Colin Png, director for Developer and Platform Evangelism,...
That just struck me, although it's not really news. Hire someone to be evangelic about your platform? At least that's another thing the Free software community can do infinitely better, infinitely more honestly, and without having to pay or coerce anybody into doing it.
in retrospect, it's hard, you know, to make something that makes a stupid person feel smart Not at all. Stupid people are generally easier to make feel smart. Stupid people feel smarter in general, too. I think it's a kind of protective mechanism.
It takes smarts to know the limits of your wisdom.
There's only been the POT release of F911, and it's the crappy CAM with no Patriot act or singing Ashcroft. I think your torrent is only the same as all the others, no DVD at all, but the same movie in MPEG format for easy burning to DVD. So don't waste your bandwidth.
It's the Shiny Objects Factor. Please are gamers, and they try to be pro-free software at the same time. So they gladly install binary-only, proprietary, unfree device drivers to be able to see Shiny Objects on screen, in the process throwing out all their precious principles momentarily, spitting in the face of everything that made Linux possible.
Real free software followers choose freedom over Shiny Objects.
The mono team has released an incredible amount of code in a relatively short timespan.
Yes, exactly. To me it sounds almost improbable that one team could write all that code in such short a timespan. I think they should at least be honest and give proper credit to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
Open source just means the source is available for public consumption, but these days it also implies under some kind of license such as GPL or BSD that would permit modification and redistribution.
Open Source is what complies with the Open Source Definition, as written by those who came with with the term in the first place. So just because you can get at the source doesn't make it Open Source.
But in most places using a deceptively similar name for a remotely similar product is not legal. I'm sure I'd be in trouble if I wrote a book called "Harry Putter". Using a name so similar to Fahrenheit 451 could suggest the two products are related.
Nope. The encryption wouldn't be protecting copyrighted content, so the DMCA wouldn't apply.
They could make it apply by having the encryption additionally guard a piece of copyrightable content that is made available to users of the official client. Maybe a sort of "short story of the month" or something. So the encryption would guard the connections, but also the story, therefore by reverse-engineering the encrypted connection, you have gained access illegally (according to the DMCA) to the short story. Tada.
You should really enlighten yourself. Jabber is a unique, distributed, open IM network with an elegant, extensible and easy-to-understand protocol. You can run your own server and have it talk to the rest of the Jabber network almost like email works. Jabber is really lightyears ahead of any of the "popular" networks today (which is not really "networks", but one or a few servers). Jabber is my only IM network, and I use it to keep in touch with my geekier friends. All the non-geek friends are still on MSN, where they are obliviously happy, but why would I want to IM with them?;)
Says TFA: "This time, however, Yahoo said it will continue changing its protocols to prevent clients such as Trillian from finding new ways to incorporate Yahoo."
So it's obvious that clients like Gaim, Kopete and Trillian need to come up with a scheme to keep up. It would seem prudent to have a feature that detects a failure to connect, asks the user if he would like to update the Yahoo protocol plugin, and if yes, downloads and installs it automatically, and then connects successfully. It just takes some manpower to keep the plugins up to date, but this would be coordinated by a cross-client task force that would share information on the latest protocol changes.
Of course, one can wonder if all this is really worth it. One day the whole world will be on Jabber (except we will rarely call it Jabber since it's so ubiquitous), and we will tell tales to our children of those days when we couldn't necessarily communicate with other IM users since there were competing (!) systems, and IM communication companies spent resources on trying to prevent communication. And they'll smile politely and think "old age has caught up with gramps." (and then they'll fly home in their cars, but that's another story)
Says TFA: "This time, however, Yahoo said it will continue changing its protocols to prevent clients such as Trillian from finding new ways to incorporate Yahoo."
So it's obvious that clients like Gaim, Kopete and Trillian need to come up with a scheme to keep up. It would seem prudent to have a feature that detects a failure to connect, asks the user if he would like to update the Yahoo protocol plugin, and if yes, downloads and installs it automatically, and then connects successfully. It just takes some manpower to keep the plugins up to date, but this would be coordinated by a cross-client task force that would share information on the latest protocol changes.
Of course, one can wonder if all this is really worth it. One day the whole world will be on Jabber (except we will rarely call it Jabber since it's so ubiquitous), and we will tell tales to our children of those days when we couldn't necessarily communicate with other IM users since there were competing (!) systems, and IM communication companies spent resources on trying to prevent communication. And they'll smile politely and think "old age has caught up with gramps." (and then they'll fly home in their cars, but that's another story)
Isn't just about all of Europe around 80% MSN, and probably rising? MSN seriously needs a serious contender, and Jabber + Big Corp is the only one that can grant it.
Google knows how to build communities, just look at Orkut which just passed 500 000 members the other day, and gains 10 000 new members every day. Popularize Jabber for us, Google!
I don't see functional programming languages as dying at all. Caml has already been pointed out as a modern and viable language, and although F# is pointed to as an example of a functional language for.NET, I think Nemerle is every bit as cool.
Also, although purely or almost-purely functional languages aren't that common or popular with the coding masses, the ideas and principles of the paradigm are slowly trickling down to the common languages. Things like algebraic datatype construction/deconstruction, as well as functions as first-class citizens aren't that uncommon any more.
Colin Png, director for Developer and Platform Evangelism, ...
That just struck me, although it's not really news. Hire someone to be evangelic about your platform? At least that's another thing the Free software community can do infinitely better, infinitely more honestly, and without having to pay or coerce anybody into doing it.
in retrospect, it's hard, you know, to make something that makes a stupid person feel smart
Not at all. Stupid people are generally easier to make feel smart. Stupid people feel smarter in general, too. I think it's a kind of protective mechanism.
It takes smarts to know the limits of your wisdom.
There's only been the POT release of F911, and it's the crappy CAM with no Patriot act or singing Ashcroft. I think your torrent is only the same as all the others, no DVD at all, but the same movie in MPEG format for easy burning to DVD. So don't waste your bandwidth.
Please do s/Please/These/ when reading that :) Thank you.
It's the Shiny Objects Factor. Please are gamers, and they try to be pro-free software at the same time. So they gladly install binary-only, proprietary, unfree device drivers to be able to see Shiny Objects on screen, in the process throwing out all their precious principles momentarily, spitting in the face of everything that made Linux possible.
Real free software followers choose freedom over Shiny Objects.
You have to consider the possibility that you're narcoleptic.
Maybe I'm European. Hey, we can't all be perfect.
Excuse me while I try to assimilate with a couple more of your American World Standards.
And yes, I did write "anticipate".
Kudos to you, Mr. Coward, I did inticipate that response. I will not even grace it with a reply post!
If by "only" you mean 613.297 people, then yeah, only that few.
(They gained over 100.000 members in just a week, the server is creeping to a slow death, the ASP.NET code just doesn't seem to cope.)
The mono team has released an incredible amount of code in a relatively short timespan.
Yes, exactly. To me it sounds almost improbable that one team could write all that code in such short a timespan. I think they should at least be honest and give proper credit to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
-- Brown.
Open source just means the source is available for public consumption, but these days it also implies under some kind of license such as GPL or BSD that would permit modification and redistribution.
Open Source is what complies with the Open Source Definition, as written by those who came with with the term in the first place. So just because you can get at the source doesn't make it Open Source.
Said Ashcroft, "I don't pretend to understand Ashcroft's Law, I merely enforce it."
I think Futurama is a bad example; i consider it one of the few things that are worth watching over and over and over ... :)
But in most places using a deceptively similar name for a remotely similar product is not legal. I'm sure I'd be in trouble if I wrote a book called "Harry Putter". Using a name so similar to Fahrenheit 451 could suggest the two products are related.
Troll. If you can't use the source, how is it open? Open Source is what adheres to the Open Source Definition. Period.
Nope. The encryption wouldn't be protecting copyrighted content, so the DMCA wouldn't apply.
They could make it apply by having the encryption additionally guard a piece of copyrightable content that is made available to users of the official client. Maybe a sort of "short story of the month" or something. So the encryption would guard the connections, but also the story, therefore by reverse-engineering the encrypted connection, you have gained access illegally (according to the DMCA) to the short story. Tada.
You should really enlighten yourself. Jabber is a unique, distributed, open IM network with an elegant, extensible and easy-to-understand protocol. You can run your own server and have it talk to the rest of the Jabber network almost like email works. Jabber is really lightyears ahead of any of the "popular" networks today (which is not really "networks", but one or a few servers). Jabber is my only IM network, and I use it to keep in touch with my geekier friends. All the non-geek friends are still on MSN, where they are obliviously happy, but why would I want to IM with them? ;)
Says TFA:
"This time, however, Yahoo said it will continue changing its protocols to prevent clients such as Trillian from finding new ways to incorporate Yahoo."
So it's obvious that clients like Gaim, Kopete and Trillian need to come up with a scheme to keep up. It would seem prudent to have a feature that detects a failure to connect, asks the user if he would like to update the Yahoo protocol plugin, and if yes, downloads and installs it automatically, and then connects successfully. It just takes some manpower to keep the plugins up to date, but this would be coordinated by a cross-client task force that would share information on the latest protocol changes.
Of course, one can wonder if all this is really worth it. One day the whole world will be on Jabber (except we will rarely call it Jabber since it's so ubiquitous), and we will tell tales to our children of those days when we couldn't necessarily communicate with other IM users since there were competing (!) systems, and IM communication companies spent resources on trying to prevent communication. And they'll smile politely and think "old age has caught up with gramps." (and then they'll fly home in their cars, but that's another story)
Haha, well that's funny. Posted under the wrong story. Excuse moi.
Says TFA:
"This time, however, Yahoo said it will continue changing its protocols to prevent clients such as Trillian from finding new ways to incorporate Yahoo."
So it's obvious that clients like Gaim, Kopete and Trillian need to come up with a scheme to keep up. It would seem prudent to have a feature that detects a failure to connect, asks the user if he would like to update the Yahoo protocol plugin, and if yes, downloads and installs it automatically, and then connects successfully. It just takes some manpower to keep the plugins up to date, but this would be coordinated by a cross-client task force that would share information on the latest protocol changes.
Of course, one can wonder if all this is really worth it. One day the whole world will be on Jabber (except we will rarely call it Jabber since it's so ubiquitous), and we will tell tales to our children of those days when we couldn't necessarily communicate with other IM users since there were competing (!) systems, and IM communication companies spent resources on trying to prevent communication. And they'll smile politely and think "old age has caught up with gramps." (and then they'll fly home in their cars, but that's another story)
Isn't just about all of Europe around 80% MSN, and probably rising? MSN seriously needs a serious contender, and Jabber + Big Corp is the only one that can grant it.
Google knows how to build communities, just look at Orkut which just passed 500 000 members the other day, and gains 10 000 new members every day. Popularize Jabber for us, Google!
There is just something wrong about advocating PRISON TIME for someone commiting a nonviolent offense WITH NO PROFIT MOTIVE.
I'm sure your point was well intended, but think about it; plenty of horrible crimes can be committed without violence and without profit motive.
I don't see functional programming languages as dying at all. Caml has already been pointed out as a modern and viable language, and although F# is pointed to as an example of a functional language for .NET, I think Nemerle is every bit as cool.
Also, although purely or almost-purely functional languages aren't that common or popular with the coding masses, the ideas and principles of the paradigm are slowly trickling down to the common languages. Things like algebraic datatype construction/deconstruction, as well as functions as first-class citizens aren't that uncommon any more.
N/T :)