All the applications and the GUI are running on Webkit and the OS's only real job is to handle the hardware and provide a nice platform for Webkit to run
No, not really.
WebOS is Linux, with a Web-kit based UI instead of a X.org-based UI. That means it can render web pages easily, and applications can be written in HTML (like some others can be written in XUL). the "card" based applications are going to be largely javascript + SQLlite + a custom JSON-based means to access the hardware, using modified webkit for display. (There are lower-level hooks, but Palm is going to make those harder to get -- which is a good thing IMO.)
Geekiest thing? The copy of the GPL that comes as a PDF.
3) Don't meddle in the affairs of a patent dragon, for thou art tasty and good with ketchup. Jobs was bragging about patents in the iPhone announcement keynote, for Christ sake.
Patents are funny things. You see, the basic idea is, by telling the US Gov't how you did it, you get an absolute monopoly on that thing for a decade and a half. But... well....
YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY FILE A CLAIM TO GET A PATENT.
Those things that Apple actually innovated, that they didn't just lift from Palm OS, and aren't included in the patent applications -- well, aren't covered by a patent
And as for unfiled patents -- what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Palm likely has one or two up its sleeve as well, and if even ONE of its patents gets upheld as applicable to the iPhone, you could see the whole thing vanish in a formal patent-sharing arrangement in a week.
They are circumventing the (very poorly conceived and implemented) technology that enforces the rule that only iPods can connect to iTunes
Which is not a copyright protection technology.
You can't put DRM'd files on the Palm Pre. the Pre does not crack or remove the iTunes DRM. Everything you can do wtih a Pre and iTunes you can do with an iPhone and iTunes. Ergo, Apple hasn't got a leg to stand on.
Neither will Palm if Apple just switches it -- aside from a possible monopoly claim. Really, though, "a rising tide lifts all boats." The more devices look to iTunes, the more iTunes gets used. The more iTunes gets used, the more direct revenue for Apple. and they'll sell more iPods, too.
Strange, then, that speculating on land is considered reasonable.
Land exists, and is permanent. To create new land, you need to invest an awful lot of work. To speculate on land, you need to give the current owners money.
Domain names DON'T. an unregistered domain name is like land that doesn't exist -- it's just not there. But as soon as you register one, it becomes a "place", whereupon you then squat.
The Prius was a real car. The EV-1 was a very fast golf cart.
Americans will NOT buy a car that cannot go a full day of driving. Or, rather, they won't unless it's cheaper than a car that can, + the additional travel expenses.
Electric cars simply do not scale. Even when oil goes to $1,000 a barrel, we'll switch to another liquid fuel. Maybe you could turn all of Japan or Korea electric, and then phase America over. But not the other way around.
I mean seriously, who in their right freaken mind would ever buy any of the assets from GM?
Well, this Chinesse company, for one...
And anyone who can read a report on GM's actual assets. If Clinton had gotten first-world healthcare for the United States when he tried. GM would be as solid today as friggin' Microsoft. And if GM could have waved a magic wand and lost its retiree debt, we might have flying cars by now.
The real problem isn't that Hummer is sold, it is that the bankruptcy of GM and Chrysler have both been shoved down the companies and investor's throats
Yes. By bondholders. GM and Chrysler simply could not pay all their debt obligations, and had no way to grow enough to do so in a year's time. So, they had two choices: get their creditors to renegotiate, or declare bankruptcy.
If Wall Street had been held to the same standards as Detroit the change might have been something I could believe in
Change? How about the White House giving American auto-manufacturers the same deal that banks have had since the great depression? Pretty smooth, if you ask me.
Hummer. Funny thing is they will survive in the real world and not the alternate reality world the US has become.
Hummer is a product of GM. For all intents and purposes, GM "died" yesterday.
Talking about Hummer "surviving" after GM's bankruptcy is like talking about how Big Mac could "survive" McDonald's bankrupcty.
The poor person you are screaming at likly has JUST as little idea...
that poor person is the school, in every bit that you care. They are an employee, tasked with answering the number given to you, and bear responsbility as part of their JOB to tell you where your child is when you call and, well, want your child back.
Yelling is very appropriate. In fact, "you lost my kid" is pretty much the bar for when you can or cannot yell at the school. (Your kid is failing math? don't yell. Your kid didn't come home from a field trip? Yell.)
Actually, wars, real wars, as opposed to "the war on terror (drugs, etc.)", is quite logical
How do you start from something so true, and then jump right into tin-foil hat country?
The neo-cons who started the Iraq war truly, honestly believed that Saddam was a threat. They were led by someone with a clear, honest reason not to like Saddam. And, they were collectively reeling from an attack on American soil, that happened on their watch, that the "democrat" president expressly warned them about.
You don't need to invent some fanciful theory of malicious corruption to explain Iraq. The plain incometence of the neo-cons is enough.
(Oh, and for you logic-freaks out there--the Iraq war was perfectly logical, once you get a neo-con's initial assumptions. Logic is like programming: garbage in, garbage out, but the logic is fine.)
Look, let's be honest. If there's someone who has the level of understanding to human nature necessary to make you turn on the ones you love, in a moment of panic, in a way that they'll never forgive, after allowing you a "false" rebellion against their structure.... well, then you've got a social-political genius, and a social-political genius will be in charge NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.
1984 wasn't just "communism taken to its horrific extreme." it was "communism taken to its horrific extreme, if its propaganda was true." Which makes it, except as a rebuttal to the communist states Orwell aimed it at, a piece of crap.
I don't care if the government watches me, so long as they don't change yesterdays' newspaper.
But in many occasions it takes a ridiculously long time. Aether
Einstein went from disproving the existance of Aether to, well, proving that that "nothing" is really "something." If only we'd had some term for "that thing that's there when we move all the rest of the stuff out."
The social hierarchy of dogs is functional and aids in survival in the wild (well, more for wolves). The strongest one leads. With humans, it's all disfunctional social constructs.
You don't think racism aids survival in uncivilized environments? Wow, and you wrong.
Go look at prisons. In the face of clear violence and adversity, a member of a large enough genetic group can get protection and survival just by being a member of that group.
"Predictable" and "cliche" are not the same thing. I challenge you to find any movie with that ending, without generalizing it so much we can match any action movie out there.
Ok. So some guys who don't have experience with WebOS want to do a "dev camp". OK, more power to them. Palm reaches out, wanting to encourage this sort of thing.
The blogger in the linked article then gets an NDA to sign for an upcoming meeting. And then the meeting is canceled... and because they canceled one meeting, obviously palm is "killing" a development community?
I wonder if Mr. "dancrumb" (Dan Crumb?) was just harping about the HTML + javascript model not being "real" programming, and the OS guys over at Palm realized that a community that didn't want to , you know, write web-style-apps for WebOS wasn't the first developer community they wanted to help?
And I'd love to hear how you can "not do a table of contents right." If you say "it gets corrupt after a bunch of edits", that's one thing--but it's also something that's fixed in about two commands.
This document is "so inflamatory it might interest the DoJ or FBI"?
Then send it to them. Or, if it's valid at all, send it to the closest trustworthy newspaper you can find. Or if nothing else, HIRE A CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER so you know where the line is where you need to stop -- and so you know what to do if an illegal search comes up.
A random document on the internet means NOTHING to an investigative agency. You might as well walk up and make a random phone call from a stolen cell phone. It's not even probable cause to investigate if you don't have a name to go with the charge.
Go home, read the Constitution again, and decide if you want to help someone throw mud for zero effect, or if you want to actually see change. Our forefathers fought and died for our right to speak what we believe to be true; you are a coward if you will only exercise that when there is zero effect.
(Oh, and for the main question: no, I wouldn't. And I wouldn't try hosting it overseas, either; few countries have as strong a free speech protection as the United States.)
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google saw and recognized my Pre as mobile. I got the same page I got wtih my TX.
the NY times showed me its default start page.
All the applications and the GUI are running on Webkit and the OS's only real job is to handle the hardware and provide a nice platform for Webkit to run
No, not really.
WebOS is Linux, with a Web-kit based UI instead of a X.org-based UI. That means it can render web pages easily, and applications can be written in HTML (like some others can be written in XUL). the "card" based applications are going to be largely javascript + SQLlite + a custom JSON-based means to access the hardware, using modified webkit for display. (There are lower-level hooks, but Palm is going to make those harder to get -- which is a good thing IMO.)
Geekiest thing? The copy of the GPL that comes as a PDF.
3) Don't meddle in the affairs of a patent dragon, for thou art tasty and good with ketchup. Jobs was bragging about patents in the iPhone announcement keynote, for Christ sake.
Patents are funny things. You see, the basic idea is, by telling the US Gov't how you did it, you get an absolute monopoly on that thing for a decade and a half. But... well....
YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY FILE A CLAIM TO GET A PATENT.
Those things that Apple actually innovated, that they didn't just lift from Palm OS, and aren't included in the patent applications -- well, aren't covered by a patent
And as for unfiled patents -- what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Palm likely has one or two up its sleeve as well, and if even ONE of its patents gets upheld as applicable to the iPhone, you could see the whole thing vanish in a formal patent-sharing arrangement in a week.
They are circumventing the (very poorly conceived and implemented) technology that enforces the rule that only iPods can connect to iTunes
Which is not a copyright protection technology.
You can't put DRM'd files on the Palm Pre. the Pre does not crack or remove the iTunes DRM. Everything you can do wtih a Pre and iTunes you can do with an iPhone and iTunes. Ergo, Apple hasn't got a leg to stand on.
Neither will Palm if Apple just switches it -- aside from a possible monopoly claim. Really, though, "a rising tide lifts all boats." The more devices look to iTunes, the more iTunes gets used. The more iTunes gets used, the more direct revenue for Apple. and they'll sell more iPods, too.
Strange, then, that speculating on land is considered reasonable.
Land exists, and is permanent. To create new land, you need to invest an awful lot of work. To speculate on land, you need to give the current owners money.
Domain names DON'T. an unregistered domain name is like land that doesn't exist -- it's just not there. But as soon as you register one, it becomes a "place", whereupon you then squat.
See the fundamental difference?
The Prius was a real car. The EV-1 was a very fast golf cart.
Americans will NOT buy a car that cannot go a full day of driving. Or, rather, they won't unless it's cheaper than a car that can, + the additional travel expenses.
Electric cars simply do not scale. Even when oil goes to $1,000 a barrel, we'll switch to another liquid fuel. Maybe you could turn all of Japan or Korea electric, and then phase America over. But not the other way around.
America is a third world country with a dozen or so first world city-states, and has been so for a long, long time.
I mean seriously, who in their right freaken mind would ever buy any of the assets from GM?
Well, this Chinesse company, for one...
And anyone who can read a report on GM's actual assets. If Clinton had gotten first-world healthcare for the United States when he tried. GM would be as solid today as friggin' Microsoft. And if GM could have waved a magic wand and lost its retiree debt, we might have flying cars by now.
The real problem isn't that Hummer is sold, it is that the bankruptcy of GM and Chrysler have both been shoved down the companies and investor's throats
Yes. By bondholders. GM and Chrysler simply could not pay all their debt obligations, and had no way to grow enough to do so in a year's time. So, they had two choices: get their creditors to renegotiate, or declare bankruptcy.
If Wall Street had been held to the same standards as Detroit the change might have been something I could believe in
Change? How about the White House giving American auto-manufacturers the same deal that banks have had since the great depression? Pretty smooth, if you ask me.
Hummer. Funny thing is they will survive in the real world and not the alternate reality world the US has become.
Hummer is a product of GM. For all intents and purposes, GM "died" yesterday.
Talking about Hummer "surviving" after GM's bankruptcy is like talking about how Big Mac could "survive" McDonald's bankrupcty.
I'll have you know, America produce quite a bit of very good beer. Show up in seattle and I'll introduce you to some.
Shhh. He still thinks everything Americans make is crap, Jappanese cars last 10 times longer, and European production is "higher quality."
If we stay quiet, he might think that Apple Computer is about to go under, the Soviet Union is a real threat, and IBM is where all computers are made.
The poor person you are screaming at likly has JUST as little idea ...
that poor person is the school, in every bit that you care. They are an employee, tasked with answering the number given to you, and bear responsbility as part of their JOB to tell you where your child is when you call and, well, want your child back.
Yelling is very appropriate. In fact, "you lost my kid" is pretty much the bar for when you can or cannot yell at the school. (Your kid is failing math? don't yell. Your kid didn't come home from a field trip? Yell.)
it is that our Federal Constitution was designed by the rich aristocrats to STIFLE political change and to DISEMPOWER the voters
Yes, the constitution makes radical change either take a long time or take an overwhelming majority.
This is NOT a bad thing. nor does it "disempower" the voters.
Actually, wars, real wars, as opposed to "the war on terror (drugs, etc.)", is quite logical
How do you start from something so true, and then jump right into tin-foil hat country?
The neo-cons who started the Iraq war truly, honestly believed that Saddam was a threat. They were led by someone with a clear, honest reason not to like Saddam. And, they were collectively reeling from an attack on American soil, that happened on their watch, that the "democrat" president expressly warned them about.
You don't need to invent some fanciful theory of malicious corruption to explain Iraq. The plain incometence of the neo-cons is enough.
(Oh, and for you logic-freaks out there--the Iraq war was perfectly logical, once you get a neo-con's initial assumptions. Logic is like programming: garbage in, garbage out, but the logic is fine.)
It's also terribly implausible.
Look, let's be honest. If there's someone who has the level of understanding to human nature necessary to make you turn on the ones you love, in a moment of panic, in a way that they'll never forgive, after allowing you a "false" rebellion against their structure.... well, then you've got a social-political genius, and a social-political genius will be in charge NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.
1984 wasn't just "communism taken to its horrific extreme." it was "communism taken to its horrific extreme, if its propaganda was true." Which makes it, except as a rebuttal to the communist states Orwell aimed it at, a piece of crap.
I don't care if the government watches me, so long as they don't change yesterdays' newspaper.
But in many occasions it takes a ridiculously long time. Aether
Einstein went from disproving the existance of Aether to, well, proving that that "nothing" is really "something." If only we'd had some term for "that thing that's there when we move all the rest of the stuff out."
Who was in control of Congress the last two years of Bush's presidency, when things got REALLY fucked up?
The repulblicans.
A filabuster-capable minority in the Senate and the Presidency == control. Sorry, that's just how it is
The DMCA is the regulation that makes breaking DRM-based vendor lock-in illegal
Only, ONLY, if you circumvent the DRM. If you implement and respect the DRM, you're (pretty much) just fine.
Or you could do what Palm actually did, and just, you know, ignore DRM. No DRM == no protection scheme == no DMCA.
The social hierarchy of dogs is functional and aids in survival in the wild (well, more for wolves). The strongest one leads. With humans, it's all disfunctional social constructs.
You don't think racism aids survival in uncivilized environments? Wow, and you wrong.
Go look at prisons. In the face of clear violence and adversity, a member of a large enough genetic group can get protection and survival just by being a member of that group.
Upon seeing another, they'll wag their tails
Domesticated, neutered dogs will do that when they see ANYTHING. Cats, horses, people, new cars. Statues of dogs, even, I bet.
Get two dogs that are as nature made them, and I guarantee they'll spend the first day fighting. I mean, unless one runs away or gives up sooner.
It got a little cliche towards the end, though.
"Predictable" and "cliche" are not the same thing. I challenge you to find any movie with that ending, without generalizing it so much we can match any action movie out there.
I liked it, too. :)
where do they get their juice from? Where's the power cord?
For the termiantors, a small, hand-sized fission/fusion reactor. They answered this in T3.
For the bigger robots? Probably a bigger reactor, maybe some conventional fuel.
Ok. So some guys who don't have experience with WebOS want to do a "dev camp". OK, more power to them. Palm reaches out, wanting to encourage this sort of thing.
The blogger in the linked article then gets an NDA to sign for an upcoming meeting. And then the meeting is canceled... and because they canceled one meeting, obviously palm is "killing" a development community?
I wonder if Mr. "dancrumb" (Dan Crumb?) was just harping about the HTML + javascript model not being "real" programming, and the OS guys over at Palm realized that a community that didn't want to , you know, write web-style-apps for WebOS wasn't the first developer community they wanted to help?
There aren't entire books that are PUBLISHED using Word and other, non-professional typesetting tools
Of course there are. The questions are, (1) can you tell, and (2) it the book worth reading?
Actually, Word 2007 does all four of those.
And I'd love to hear how you can "not do a table of contents right." If you say "it gets corrupt after a bunch of edits", that's one thing--but it's also something that's fixed in about two commands.
This document is "so inflamatory it might interest the DoJ or FBI"?
Then send it to them. Or, if it's valid at all, send it to the closest trustworthy newspaper you can find. Or if nothing else, HIRE A CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER so you know where the line is where you need to stop -- and so you know what to do if an illegal search comes up.
A random document on the internet means NOTHING to an investigative agency. You might as well walk up and make a random phone call from a stolen cell phone. It's not even probable cause to investigate if you don't have a name to go with the charge.
Go home, read the Constitution again, and decide if you want to help someone throw mud for zero effect, or if you want to actually see change. Our forefathers fought and died for our right to speak what we believe to be true; you are a coward if you will only exercise that when there is zero effect.
(Oh, and for the main question: no, I wouldn't. And I wouldn't try hosting it overseas, either; few countries have as strong a free speech protection as the United States.)