Ahh, when I was a lad it took 5 days between typing "s" and it appearing on our 2" screen, and actually running the programs? I'm still waiting for 'ls' to finish!
Personally I dont get dependency problems in linux, but thats what debian does for you, automatically gets the program for me, everything it needs, ad sets everything up automatically. Compare to windows, where I neede to manually hunt arround on the internet for a driver for a simple pcmcia network card. I've got better things to do then that:p
Usual everything-to-do-with-pc guy, hardly innovative, but theres a large ex-pat (mainly UK, Germany, Scandanavia) market. At the moment theres noone on the island that speaks English well and knows about computers. (I'll also be working in a bar and cleaning boats until buisness picks up)
I hope to move into some form of wireless broadband supplier, although I'm still unsure about EU regulations for 2.4GHz, but at the moment I have a net worth of £-15,000, and barely any capital. The cheap cost of living in Greece and availability of jobs in the summer means that things can get too bad. If buisness picks up enough to carry living through winter (need about &euro100 a week) then thats great.
Key thing is I'm not investing any capital at the moment (more then an advert in Athens News), and a moped is only &euro5 a day to hire long term.
If things work out, great. If they dont, I dont lose anything. I can still apply and get rejected for jobs in the UK over the internet.
No matter what happens, I'll live, and have some more noteworthy experience then working in Subway for a year.
If you run programs as a user (say an email attachment), theres a lot of things that the program cant do - install itself in inetd, run on ports 1024, write raw packets, etc. If you run it as root though, it can do pretty much anything.
That said, most Linux users will read their emails as a user, not open executable attachments, and have a hetrogenus environment (kde, gnome, windowmaker, blackbox, elm, pine, kmail, gmail, zmail, foomail etc) - its pretty hard to write something to take care of all that genetic diversity. the same users will then smugly download a prorgam, run "./configure; make; sudo make install". They dont read every linux of code (and who would), and although are more suspicious about programs, can still let hostile code on to their machines and run it as root.
If Joe User ran linux, even as a user, then downloaded a binary (or even source, he aint reading 10,000 lines of C++) "cool program", the install would simply say "please enter your root password for install to continue".
Linux and linux programs are more secure to the user, because the user is more wary. There are still major holes though.
The big advantage of linux is the variety of programs. Most worms only affect outlook because 90% of people use outlook, it's not worth affecting everything else. If only 10% used outlook, 10% eudora, 10% pegasus, 10% some other windows mail program, etc., it'd be more dificult to write a nasty program.
The best situation is where there is a diverse consumerate. When 90% of the desktops in the world run Windows & Outlook & Word & IE, the other 10% of people are fairly secure (except against DOSes). When 90% run Linux & KDE & Staroffice & Mozilla, they wont be secure. When there is genetic diversity, a worm cant take out everyone.
Having just graduated I'm almost to the point of considering that (pay for real-world work experience, no OSS doesnt count). Instead I'm being an entrepreneur for the summer.
Before asteroid deflection reaqlly becomes in the public eye we need a nice small asteroid to take out a city. 10,000,000 people wiped off the Earth is nothing in the long run, but it would wake up the world's governments.
Assuming they dont think it's the first strike of a nuclear war.
Would a city-buster hit in a field be enough? Tungasta wasn't was it?
Chances are the next asteroid to hit Earth will land in the Ocean, probably the Pacific. Would a city-buster cause enough of a tidal wave to knock a few coastal cities off? Anyoen got any predictions of devestation? Perhaps a computer model where you specify impact speed, mass and location and you get a rough idea of numbers killed and where?
I dont care if 5000 kids in africa die. I dont care if 5000 kids in america die. I do care if 6,300,000,000 people die. The entire acomlishments of mankind, gone in an instant.
Asteroid defence will have similar benefits as when they designed a computer network to survive a nuclear war, well, it should have anyway. Bush has just given Billions of american taxpayers dollars to help Africa, but ultimatly, Africa is what Africa does, it's overpopulated, full of warlords that spend 10%+ of their GDP on the military (by comparrison the U.S. spends 3%, slightly above average for the world), and isnt a great place to live. While they keep bringing 10 kids into a country where theres plenty of food, but no way to distribute it because of the lack of security, the problems will continue. Money doesnt solve everything, and the only quick fix solution to africa's problems would be the U.S (or a western alliance) taking over pretty much the entire continent. The only mid-term solution to Africa is golbalisation, but you probably dont like that either.
Saying "dont spend a penny on space until we fix things down here" is a stupid, short sighted and down-right ignorant as certain groups saying "dont give oversea's aid, spend it on social security instead".
IIRC the inflation happened when we pulled out of the euro, sorry, erm. As for unemployed? We're heading for that right now, part of the reason it's so "low" is because they are churning everyone through university (making degrees worthless). It's time for regime change, and the tories are the only ones going to win
So you dont contribute to linux or open source apps (which tons of companies benefit from) either? Including submitting a bug report, or even using it? Slashcode is open source. Ask Brian uses it, as do hundereds of other sites.
LOL, you really are a wanker arent you. I'll be voting Tories in the next run because labour are the worst government since the seventies (strike strike strike, rising taxes, failing infrstructure, typical socialism), they have some good ideas (80mph speed limit on motorways for starts, NHS reform, etc). Some time in the next 10 years I'm planning to run on a nice honest/libertarian platform as an independent candidate though, because all 3 major parties are terrible.
Yup, even without gain from returning packages, the space elevator is pretty cheap to orbit even with pricas now. The cost of the elevator is a little larger though
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Yes, space is risky, but it's *my* risk to take, you have no right telling me what I can and cant do
The department was better last year when we were still down there, It had a family feel, a room full of sun's which noone used, some irix machines left. Now we're in the engineering building, we dont get to use the common room, the department is 2 long narrow dreary corridors, and the inter-olib stuff (cup, ball etc) has almost gone the way of the dodo. in 18 months there wont be a single undergrad that lived in the glory days.
Yes, Gimp sucks. I've got a feeling there'll be linux versions of Adobe software in the next few years - I'm guessing porting from OSX wouldnt be that hard, and as more and more people upgrade to a linux environment it will become financially good for them.
Premiere is great, use 6.5 all the time, however we had 4.0 or 5.0 Light edition at uni, and it blew oranges.
Most people on a desktop, at work, use Office, IE, Outlook.
And I dont consider "ssh user@host" to be mangled, but then I dont use proxie etc. I use scripts occasionally to automate a few things (which take forever in windows).
If you use a computer like the majority of the working world, theres no difference between OSX, Windows, Linux, and whatever. I use linux because of the cost of windows, the fact it is an inefficient program launcher, and the fact theres no need to. Oh, and ace_freecell is way better then freecell.
But yes, use what is best for you, I dont care. However I do care if you use proprietry formats (you lose my custom, and you lose the chance to employ me if you require.doc's over.pdf's).
Oh, and PDF creation in linux is as simple as file/print/to PDF.
I keep running home to Windows because of the easy to use GUI
A Gui that I have to move the mouse all the way down the screen to open a menu? A GUI without middle click paste? A GUI without virtual & multiple desktops? You think thats easier?
hat aside, there is nothing worth doing in linux that you can't do perfectly well (perhaps a bit slower) in a VMware virtual machine. Period.
Aside from not constantly rebooting. What do I do all day, surf the web, write some stuff, more surfing, email, write more stuff. There is nothing I do that I can do in windows that I cant do in Linux faster and more efficently. Oh, and windows refuses to play a bunch of divx and xvid videos. (Plays some, but not all).
Install Debian, get everything set up, and then break it all at once with one bad apt command. Curse.
Yeah, I broke debian by aborting a dist-upgrade to sid. I also broke it once by "apt-get remove libc6". Does windows allow one-line (although you should use dselect really) instalation of almost any program you can think of?
find and SSH app
OK, I'm a little confused. Load up a terminal, type "ssh user@host" and it just works. What mroe do you want from an SSH app? Either way, Putty for debian
That hour lost in modem set up (I cant remember how long it too k me to set up my modem, cause it was years ago), would have been an hour spent in rebooting a windows system after installing the fiftieth driver/program/utility.
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Aside from the 2 hours of fantasy between the credits?
* Disclaimer: Don't steal music.
:D
I wouldnt dream of depriving you, or anyone else, of their music. I'll just copy it thanks
The kids don't normally have access to that sweet T-3 when they are at home.
But occasionally they do?
Ahh, when I was a lad it took 5 days between typing "s" and it appearing on our 2" screen, and actually running the programs? I'm still waiting for 'ls' to finish!
SO I'm sailing across the atlantic, under a U.K. Flag, and the U.S. Navy blows me out of the water? Isnt that piracy on the high seas?
Trolling top poster!
:p
Personally I dont get dependency problems in linux, but thats what debian does for you, automatically gets the program for me, everything it needs, ad sets everything up automatically. Compare to windows, where I neede to manually hunt arround on the internet for a driver for a simple pcmcia network card. I've got better things to do then that
Usual everything-to-do-with-pc guy, hardly innovative, but theres a large ex-pat (mainly UK, Germany, Scandanavia) market. At the moment theres noone on the island that speaks English well and knows about computers. (I'll also be working in a bar and cleaning boats until buisness picks up)
I hope to move into some form of wireless broadband supplier, although I'm still unsure about EU regulations for 2.4GHz, but at the moment I have a net worth of £-15,000, and barely any capital. The cheap cost of living in Greece and availability of jobs in the summer means that things can get too bad. If buisness picks up enough to carry living through winter (need about &euro100 a week) then thats great.
Key thing is I'm not investing any capital at the moment (more then an advert in Athens News), and a moped is only &euro5 a day to hire long term.
If things work out, great. If they dont, I dont lose anything. I can still apply and get rejected for jobs in the UK over the internet.
No matter what happens, I'll live, and have some more noteworthy experience then working in Subway for a year.
If you run programs as a user (say an email attachment), theres a lot of things that the program cant do - install itself in inetd, run on ports 1024, write raw packets, etc. If you run it as root though, it can do pretty much anything.
That said, most Linux users will read their emails as a user, not open executable attachments, and have a hetrogenus environment (kde, gnome, windowmaker, blackbox, elm, pine, kmail, gmail, zmail, foomail etc) - its pretty hard to write something to take care of all that genetic diversity. the same users will then smugly download a prorgam, run "./configure; make; sudo make install". They dont read every linux of code (and who would), and although are more suspicious about programs, can still let hostile code on to their machines and run it as root.
If Joe User ran linux, even as a user, then downloaded a binary (or even source, he aint reading 10,000 lines of C++) "cool program", the install would simply say "please enter your root password for install to continue".
Linux and linux programs are more secure to the user, because the user is more wary. There are still major holes though.
The big advantage of linux is the variety of programs. Most worms only affect outlook because 90% of people use outlook, it's not worth affecting everything else. If only 10% used outlook, 10% eudora, 10% pegasus, 10% some other windows mail program, etc., it'd be more dificult to write a nasty program.
The best situation is where there is a diverse consumerate. When 90% of the desktops in the world run Windows & Outlook & Word & IE, the other 10% of people are fairly secure (except against DOSes). When 90% run Linux & KDE & Staroffice & Mozilla, they wont be secure. When there is genetic diversity, a worm cant take out everyone.
There have never been rootkits for Linux? Trojaned apps?
No there havent, franky I'm surprised the moderators modded you up for such unconformist thoughts
Fuck Bill! And Free Kevin!
Kevin is free, and Bill gets laid more times then you
He pays them to work there.
Having just graduated I'm almost to the point of considering that (pay for real-world work experience, no OSS doesnt count). Instead I'm being an entrepreneur for the summer.
If you believe in evolution, you must acknowledge the same about yourself.
Hell no, I'm related to the Noblonians, we were already 17 minutes old when the universe came into being
Before asteroid deflection reaqlly becomes in the public eye we need a nice small asteroid to take out a city. 10,000,000 people wiped off the Earth is nothing in the long run, but it would wake up the world's governments.
Assuming they dont think it's the first strike of a nuclear war.
Would a city-buster hit in a field be enough? Tungasta wasn't was it?
Chances are the next asteroid to hit Earth will land in the Ocean, probably the Pacific. Would a city-buster cause enough of a tidal wave to knock a few coastal cities off? Anyoen got any predictions of devestation? Perhaps a computer model where you specify impact speed, mass and location and you get a rough idea of numbers killed and where?
I dont care if 5000 kids in africa die. I dont care if 5000 kids in america die. I do care if 6,300,000,000 people die. The entire acomlishments of mankind, gone in an instant.
Asteroid defence will have similar benefits as when they designed a computer network to survive a nuclear war, well, it should have anyway. Bush has just given Billions of american taxpayers dollars to help Africa, but ultimatly, Africa is what Africa does, it's overpopulated, full of warlords that spend 10%+ of their GDP on the military (by comparrison the U.S. spends 3%, slightly above average for the world), and isnt a great place to live. While they keep bringing 10 kids into a country where theres plenty of food, but no way to distribute it because of the lack of security, the problems will continue. Money doesnt solve everything, and the only quick fix solution to africa's problems would be the U.S (or a western alliance) taking over pretty much the entire continent. The only mid-term solution to Africa is golbalisation, but you probably dont like that either.
Saying "dont spend a penny on space until we fix things down here" is a stupid, short sighted and down-right ignorant as certain groups saying "dont give oversea's aid, spend it on social security instead".
IIRC the inflation happened when we pulled out of the euro, sorry, erm. As for unemployed? We're heading for that right now, part of the reason it's so "low" is because they are churning everyone through university (making degrees worthless). It's time for regime change, and the tories are the only ones going to win
So you dont contribute to linux or open source apps (which tons of companies benefit from) either? Including submitting a bug report, or even using it? Slashcode is open source. Ask Brian uses it, as do hundereds of other sites.
OK, the U.S. Constitution means swaut to the current regime, however wouldnt a good privacy ammendment to the constitution be a good idea?
Why havent *you* done it?
LOL, you really are a wanker arent you. I'll be voting Tories in the next run because labour are the worst government since the seventies (strike strike strike, rising taxes, failing infrstructure, typical socialism), they have some good ideas (80mph speed limit on motorways for starts, NHS reform, etc). Some time in the next 10 years I'm planning to run on a nice honest/libertarian platform as an independent candidate though, because all 3 major parties are terrible.
Greens? Snigger. They'd have us in the dark ages!
Yup, even without gain from returning packages, the space elevator is pretty cheap to orbit even with pricas now. The cost of the elevator is a little larger though
Yes, space is risky, but it's *my* risk to take, you have no right telling me what I can and cant do
The department was better last year when we were still down there, It had a family feel, a room full of sun's which noone used, some irix machines left. Now we're in the engineering building, we dont get to use the common room, the department is 2 long narrow dreary corridors, and the inter-olib stuff (cup, ball etc) has almost gone the way of the dodo. in 18 months there wont be a single undergrad that lived in the glory days.
Oh well, things change.
Yes, Gimp sucks. I've got a feeling there'll be linux versions of Adobe software in the next few years - I'm guessing porting from OSX wouldnt be that hard, and as more and more people upgrade to a linux environment it will become financially good for them.
.doc's over .pdf's).
Premiere is great, use 6.5 all the time, however we had 4.0 or 5.0 Light edition at uni, and it blew oranges.
Most people on a desktop, at work, use Office, IE, Outlook.
And I dont consider "ssh user@host" to be mangled, but then I dont use proxie etc. I use scripts occasionally to automate a few things (which take forever in windows).
If you use a computer like the majority of the working world, theres no difference between OSX, Windows, Linux, and whatever. I use linux because of the cost of windows, the fact it is an inefficient program launcher, and the fact theres no need to. Oh, and ace_freecell is way better then freecell.
But yes, use what is best for you, I dont care. However I do care if you use proprietry formats (you lose my custom, and you lose the chance to employ me if you require
Oh, and PDF creation in linux is as simple as file/print/to PDF.
I keep running home to Windows because of the easy to use GUI
A Gui that I have to move the mouse all the way down the screen to open a menu? A GUI without middle click paste? A GUI without virtual & multiple desktops? You think thats easier?
hat aside, there is nothing worth doing in linux that you can't do perfectly well (perhaps a bit slower) in a VMware virtual machine. Period.
Aside from not constantly rebooting. What do I do all day, surf the web, write some stuff, more surfing, email, write more stuff. There is nothing I do that I can do in windows that I cant do in Linux faster and more efficently. Oh, and windows refuses to play a bunch of divx and xvid videos. (Plays some, but not all).
Install Debian, get everything set up, and then break it all at once with one bad apt command. Curse.
Yeah, I broke debian by aborting a dist-upgrade to sid. I also broke it once by "apt-get remove libc6". Does windows allow one-line (although you should use dselect really) instalation of almost any program you can think of?
find and SSH app
OK, I'm a little confused. Load up a terminal, type "ssh user@host" and it just works. What mroe do you want from an SSH app? Either way, Putty for debian
That hour lost in modem set up (I cant remember how long it too k me to set up my modem, cause it was years ago), would have been an hour spent in rebooting a windows system after installing the fiftieth driver/program/utility.