Oh yes, in addition, a space elevator would slash the costs of access to space - communications satelites would be ten a penny. Solar satelites beaming energy back to earth would be financially possible. Green energy? Would be nice wouldnt it.
space may be full of resources, but unlike the resources in India, we have NO way to get TO them, extract them, and send them back, in any sort of reasonable way.
Thats a limited view on what counts as a resource. Without the money that went into space exploration, we would not have satelites. We wouldnt have GPS, we would have trans-global phone calls, we wouldnt be able to talk to people in Antarctica (the guys that discovered the hole in the ozzone layer - that was pretty essential research given the cost), we wouldnt have satelite TV, we wouldnt have live news reports from the other side of the world, etc.
we've flushed TRILLIONS of dollars into space exploration
Wheres that money gone? Its paid peoples wages, its bought goods. It's stayed in the U.S. economy.
Whats it got out of it? Scratch resistant lenses, blood presure measurers, pacemakers. I suggest, as the other guy said, you should read up on the medical benefits. The environmental/social benefits include things like the EPA, Greenpeace and Earth Day. Of course, theres Scoresmore benefits.
' Same thing goes for this moronic 'search for life'. I'm sure there IS life elsewhere in the galaxy. Will we ever find out or be able to do anything about it? Nope. Too far away. Who gives a crap
Lots of people actually, however SETI isnt government funded so thats not a valid argument.
What the HELL did going to the moon get us? ABSA-fucking-loutley NOTHING except a bunch of damn rocks sitting in a display case.
A picture of Earthrise. A realisation of how fragile our planet was. Also bragging rights over the USSR, which was important after they launched sputnik and Yuri first.
we've got damn good collaborative evidence that the speed of light is the end of the speedometer
So, sorry, I didnt realise that was you Mr. Hawking. The BPP is/was working on ways. Obviously its a long way off, but the potential might be there.
we're already doing that juuuuust fine in Iraq
Iraq, space exploration. I see the connection *rolls eyes*
When are people going to realise we need to spend money on educating, sheltering, clothing and feeding people, and giving them proper medical care, before we send ships off into the Atlantic to see if theres a faster way to India?
The confusion stems from the word "pirate". People invisige someone with a patch over their eye stealing a crate of CD's from a ship. If you use copyright infringer, its clear what you mean. You could also use License infringer - however I dont have to accept the license. I can buy a copy of windows, and refuse to accept the license (dont break the shrinkwrap). I can still keep the copy of the program though, or I can give it away, or even sell it. The only law I'm limited by is copyright law, which states I cant make a copy of the program.
Now I cant install the software because I would have to agree to the license (by opening the shrinkwrap, by clicking "I agree", etc), however I still own that copy.
Likewise, you can buy GPL software on a CD and completely ignore the license. You can probably even install it (have to check copyright law for that), however you are still restricted by copyright (no copying the program).
Microsoft does not sell copies of their software. They sell licenses.
Copyright is there to ensure that the only person allowed to make a copy is the copyright holder, or someone with explicit permission from the copyright holder. I buy a CD, the songs on it are copyrighted to EMI, for example. I can play the CD, sell it, or burn it. The only thing I cant do is copy it without EMI's permission (there are a few exclusions - e.g. academic use is one)
Microsoft sell me a copy of their software. They dont "sell" me a license to use it. If I want to use the software, I have to agree to a license (it probably says if you break this seal you agree to the license). If I dont agree to the license, my rights aren't infringed - I can sell the program, burn it, etc. I cant make a copy of it, except in a few cases that are outlined in law.
If I buy one copy, I cant make a copy of it without permission from the copyright holder. That permission is given to me in exchange for money, in the form of a license.
How many people died on Columbus' first voyage to america? How many people died on the voyages to the south pole? How many peopel have died on Everest?
Sturgis police arrested seven Sturgis men for placing more than 20 threatening letters on various businesses, schools, banks and at the post office. At least 12 signs were posted Monday morning. Another 20 were put up Tuesday evening, according to Sturgis police.
The letters all read "All your base are belong to us and you have no chance to survive, make your time."...
(offtopic BTW)
I dont know whether to laugh or cry -"This is no joking matter," he said. "During a time of war and with the present concern for homeland security, terrorist acts will not be tolerated and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."
Y'know, its sad that people are so unimpreessed and negative about this sort of thing. I wonder what you would have said 100 years ago when a couple of madmem tried flying, in the air!
Of course, you'll claim "right wing nonsense, all made up", while sitting there reading common drams like its a man page, however, feel free to Take your pick of news stories.
Firstly when I say "you", I mean "you americans" in general, many of whom do fund the Irish.
What about the rights of the Irish folk in Manchester that would really rather it be part of Ireland?
They arent the majority, nowhere near. Besides theres more in Liverpool, still nowhere approaching the majority, or even a significant statistical blip.
But the bad acts in the distant past of the English crown can hardly give it a legitimate claim on Irish territory now
So we agree this was generations ago, and is no different to the bad acts of the American settlers in irradicating the native Indians. You wouldnt be expected to break up the U.S. and have it run as seperate indian tribes would you?
Surely we should look at the fact no one in Northern Ireland alive today wasnt born in the UK (aside from immigrants, of course). They are British, their parents are British, their grandparents are, etc.
No one alive today can remember a person that can remember Northern Ireland being anything but Britain. That's a pretty good claim to it being Britain. If we go back far enough, every country in the world is "occupying" another "country".
Of course, if the people of Northern Ireland want to leave the UK, thats their choice. Trouble is, they dont. Whether this is because 10 generations ago the British crown planted settlers there is irrelevent.
Attrocities by the Ulster Unionists and RUC (which doesnt exist anymore) are outright condemmed by everyone in parliment. Sinn Fein dont outright condemm the IRA even when they blow up little kids.
the ongoing illegal occupation of Irish soil itself
No, its not Irish soil, it's British soil. Same as America is American soil, Canada is Canadian soil and Calais is French soil (used to be British). It has been for generations and generations.
War is hell the 'resistance'
What do you think Belfast is like at the moment? When was the last time you went there? Northern Ireland isnt under a military occupation, it hasnt just been invaded by a foreign power. Its a democratic country with the right to self determination, and has been Brittish soil for 400 years! I can think of some countries that werent arround back then, for example, AMERICA. If Northern Ireland is being occupied, then so is America, Austrailia, Much of South America, Africa, etc.
When an occupation has been going on for a decade or two, and you havent got democracy and the right to self determination, then you've got a point in resisting. Northern Ireland isnt like this, no matter what propaganda you read.
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Didnt you hear, Duke Nukem Forever has been released on the Atari 2600!
And the right of self determination of the people in Northern Ireland? The people that want to remain part of the UK? It's like saying the U.S. should "withdraw" from southern states because a minority there support succession.
What really annoys me is the fact that time and again U.S. Presidents shake hands with that murderous bastard that is Gerry Adams. I wonder how many Americans fund AlQueda freedom fighters? None? Why? Because they blew up 2 massive buildings. Why do they continue to support the IRA, which, although dormant as recent, has blown up towns and cities across the UK. Just over 10 years ago they tried to blow up a gasworks in Warrington, which would have caused casualties in the hundereds, at best. They were foiled, and the perpetrators caught. In revenge they blew up a bin outside Macdonalds on a busy high street, the day before Mothers Day, killing 2 innocent little boys.
Yet you still go "rar rar up the republic, down with the occupation". You really have no idea about what the people of Northern Ireland want, its just a few lunatics that *you* fund that disrupt the lives of the people of Northern Ireland, and the mainland.
until the Libertarian Party has a chance of winning,
You wont have that unless you vote for them, its the viscious circle of a two-party system that America is stuck with. Until you get something like STV (single transferable vote, if your first choice doesnt win, then your second choice counts), or even the Fren*h two-tier system (vote on the candidates, then vote), you'll be stuck. Free state seems like a great idea, but it aint going to happen, because most people wont move there.
Unfortunately, this post will probably be added to my FBI file.:(
Yes, but how do ensure you are making the most of what you already have. If your OS has a setting that by default takes up 50MB of ram, and controls bridging your network and firewire card (for example), you might not realise it exists. Turn that off and you've just saved yourself a ram upgrade.
You can buy a faster hard drive, or you can change hdparm. Same result, one costs money, the other costs 5 minutes.
If someone is getting twice the frame rates you are with the same hardware, you should also be able to get those frame rates. Twiddle a setting and you save big bucks on a new video card.
Yeah, just like we created the IRA by invading their country hundereds of years ago. They can blow up kids in towns, and all they get is more funding from the americans.
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Or you sould stay in the bathroom and surf the web on your bog roll
It's a dupe, what more do you expect
Whoever said traffic was forced to halt? Why do you think bullbars were invented?
Oh yes, in addition, a space elevator would slash the costs of access to space - communications satelites would be ten a penny. Solar satelites beaming energy back to earth would be financially possible. Green energy? Would be nice wouldnt it.
space may be full of resources, but unlike the resources in India, we have NO way to get TO them, extract them, and send them back, in any sort of reasonable way.
Thats a limited view on what counts as a resource. Without the money that went into space exploration, we would not have satelites. We wouldnt have GPS, we would have trans-global phone calls, we wouldnt be able to talk to people in Antarctica (the guys that discovered the hole in the ozzone layer - that was pretty essential research given the cost), we wouldnt have satelite TV, we wouldnt have live news reports from the other side of the world, etc.
we've flushed TRILLIONS of dollars into space exploration
Wheres that money gone? Its paid peoples wages, its bought goods. It's stayed in the U.S. economy.
Whats it got out of it? Scratch resistant lenses, blood presure measurers, pacemakers. I suggest, as the other guy said, you should read up on the medical benefits. The environmental/social benefits include things like the EPA, Greenpeace and Earth Day. Of course, theres Scores more benefits.
' Same thing goes for this moronic 'search for life'. I'm sure there IS life elsewhere in the galaxy. Will we ever find out or be able to do anything about it? Nope. Too far away. Who gives a crap
Lots of people actually, however SETI isnt government funded so thats not a valid argument.
What the HELL did going to the moon get us? ABSA-fucking-loutley NOTHING except a bunch of damn rocks sitting in a display case.
A picture of Earthrise. A realisation of how fragile our planet was. Also bragging rights over the USSR, which was important after they launched sputnik and Yuri first.
we've got damn good collaborative evidence that the speed of light is the end of the speedometer
So, sorry, I didnt realise that was you Mr. Hawking. The BPP is/was working on ways. Obviously its a long way off, but the potential might be there.
we're already doing that juuuuust fine in Iraq
Iraq, space exploration. I see the connection *rolls eyes*
Finally, a story where The Turd Report is ontopic, he can do reports straight from the scene
Do you have a link to the judgement?
Why don't you all just sod off and NOT BUY ANY MORE CD'S!!!!!!!
Cause they wont have any income, so will sue us for $1E12 for boycotting their product.
You know that lawsuits are ridiculous when they are measured in $10^x.
When are people going to realise we need to spend money on educating, sheltering, clothing and feeding people, and giving them proper medical care, before we send ships off into the Atlantic to see if theres a faster way to India?
hey, I live 6,000 miles away, it's a little hard to read from here, I had to squint as it was!
When will someone realise this is what we need? *sigh*.
OK, its not that cut and dry, how are nanotubes going? Are they at macroscopic size, or required tension yet?
Of course, running before you can crawl isnt that good an idea. We'll need to do things like building a suspension bridge out of them
Any software is a copyrighted work.
err, what about public domain?
The confusion stems from the word "pirate". People invisige someone with a patch over their eye stealing a crate of CD's from a ship. If you use copyright infringer, its clear what you mean. You could also use License infringer - however I dont have to accept the license. I can buy a copy of windows, and refuse to accept the license (dont break the shrinkwrap). I can still keep the copy of the program though, or I can give it away, or even sell it. The only law I'm limited by is copyright law, which states I cant make a copy of the program.
Now I cant install the software because I would have to agree to the license (by opening the shrinkwrap, by clicking "I agree", etc), however I still own that copy.
Likewise, you can buy GPL software on a CD and completely ignore the license. You can probably even install it (have to check copyright law for that), however you are still restricted by copyright (no copying the program).
Microsoft does not sell copies of their software. They sell licenses.
Copyright is there to ensure that the only person allowed to make a copy is the copyright holder, or someone with explicit permission from the copyright holder. I buy a CD, the songs on it are copyrighted to EMI, for example. I can play the CD, sell it, or burn it. The only thing I cant do is copy it without EMI's permission (there are a few exclusions - e.g. academic use is one)
Microsoft sell me a copy of their software. They dont "sell" me a license to use it. If I want to use the software, I have to agree to a license (it probably says if you break this seal you agree to the license). If I dont agree to the license, my rights aren't infringed - I can sell the program, burn it, etc. I cant make a copy of it, except in a few cases that are outlined in law.
If I buy one copy, I cant make a copy of it without permission from the copyright holder. That permission is given to me in exchange for money, in the form of a license.
AFAIK IANAL. YMMV,RTFM.
so you mean to say that we may have 2,000 years left to wait?
It would have been here this morning, but it's stuck in traffic on the 415...
How many people died on Columbus' first voyage to america? How many people died on the voyages to the south pole? How many peopel have died on Everest?
Sturgis police arrested seven Sturgis men for placing more than 20 threatening letters on various businesses, schools, banks and at the post office. At least 12 signs were posted Monday morning. Another 20 were put up Tuesday evening, according to Sturgis police.
The letters all read "All your base are belong to us and you have no chance to survive, make your time."
(offtopic BTW)
I dont know whether to laugh or cry -"This is no joking matter," he said. "During a time of war and with the present concern for homeland security, terrorist acts will not be tolerated and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."
Y'know, its sad that people are so unimpreessed and negative about this sort of thing. I wonder what you would have said 100 years ago when a couple of madmem tried flying, in the air!
I was a Fool to be a Human Shield for Saddam
Of course, you'll claim "right wing nonsense, all made up", while sitting there reading common drams like its a man page, however, feel free to Take your pick of news stories.
Firstly when I say "you", I mean "you americans" in general, many of whom do fund the Irish.
What about the rights of the Irish folk in Manchester that would really rather it be part of Ireland?
They arent the majority, nowhere near. Besides theres more in Liverpool, still nowhere approaching the majority, or even a significant statistical blip.
But the bad acts in the distant past of the English crown can hardly give it a legitimate claim on Irish territory now
So we agree this was generations ago, and is no different to the bad acts of the American settlers in irradicating the native Indians. You wouldnt be expected to break up the U.S. and have it run as seperate indian tribes would you?
Surely we should look at the fact no one in Northern Ireland alive today wasnt born in the UK (aside from immigrants, of course). They are British, their parents are British, their grandparents are, etc.
No one alive today can remember a person that can remember Northern Ireland being anything but Britain. That's a pretty good claim to it being Britain. If we go back far enough, every country in the world is "occupying" another "country".
Of course, if the people of Northern Ireland want to leave the UK, thats their choice. Trouble is, they dont. Whether this is because 10 generations ago the British crown planted settlers there is irrelevent.
Attrocities by the Ulster Unionists and RUC (which doesnt exist anymore) are outright condemmed by everyone in parliment. Sinn Fein dont outright condemm the IRA even when they blow up little kids.
the ongoing illegal occupation of Irish soil itself
No, its not Irish soil, it's British soil. Same as America is American soil, Canada is Canadian soil and Calais is French soil (used to be British). It has been for generations and generations.
War is hell
the 'resistance'
What do you think Belfast is like at the moment? When was the last time you went there? Northern Ireland isnt under a military occupation, it hasnt just been invaded by a foreign power. Its a democratic country with the right to self determination, and has been Brittish soil for 400 years! I can think of some countries that werent arround back then, for example, AMERICA. If Northern Ireland is being occupied, then so is America, Austrailia, Much of South America, Africa, etc.
When an occupation has been going on for a decade or two, and you havent got democracy and the right to self determination, then you've got a point in resisting. Northern Ireland isnt like this, no matter what propaganda you read.
Didnt you hear, Duke Nukem Forever has been released on the Atari 2600!
I think I'm a little too late to get the venture capital to let me do things like eat
And the right of self determination of the people in Northern Ireland? The people that want to remain part of the UK? It's like saying the U.S. should "withdraw" from southern states because a minority there support succession.
What really annoys me is the fact that time and again U.S. Presidents shake hands with that murderous bastard that is Gerry Adams. I wonder how many Americans fund AlQueda freedom fighters? None? Why? Because they blew up 2 massive buildings. Why do they continue to support the IRA, which, although dormant as recent, has blown up towns and cities across the UK. Just over 10 years ago they tried to blow up a gasworks in Warrington, which would have caused casualties in the hundereds, at best. They were foiled, and the perpetrators caught. In revenge they blew up a bin outside Macdonalds on a busy high street, the day before Mothers Day, killing 2 innocent little boys.
Yet you still go "rar rar up the republic, down with the occupation". You really have no idea about what the people of Northern Ireland want, its just a few lunatics that *you* fund that disrupt the lives of the people of Northern Ireland, and the mainland.
until the Libertarian Party has a chance of winning,
:(
You wont have that unless you vote for them, its the viscious circle of a two-party system that America is stuck with. Until you get something like STV (single transferable vote, if your first choice doesnt win, then your second choice counts), or even the Fren*h two-tier system (vote on the candidates, then vote), you'll be stuck. Free state seems like a great idea, but it aint going to happen, because most people wont move there.
Unfortunately, this post will probably be added to my FBI file.
If you were that paranoid post as an AC.
Yes, but how do ensure you are making the most of what you already have. If your OS has a setting that by default takes up 50MB of ram, and controls bridging your network and firewire card (for example), you might not realise it exists. Turn that off and you've just saved yourself a ram upgrade.
You can buy a faster hard drive, or you can change hdparm. Same result, one costs money, the other costs 5 minutes.
If someone is getting twice the frame rates you are with the same hardware, you should also be able to get those frame rates. Twiddle a setting and you save big bucks on a new video card.
Yeah, just like we created the IRA by invading their country hundereds of years ago. They can blow up kids in towns, and all they get is more funding from the americans.
I certainly can't swing on a swing [uspto.gov].
Sorry, thats too ridiculous to be believeable - whats the catch?