Why the fuck? Because it's been growing at this rate since the 1970s. It's not unreasonable to extend that for another 20 years. It MAY not happen, that's true.
But the pricing for photovoltaic cells has now dropped to the point where the cost of installation is the largest price factor. That is fantastic. Why? Because installation costs will drop fast as it becomes more commonplace and more modular.
The rate of growth has been doubling every 18 months or so since 1980. That's roughly 24 doubles.
Is it too much to believe that exponential growth will continue for another 3 years (2 doubles)? How about 6 (4 doubles)? You make it seem as if I'm extrapolating 200 years into the future. No, I'm extrapolating 20 years.
I would answer that question. As much as I dislike the Republican Party it is heads and shoulders above the Democrat Party as respects to individual rights.
In 2000 the social conservative and neo-con wing of the Republican Party was at a high point. The neo-cons were not particularly interested in nanny-statism but were for a surveillance state. The neo-cons have fallen in such low favor in the Republican Party that they are close to irrelevant today. And the socons have slowly and quietly ebbed away.
In 2008 over half of conservatives under 30 were fine with gay marriage. Now, 10 years later, I'm sure the trend has continued thus making over half of conservatives and republicans ok with gay marriage.
The left was pro-frees speech until recently. The left has lurched into Cultural Revolution land and is beginning to implode. however you would like to describe the left and Democratic party it is, at the moment, hostile to individual liberty.
Group rights, identitarian politics are antithetical with individualism.
Just like you presumed that Smollett was attacked by MAGA hat wearing thugs in Chicago? Or that little girl, Jazmine Barnes, was shot by a white racist? Or the Covington kids were racist and instigated the incident?
OK.
Just your bias showing through.
Which is the party that at least mouths individual rights? And which is the party that glorifies state control?
I've been vetted for many of my positions (in IT where the concern is fraud and not rape or murder).
This vetting process included getting fingerprinted, running a criminal background check and drug tests.
That was very intrusive. I think courts could very well uphold it as the physical intrusion to collect the DNA is on the same level as getting fingerprinted. And, the courts have already deemed that collecting such information is reasonable and necessary for the state.
Funny how you're concerned about this but you're probably not concerned about all the nanny state intrusions into your privacy and daily habits because "think of the children" or some other such trope.
That's why I qualified it. We don't know to what extent we can continue at this rate. I'm far more confident for photovoltaics than I am for wind.
Source: https://ourworldindata.org/ren...
You can download.csv files to get exact figures.
You can see the module price (not including installation) has dropped from $66 / W to $0.62/W in 2016. That's a 100x decrease in price. https://ourworldindata.org/gra...
The major cost now is installation. And that can only drop so far.
But I was understating my case. Projecting the same growth rate to 2040 would be a 1000x increase over current production. That would take care of all electric generation plus allow for electric cars to supplant petrol based cars.
I find climate change to be a different category than the others.
One it has to do with falsifiable predictions for the future (which currently they are not - or have been proved wildly inaccurate.)
Second it has a lot to do with bad science reporting - but still the scientists are not rebuking the nonsense. Example that CO2 is a leading indicator for rise in temperatures.
Third, it has to with solutions for the problem. Not one of them brings acknowledges that renewable energy production has been growing in an exponential rate since the 1970s. If we continue at this rate for another 20 years we will be close to fossil fuel independent and another 40 years we will be out of the petro era completely. (With of course some exceptions.)
One quick example:
World-wide consumption of wind power was
0.0105 TWh in 1980
3.6 TWh in 1990
31.5 TWh in 2000
341.4 TWh in 2010
959.5 TWh in 2016
Let's extrapolate a 10x increase per decade
That places us at 3,000 TWh in 2020, 30,000 in 2030 and 300,000 in 2040.
"According to the Renewables Global Status Report (GSR) from REN21, roughly a fifth of the world’s electrical power production now comes from renewable sources. To be more precise, in 2013 renewable energy accounted for 22% of the global energy mix, up from 21% in 2012 and 18% in 2007."
Therefore by 2040 we will be able to source all our current use of electricity by renewables plus a lot more.
This will true with or without any Green New Deal. This will be true with or without governments changing what they're doing.
Funny how I don't hear this from all the doomsayers.
The fact that doomsayers don't mention the fact that the carbon footprint problem will be solved in 20 years makes me suspect.
There are many things that makes me suspect of the climate-change alarmists. (One of them is the slight of hand of using the phrase "climate change.")
Like the invading Han Chinese? Or the invading Persians?
the history of humanity, up to early modern times (roughly 1500 CE), was one of conflict between semi-nomadic people and civilized peoples (those living in cities with agriculture) .
Our history books may focus on the conflict between settled peoples but the primary change was whenever agricultural peoples came across lands held by semi-nomadic people. The agricultural (civilized) peoples considered this to be unsettled, unclaimed land.
If temperatures are rising due to human CO2 production then, at earliest, the rise in temperatures should start at the beginning of the 20th C. The steam engine - the real cause for increased fossil fuel consumption wasn't developed until the end of the 18th C. If you're going to be particular about the phrasing - the first steam engine was developed in the late 17th C, but it wasn't until Watt's improvements, mainly the flywheel, that the steam engine came onto it's own. And, it wasn't until the early 19thC that high-pressure engines were developed.
Until this point - early 19thC - mechanized power, and the use of fossil fuels, was, for all practical purposes, the same as in classical times.
A graph on this site - https://ourworldindata.org/fos... - clearly shows that the rise of fossil fuel use (ie CO2 production) only really started by the beginning of the 20th C. And, since CO2 is the cause of global warming (according to AGW proponents), then any rise in temperature before the 20th C was not caused by fossil fuel consumption.
You do realize there was a little Ice Age at the end of the 17th C. So you're comparing the trough of a wave with a crest.
Why don't you compare crest to crest and do it over a realistic period of time - let's say 120 million years. Why 120 million years? Because that was when proto-mammals first appeared. The environment had been acceptable for mammals for millions of years before that.
Oh you think that's too long a range? How doing your chart from about 80 million years ago (when mammals appeared on the scene). You will see that CO2 and temperature has fluctuated wildly over that time AND... that change in CO2 was not a leading indicator for temperature changes.
And the same way that fascism != capitalism and that free-market capitalism != corporatism (what was called mercantilism in the 18th and 19th C)
That being said the relationship between socialism and communism is much, much closer than the above mentioned "equalities."
Socialism allows for some private ownership while communism doesn't. But both are collectivist ideologies considering the state as supreme (with a few exceptions - Proudhon, Bakunin, Kropotkin - who never got large, politically influencial followings) and both reject individuals entering into compacts on their own; and both consider inequality of outcome to be a problem (if not a crime) that the state must prevent.
Again, the difference between the two matter only to those involved in the details. Just like there is a major difference between Anarcho-Capitalists and Classical Liberals. But just tell that to those who consider libertarians to be equal to free-market conservatives which are themselves be equal to neo-cons and all of them are equal to fascists.
- The missile launches have stopped.
- The industrial grade loudspeakers spewing propaganda have stopped AND have been torn down. Stopping the propaganda would have been something. Tearing down the loudspeakers and the 30' platforms they were on is next level sh!t.
- Bodies were exhumed in the 100s (if not 1000s now) and returned to SK and the US. DNA tests shows that these are not simply "bodies"
- Mine shafts leading to underground testing sites have been blocked up and the railroad tracks leading there have been ripped up.
- Mine fields are being dug up on both sides of the border.
- NK artillery piece were moved away from the border. The first time in close to 70 years.
- The Koreas are talking - and beginning development of shared commuter railroad lines. (This is amazing.)
But yeah. Nothing is happening.
First soldiers identified from remains returned by North Korea - BBC... https://www.bbc.com/news/world...
Sep 21, 2018 - The US Army has identified the first of the remains believed to be US troops killed during the Korean War and returned by Pyongyang, officials...
North and South Korea begin removing landmines along fortified DMZ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ News
Oct 1, 2018 - Troops from North and South Korea began removing some landmines along their heavily fortified border on Monday, the South's defence...
North and South Korea Hope to Link the Peninsula Through Railways...
fortune.com Briefing Korean peninsula
Dec 26, 2018 - North and South Korean officials try to connect a railroad during a groundbreaking ceremony for a project to modernize access the heavily...
Still waiting to hear about this treason and collusion y'all are blathering about.
I didn't vote for him but have been pleasantly surprised with the economy, with the progress in the Koreas, the fact that he isn't war-mongering in the mid-east.
The lies and stupidity over Kavanaugh and others - like those high school kids - makes me have an antipathy for the Democrats the same as I've had for the Republicans.
Maybe that's why we need to rethink our immigration policy. This isn't the 1880s. We don't need millions of strong backs and a willingness to work. These jobs, taxi drivers, truck drivers, warehouse workers, maintenance jobs (cleaning) are going to employ an ever dwindling amount of people. One person will be able to supervise numerous robots.
Compared to the 19thC we drink a lot less and have a lot less alchoholism. The figures for the 19th C because it averages out alcohol consumption over the entire population but there was a higher percentage of tea totalers. (The late 19th C, when we start having reliable statistics, had a strong prohibitionist movement.
And, if you look at the graphs you wont see binge drinking (a sign of alcoholism) or total annual consumption focused in countries with high stress jobs.
I don't think it's bullshit. And I'm not suggesting make work either. Make work is not the solution.
"What is my purpose in life?" Is a key question people ask themselves; go through periods of angst trying to understand.
We see people who have things simply given to them. (Welfare kids and trust-fund babies) How are they doing? We two groups one with all the money in the world, the other with just enough to survive. Are these people doing well? Are they producing art, literature? Are they happy? Or are they drugging themselves and frittering away their time?
We're going to have a real problem on our hands soon. We don't have a need for uneducated or rote work. And, here's the kicker some people (5% of the population) cannot be trained for higher skilled jobs. As automation continues it will not simply be warehouse jobs, truck driving jobs, taxi drivers, lawn care, street repair, farming positions but also a lot of low level office jobs. Notice how few professional typers there are anymore? That trend will continue.
Unlike 100 years ago we do not simply need a hard workers with a strong back.
This affects everything - from immigration policy, to social security (as we live longer and no longer have back breaking jobs) to everything. And "living wage" arguments don't cut it anymore. Take a look at the food service industry in NYC and other places that increased minimum wage. And UBI (Univeral Basic Income) is not a panacea either. People want to feel needed, useful and most are not self-driven to find satisfaction in the arts.
- the EU acquiesed by lowering tariffs was the work of someone with dementia?
- Renegotiating NAFTA.
- Pulling us out of the ridiculous Paris Climate Treaty (you know that China and India and others were not affected by the restrictions, and that there was income transfer from the US (read the taxpayers, presumably you) to other countries.
- China is now offering to buy a trillion dollars of US merchandise in order for the US to remove the tariffs (these tariffs matched China's tariffs on our goods)
AND that there is great news coming from the Korean Peninsula. Besides meetings the:
- loudspeakers (industrial sized cross-border propaganda systems) were torn down.
- Mines have and are being dug up
- bodies have been exhumed from mass graves and returned to SK and the USA - and yes DNA tests confirms the remains
- Discussions and work has been started on linking the peninsula via railroads and highways.
But you think he's demented. Really?
Aren't you ashamed of the US media post the Kavanaugh debacle, after the Covington Catholic High School craziness, after lie, after lie regarding Trump and his supporters.
And, in case it matters, I'm not a Republican. I'm not a conservative. And, I didn't vote for Trump.
What? You know there are many things to disagree with Trump on without making straw-man arguments.
The EU had a tariff on US manufactured cars. (IIRC it was 19%.) He brought up US tariffs (IIRC it was 3%) to EU levels. German car manufacturers then went to the EU and requested a drop in EU tariffs on US cars.
No. The wall has nothing to do with legal immigration - which allows in 1,000,000+ a year. It has to do with unfettered open borders which NO COUNTRY permits.
Why the fuck? Because it's been growing at this rate since the 1970s. It's not unreasonable to extend that for another 20 years. It MAY not happen, that's true.
But the pricing for photovoltaic cells has now dropped to the point where the cost of installation is the largest price factor. That is fantastic. Why? Because installation costs will drop fast as it becomes more commonplace and more modular.
The rate of growth has been doubling every 18 months or so since 1980. That's roughly 24 doubles. Is it too much to believe that exponential growth will continue for another 3 years (2 doubles)? How about 6 (4 doubles)? You make it seem as if I'm extrapolating 200 years into the future. No, I'm extrapolating 20 years.
My projection? OK
I would answer that question. As much as I dislike the Republican Party it is heads and shoulders above the Democrat Party as respects to individual rights.
In 2000 the social conservative and neo-con wing of the Republican Party was at a high point. The neo-cons were not particularly interested in nanny-statism but were for a surveillance state. The neo-cons have fallen in such low favor in the Republican Party that they are close to irrelevant today. And the socons have slowly and quietly ebbed away.
In 2008 over half of conservatives under 30 were fine with gay marriage. Now, 10 years later, I'm sure the trend has continued thus making over half of conservatives and republicans ok with gay marriage.
The left was pro-frees speech until recently. The left has lurched into Cultural Revolution land and is beginning to implode. however you would like to describe the left and Democratic party it is, at the moment, hostile to individual liberty.
Group rights, identitarian politics are antithetical with individualism.
Just like you presumed that Smollett was attacked by MAGA hat wearing thugs in Chicago? Or that little girl, Jazmine Barnes, was shot by a white racist? Or the Covington kids were racist and instigated the incident?
OK.
Just your bias showing through.
Which is the party that at least mouths individual rights? And which is the party that glorifies state control?
I've been vetted for many of my positions (in IT where the concern is fraud and not rape or murder).
This vetting process included getting fingerprinted, running a criminal background check and drug tests.
That was very intrusive. I think courts could very well uphold it as the physical intrusion to collect the DNA is on the same level as getting fingerprinted. And, the courts have already deemed that collecting such information is reasonable and necessary for the state.
Funny how you're concerned about this but you're probably not concerned about all the nanny state intrusions into your privacy and daily habits because "think of the children" or some other such trope.
That's why I qualified it. We don't know to what extent we can continue at this rate. I'm far more confident for photovoltaics than I am for wind.
.csv files to get exact figures.
Source: https://ourworldindata.org/ren...
You can download
You can see the module price (not including installation) has dropped from $66 / W to $0.62/W in 2016. That's a 100x decrease in price.
https://ourworldindata.org/gra...
The major cost now is installation. And that can only drop so far.
That's true.
But I was understating my case. Projecting the same growth rate to 2040 would be a 1000x increase over current production. That would take care of all electric generation plus allow for electric cars to supplant petrol based cars.
I find climate change to be a different category than the others.
One it has to do with falsifiable predictions for the future (which currently they are not - or have been proved wildly inaccurate.)
Second it has a lot to do with bad science reporting - but still the scientists are not rebuking the nonsense. Example that CO2 is a leading indicator for rise in temperatures.
Third, it has to with solutions for the problem. Not one of them brings acknowledges that renewable energy production has been growing in an exponential rate since the 1970s. If we continue at this rate for another 20 years we will be close to fossil fuel independent and another 40 years we will be out of the petro era completely. (With of course some exceptions.)
One quick example:
World-wide consumption of wind power was
0.0105 TWh in 1980
3.6 TWh in 1990
31.5 TWh in 2000
341.4 TWh in 2010
959.5 TWh in 2016
Let's extrapolate a 10x increase per decade
That places us at 3,000 TWh in 2020, 30,000 in 2030 and 300,000 in 2040.
Let's look at solar PV TWh
0 TWh 1980
0.3 TWh 1990
1.15 TWh 2000
33.8 TWh 2010
333 TWh 2016
"According to the Renewables Global Status Report (GSR) from REN21, roughly a fifth of the world’s electrical power production now comes from renewable sources. To be more precise, in 2013 renewable energy accounted for 22% of the global energy mix, up from 21% in 2012 and 18% in 2007."
Therefore by 2040 we will be able to source all our current use of electricity by renewables plus a lot more.
This will true with or without any Green New Deal. This will be true with or without governments changing what they're doing.
Funny how I don't hear this from all the doomsayers.
The fact that doomsayers don't mention the fact that the carbon footprint problem will be solved in 20 years makes me suspect.
There are many things that makes me suspect of the climate-change alarmists. (One of them is the slight of hand of using the phrase "climate change.")
Invading colonists?
Like the invading Han Chinese? Or the invading Persians?
the history of humanity, up to early modern times (roughly 1500 CE), was one of conflict between semi-nomadic people and civilized peoples (those living in cities with agriculture) .
Our history books may focus on the conflict between settled peoples but the primary change was whenever agricultural peoples came across lands held by semi-nomadic people. The agricultural (civilized) peoples considered this to be unsettled, unclaimed land.
If you look at states like NH there are far more trees now then when it was farm land in the early 20th C.
There are far more trees in NA today then there were in 1900.
Nobody denies that the climate is changing. Only the foolishness that is being proposed as solutions.
Oh - and little things such as the non-falsifiable claims.
Think of all the spam bots and election tampering bots being down for a day or so. All those muh Russia types should be cheering.
The woodfortrees site is an awesome resource.
The other one makes me very skeptical.
If temperatures are rising due to human CO2 production then, at earliest, the rise in temperatures should start at the beginning of the 20th C. The steam engine - the real cause for increased fossil fuel consumption wasn't developed until the end of the 18th C. If you're going to be particular about the phrasing - the first steam engine was developed in the late 17th C, but it wasn't until Watt's improvements, mainly the flywheel, that the steam engine came onto it's own. And, it wasn't until the early 19thC that high-pressure engines were developed.
Until this point - early 19thC - mechanized power, and the use of fossil fuels, was, for all practical purposes, the same as in classical times.
A graph on this site - https://ourworldindata.org/fos... - clearly shows that the rise of fossil fuel use (ie CO2 production) only really started by the beginning of the 20th C. And, since CO2 is the cause of global warming (according to AGW proponents), then any rise in temperature before the 20th C was not caused by fossil fuel consumption.
You do realize there was a little Ice Age at the end of the 17th C. So you're comparing the trough of a wave with a crest.
... that change in CO2 was not a leading indicator for temperature changes.
Why don't you compare crest to crest and do it over a realistic period of time - let's say 120 million years. Why 120 million years? Because that was when proto-mammals first appeared. The environment had been acceptable for mammals for millions of years before that.
Oh you think that's too long a range? How doing your chart from about 80 million years ago (when mammals appeared on the scene). You will see that CO2 and temperature has fluctuated wildly over that time AND
Which is why he was launching missiles? And why he didn't negotiate with Obama?
But it has nothing to do with Trump offering the correct carrot and stick.
Right. Got it.
Trump BAD.
Just so you start grasping things. I didn't vote for him. I didn't think he would do as well as he's done. But of course. Orange Man Bad.
And the same way that fascism != capitalism and that free-market capitalism != corporatism (what was called mercantilism in the 18th and 19th C)
That being said the relationship between socialism and communism is much, much closer than the above mentioned "equalities."
Socialism allows for some private ownership while communism doesn't. But both are collectivist ideologies considering the state as supreme (with a few exceptions - Proudhon, Bakunin, Kropotkin - who never got large, politically influencial followings) and both reject individuals entering into compacts on their own; and both consider inequality of outcome to be a problem (if not a crime) that the state must prevent.
Again, the difference between the two matter only to those involved in the details. Just like there is a major difference between Anarcho-Capitalists and Classical Liberals. But just tell that to those who consider libertarians to be equal to free-market conservatives which are themselves be equal to neo-cons and all of them are equal to fascists.
with the progress in the Koreas
You know NK hasn't stopped nuclear testing right?
- The missile launches have stopped.
... ...
...
... ...
- The industrial grade loudspeakers spewing propaganda have stopped AND have been torn down. Stopping the propaganda would have been something. Tearing down the loudspeakers and the 30' platforms they were on is next level sh!t.
- Bodies were exhumed in the 100s (if not 1000s now) and returned to SK and the US. DNA tests shows that these are not simply "bodies"
- Mine shafts leading to underground testing sites have been blocked up and the railroad tracks leading there have been ripped up.
- Mine fields are being dug up on both sides of the border.
- NK artillery piece were moved away from the border. The first time in close to 70 years.
- The Koreas are talking - and beginning development of shared commuter railroad lines. (This is amazing.)
But yeah. Nothing is happening.
First soldiers identified from remains returned by North Korea - BBC
https://www.bbc.com/news/world...
Sep 21, 2018 - The US Army has identified the first of the remains believed to be US troops killed during the Korean War and returned by Pyongyang, officials
North and South Korea begin removing landmines along fortified DMZ
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ News
Oct 1, 2018 - Troops from North and South Korea began removing some landmines along their heavily fortified border on Monday, the South's defence
North and South Korea Hope to Link the Peninsula Through Railways
fortune.com Briefing Korean peninsula
Dec 26, 2018 - North and South Korean officials try to connect a railroad during a groundbreaking ceremony for a project to modernize access the heavily
Still waiting to hear about this treason and collusion y'all are blathering about.
I didn't vote for him but have been pleasantly surprised with the economy, with the progress in the Koreas, the fact that he isn't war-mongering in the mid-east.
The lies and stupidity over Kavanaugh and others - like those high school kids - makes me have an antipathy for the Democrats the same as I've had for the Republicans.
Ok. That's simply click-bait.
If you're able to turn thoughts into speech then you're able to record it. How soon until memories can be saved? Such as the Potterverse' Pensieve.
These advances are close to fantastical. And the world goes ho-hum.
Maybe that's why we need to rethink our immigration policy. This isn't the 1880s. We don't need millions of strong backs and a willingness to work. These jobs, taxi drivers, truck drivers, warehouse workers, maintenance jobs (cleaning) are going to employ an ever dwindling amount of people. One person will be able to supervise numerous robots.
You know what the best way to reduce alcoholism is? Stress reduction and either a positive support network or mental health options.
See: https://ourworldindata.org/alc...
Compared to the 19thC we drink a lot less and have a lot less alchoholism. The figures for the 19th C because it averages out alcohol consumption over the entire population but there was a higher percentage of tea totalers. (The late 19th C, when we start having reliable statistics, had a strong prohibitionist movement.
And, if you look at the graphs you wont see binge drinking (a sign of alcoholism) or total annual consumption focused in countries with high stress jobs.
I don't think it's bullshit. And I'm not suggesting make work either. Make work is not the solution.
"What is my purpose in life?" Is a key question people ask themselves; go through periods of angst trying to understand.
We see people who have things simply given to them. (Welfare kids and trust-fund babies) How are they doing? We two groups one with all the money in the world, the other with just enough to survive. Are these people doing well? Are they producing art, literature? Are they happy? Or are they drugging themselves and frittering away their time?
I wish UBI was the answer. It's not. (IMHO)
We're going to have a real problem on our hands soon. We don't have a need for uneducated or rote work. And, here's the kicker some people (5% of the population) cannot be trained for higher skilled jobs. As automation continues it will not simply be warehouse jobs, truck driving jobs, taxi drivers, lawn care, street repair, farming positions but also a lot of low level office jobs. Notice how few professional typers there are anymore? That trend will continue.
Unlike 100 years ago we do not simply need a hard workers with a strong back.
This affects everything - from immigration policy, to social security (as we live longer and no longer have back breaking jobs) to everything. And "living wage" arguments don't cut it anymore. Take a look at the food service industry in NYC and other places that increased minimum wage. And UBI (Univeral Basic Income) is not a panacea either. People want to feel needed, useful and most are not self-driven to find satisfaction in the arts.
Really? You're serious.
I guess the fact that:
- the EU acquiesed by lowering tariffs was the work of someone with dementia?
- Renegotiating NAFTA.
- Pulling us out of the ridiculous Paris Climate Treaty (you know that China and India and others were not affected by the restrictions, and that there was income transfer from the US (read the taxpayers, presumably you) to other countries.
- China is now offering to buy a trillion dollars of US merchandise in order for the US to remove the tariffs (these tariffs matched China's tariffs on our goods)
AND that there is great news coming from the Korean Peninsula. Besides meetings the:
- loudspeakers (industrial sized cross-border propaganda systems) were torn down.
- Mines have and are being dug up
- bodies have been exhumed from mass graves and returned to SK and the USA - and yes DNA tests confirms the remains
- Discussions and work has been started on linking the peninsula via railroads and highways.
But you think he's demented. Really?
Aren't you ashamed of the US media post the Kavanaugh debacle, after the Covington Catholic High School craziness, after lie, after lie regarding Trump and his supporters.
And, in case it matters, I'm not a Republican. I'm not a conservative. And, I didn't vote for Trump.
Ha!
Why would Putin prefer "energy-independent" Trump over "don't-drill" Hillary? He wouldn't.
I hope, for your sake, that you don't believe your BS.
What? You know there are many things to disagree with Trump on without making straw-man arguments.
The EU had a tariff on US manufactured cars. (IIRC it was 19%.) He brought up US tariffs (IIRC it was 3%) to EU levels. German car manufacturers then went to the EU and requested a drop in EU tariffs on US cars.
This was not "anti-German" now was it?
No. The wall has nothing to do with legal immigration - which allows in 1,000,000+ a year. It has to do with unfettered open borders which NO COUNTRY permits.
So, the question is - are you a liar or a fool?