A lot of the articles take on a very "whiny" feel to them and generally, you dont get real information out of the story. Its hard to find a serious discussion.
You're right. We don't know if it will be counted:) That's why I'm waiting to download it from the official release page - that's the only place from where I can be sure that my download is counted.
..and take advantage of this early offer that only us extreme nerds get?
You really think it's going to be a select few? How many will be telling their office colleagues across their cubicles that the download it available? How long will it take before there are a whole lot of people wanting to know how to get it?
Yeah, sure it might slashdot their servers. I'll let them deal with that. They handled the 1.0 launch just fine. It's also a question of your download getting counted.
Think. This was just posted on slashdot! Select few? Really? How many downloads will start now? How many will actually get counted?
I want my download to count. I am going to download it from the release page. I don't think I can say much more.
Yeah, the download is available. But it hasn't been officially released yet. Come on people! Let's make the launch a nice event by downloading it then! I wanted to post the exact same thing but didn't because after so much hard work on the part of the Firefox Team, I don't mind waiting a few hours to make their release a huge success. And no, I'm not going to download it until it's officially announced. That's my little way of helping to recognize the official launch.
It's been well known for some years that the earth is a huge computer calculating the question to which the answer is 42 (or the other way round;) ). This guy is an alien technician sent to earth to make sure the calculations go right. Want proof? Go check his personal library for examples of horrid poetry:)
smile... keep smiling... *15 mins later* keep smiling.... *half an hour later* keep smiling...DON'T MOVE! *3 hours later* keep smiling...I SAID DON'T MOVE. I DON'T CARE IF YOU'VE GOT CRAMPS!! *8 hours later* hey! we need your eyes open! you can't fall asleep! and SMILE! *12 to 15 hours later* there! all done! Your living photograph is ready. Now let's start on the family portrait now that you've had some practice.
I think you also need to look at what happens to PhDs AFTER they graduate. Where do they work? Do they stay in the same country they studied in? I think THAT'S the real measure. The funny part is, a lot of PhDs from India and China are being used in those very countries. About the quality of education, you'd be surprised at how good some universities in Asia are - some of them are ranked higher than well known US ones. The real thing to think about is that the talent that is being produced is being re-cycled in the same country. Both India and China's economies are booming, all because of the simple fact that their currencies are weaker than the dollar and living expenses are less - that's what makes out-sourcing practical. I am from India and yes, there was a time when the big thing to do was to go to the US and work there. Not any more. In fact, now the trend is to go study in the US or Australia and then to COME BACK because you have a MUCH higher standard of living to look forward to.
You can quote percentages, numbers and figures about PhD graduates and PhD graduations as a ratio of the population, but you do need to take into account what happens after they graduate and where they go. I feel that is a statistic that would have more meaning to a particular country or continent.
for a kid, something like GIMP is MORE than enough...heck, they will use the default paintbrush tool and the default color and start drawing. At the end, the drawing is a bunch of squiggles. But to them, it's an ice monster. They will ask you how to change colors. You show them, they're happy. They will find out the rest in their time. You then show them gradients....they play with them...Sometimes you get a little ahead of yourself and try to explain to them layers, opacity and filters...they lose interest. Why? because they want to draw their ice monster and all they need is 3 shades of blue.
With kids, what I've seen is that their imagination plays a MAJOR role in what they do. So, something even as limited as paintbrush is good enough to them. The ones who want to learn more about drawing will do so. They will come to you with questions. You show them how to do what they want and they will remember because that is what they are interested in.
Same with word processors. They will play with font sizes and bold, italics and underline fonts and will explore every button on the word processor to see what it does. They'll use character and line formatting to write "their story". Maybe a few figures here and there. it won't be structured and it won't need a table of contents - and openoffice is more than capable for those needs. They are also not bothered by it's sluggishness...to them...that's the way it works...no complaints.
Its the same with something like inkscape...as long as they can print their pictures or save them to work on them again, they're happy.
And yes, I do know what you're talking about and when stuff goes wrong, they will wait for you to fix it and then they're happy to get back to what they were doing. One thing with Linux stuff...you generally only have to fix it once. Once it works, it works well. That suits kids perfectly.
I guess what I'm trying to say in a nutshell is...a box of lego pieces that may or may not fit each other is much more stimulating to a kid's ability to learn and explore than a pre-made action figure that walks and says something.
I think sir, you will find that kids are FAR more adept at grasping unknown concepts than you and me. We have our ways and are set in them. To learn something new, we need to get away from what we are used to. Kids don't have that disadvantage. Believe me, I know from experience. They grasp Linux as fast as they grasp Windows. From what i've seen (I setup a linux computer lab for an orphanage in India and helped them decide the computer syllabus for the school), Linux helps more because the brighter kids start poring through the man pages and start mucking around with shell commands and scripting after some time (all we told them was that if they needed to know about something, use "info " or "man " - nothing else). They actually learn from it and sometimes they ask you about options that you didn't know existed:) With Windows, the help from both Windows and the command shell isn't too great and the chance to experiment isn't really there. They also appreciate choice. Give them an option to choose their window manager at the login screen and they will go through every single one! Why? Because they can and because they're curious.
Sure, Mac OS X is a great OS that just works. Sure its a real steal at no cost. But for kids, the cost of the OS doesnt matter. The fact that it just works is good. But what they really want to do is get into the internals and rip it apart to see what makes it tick. What better candidate than something that's open source? They dont have deadlines to meet. They are not bothered by customers who inist on their documents being in the MS Office format. For kids, it's about the concepts. If it doesn't work, they'll try for some time to see why. They will ask you why it doesn't work. They will try to fix it. If they can't they will ask you. They will listen while you tell them what's wrong. If you can fix it, they will watch you doing it very carefully, trying to understand what you are doing and asking 100 questions in the process. If you can't fix it, they forget about it and move to something else.
Do not underestimate the kids' thirst for knowledge and their ability to acquire it:) Sure, there will be those who dont want to learn. That is something that won't change regardless of WHAT you're trying to teach them. But for those that DO want to learn, anything will do.
"EFF is collecting stories from EFF members and supporters who have purchased Sony-BMG CDs that contained the "rootkit" copy protection software. We've previously posted at least a partial list of CDs infected"
I'm an indian and have lived in India for 28 years. See, the thing is, countries like India and China learn from others' mistakes. The US has had to lead in terms of not just technology, but legislation controlling technology (patents, copyright, trademarks) and everything else associated with it (education, research, the internet). When you lead, there are no guidelines and the outcome is based on your best effort. Throw in a free economy and lobbying into the mix and you end up where the US is today. Other developing countries can see this and analyse it and if they're wise, try to learn from it. This is what India is doing (and I assume what China is too). The question remains however, is what will happen once these countries catch up to the US and overtake it (yes, that WILL happen, just not soon and no, I'm not trying to start a flame war). Then they will be left to their own devices and where they go from there will be based on the strengths of their governmental systems, the level of corruption at that stage, etc etc.
In a nutshell, it's hard to lead, but easy to follow.
So don't give your country too hard a time for where it is right now. You guys have done a pretty good job (with technology). Ofcourse, its not the fall that matters, but how you get up.
No need for explosions or anything. If you just attached a mass of stuff to the asteroid, wouldn't that change its course over time because the gravitational effects from all the heavenly bodies would then be different? So would it not be a question of merely figuring out WHEN to attach the mass to the asteroid and how much to attach, given that it could be done securely enough?
...every action has an equal and opposite reaction......so asteroid pulls the spacecraft......for 20 years......so the spacecraft needs some sort of fuel that will allow it to fight this pull for 20 years......so......can this be done?
sorry, its a genuine question from a layman. what is the answer?
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A lot of the articles take on a very "whiny" feel to them and generally, you dont get real information out of the story. Its hard to find a serious discussion.
how many times have the licenses changed?
also, maybe stuff like code overlap between projects?
...kinda predicted the reaction the chip would get...Yawn-er...
I agree here and I think a few screenshots of the more extreme parts of the game are all that's needed - a picture is worth a thousand words.
Yes folks, it's official now on the Firefox website
:)
Go get it and get counted!
As an aside, the site seems to be holding up pretty well so far - the downloads are really fast.
You're right. We don't know if it will be counted :)
That's why I'm waiting to download it from the official release page - that's the only place from where I can be sure that my download is counted.
..and take advantage of this early offer that only us extreme nerds get?
You really think it's going to be a select few? How many will be telling their office colleagues across their cubicles that the download it available? How long will it take before there are a whole lot of people wanting to know how to get it?
Yeah, sure it might slashdot their servers. I'll let them deal with that. They handled the 1.0 launch just fine. It's also a question of your download getting counted.
Think. This was just posted on slashdot! Select few? Really? How many downloads will start now? How many will actually get counted?
I want my download to count. I am going to download it from the release page. I don't think I can say much more.
Yeah, the download is available. But it hasn't been officially released yet. Come on people! Let's make the launch a nice event by downloading it then! I wanted to post the exact same thing but didn't because after so much hard work on the part of the Firefox Team, I don't mind waiting a few hours to make their release a huge success. And no, I'm not going to download it until it's officially announced. That's my little way of helping to recognize the official launch.
It's been well known for some years that the earth is a huge computer calculating the question to which the answer is 42 (or the other way round ;) ). This guy is an alien technician sent to earth to make sure the calculations go right. Want proof? Go check his personal library for examples of horrid poetry :)
So I guess the charges STUCK? :)
smile...
keep smiling...
*15 mins later*
keep smiling....
*half an hour later*
keep smiling...DON'T MOVE!
*3 hours later*
keep smiling...I SAID DON'T MOVE. I DON'T CARE IF YOU'VE GOT CRAMPS!!
*8 hours later*
hey! we need your eyes open! you can't fall asleep! and SMILE!
*12 to 15 hours later*
there! all done! Your living photograph is ready.
Now let's start on the family portrait now that you've had some practice.
I think you also need to look at what happens to PhDs AFTER they graduate. Where do they work? Do they stay in the same country they studied in? I think THAT'S the real measure. The funny part is, a lot of PhDs from India and China are being used in those very countries. About the quality of education, you'd be surprised at how good some universities in Asia are - some of them are ranked higher than well known US ones. The real thing to think about is that the talent that is being produced is being re-cycled in the same country. Both India and China's economies are booming, all because of the simple fact that their currencies are weaker than the dollar and living expenses are less - that's what makes out-sourcing practical. I am from India and yes, there was a time when the big thing to do was to go to the US and work there. Not any more. In fact, now the trend is to go study in the US or Australia and then to COME BACK because you have a MUCH higher standard of living to look forward to.
You can quote percentages, numbers and figures about PhD graduates and PhD graduations as a ratio of the population, but you do need to take into account what happens after they graduate and where they go. I feel that is a statistic that would have more meaning to a particular country or continent.
...aim bots?
for a kid, something like GIMP is MORE than enough...heck, they will use the default paintbrush tool and the default color and start drawing. At the end, the drawing is a bunch of squiggles. But to them, it's an ice monster. They will ask you how to change colors. You show them, they're happy. They will find out the rest in their time. You then show them gradients....they play with them...Sometimes you get a little ahead of yourself and try to explain to them layers, opacity and filters...they lose interest. Why? because they want to draw their ice monster and all they need is 3 shades of blue.
With kids, what I've seen is that their imagination plays a MAJOR role in what they do. So, something even as limited as paintbrush is good enough to them. The ones who want to learn more about drawing will do so. They will come to you with questions. You show them how to do what they want and they will remember because that is what they are interested in.
Same with word processors. They will play with font sizes and bold, italics and underline fonts and will explore every button on the word processor to see what it does. They'll use character and line formatting to write "their story". Maybe a few figures here and there. it won't be structured and it won't need a table of contents - and openoffice is more than capable for those needs. They are also not bothered by it's sluggishness...to them...that's the way it works...no complaints.
Its the same with something like inkscape...as long as they can print their pictures or save them to work on them again, they're happy.
And yes, I do know what you're talking about and when stuff goes wrong, they will wait for you to fix it and then they're happy to get back to what they were doing. One thing with Linux stuff...you generally only have to fix it once. Once it works, it works well. That suits kids perfectly.
I guess what I'm trying to say in a nutshell is...a box of lego pieces that may or may not fit each other is much more stimulating to a kid's ability to learn and explore than a pre-made action figure that walks and says something.
I think sir, you will find that kids are FAR more adept at grasping unknown concepts than you and me. We have our ways and are set in them. To learn something new, we need to get away from what we are used to. Kids don't have that disadvantage. Believe me, I know from experience. They grasp Linux as fast as they grasp Windows. From what i've seen (I setup a linux computer lab for an orphanage in India and helped them decide the computer syllabus for the school), Linux helps more because the brighter kids start poring through the man pages and start mucking around with shell commands and scripting after some time (all we told them was that if they needed to know about something, use "info " or "man " - nothing else). They actually learn from it and sometimes they ask you about options that you didn't know existed :) With Windows, the help from both Windows and the command shell isn't too great and the chance to experiment isn't really there. They also appreciate choice. Give them an option to choose their window manager at the login screen and they will go through every single one! Why? Because they can and because they're curious.
:) Sure, there will be those who dont want to learn. That is something that won't change regardless of WHAT you're trying to teach them. But for those that DO want to learn, anything will do.
Sure, Mac OS X is a great OS that just works. Sure its a real steal at no cost. But for kids, the cost of the OS doesnt matter. The fact that it just works is good. But what they really want to do is get into the internals and rip it apart to see what makes it tick. What better candidate than something that's open source? They dont have deadlines to meet. They are not bothered by customers who inist on their documents being in the MS Office format. For kids, it's about the concepts. If it doesn't work, they'll try for some time to see why. They will ask you why it doesn't work. They will try to fix it. If they can't they will ask you. They will listen while you tell them what's wrong. If you can fix it, they will watch you doing it very carefully, trying to understand what you are doing and asking 100 questions in the process. If you can't fix it, they forget about it and move to something else.
Do not underestimate the kids' thirst for knowledge and their ability to acquire it
or does it sound eerily similar to Viagra?? :)
Heck...both of them are supposed to "make things look up" right?
You know, how you can look at where the sun is in the morning and know that is the east?
"EFF is collecting stories from EFF members and supporters who have purchased Sony-BMG CDs that contained the "rootkit" copy protection software. We've previously posted at least a partial list of CDs infected"
Partial List of Copy Protected CDs
The EFF is also considering a lawsuit against Sony.
So, if you've had the hassle of dealing with this DRM crap and live in California or New York, help them out by checking out this page
It's time to DO something. Enough of the whining. Help the EFF out.
I'm an indian and have lived in India for 28 years. See, the thing is, countries like India and China learn from others' mistakes. The US has had to lead in terms of not just technology, but legislation controlling technology (patents, copyright, trademarks) and everything else associated with it (education, research, the internet). When you lead, there are no guidelines and the outcome is based on your best effort.
Throw in a free economy and lobbying into the mix and you end up where the US is today. Other developing countries can see this and analyse it and if they're wise, try to learn from it. This is what India is doing (and I assume what China is too).
The question remains however, is what will happen once these countries catch up to the US and overtake it (yes, that WILL happen, just not soon and no, I'm not trying to start a flame war). Then they will be left to their own devices and where they go from there will be based on the strengths of their governmental systems, the level of corruption at that stage, etc etc.
In a nutshell, it's hard to lead, but easy to follow.
So don't give your country too hard a time for where it is right now. You guys have done a pretty good job (with technology). Ofcourse, its not the fall that matters, but how you get up.
No need for explosions or anything. If you just attached a mass of stuff to the asteroid, wouldn't that change its course over time because the gravitational effects from all the heavenly bodies would then be different?
So would it not be a question of merely figuring out WHEN to attach the mass to the asteroid and how much to attach, given that it could be done securely enough?
dude. your head's too big. its exerting too much gravity.
...every action has an equal and opposite reaction... ...so asteroid pulls the spacecraft... ...for 20 years... ...so the spacecraft needs some sort of fuel that will allow it to fight this pull for 20 years... ...so... ...can this be done?
sorry, its a genuine question from a layman. what is the answer?
surely putting a few overweight people on the thing will help increase its gavitational pull :)