Even if we add an additional 10 vulns for 2000 and 2001, Win2000 still doesn't end up in first place.
Adding "an additional ten vulnerabilities" would simply make the data even more meaningless than the authors of security focus already assert the data to be.
"The numbers presented below should not be considered a metric by which an accurate comparison of the vulnerability of one operating system versus another can be made."
But I'll play along: Windows NT/2000 10 8 78 97 42 Debian 3 2 31 55 28
Debian GNU/Linux has fewer incidents associated with it than does Windows NT/2000. I suppose the Windows NT aslo includes IIS, but that's fair since Apache, is, or would be reported under the Debian category. (Also, IIS is referenced in this thread's topic title--but I digress). Also, the sharp decrease in 2001 incident reports has a lot to do with the fact that staistics were only taken through August of that year.
FYI, I don't use Linux (at present). I'm a MacOS X user.
Those statistics are both obsolete: These numbers are dated; the collection and calculation of data stopped in early August 2001 due to a site migration issue. We are currently working on this issue and should have it resolved in the near future.
and misleading: There is a distinct difference in the way that vulnerabilities are counted for Microsoft Windows and other operating systems. For instance, applications for Linux and BSD are often grouped in as subcomponents with the operating systems that they are shipped with. For Windows, applications and subcomponents such as Explorer often have their own packages that are considered vulnerable or not vulnerable outside of Windows and therefore may not be included in the count. This may skew numbers.
I'm quite familiar with Greg Easterbrook's arguments ridiculing satellite repair. In general. they seem sound.
However, the Hubble was designed to take advantage of this particular feature. Inded, the entire space telescope was designed-- for better or worse. around the STS. I'm sure that even without the shuttle, a space telescope of some sort would still be operated by NASA, but it wouldn't be the Hubble.
The original parent poster opined Look at hubble and Chandra and Cassini and Galileo -- they're giving us a boatload of useful data for a fraction of what the shuttle costs and gives us.
Yet one of those for programs was designed around to use the shuttle, and therefore can not be considered to be in opposition to it.
One of the original design goals of the STS was that it would be able to repair satellites in space-- but very few satellite programs have taken advantage of this design feature.
However, the Hubble was launched with a rather defective mirror. Subsequent repair missions have ameliorated this problem. The STS crew has also replaced cameras and gyroscopes, extending the useful lifespan of the telescope.
Of course, the Hubble's design was also constrained by NASA's choice of launch vehicle. It is questionable whether the benefits of in-flight repair outweigh limitations on orbit and aperature size.
That's primarily because the browsers have to support standards that predate stylesheets. I would imagine, though, that a stylesheet (or appendices to the default stylesheet) would be created with each document, on the fly.
I don't know why everyone's so crazy about on the fly formatting--an author should pay more attention to his writing style. Formatting considerations just get in the way.
In circular reasoning, the conclusion is used to justify the premise. A therefore A. Usually, this is obfuscated through language. Linux is a POSIX operating system because it adheres to the POSIX standard.
Circular arguments are meaningless.
Begging the question involves presupposing the question at issue. Linux couldn't have achieved enterprise class reliability without infringing on SCO's intellectual property, because enterprise class reliability can only be achieved through the hard work and professional engineering of outfits such as SCO.
Be careful with the begging the question link. That author's definition of One dimensionality is erroneus. He states that 'According to Euclid, no object can be one-dimensional".
Zero dimensions: point One dimension: line Two dimensions: plane
I prefer fractally dimensioned characters, myself.
haven't you seen those planetary books you read in elementry school. All the planets are in a line, one after the other and we all rotate together just as God intended it to be.
Wrong, hotshot. The earth doesn't rotate. The sun revolves around the earth. Just as G-d intended.
The Dell Laptop is weighed with the "travel module"-- that is, without a DVD/CD drive. The Apple drive is non removable.
I'm not sure why WXGA is so desirable in a laptop with a 15" screen. Perhaps some people have fantasies of watching HDTV content on a airplane, but it's not entirely clear how such content will get on to the laptop in the first place-- as, IIRC, there's no HD-DVD.
I suppose wou coulld copy a few gigs recorded on a desktop computer with a WinTV-Digital card, but it's still rather messy. Still, it's probably more practical than loading an DVS deck onto the airplane.
If I took the icon from Apple's system and distributed it with a rival system, Apple would be able to claim copyright infringement. However, if I included a picture of a generic trash can in my operating sytem, Apple would have a tough time proving that that element was in fact derived from Apple code, and was not in fact, derived from a generic trash can.
However, a design patent would protect this element. Presumably this will expire in twenty years.
It was based on copyright, not patents. Apple did not succeed in its lawsuit because the judge ruled that a "virtually identical" standard, rather that the looser "substantially similar" starndard, should be used in determining ehether infringement had occured.
Oh yea, cuz ls, grep, and vi would be SOOOO useful on an OS 10 machine. On Mac OS X, 'ls' is a BSD utility. 'grep' is a BSD utility. 'vi' is a BSD utilty (nvi)
However, gcc, autotools, emacs and many other tools are part of GNU.
The US government is prohibited from paying the Russians to launch missions-- as elements of the Russian Space Program currently export rocketry to Iran. The Europeans can pay. Lance Bass could pay (but he didn't), Paragons of virtue from the Russian nouveau riche could certainly pay. But NASA can't. Therefore, all these space programs have priority over NASA.
Slate started out as a subscription only service. Their sugar daddy, Microsoft, has since allowed them to subsist as a free, ad-supported venture. It's now a part of MSN. I'm not sure how well that marraige is working.
Salon started out as an ad-supported service, but now is very difficult to enjoy without a subscription.
Sounds like the 'crybabys' are those folks complaining about their lack of broadband Internet access.
You heard him folks, it's time for us slashdotters to get off our backsides, stop whining, and invest a couple of billion dollars into building telecommunications infrastructure.
It's good for the D.C advertising market. The Washngton Post was absolutely chock full of advertsing directed at perhaps a dozen people. I would imagine that the radio stations were full of strange commercials. It's rather comiic-- multibillion dollar faceless oligopolies, all jockeying for sympathy.
As a dove, I'm concerned about American lives-- this strategy of preemption will not result in a safer world. Even if the war itself is bloodless, the occupation will not be.
Ah, but I have to correct you: NTSC is 29.97 fps. 29.97 fps color video fits into the same bandwidth as 30 fps B&W video. The small difference apparently causes problems with timecodes and video editing.
I'm just working from pictures-- my grandfather worked at Ames Research Center on heat shield technology. But if you say engineering culture and management style remained constant from Gemini to Pioneer, who am I to disagree?
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The "previous" ./ story. Ah the brave new world beyond that pesky concept of backwards compatibility.
But remember, the fcc intends not to listen to public comments, unless empirical data is presented. Get researching!
Trolling right along
Both Winter AND Summer games.
Summer: Paris, 1900. Paris, 1924.
Winter: Chamonix, 1924. Grenoble, 1968. Albertville 1992
Even if we add an additional 10 vulns for 2000 and 2001, Win2000 still doesn't end up in first place.
Adding "an additional ten vulnerabilities" would simply make the data even more meaningless than the authors of security focus already assert the data to be.
"The numbers presented below should not be considered a metric by which an accurate comparison of the vulnerability of one operating system versus another can be made."
But I'll play along:
Windows NT/2000 10 8 78 97 42
Debian 3 2 31 55 28
Debian GNU/Linux has fewer incidents associated with it than does Windows NT/2000. I suppose the Windows NT aslo includes IIS, but that's fair since Apache, is, or would be reported under the Debian category. (Also, IIS is referenced in this thread's topic title--but I digress). Also, the sharp decrease in 2001 incident reports has a lot to do with the fact that staistics were only taken through August of that year.
FYI, I don't use Linux (at present). I'm a MacOS X user.
Those statistics are both obsolete:
These numbers are dated; the collection and calculation of data stopped in early August 2001 due to a site migration issue. We are currently working on this issue and should have it resolved in the near future.
and misleading:
There is a distinct difference in the way that vulnerabilities are counted for Microsoft Windows and other operating systems. For instance, applications for Linux and BSD are often grouped in as subcomponents with the operating systems that they are shipped with. For Windows, applications and subcomponents such as Explorer often have their own packages that are considered vulnerable or not vulnerable outside of Windows and therefore may not be included in the count. This may skew numbers.
I'm quite familiar with Greg Easterbrook's arguments ridiculing satellite repair. In general. they seem sound.
However, the Hubble was designed to take advantage of this particular feature. Inded, the entire space telescope was designed-- for better or worse. around the STS. I'm sure that even without the shuttle, a space telescope of some sort would still be operated by NASA, but it wouldn't be the Hubble.
The original parent poster opined
Look at hubble and Chandra and Cassini and Galileo -- they're giving us a boatload of useful data for a fraction of what the shuttle costs and gives us.
Yet one of those for programs was designed around to use the shuttle, and therefore can not be considered to be in opposition to it.
One of the original design goals of the STS was that it would be able to repair satellites in space-- but very few satellite programs have taken advantage of this design feature.
However, the Hubble was launched with a rather defective mirror. Subsequent repair missions have ameliorated this problem. The STS crew has also replaced cameras and gyroscopes, extending the useful lifespan of the telescope.
Of course, the Hubble's design was also constrained by NASA's choice of launch vehicle. It is questionable whether the benefits of in-flight repair outweigh limitations on orbit and aperature size.
That's primarily because the browsers have to support standards that predate stylesheets. I would imagine, though, that a stylesheet (or appendices to the default stylesheet) would be created with each document, on the fly.
I don't know why everyone's so crazy about on the fly formatting--an author should pay more attention to his writing style. Formatting considerations just get in the way.
"This machine does not require battery update. Installation will not occur."
seen on an iBook/Dual USB/500 with a very sick battery
I have an ibook-500
Much to my dismay:
voltage=12236 flags=5/0x005 amperage=1200 capacity=219 current=214 [97.7%]
In circular reasoning, the conclusion is used to justify the premise.
A therefore A.
Usually, this is obfuscated through language.
Linux is a POSIX operating system because it adheres to the POSIX standard.
Circular arguments are meaningless.
Begging the question involves presupposing the question at issue.
Linux couldn't have achieved enterprise class reliability without infringing on SCO's intellectual property, because enterprise class reliability can only be achieved through the hard work and professional engineering of outfits such as SCO.
Be careful with the begging the question link. That author's definition of One dimensionality is erroneus. He states that 'According to Euclid, no object can be one-dimensional".
Zero dimensions: point
One dimension: line
Two dimensions: plane
I prefer fractally dimensioned characters, myself.
Raise your hand if your first reaction to this article was to try to find a copy of Ltool...
haven't you seen those planetary books you read in elementry school. All the planets are in a line, one after the other and we all rotate together just as God intended it to be.
Wrong, hotshot. The earth doesn't rotate. The sun revolves around the earth. Just as G-d intended.
The Dell Laptop is weighed with the "travel module"-- that is, without a DVD/CD drive. The Apple drive is non removable.
I'm not sure why WXGA is so desirable in a laptop with a 15" screen. Perhaps some people have fantasies of watching HDTV content on a airplane, but it's not entirely clear how such content will get on to the laptop in the first place-- as, IIRC, there's no HD-DVD.
I suppose wou coulld copy a few gigs recorded on a desktop computer with a WinTV-Digital card, but it's still rather messy. Still, it's probably more practical than loading an DVS deck onto the airplane.
If I took the icon from Apple's system and distributed it with a rival system, Apple would be able to claim copyright infringement. However, if I included a picture of a generic trash can in my operating sytem, Apple would have a tough time proving that that element was in fact derived from Apple code, and was not in fact, derived from a generic trash can.
However, a design patent would protect this element. Presumably this will expire in twenty years.
It was based on copyright, not patents. Apple did not succeed in its lawsuit because the judge ruled that a "virtually identical" standard, rather that the looser "substantially similar" starndard, should be used in determining ehether infringement had occured.
Oh yea, cuz ls, grep, and vi would be SOOOO useful on an OS 10 machine.
On Mac OS X,
'ls' is a BSD utility.
'grep' is a BSD utility.
'vi' is a BSD utilty (nvi)
However, gcc, autotools, emacs and many other tools are part of GNU.
The US government is prohibited from paying the Russians to launch missions-- as elements of the Russian Space Program currently export rocketry to Iran. The Europeans can pay. Lance Bass could pay (but he didn't), Paragons of virtue from the Russian nouveau riche could certainly pay. But NASA can't. Therefore, all these space programs have priority over NASA.
Slate started out as a subscription only service. Their sugar daddy, Microsoft, has since allowed them to subsist as a free, ad-supported venture. It's now a part of MSN. I'm not sure how well that marraige is working.
Salon started out as an ad-supported service, but now is very difficult to enjoy without a subscription.
Sounds like the 'crybabys' are those folks complaining about their lack of broadband Internet access.
You heard him folks, it's time for us slashdotters to get off our backsides, stop whining, and invest a couple of billion dollars into building telecommunications infrastructure.
It's good for the D.C advertising market. The Washngton Post was absolutely chock full of advertsing directed at perhaps a dozen people. I would imagine that the radio stations were full of strange commercials.
It's rather comiic-- multibillion dollar faceless oligopolies, all jockeying for sympathy.
As a dove, I'm concerned about American lives-- this strategy of preemption will not result in a safer world. Even if the war itself is bloodless, the occupation will not be.
Ah, but I have to correct you: NTSC is 29.97 fps. 29.97 fps color video fits into the same bandwidth as 30 fps B&W video. The small difference apparently causes problems with timecodes and video editing.
I'm just working from pictures-- my grandfather worked at Ames Research Center on heat shield technology. But if you say engineering culture and management style remained constant from Gemini to Pioneer, who am I to disagree?