything I did though)
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