Yeah, you're right. His father was much worse. At least he could talk in public without sounding like a retard. He just sounded like a dick. This recent one sounded like a retarded dick. And that previous list left off:
The UK The US
Unless shooting unarmed commuters and filming private citizens is cool, which I don't agree with at all, actually.
The OLPC is one of the most botched projects in my memory.
I want a cheap FOSS laptop more than most people, but it was a horrid design and very poorly implemented.
I've run machines from TRS-DOS, MS-DOS, Geoworks, EVERY Windows, Ubuntu, Zenwalk, FreeBSD, Amiga, Atari, several horrid commercial OSes for video production (Chyron was horrifying). But Sugar has to be the worst OS I ever laid eyes on. It didn't work at all. I couldn't even figure out how to open one damn thing, and what little experimenting I did was PAINFULLY slow and awkward. I could barely open wikipedia.
Can we please just have a FOSS XP clone with all our favorite apps and Urban Terror?
Firefox Thunderbird Winamp (or an exact replica) Gimp Open Office write Nero (clone) Pidgin utorrent (clone) Zsnes Urban Terror.
This suite of tools works perfectly in XP, and well and fast. It seems like we could have a nix distro with these included on a laptop for $200.
The Space program is the ONLY good thing besides the Internet the US government has done since JFK caught a bullet in the head. Let's not cut it please.
Obama is a total corporate hooker. He selected a monsanto poster child for department of agriculture. An RIAA poster boy for the copyright courts. A lying talking head for surgeon general. Every cabinet position is basically filled with a corporate criminal with a long history of doing everything possible bad for people and families, and good for corporate bottom lines. The only reason the 5 media companies that run every tv station, book publisher, and newspaper (viacom, aol/time, bertelsmann, disney, news corp) picked him as president is exactly that.
He's already totally bent over for the oil companies, and that was a major part of his campaign!!!
Both parties (D & R) are completely contrary to the will of the people, and are actively promoting prescription meds and media lies to keep the populace too stupid to realize whats going on. They are ruining human lives, families, and also destroying the environment we rely on to survive, while feeding us cancerous toxins and dumbing down our schools.
It's been this way since they killed JFK. It's been all down hill and anti-everything good in the world since that day to this, and will be till Americans arm themselves and take the power back with violence.
But it will never happen because the corporations have made us all too stupid, lazy, sick, and comfortable to even realize what the fuck is going on.
Buy a gun and set fire to something corporate. There's really no alternatives left.
Define "advanced". Ubuntu currently comes with like 7 competing and counteracting audio protocols (Pulse, ALSA, JACK, etc...). I would say this totally sucks, but you could say that makes it more "advanced".:P
It's not Open Source, but it is based on the GPL'ed Quake 3 engine, and it's probably one of the funnest FPS in existence. And it's free, and plays GREAT in Ubuntu!!
I don't think your invisible friend wants you trolling for flame wars.
Most of the research I did personally on religion long before I saw the movie corroborates his views almost exactly.
I think the movie "9/11 Mysteries" does a much better job than "Zeitgeist" in regards to section two, however.
As to section three, well, it's pure speculation, tacked on a little poorly at the end, kind of like your "Revelations". Though not done nearly as poorly as old John did those.
But it's good you know who not to talk to and then talk anyway. At least part of your cerebral cortex is still functioning, and you might actually LEARN something somewhere along the way.
Translation of text is a complex issue, and the various languages and scraps of papyrus that they put together to compile that document are horrendously incomplete, damaged, varied, forged, and mistranslated.
That is just another reason why people of "faith" are idiots. They completely rely on a text written by a barbarous genocidal tribe from prehistory that was horribly truncated, altered, and partially destroyed all along the way, and then became a political control doctrine for the Roman Empire.
I'm not claiming there's no god. I'm just claiming THAT book, it's followers, and the economic might of the historical movement are all completely full of shit. Of course I think that turning the other cheek is a good idea, but if any retarded monkey scribbled 600 pages of text there would probably be one or two good sentences in it, in between the Ishmael begat Esther, and Esther begat Judah, and Judah begat.... WHO GIVES A FUCK? You're leading your life based on THAT?
Wake the fuck up. It's a big beautiful universe we're in, and YES, PERHAPS there is a god behind it, but there's no FUCKING WAY he had or has ANYTHING to do with the Jews, with religion, or with institutionalized spirituality. I think Jesus would probably still be throwing tables around in all the modern temples, except that he is a mythological figure largely based on about 7 previous religious figures.
I discovered a lot of the information in Zeitgeist on my own when I was trying to find a church that was "real". The movie has since come out and put an astoundingly accurate depiction in an easy to follow digest.
Don't let your parents anachronistic ideas of right and wrong sway you. No matter how sweet your mom was (or is, god willing), if she is religious, she's fucking ignorant. Period.
Not that it matters. You obviously don't know how to read, or are poorly educated, or you'd know about Horus, Attis, Krishna, Dionysus, Mithra, Orus, Odin, Baal, Indra, Bali, Jao, Crite, Zoroaster, Wittoba, Thammuz, Adad, Alcides....... Any of the literally HUNDREDS of prehistoric "saviors" that were touted at the time to be teaching the salvation of humanity.
At any rate, the only poisonous aspect of religion, and why I object to it, is because it limits the scientific advancement of humanity, most particularly in ways that it would be possible for all of us to lead more healthy, happy, and fulfilling lives.
Otherwise, kneel down nightly to your imaginary homo-erotic buddy in the sky all you want. Just know that when you do it, you are wasting your time, and doing ANYTHING, literally ANYTHING more constructive would better suit you, your family, the species, and ultimately the entire ecosystem we live in.
The bible IS ancient, but not as ancient as many better texts that we have from prehistory, particularly if you study Chinese civilization at all.
If you can refute ANY of the facts surrounding the fictitious nature of Christianity, and do it without citing The bible or other "christians", I'd love to hear it. Secular historians existed at that time, and wrote in depth about war, society, love, and humanity. There is literally NO mention of Jesus until some Roman Empire bureaucrats decided that one religion for the entire empire would make things run smoother.
And then they fabricated yours, largely based on previous pagan religions and ceremonies, with hardly any facade of originality or creativity added to the mix.
Beyond that, your religion caused the crusades, the inquisition, other witch hunts, disease, stifled science, and even got the most recent mass murderer George W. Bush elected.
I'm sorry, but FUCK your religion. Fuck it right in it's fake, murderous, self-righteous, bigoted, homophobic, ignorant, backwards, retarded, entrenched, corrupt and inhumane ass. Fuck it all night, and fuck you. Read some books besides that Roman propaganda.
If you want somebody infinitely better educated and more eloquent than I am, you can start with George Bernard Shaw, an astoundingly clear thinker and strongly rational presence that did more for humanity just in his dissertations than most "saints" ever did, even the ones who OPENLY DOUBTED your faith, like Mother Theresa.
Jesus most certainly was against paying taxes. My biblical education comes of actually reading the bible. I found literally hundreds of discrepancies within the text the first time I read it as a pre-teen, and have had a hard time finding anything of grave validity since then, despite a rereading of many different sections.
Never mind the base hypocrisy of most modern religion. The text itself is horrendous: At times promoting genocide, admonishing slavery, endorsing patricide, and glorifying martyrdom, which is clearly an ineffective political action.
But even if you want to selective glean a smidgen of advice from the text: Jesus said there was nothing lower than tax collectors and prostitutes. Also during the "render onto Caesar what is Caesar's" debate, the text clearly states that they were attempting to goad him into indicting himself by saying, "Don't pay taxes". Further, I would translate "Render onto Caesar what is Caesar's" as "Don't use money at all. It's a debt slavery system that devalues human labor, and human life. Trade goods or services at a value that pays you direct dividends that are fair to you."
But then again, in that section the Pharisees were trying to entrap him, so I doubt he could state exactly clearly what he meant, not that the "scholars" who wrote most of the fiction around 150 AD that constitutes the fairy tales we're debating were going to state that plainly, since they were after all trying to create a religion that would help them (successfully) subjugate a vast empire, in this case the Roman Empire, and in modern times the US, and many other nations.
Religion is just a form of propaganda and disinformation to control the masses. It was done malevolently and intentionally and continues to this day.
Human health and happiness would be much better served by observing and improving reality:
Organic fresh meat, fruit, and vegetables are healthy. Exercise is healthy. Monogamy is healthy. Usury is unhealthy. Pollution is unhealthy. Television is unhealthy.
Beyond these self-evident truths, it's almost all exploitation and human suffering. Religion does nothing but hide these facts behind faith and tradition, for no other reason than to control the masses and line the pockets of some very obvious charlatans. I think if there WAS a Jesus, he would agree almost unequivocally, based on my reading.
ummmm no. Giant squids exist because of irrefutable evidence. God on the other hand..... Seems like an excuse for assholes to perpetrate genocide, enslave sheepish people, and vote for corporate monsters.
I'm not saying there's no chance of a god, just that if you say there is one out loud, you are probably a butt plug, a complete sycophant, and an intellectually mediocre douche who has problems living in reality and/or understanding basic logic.
There could totally be a god. I'm just not some ignoramus who bothers debating the point, since if there is one, he is a right sick fuck, and vastly beyond mortal and moral comprehension.
Further, nearly every religious person has a pretty great difficulty upholding their religion. Jesus heavily inferred you should not pay taxes, yet most "Christians" I know are Republicans and support the corporate slavery that pervades our current way of life.
So..... If you are religious, you are clearly very ignorant and believe in hocus pocus and fairy tales, which at the very least makes you infantile.
I on the other hand, have no problem debating the existence of god or giant squid. But the debate is pretty silly since giant squid clearly exist, and the Judeo-Christian god (at least) certainly does not.
Is this supposed to make up for all the nazis he already appointed? It's like a game of duck, duck, goose, where every duck is a corporate bush appointee and the goose is the occasional nobel winning scientist.
I still have VERY little faith in the Obama presidency, though it's probably still to early to assume:
He will STILL not thoroughly investigate 9/11. He will STILL be more beholden to corporations than the American people. He will STILL be allies with maniacal genocidal fabrication states like Israel.
Excuse me, but I still prefer Mario Kart 64 to any title I've played on a newer console.
I mean DRM is killing the game industry, high prices are killing the industry, and crappy sequels are killing the game industry, but really most of the new games suck.
I still play Urban Terror (free), and Civilization 2, as well, because the newer versions suck and aren't fun.
I love how these megacorporations are killing innovation in every sector and then demanding government bailouts. WTF is going on here? Sell a decent product idiots!!!
A giant electromagnetic gun? Couldn't you speed a craft up to orbital velocity on an electromagnetic rail and just shoot it out of a really long barrel? I've always favored that approach. It seems more realistic than a space elevator built of nanotubes out of an asteroid.
Well hopefully in a fully functional and healthy capitalist economy SOMEbody sells GOOD stuff that outsells mediocre crap.
The current system isn't really capitalism, it's more of a corporate oligarchy, where there is very little real competition, and hence product quality goes down (McDonald's, Wal Mart, GM), while the prices do not really exponentially decrease with economies of scale like they are supposed to.
I'm all for capitalism, which in the current system puts me pretty firmly AGAINST corporations in general, who seem to be practicing localized authoritarianism and not competing at all.
My main point was that the PS3 is much harder to code for than a Windows box, and that Rockstar's failure to deliver good Windows code can't have been an oversight.
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Fucking faggots! Fuck you in your fucking ass! Religious idiot cock sucking whores! STICK IT IN YOUR MOTHER FUCKING ASS!
Yeah, you're right. His father was much worse. At least he could talk in public without sounding like a retard. He just sounded like a dick. This recent one sounded like a retarded dick. And that previous list left off:
The UK
The US
Unless shooting unarmed commuters and filming private citizens is cool, which I don't agree with at all, actually.
Maybe we can find out who killed JFK! Or who put thermate cutters in the WTC.
I'm not holding my breath though.
The OLPC is one of the most botched projects in my memory.
I want a cheap FOSS laptop more than most people, but it was a horrid design and very poorly implemented.
I've run machines from TRS-DOS, MS-DOS, Geoworks, EVERY Windows, Ubuntu, Zenwalk, FreeBSD, Amiga, Atari, several horrid commercial OSes for video production (Chyron was horrifying). But Sugar has to be the worst OS I ever laid eyes on. It didn't work at all. I couldn't even figure out how to open one damn thing, and what little experimenting I did was PAINFULLY slow and awkward. I could barely open wikipedia.
Can we please just have a FOSS XP clone with all our favorite apps and Urban Terror?
Firefox
Thunderbird
Winamp (or an exact replica)
Gimp
Open Office write
Nero (clone)
Pidgin
utorrent (clone)
Zsnes
Urban Terror.
This suite of tools works perfectly in XP, and well and fast. It seems like we could have a nix distro with these included on a laptop for $200.
I don't get it.
The Space program is the ONLY good thing besides the Internet the US government has done since JFK caught a bullet in the head. Let's not cut it please.
Obama is a total corporate hooker. He selected a monsanto poster child for department of agriculture. An RIAA poster boy for the copyright courts. A lying talking head for surgeon general. Every cabinet position is basically filled with a corporate criminal with a long history of doing everything possible bad for people and families, and good for corporate bottom lines. The only reason the 5 media companies that run every tv station, book publisher, and newspaper (viacom, aol/time, bertelsmann, disney, news corp) picked him as president is exactly that.
He's already totally bent over for the oil companies, and that was a major part of his campaign!!!
Both parties (D & R) are completely contrary to the will of the people, and are actively promoting prescription meds and media lies to keep the populace too stupid to realize whats going on. They are ruining human lives, families, and also destroying the environment we rely on to survive, while feeding us cancerous toxins and dumbing down our schools.
It's been this way since they killed JFK. It's been all down hill and anti-everything good in the world since that day to this, and will be till Americans arm themselves and take the power back with violence.
But it will never happen because the corporations have made us all too stupid, lazy, sick, and comfortable to even realize what the fuck is going on.
Buy a gun and set fire to something corporate. There's really no alternatives left.
Man, if you can't crash Ubuntu you are a total n00b. It's quite easy. My personal favorite way is to launch a BSOD in Windows ME in Virtualbox.
I thought he perpetrated horrendous acts of violence on that type of furniture? Define "like".
Damn, you are EXACTLY right in every way.
Define "advanced". Ubuntu currently comes with like 7 competing and counteracting audio protocols (Pulse, ALSA, JACK, etc...). I would say this totally sucks, but you could say that makes it more "advanced". :P
I have no problem filling up 8 gb of memory. I run several virtual machines on different sides of my compiz cube in Ubuntu.
But I'm a fucking weirdo. I doubt very much that anyone else is using that much ram that often. :)
It's not Open Source, but it is based on the GPL'ed Quake 3 engine, and it's probably one of the funnest FPS in existence. And it's free, and plays GREAT in Ubuntu!!
You obviously have not read much Bukowski. But I'll admit to emulating him very poorly.
My guess is that your religion precludes you from reading the truly great writers, since they are all too controversial.
Yet another way in which your institutionalized spirituality keeps you uninformed and ignorant on purpose.
I need to start a religion and cash in on the willful ignorance and stupidity of humanity. Too bad I'm not evil enough. *sigh*
Now that I've re-read it though, it is rather poorly worded. Sorry.
I don't think your invisible friend wants you trolling for flame wars.
Most of the research I did personally on religion long before I saw the movie corroborates his views almost exactly.
I think the movie "9/11 Mysteries" does a much better job than "Zeitgeist" in regards to section two, however.
As to section three, well, it's pure speculation, tacked on a little poorly at the end, kind of like your "Revelations". Though not done nearly as poorly as old John did those.
But it's good you know who not to talk to and then talk anyway. At least part of your cerebral cortex is still functioning, and you might actually LEARN something somewhere along the way.
The REAL Zeitgeist of 2008 was the movie "Zeitgeist". Probably the single best piece of film EVER:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197
Go and educate yourselves people!
You obviously have a vested interest.
Translation of text is a complex issue, and the various languages and scraps of papyrus that they put together to compile that document are horrendously incomplete, damaged, varied, forged, and mistranslated.
That is just another reason why people of "faith" are idiots. They completely rely on a text written by a barbarous genocidal tribe from prehistory that was horribly truncated, altered, and partially destroyed all along the way, and then became a political control doctrine for the Roman Empire.
I'm not claiming there's no god. I'm just claiming THAT book, it's followers, and the economic might of the historical movement are all completely full of shit. Of course I think that turning the other cheek is a good idea, but if any retarded monkey scribbled 600 pages of text there would probably be one or two good sentences in it, in between the Ishmael begat Esther, and Esther begat Judah, and Judah begat.... WHO GIVES A FUCK? You're leading your life based on THAT?
Wake the fuck up. It's a big beautiful universe we're in, and YES, PERHAPS there is a god behind it, but there's no FUCKING WAY he had or has ANYTHING to do with the Jews, with religion, or with institutionalized spirituality. I think Jesus would probably still be throwing tables around in all the modern temples, except that he is a mythological figure largely based on about 7 previous religious figures.
I discovered a lot of the information in Zeitgeist on my own when I was trying to find a church that was "real". The movie has since come out and put an astoundingly accurate depiction in an easy to follow digest.
Don't let your parents anachronistic ideas of right and wrong sway you. No matter how sweet your mom was (or is, god willing), if she is religious, she's fucking ignorant. Period.
Not that it matters. You obviously don't know how to read, or are poorly educated, or you'd know about Horus, Attis, Krishna, Dionysus, Mithra, Orus, Odin, Baal, Indra, Bali, Jao, Crite, Zoroaster, Wittoba, Thammuz, Adad, Alcides....... Any of the literally HUNDREDS of prehistoric "saviors" that were touted at the time to be teaching the salvation of humanity.
At any rate, the only poisonous aspect of religion, and why I object to it, is because it limits the scientific advancement of humanity, most particularly in ways that it would be possible for all of us to lead more healthy, happy, and fulfilling lives.
Otherwise, kneel down nightly to your imaginary homo-erotic buddy in the sky all you want. Just know that when you do it, you are wasting your time, and doing ANYTHING, literally ANYTHING more constructive would better suit you, your family, the species, and ultimately the entire ecosystem we live in.
The bible IS ancient, but not as ancient as many better texts that we have from prehistory, particularly if you study Chinese civilization at all.
If you can refute ANY of the facts surrounding the fictitious nature of Christianity, and do it without citing The bible or other "christians", I'd love to hear it. Secular historians existed at that time, and wrote in depth about war, society, love, and humanity. There is literally NO mention of Jesus until some Roman Empire bureaucrats decided that one religion for the entire empire would make things run smoother.
And then they fabricated yours, largely based on previous pagan religions and ceremonies, with hardly any facade of originality or creativity added to the mix.
Beyond that, your religion caused the crusades, the inquisition, other witch hunts, disease, stifled science, and even got the most recent mass murderer George W. Bush elected.
I'm sorry, but FUCK your religion. Fuck it right in it's fake, murderous, self-righteous, bigoted, homophobic, ignorant, backwards, retarded, entrenched, corrupt and inhumane ass. Fuck it all night, and fuck you. Read some books besides that Roman propaganda.
If you want somebody infinitely better educated and more eloquent than I am, you can start with George Bernard Shaw, an astoundingly clear thinker and strongly rational presence that did more for humanity just in his dissertations than most "saints" ever did, even the ones who OPENLY DOUBTED your faith, like Mother Theresa.
Jesus most certainly was against paying taxes. My biblical education comes of actually reading the bible. I found literally hundreds of discrepancies within the text the first time I read it as a pre-teen, and have had a hard time finding anything of grave validity since then, despite a rereading of many different sections.
Never mind the base hypocrisy of most modern religion. The text itself is horrendous: At times promoting genocide, admonishing slavery, endorsing patricide, and glorifying martyrdom, which is clearly an ineffective political action.
But even if you want to selective glean a smidgen of advice from the text: Jesus said there was nothing lower than tax collectors and prostitutes. Also during the "render onto Caesar what is Caesar's" debate, the text clearly states that they were attempting to goad him into indicting himself by saying, "Don't pay taxes". Further, I would translate "Render onto Caesar what is Caesar's" as "Don't use money at all. It's a debt slavery system that devalues human labor, and human life. Trade goods or services at a value that pays you direct dividends that are fair to you."
But then again, in that section the Pharisees were trying to entrap him, so I doubt he could state exactly clearly what he meant, not that the "scholars" who wrote most of the fiction around 150 AD that constitutes the fairy tales we're debating were going to state that plainly, since they were after all trying to create a religion that would help them (successfully) subjugate a vast empire, in this case the Roman Empire, and in modern times the US, and many other nations.
Religion is just a form of propaganda and disinformation to control the masses. It was done malevolently and intentionally and continues to this day.
Human health and happiness would be much better served by observing and improving reality:
Organic fresh meat, fruit, and vegetables are healthy.
Exercise is healthy.
Monogamy is healthy.
Usury is unhealthy.
Pollution is unhealthy.
Television is unhealthy.
Beyond these self-evident truths, it's almost all exploitation and human suffering. Religion does nothing but hide these facts behind faith and tradition, for no other reason than to control the masses and line the pockets of some very obvious charlatans. I think if there WAS a Jesus, he would agree almost unequivocally, based on my reading.
ummmm no. Giant squids exist because of irrefutable evidence. God on the other hand..... Seems like an excuse for assholes to perpetrate genocide, enslave sheepish people, and vote for corporate monsters.
I'm not saying there's no chance of a god, just that if you say there is one out loud, you are probably a butt plug, a complete sycophant, and an intellectually mediocre douche who has problems living in reality and/or understanding basic logic.
There could totally be a god. I'm just not some ignoramus who bothers debating the point, since if there is one, he is a right sick fuck, and vastly beyond mortal and moral comprehension.
Further, nearly every religious person has a pretty great difficulty upholding their religion. Jesus heavily inferred you should not pay taxes, yet most "Christians" I know are Republicans and support the corporate slavery that pervades our current way of life.
So..... If you are religious, you are clearly very ignorant and believe in hocus pocus and fairy tales, which at the very least makes you infantile.
I on the other hand, have no problem debating the existence of god or giant squid. But the debate is pretty silly since giant squid clearly exist, and the Judeo-Christian god (at least) certainly does not.
You forgot my group which realizes that all three of those groups believe ancient fairy tales and are horrifically full of shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNf-P_5u_Hw
Because musicians will not get the money.
Trust me, musicians don't get the money now!!!
Is this supposed to make up for all the nazis he already appointed? It's like a game of duck, duck, goose, where every duck is a corporate bush appointee and the goose is the occasional nobel winning scientist.
I still have VERY little faith in the Obama presidency, though it's probably still to early to assume:
He will STILL not thoroughly investigate 9/11.
He will STILL be more beholden to corporations than the American people.
He will STILL be allies with maniacal genocidal fabrication states like Israel.
I'm not holding my breath. And please don't respond about the 9/11 thing unless you want to discuss the found thermate residue and THIS PICTURE:
http://a986.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/72/l_a567c508f431db9f78e20057b5b59fb9.jpg
Excuse me, but I still prefer Mario Kart 64 to any title I've played on a newer console.
I mean DRM is killing the game industry, high prices are killing the industry, and crappy sequels are killing the game industry, but really most of the new games suck.
I still play Urban Terror (free), and Civilization 2, as well, because the newer versions suck and aren't fun.
I love how these megacorporations are killing innovation in every sector and then demanding government bailouts. WTF is going on here? Sell a decent product idiots!!!
A giant electromagnetic gun? Couldn't you speed a craft up to orbital velocity on an electromagnetic rail and just shoot it out of a really long barrel? I've always favored that approach. It seems more realistic than a space elevator built of nanotubes out of an asteroid.
There is a difference between suicide and murder. One is voluntary. DRM is not voluntary. Except with bit torrent, it actually is.
Well hopefully in a fully functional and healthy capitalist economy SOMEbody sells GOOD stuff that outsells mediocre crap.
The current system isn't really capitalism, it's more of a corporate oligarchy, where there is very little real competition, and hence product quality goes down (McDonald's, Wal Mart, GM), while the prices do not really exponentially decrease with economies of scale like they are supposed to.
I'm all for capitalism, which in the current system puts me pretty firmly AGAINST corporations in general, who seem to be practicing localized authoritarianism and not competing at all.
My main point was that the PS3 is much harder to code for than a Windows box, and that Rockstar's failure to deliver good Windows code can't have been an oversight.