I don't think they realize that they are not starting a trend of things switching away from the U.S, they are helping to accelerate an already existing one. The U.S. has increasingly been viewed as a rogue state. People in other countries have been expressing less confidence in US leadership for decades.
The dot com boom changed things for a while; but the industries reliance on H-1B increased the switching of tech to outside the US. The dot com bust, followed by 9-11 made the US a much less attractive place. Europeans that came to the US eventually stayed long enough to find out about our healthcare system and ran back home. In my company now has more developers in Europe than in the US.
The data theft by the NSA will accelerate this trend. It is a tipping point. They act like it all started with Snowdon. The competitive situation has changed dramatically. We have been adding one more straw for decades. Is this the straw that breaks the camels back? Probably not, but it is several steps closer to it.
My family first voted Republican nationally in 1856 for Freemont. They typically voted party line since. Until the last elections. Among the 100 or so family members that stay in touch I don't think that more than 10 votes were cast for Republicans. And those were all local candidates, friends of family.
The Republican party is dead. It is left to the end of the world nut jobs and utterly corrupt. And this "base" is going to drive anyone else away. The party is finished until it hits rock bottom and either dies completely like the wigs or there is a hostile take over by another special interest group.
Personally, I hope for complete death. Then we can finally have a restructuring of this moribund two party system and get something that actually reflects political divisions in the country.
I think California wants to get people to leave. They pasted the Induce act, encouraging forward thinking companies to seek other places to develop paradigm smashing technologies.
Everything already costs more in California.
They are already 47th in $/pupil.
Why would anyone want to live or start a business in California?
This should help get the software industry out of California. The backers of the bill are already moving jobs out of California to India and China.
Any start-up contemplating P2P will not try California. Other start-ups will have to wonder if their new paradigm busting technology will share the same fate and they too will by-pass California.
Imagine what would have happened to Silicon Valley if Fairchild had had this kind of political clot.
The shuttles have been a black hole into which we throw the space exploration budget. They failed in their mission to provide cheaper access to space through reusable vehicles.
We can't seem to put them out of their misery. Was hoping Frances would.
The first analogy is that shortly after the invention of the car someone robs a bank a uses the car to get away. The banking industry pays congress to outlaw the car.
Second, the railroad industry has locked up the freight market. Nothing is shipped in-land without going through them. Except for short distances they are the only option. As soon as the model-T comes out someone takes the body off, hammers on some boards and viola --- a truck. The railroad industry pays congress to outlaw the auto.
Either way what is today a vital industry dies in America.
I am working on p2p business applications for ERP, and CRM applications. I guess I should consider moving to another country.
If this becomes the next new new thing, the US looses out.
California has always been a state that believes in government of the highest bidder, by the highest bidder and for the highest bidder; going back to the railroads.
If you don't like it leave. Oh, wait all the really innovative technologies already are. Neeeevvvvveeeeerrrrrrr miiiiiinnnnnnnddddddd.
I have always said that if Word continued on its development path by 2015 or 2020 at the latest it will have the functionality that WordPerfect had in 1990.
First, as noted by others the statistic sited in the headline grossly overstates what the actual number really is (Actual - 5% of new Windows Servers used to run linux vs reported - 5% of all new servers).
Who runs Windows Servers anyway?
The arguments for getting as far away from Microsoft as fast as possible are still far more compeling which are 1) you are financing a competitor (sooner or later they will come after your business) 2) MS is trying to become an fortified island that allows no one in and no one out. This is why governments around the world are insisting on open source standards and formats. 3) Security, need I say more. 4) Quality, when open source came out people predicted that only those most concerned with price would use it. Now it turns out that those most concerned with quality and reliability use it. 5) Innovation, a favorite MS term; but really, can you name a single thing that MS has ever invented?
What does it really mean? Did Gartner actually do an indepth legal search? Or did they rely on the opinions of "experts" who "magically" showed up at their door? Or did they rely on experts who owe much of their fees to competitors of Linux?
Cable companies (include Direct TV, and EchoStar here) have been paying off elected officials (municipal, state and federales) for years to gain government protected monopolies with no pricing restrictions.
Could we sue them for the current and future losses do to the perversion of democracy? What would that be -- a few hundred billion? Maybe a trillion?
If we all boycott RIAA members products (yes downloads too), we can hurt them.
There is room for a meeting of the minds. RIAA members basically charge $15.00 for something that costs them $.25 ($.01 for the plastic and $.24 to the artist). No industry that has to mark up raw materials 60 times to cover marketing and distribution can expect to survive.
At the very least a boycott of just a couple of months would defund the RIAA.
Between the Patriot Act, Digital Millenium Copyright Act and the recent MicroSoft purchase of the justice system; is there room for innovation in the US?
Will we see innovation move offshore (along with the jobs) to places like Europe and Asia.
The new restrictions will insure that those currently on top, stay on top; but they may also insure that all of us go down.
If this doesn't push the market to linux and open source solutions nothing will. It should go down in history as one of the greatest strategic blunders ever committed. With little opposition, Microsoft itself finally gave users the best reason to move to open source.
Hatch, is known for two things - being extremely self-righteous and for self dealing. 60 minutes cover a case in which he authored a law that had all drugs lost in shipment (and then found) sent to a company he owned where they would be registered and then sold at a profit. I would expect his stand means he owns a share of an e-music company.
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I don't think they realize that they are not starting a trend of things switching away from the U.S, they are helping to accelerate an already existing one. The U.S. has increasingly been viewed as a rogue state. People in other countries have been expressing less confidence in US leadership for decades.
The dot com boom changed things for a while; but the industries reliance on H-1B increased the switching of tech to outside the US. The dot com bust, followed by 9-11 made the US a much less attractive place. Europeans that came to the US eventually stayed long enough to find out about our healthcare system and ran back home. In my company now has more developers in Europe than in the US.
The data theft by the NSA will accelerate this trend. It is a tipping point. They act like it all started with Snowdon. The competitive situation has changed dramatically. We have been adding one more straw for decades. Is this the straw that breaks the camels back? Probably not, but it is several steps closer to it.
My family first voted Republican nationally in 1856 for Freemont. They typically voted party line since. Until the last elections. Among the 100 or so family members that stay in touch I don't think that more than 10 votes were cast for Republicans. And those were all local candidates, friends of family.
The Republican party is dead. It is left to the end of the world nut jobs and utterly corrupt. And this "base" is going to drive anyone else away. The party is finished until it hits rock bottom and either dies completely like the wigs or there is a hostile take over by another special interest group.
Personally, I hope for complete death. Then we can finally have a restructuring of this moribund two party system and get something that actually reflects political divisions in the country.
Bell South is so evil, that we can not trust them to ever really withdraw this proposal.
I say boycott. Use Skype. More importantly, help develop a wireless mesh network that completely bypasses the phone company.
Now all we have to do is figure out how to get away from their copper all together.
I think California wants to get people to leave. They pasted the Induce act, encouraging forward thinking companies to seek other places to develop paradigm smashing technologies.
Everything already costs more in California.
They are already 47th in $/pupil.
Why would anyone want to live or start a business in California?
Please don't give these people any ideas.
We are already living in territory that was previously inhabited only by the wild halucenations of paranoid conspiracy theorists.
This should help get the software industry out of California. The backers of the bill are already moving jobs out of California to India and China.
Any start-up contemplating P2P will not try California. Other start-ups will have to wonder if their new paradigm busting technology will share the same fate and they too will by-pass California.
Imagine what would have happened to Silicon Valley if Fairchild had had this kind of political clot.
I would be willing to go to the Canary Islands and jump up and down on the beach.
Given the promise of eliminating Washington, New York and the rest of the East Coast in one drop, no effort should be spared.
The shuttles have been a black hole into which we throw the space exploration budget. They failed in their mission to provide cheaper access to space through reusable vehicles.
We can't seem to put them out of their misery. Was hoping Frances would.
The first analogy is that shortly after the invention of the car someone robs a bank a uses the car to get away. The banking industry pays congress to outlaw the car.
Second, the railroad industry has locked up the freight market. Nothing is shipped in-land without going through them. Except for short distances they are the only option. As soon as the model-T comes out someone takes the body off, hammers on some boards and viola --- a truck. The railroad industry pays congress to outlaw the auto.
Either way what is today a vital industry dies in America.
I am working on p2p business applications for ERP, and CRM applications. I guess I should consider moving to another country.
If this becomes the next new new thing, the US looses out.
California has always been a state that believes in government of the highest bidder, by the highest bidder and for the highest bidder; going back to the railroads.
If you don't like it leave. Oh, wait all the really innovative technologies already are. Neeeevvvvveeeeerrrrrrr miiiiiinnnnnnnddddddd.
I have always said that if Word continued on its development path by 2015 or 2020 at the latest it will have the functionality that WordPerfect had in 1990.
It is interesting that SCO's latest target is always whoever tops Microsoft's enemies list.
SCO is nothing more than Microsoft's attack dog.
Is there anyway this could have legal reprocusions for Microsoft or are they insulated?
First, as noted by others the statistic sited in the headline grossly overstates what the actual number really is (Actual - 5% of new Windows Servers used to run linux vs reported - 5% of all new servers).
Who runs Windows Servers anyway?
The arguments for getting as far away from Microsoft as fast as possible are still far more compeling which are 1) you are financing a competitor (sooner or later they will come after your business) 2) MS is trying to become an fortified island that allows no one in and no one out. This is why governments around the world are insisting on open source standards and formats. 3) Security, need I say more. 4) Quality, when open source came out people predicted that only those most concerned with price would use it. Now it turns out that those most concerned with quality and reliability use it. 5) Innovation, a favorite MS term; but really, can you name a single thing that MS has ever invented?
What does it really mean? Did Gartner actually do an indepth legal search? Or did they rely on the opinions of "experts" who "magically" showed up at their door? Or did they rely on experts who owe much of their fees to competitors of Linux?
I think of all the times I take a package down to read the label and then put it back.
I guess I would have to stop reading labels. Which means I would probably not buy.
If it could warn us when NBC is about to put on one of its cheesy shows it would be worth it.
Cable companies (include Direct TV, and EchoStar here) have been paying off elected officials (municipal, state and federales) for years to gain government protected monopolies with no pricing restrictions.
Could we sue them for the current and future losses do to the perversion of democracy? What would that be -- a few hundred billion? Maybe a trillion?
If we all boycott RIAA members products (yes downloads too), we can hurt them.
There is room for a meeting of the minds. RIAA members basically charge $15.00 for something that costs them $.25 ($.01 for the plastic and $.24 to the artist). No industry that has to mark up raw materials 60 times to cover marketing and distribution can expect to survive.
At the very least a boycott of just a couple of months would defund the RIAA.
I make a tea of St. John's Wort annd Mugwart everyday.
I also have my own laptop and try to keep notes of everything on it, so I don't forget.
Pushing a team over 40 hours a week seldom produces real gains.
We need to go back to the system of promoting people who actually know how to do it to management.
Most IT managers I have worked with have never actually built anything.
Between the Patriot Act, Digital Millenium Copyright Act and the recent MicroSoft purchase of the justice system; is there room for innovation in the US?
Will we see innovation move offshore (along with the jobs) to places like Europe and Asia.
The new restrictions will insure that those currently on top, stay on top; but they may also insure that all of us go down.
I have noticed that most of the new P2P development is happening in Europe.
Could it be because they are gaining experience from unrestricted file sharing?
Networks, embedded in other networks are one of strongest new trends around and the U.S. is getting left behind. I blame the DMCA.
Robb,
If this doesn't push the market to linux and open source solutions nothing will. It should go down in history as one of the greatest strategic blunders ever committed. With little opposition, Microsoft itself finally gave users the best reason to move to open source.
Hatch, is known for two things - being extremely self-righteous and for self dealing. 60 minutes cover a case in which he authored a law that had all drugs lost in shipment (and then found) sent to a company he owned where they would be registered and then sold at a profit. I would expect his stand means he owns a share of an e-music company.