My Grandmother was hit by a cop several years ago. He turned left onto a busy street without looking, and broadsided my Grandmother's car. After some investigation, it was determined that he had a rather poor driving record. Result - he is no longer a police office in St. Louis.
Verbal contracts are perfectly legal and binding. Proving their existence can be much harder.
Contracts require several things, basically the parties have to mutually agree to the contract (offer, acceptance, etc), and consideration going both ways.
An expiration date/term is not required for a contract. Let's use your example of purchasing a DVD. When does that contract expire? When do you have to give the DVD back to the store?
To continue your example, you DO have a contract with the store. They offered a DVD for sale for some consideration ($$$). You agreed to that purchase, and to the terms the store applies to that purchase. Sometimes these are on the receipt, sometimes posted. You agreed to them when you purchased the item.
Your next example is somewhat interesting. The idea of a contract written on the bottom of a rock is funny, but is valid. There aren't requirements for many contracts on what they should be written on.
Please, learn a bit about contracts. It's boring, tedious, and absolutely vital in today's world.
I'm a bit biased, working for one of the largest high-end AS/400 shops in the world, but I really enjoyed with the 400's. We are moving away from the 400 to AIX servers, and get more down time on those than on the 400 boxes.
If you were dumb enough to believe everything that your manager and an IBM marketing guy said, you should fade away into well deserved obscurity.
While I agree that $2.00 is a bit much, I probably would still look into this.
I usually don't want the entire album - just a few songs from it. $6 is still cheaper than the $18 it normally costs me. I'm able to get exactly what I want, and at a cheaper price.
The record companies could also send more of this money directly to the artists - no unit cost for the CD after all. I don't think the greedy SOB's would actually do this, but some dreams are still nice to have...
Ah, so a person must be highly technical to use Linux, or use Open Office in this fashion. My bad - I thought it would be nice for a person with some technical knowledge to be able to do something useful.
Sure, but why should you want to send/receive a spreadsheet with a macro to/from a client?
The company I work for has occasionally sent to contractors fairly complicated spreadsheets. We have specific tasks to complete, and these have proved the best method to accomplish them. We expect the contract to use the tools we provide to accomplish the task we set.
--Ravensfire
Maybe, just maybe, you ought to read what many other have posted here, and posted in other articles about verbal contracts and implied contract. Perhaps you ought do some basic research first about the validity of those agreements.
Hmmm, my ISP is a residential provider that has NO problems with servers. They just ask that you don't abuse the system.
Why civil disobediance? Why don't YOU actually create a solution to the problem? This is a commercial issue - start your own ISP giving your customers the service you think they should get. There's no reason why you can't start your own company.
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And yet, because of that advertising, you might be made aware of a product, or a feature of a product that you don't know about.
While you may not like some of the advertising, you've got to admit that companies do not spend money unless there is a return (or the chance for a return) for that investment.
Hopefully, some company out there will come up with a good system that will support a pay per download system.
I want to be able to have a solid client, where I can set up my payment method, and manipulate account details.
I want to have a searchable database of available titles.
I want to be able to download the songs at different bit rates. I don't mind if the higher bit rates are a touch (and that means under 10% more!) more expensive - that's reasonable. Most people are satisfied at 128. Give the audiophiles what they want as well.
I want to be able to download in different formats. MP3? Support it. Ogg? Support it. MP3 Pro? Support it. Get the idea - be flexible!
I want to be able to get the difficult to find songs. I like electronic music. One of my favorite program from college was EM Soundscape on KBIA. I hearrd stuff that you cannot find. I'd like a way to get that.
I want to see the consumers and the artists benefit. Take care of them, record companies, and your bottom line will take care of itself.
Try actually reading on the website what they are talking about. DPReview is referring to other websites stealing their reviews and sample images, NOT the press release.
You have a copy of the Matrix. Any of you can watch it, but only one group of you can watch it.
You own one copy of it, you can watch that same copy, alone or as a group.
With a CD, you own a copy. You can listen to that copy. You can back up that copy, or convert it to a new medium. You can only use one version of that CD.
If lying to yourself makes your conscience feel better, go ahead. Feel free to do so.
True, but you don't have to publicize the fact that you have a particular patent, or the exact scope you have in mind for it. This can cause the above situation (submarine patents).
You are trying to justify the use of a service or product without paying for the use of said service or product. That's stealing.
It doesn't matter if it's a physical thing or not - your use of that product/service normally comes with a fee. You have decided that you don't want to pay that fee.
But nobody is losing anything What a lovely counter-arguement. Hey - it's okay to steal if nothing physical is lost! NO! THAT'S STILL WRONG! Why should YOU not pay for something that many other DID?
Oh yeah - you're too smart and too cheap. So what? You've now cheapened the efforts of others who did pay. Where's the fairness is that? There isn't any.
I don't really care that you don't have the money, so you wouldn't be getting it, blah, blah, blah. You're a thief.
The system is wrong. I don't like how it works. But I only want two songs off that album. You're a thief.
I saw the discussion yesterday about the company ripping off CDEx. Hey - under you're logic of nothing physical was lost - you should be celebrating them. After all, it's just a copyright, and you have no problem violating copyright law. Hypocrit. Thief.
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My Grandmother was hit by a cop several years ago. He turned left onto a busy street without looking, and broadsided my Grandmother's car. After some investigation, it was determined that he had a rather poor driving record. Result - he is no longer a police office in St. Louis.
Nope and nope.
Verbal contracts are perfectly legal and binding. Proving their existence can be much harder.
Contracts require several things, basically the parties have to mutually agree to the contract (offer, acceptance, etc), and consideration going both ways.
An expiration date/term is not required for a contract. Let's use your example of purchasing a DVD. When does that contract expire? When do you have to give the DVD back to the store?
To continue your example, you DO have a contract with the store. They offered a DVD for sale for some consideration ($$$). You agreed to that purchase, and to the terms the store applies to that purchase. Sometimes these are on the receipt, sometimes posted. You agreed to them when you purchased the item.
Your next example is somewhat interesting. The idea of a contract written on the bottom of a rock is funny, but is valid. There aren't requirements for many contracts on what they should be written on.
Please, learn a bit about contracts. It's boring, tedious, and absolutely vital in today's world.
IANAL, etc and this is very, VERY generalized.
-- Ravensfire
I did, I'm still trying to find anything intelligent in it.
pwrdwnsys *immed restart(*no)
Then run like hell!
(Yes - it was done, once, at my company. He no longer worked there after that)
Hmmm, maybe this might help.
I'm a bit biased, working for one of the largest high-end AS/400 shops in the world, but I really enjoyed with the 400's. We are moving away from the 400 to AIX servers, and get more down time on those than on the 400 boxes.
If you were dumb enough to believe everything that your manager and an IBM marketing guy said, you should fade away into well deserved obscurity.
-- Ravensfire
While I agree that $2.00 is a bit much, I probably would still look into this.
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I usually don't want the entire album - just a few songs from it. $6 is still cheaper than the $18 it normally costs me. I'm able to get exactly what I want, and at a cheaper price.
The record companies could also send more of this money directly to the artists - no unit cost for the CD after all. I don't think the greedy SOB's would actually do this, but some dreams are still nice to have
-- Ravensfire
How glaringly obvious that you didn't read the article prior to commenting.
Ah, so a person must be highly technical to use Linux, or use Open Office in this fashion. My bad - I thought it would be nice for a person with some technical knowledge to be able to do something useful.
That's my luggage combination!
Sure, but why should you want to send/receive a spreadsheet with a macro to/from a client?
The company I work for has occasionally sent to contractors fairly complicated spreadsheets. We have specific tasks to complete, and these have proved the best method to accomplish them. We expect the contract to use the tools we provide to accomplish the task we set.
--Ravensfire
Might I suggest CD-Ex. An excellent little program.
Oh yeah, of course you're right about that.
Maybe, just maybe, you ought to read what many other have posted here, and posted in other articles about verbal contracts and implied contract. Perhaps you ought do some basic research first about the validity of those agreements.
Hmmm, my ISP is a residential provider that has NO problems with servers. They just ask that you don't abuse the system.
Why civil disobediance? Why don't YOU actually create a solution to the problem? This is a commercial issue - start your own ISP giving your customers the service you think they should get. There's no reason why you can't start your own company.
And yet, because of that advertising, you might be made aware of a product, or a feature of a product that you don't know about.
While you may not like some of the advertising, you've got to admit that companies do not spend money unless there is a return (or the chance for a return) for that investment.
Hopefully, some company out there will come up with a good system that will support a pay per download system.
I want to be able to have a solid client, where I can set up my payment method, and manipulate account details.
I want to have a searchable database of available titles.
I want to be able to download the songs at different bit rates. I don't mind if the higher bit rates are a touch (and that means under 10% more!) more expensive - that's reasonable. Most people are satisfied at 128. Give the audiophiles what they want as well.
I want to be able to download in different formats. MP3? Support it. Ogg? Support it. MP3 Pro? Support it. Get the idea - be flexible!
I want to be able to get the difficult to find songs. I like electronic music. One of my favorite program from college was EM Soundscape on KBIA. I hearrd stuff that you cannot find. I'd like a way to get that.
I want to see the consumers and the artists benefit. Take care of them, record companies, and your bottom line will take care of itself.
I'm not asking for too much, am I?
-- Ravensfire
Pssst - it's obsolete!
Try actually reading on the website what they are talking about. DPReview is referring to other websites stealing their reviews and sample images, NOT the press release.
Sheesh.
Nice try at the analogy, but pretty far off.
You have a copy of the Matrix. Any of you can watch it, but only one group of you can watch it.
You own one copy of it, you can watch that same copy, alone or as a group.
With a CD, you own a copy. You can listen to that copy. You can back up that copy, or convert it to a new medium. You can only use one version of that CD.
If lying to yourself makes your conscience feel better, go ahead. Feel free to do so.
Might I suggest Coolplayer as a simple audio player?
True, but you don't have to publicize the fact that you have a particular patent, or the exact scope you have in mind for it. This can cause the above situation (submarine patents).
Go here for a list of companies w/ licenses. AOL is on that list, as is Napster and NullSoft
(from some Murphy's Law's thing I've got lying around)
Canada Bill Jones' Motto:
"It's morally wrong to allow naive end users to keep their money"
There are flaws in that counter arguement though.
You are trying to justify the use of a service or product without paying for the use of said service or product. That's stealing.
It doesn't matter if it's a physical thing or not - your use of that product/service normally comes with a fee. You have decided that you don't want to pay that fee.
But nobody is losing anything
What a lovely counter-arguement. Hey - it's okay to steal if nothing physical is lost! NO! THAT'S STILL WRONG! Why should YOU not pay for something that many other DID?
Oh yeah - you're too smart and too cheap. So what? You've now cheapened the efforts of others who did pay. Where's the fairness is that? There isn't any.
I don't really care that you don't have the money, so you wouldn't be getting it, blah, blah, blah. You're a thief.
The system is wrong. I don't like how it works. But I only want two songs off that album. You're a thief.
I saw the discussion yesterday about the company ripping off CDEx. Hey - under you're logic of nothing physical was lost - you should be celebrating them. After all, it's just a copyright, and you have no problem violating copyright law. Hypocrit. Thief.
No remores stealing from theives, or murdering murderers, etc etc etc.
So nice to see the morals and ethics of people.
and of course the bandwidth is the ONLY cost they incure.
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